Re: [WISPA] MT backup system, need script clues

2009-06-23 Thread ccrum
I have a perl script which logs in, creates a backup, then FTP's in and
transfers the backup to an offsite location. It uses telnet now, but could
use ssh if you wanted. It actually cycles through a list of IP addresses
and does it for each one. It won't remove all the old files, but it just
rewrites the same one every few days. And it creates exports, not backups.
Of course this could all be modified, by altering/adding the MT script
commands within the script. Let me know if you are interested.

Cameron

 not too comfortable with ftp, clear text passwords, etc...

 On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 2:51 AM, Scott Reed
 scottr...@onlyinternet.netwrote:

 I believe it supports ssh terminal and ftp only.
 There is an API available also.  I do not remember what all is available
 in the API, but it can do a lot.
 I take it your backup system does not do ftp?

 rabbtux rabbtux wrote:
  Nope, Didn't work.  Using MTv3.17 and found that even though it will
 so
 some
  sftp, it will not do rsync, or even FISH protocol that works with a
 vanilla
  ssh server. sorry :-(
 
  On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote:
 
 
  I would be interested in this as well.  Please share on-list!
 
  Thanks,
 
 
  Brad
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
  Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
  Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 11:27 AM
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  Subject: [WISPA] MT backup system, need script clues
 
  All,
 
  I've used the excellent open source backup program, rsnapshot, for
 years
  with good results.  I recently noticed that routeros supports sftp.
 I'd
  like to get snapshot backups of all our APs.  Here's how it would
 work:
  Rsnapshot can run a few commands on each system before backing up the
 file
  system.  I'd like to 1) remove all *.backup and *.rsc files. 2) run a
 fresh
  binary backup, followed by a text export.  3) The normal rsnapshot
 function
  resumes getting a copy of the filesystem.
 
  Just having trouble putting the parts of the pre-run MT script.
  Specifically how to delete the existing backup files.
 
  Any Hints appreciated, as everyone could use this 'full seatbelt
 backup
  solution.  It includes daily changes to any file or configuration
 changes
  on
  each routeros system.
 
  Thanks,
  Marshall
  Rabbit Meadows Technology
 
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: [WISPA] MT backup system, need script clues

2009-06-23 Thread jp
sftp/ssh.

I wrote up this last year and have been using since.
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Using_SSH_for_system_backup

I have a MT database which produces a list of MT IPs, which my script loops 
through and backs them up as described above.

If you want a diff between two MTs, they are filenamed based on date, so it's 
real simple to determine changes over time with the diff command.

j...@huehuetenango:~/bin more /usr/local/mis/bin/mtbackup 
#!/bin/bash

for mt in `ssh -o ConnectTimeout=5 -n j...@mocha mysql -h 127.0.0.1 -u root -s 
-p -e \use mt\; select ip from router where sshaccess is not null \` 
; do
 mtnamer=`ssh -o ConnectTimeout=5 -n j...@mocha mysql -h 127.0.0.1 -u root -s 
-p -e \use mt\; select hostname from router where ip=\'$mt\' \`
 mtname=`echo $mtnamer |sed -e s/ //g`
 bfile=`date +%Y%m%d-$mtname`
 ssh -o ConnectTimeout=5 ad...@$mt export file=$bfile
 sftp ad...@$mt:$bfile.rsc /home/jp/mtbackups/$bfile.rsc
 ssh -o ConnectTimeout=5 ad...@$mt /file remove $bfile.rsc
done



On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:40:06AM -0400, Josh Luthman wrote:
 FTP and ssl?
 
 On 6/23/09, rabbtux rabbtux rabb...@gmail.com wrote:
  not too comfortable with ftp, clear text passwords, etc...
 
  On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 2:51 AM, Scott Reed
  scottr...@onlyinternet.netwrote:
 
  I believe it supports ssh terminal and ftp only.
  There is an API available also.  I do not remember what all is available
  in the API, but it can do a lot.
  I take it your backup system does not do ftp?
 
  rabbtux rabbtux wrote:
   Nope, Didn't work.  Using MTv3.17 and found that even though it will so
  some
   sftp, it will not do rsync, or even FISH protocol that works with a
  vanilla
   ssh server. sorry :-(
  
   On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote:
  
  
   I would be interested in this as well.  Please share on-list!
  
   Thanks,
  
  
   Brad
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
   Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
   Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 11:27 AM
   To: WISPA General List
   Subject: [WISPA] MT backup system, need script clues
  
   All,
  
   I've used the excellent open source backup program, rsnapshot, for
   years
   with good results.  I recently noticed that routeros supports sftp.
   I'd
   like to get snapshot backups of all our APs.  Here's how it would work:
   Rsnapshot can run a few commands on each system before backing up the
  file
   system.  I'd like to 1) remove all *.backup and *.rsc files. 2) run a
  fresh
   binary backup, followed by a text export.  3) The normal rsnapshot
  function
   resumes getting a copy of the filesystem.
  
   Just having trouble putting the parts of the pre-run MT script.
   Specifically how to delete the existing backup files.
  
   Any Hints appreciated, as everyone could use this 'full seatbelt
   backup
   solution.  It includes daily changes to any file or configuration
  changes
   on
   each routeros system.
  
   Thanks,
   Marshall
   Rabbit Meadows Technology
  
  
  
  
  
   
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Re: [WISPA] MT backup system, need script clues

2009-06-23 Thread David E. Smith
jp wrote:

 http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Using_SSH_for_system_backup

I am intrigued by your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Seriously, I think I'm gonna steal this script, suitably modified for my 
environment.

Don't suppose Mikrotik has ever gotten round to inventing a better 
'restore from backup' system? If a board is toasted by lightning, you 
can't take one of these backups and restore from it easily - too many 
things are tied to, say, a device's MAC address. You can look through 
the configuration and fix things, but there's always the chance you'll 
overlook something.

This is one of the things Valemount's StarOS does right, and that I 
absolutely adore - even if you restore to different hardware, it almost 
always seems to get things Right. You always have to double-check the 
details, of course, but I can't remember the last time I had to correct 
something it did.

If RouterOS had something similar, I'd be positively ecstatic.

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[WISPA] Looking for service on Tonganoxie Rd, Leavenworth, KS 66048

2009-06-23 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Looking for service in this area:

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=2560+tonganoxie+rd+leavenworth,+ksie=UTF8split=0gl=usei=uvVASqz9JI_KsQOnrPyMCQll=39.236292,-94.978931spn=0.012199,0.019312t=hz=16iwloc=A

Does anyone service this area outside of Leavenworth/Lansing?

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Re: [WISPA] MT backup system, need script clues

2009-06-23 Thread Scott Reed
RouterOS restore from backup (not export) works to the same model hardware.

David E. Smith wrote:
 jp wrote:

   
 http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Using_SSH_for_system_backup
 

 I am intrigued by your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

 Seriously, I think I'm gonna steal this script, suitably modified for my 
 environment.

 Don't suppose Mikrotik has ever gotten round to inventing a better 
 'restore from backup' system? If a board is toasted by lightning, you 
 can't take one of these backups and restore from it easily - too many 
 things are tied to, say, a device's MAC address. You can look through 
 the configuration and fix things, but there's always the chance you'll 
 overlook something.

 This is one of the things Valemount's StarOS does right, and that I 
 absolutely adore - even if you restore to different hardware, it almost 
 always seems to get things Right. You always have to double-check the 
 details, of course, but I can't remember the last time I had to correct 
 something it did.

 If RouterOS had something similar, I'd be positively ecstatic.

 David Smith
 MVN.net


 
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Re: [WISPA] MT backup system, need script clues

2009-06-23 Thread David E. Smith
Scott Reed wrote:
 RouterOS restore from backup (not export) works to the same model hardware.

I'll admit I haven't tried it recently, but it used to be really iffy - 
since a new system would have a different radio card, and different 
MACs on the Ethernet interfaces, it always was a horribly error-prone 
process in my experience.

I'll have to grab a spare off the shelf and try this again later. 
Thanks! :)

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Re: [WISPA] MT backup system, need script clues

2009-06-23 Thread jp
Copy away.

I prefer a human readable backup, which is why I use the export instead of the 
backup command. Quite often what fails is an rb532 or other random variety 
board, and we are apt to replace it with a 433AH. It would be less common to 
replace something with an identical hardware unfortunately. When things are 
broken are sometimes an opportune time to upgrade things or do things better.

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:50:53AM -0500, David E. Smith wrote:
 jp wrote:
 
  http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Using_SSH_for_system_backup
 
 I am intrigued by your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
 
 Seriously, I think I'm gonna steal this script, suitably modified for my 
 environment.
 
 Don't suppose Mikrotik has ever gotten round to inventing a better 
 'restore from backup' system? If a board is toasted by lightning, you 
 can't take one of these backups and restore from it easily - too many 
 things are tied to, say, a device's MAC address. You can look through 
 the configuration and fix things, but there's always the chance you'll 
 overlook something.
 
 This is one of the things Valemount's StarOS does right, and that I 
 absolutely adore - even if you restore to different hardware, it almost 
 always seems to get things Right. You always have to double-check the 
 details, of course, but I can't remember the last time I had to correct 
 something it did.
 
 If RouterOS had something similar, I'd be positively ecstatic.
 
 David Smith
 MVN.net
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] MT backup system, need script clues

2009-06-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Even on the same hardware I see more screw ups with the binary backup then
what I want to see.  Going from the exact same model to a replaced board
with the binary backup should be flawless, still, it isn't.

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On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 1:29 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote:

 Scott Reed wrote:
  RouterOS restore from backup (not export) works to the same model
 hardware.

 I'll admit I haven't tried it recently, but it used to be really iffy -
 since a new system would have a different radio card, and different
 MACs on the Ethernet interfaces, it always was a horribly error-prone
 process in my experience.

 I'll have to grab a spare off the shelf and try this again later.
 Thanks! :)

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 MVN.net



 
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Re: [WISPA] MT backup system, need script clues

2009-06-23 Thread ccrum
Agreed...that is why I use export. Then I can modify the script and strip
out macs, etc. Just my prefered method.

Cameron

 Scott Reed wrote:
 RouterOS restore from backup (not export) works to the same model
 hardware.

 I'll admit I haven't tried it recently, but it used to be really iffy -
 since a new system would have a different radio card, and different
 MACs on the Ethernet interfaces, it always was a horribly error-prone
 process in my experience.

 I'll have to grab a spare off the shelf and try this again later.
 Thanks! :)

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Re: [WISPA] MT backup system, need script clues

2009-06-23 Thread Josh Luthman
As of 3.x (or close) the interfaces are assigned by their value starting
from 0 rather then their titles, which helps a bit.

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On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:28 PM, cc...@dot11net.com wrote:

 Agreed...that is why I use export. Then I can modify the script and strip
 out macs, etc. Just my prefered method.

 Cameron

  Scott Reed wrote:
  RouterOS restore from backup (not export) works to the same model
  hardware.
 
  I'll admit I haven't tried it recently, but it used to be really iffy -
  since a new system would have a different radio card, and different
  MACs on the Ethernet interfaces, it always was a horribly error-prone
  process in my experience.
 
  I'll have to grab a spare off the shelf and try this again later.
  Thanks! :)
 
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[WISPA] New ZBot variant for Outlook

2009-06-23 Thread David Hulsebus
FYI

From SANS Newsbytes 6-2-09

--Spam Spreading ZBot Masquerades as Outlook Update
(June 22, 2009)
Spam masquerading as a Microsoft Outlook security and stability update
actually infects computers with ZBot, a Trojan horse program that
steals sensitive information.  The malware contains a list of
financial institution and social networking sites; if users visit any
of these sites on infected machines, the malware steals login and
credit card information and sends it back to a server controlled by
the attacker.  Earlier variants of ZBot infected computers through
drive-by downloads.
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Re: [WISPA] New ZBot variant for Outlook

2009-06-23 Thread Charles Wyble
Ah. I've been seeing a lot of those. I knew they were malware or some 
other nonsense.

Thanks for sharing.

Bleh e-mail is going to die off soon, or usage models of it will 
switch to white list only. It's getting to be ridiculous.

David Hulsebus wrote:
 FYI
 
From SANS Newsbytes 6-2-09
 
 --Spam Spreading ZBot Masquerades as Outlook Update
 (June 22, 2009)
 Spam masquerading as a Microsoft Outlook security and stability update
 actually infects computers with ZBot, a Trojan horse program that
 steals sensitive information.  The malware contains a list of
 financial institution and social networking sites; if users visit any
 of these sites on infected machines, the malware steals login and
 credit card information and sends it back to a server controlled by
 the attacker.  Earlier variants of ZBot infected computers through
 drive-by downloads.
 http://www.scmagazineus.com/Fake-Microsoft-critical-update-spam-propagating-trojan/article/138823/
 
 
 
 
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[WISPA] Service in St Augustine, FL?

2009-06-23 Thread Dylan Bouterse
Can anybody cover:
1590 Northwood Drive, Saint Augustine, FL, 32084

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Re: [WISPA] New ZBot variant for Outlook

2009-06-23 Thread Jerry Richardson
Gmail was all over these. 


 
 
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Ah. I've been seeing a lot of those. I knew they were malware or some
other nonsense.

Thanks for sharing.

Bleh e-mail is going to die off soon, or usage models of it will
switch to white list only. It's getting to be ridiculous.

David Hulsebus wrote:
 FYI
 
From SANS Newsbytes 6-2-09
 
 --Spam Spreading ZBot Masquerades as Outlook Update (June 22, 2009) 
 Spam masquerading as a Microsoft Outlook security and stability update

 actually infects computers with ZBot, a Trojan horse program that 
 steals sensitive information.  The malware contains a list of 
 financial institution and social networking sites; if users visit any 
 of these sites on infected machines, the malware steals login and 
 credit card information and sends it back to a server controlled by 
 the attacker.  Earlier variants of ZBot infected computers through 
 drive-by downloads.
 http://www.scmagazineus.com/Fake-Microsoft-critical-update-spam-propag
 ating-trojan/article/138823/
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] New ZBot variant for Outlook

2009-06-23 Thread jree...@18-30chat.net
Maybe if people did not use Outbreak Express and Internet Exploiter it would not
be such a problem.

Charles Wyble wrote:
 Ah. I've been seeing a lot of those. I knew they were malware or some 
 other nonsense.
 
 Thanks for sharing.
 
 Bleh e-mail is going to die off soon, or usage models of it will 
 switch to white list only. It's getting to be ridiculous.
 
 David Hulsebus wrote:
 FYI

 From SANS Newsbytes 6-2-09

 --Spam Spreading ZBot Masquerades as Outlook Update
 (June 22, 2009)
 Spam masquerading as a Microsoft Outlook security and stability update
 actually infects computers with ZBot, a Trojan horse program that
 steals sensitive information.  The malware contains a list of
 financial institution and social networking sites; if users visit any
 of these sites on infected machines, the malware steals login and
 credit card information and sends it back to a server controlled by
 the attacker.  Earlier variants of ZBot infected computers through
 drive-by downloads.
 http://www.scmagazineus.com/Fake-Microsoft-critical-update-spam-propagating-trojan/article/138823/



 
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Re: [WISPA] New ZBot variant for Outlook

2009-06-23 Thread Josh Luthman
In reality if 75% of the world used Firefox those explots would be
targeting Firefox :)

On 6/23/09, jree...@18-30chat.net jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:
 Maybe if people did not use Outbreak Express and Internet Exploiter it would
 not
 be such a problem.

 Charles Wyble wrote:
 Ah. I've been seeing a lot of those. I knew they were malware or some
 other nonsense.

 Thanks for sharing.

 Bleh e-mail is going to die off soon, or usage models of it will
 switch to white list only. It's getting to be ridiculous.

 David Hulsebus wrote:
 FYI

 From SANS Newsbytes 6-2-09

 --Spam Spreading ZBot Masquerades as Outlook Update
 (June 22, 2009)
 Spam masquerading as a Microsoft Outlook security and stability update
 actually infects computers with ZBot, a Trojan horse program that
 steals sensitive information.  The malware contains a list of
 financial institution and social networking sites; if users visit any
 of these sites on infected machines, the malware steals login and
 credit card information and sends it back to a server controlled by
 the attacker.  Earlier variants of ZBot infected computers through
 drive-by downloads.
 http://www.scmagazineus.com/Fake-Microsoft-critical-update-spam-propagating-trojan/article/138823/



 
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Re: [WISPA] New ZBot variant for Outlook

2009-06-23 Thread jree...@18-30chat.net
I agree. And we would still see a drastic fall in spam/exploits/malware
The FF team does a better job of patching for stuff then MFST does. Im
not saying they are perfect by any means, just better. The add-ons for
FF that make life so much better, like NoScript, Flash Block, Ad-Block
and AdBlockFilterGSet make FF pretty tight. The primary issue with OE/OL/IE
is that for the longest time they automatically ran VBScript embedded in email.
Now the major issues are known holes that are months old and end users.



Josh Luthman wrote:
 In reality if 75% of the world used Firefox those explots would be
 targeting Firefox :)
 
 On 6/23/09, jree...@18-30chat.net jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:
 Maybe if people did not use Outbreak Express and Internet Exploiter it would
 not
 be such a problem.

 Charles Wyble wrote:
 Ah. I've been seeing a lot of those. I knew they were malware or some
 other nonsense.

 Thanks for sharing.

 Bleh e-mail is going to die off soon, or usage models of it will
 switch to white list only. It's getting to be ridiculous.

 David Hulsebus wrote:
 FYI

 From SANS Newsbytes 6-2-09

 --Spam Spreading ZBot Masquerades as Outlook Update
 (June 22, 2009)
 Spam masquerading as a Microsoft Outlook security and stability update
 actually infects computers with ZBot, a Trojan horse program that
 steals sensitive information.  The malware contains a list of
 financial institution and social networking sites; if users visit any
 of these sites on infected machines, the malware steals login and
 credit card information and sends it back to a server controlled by
 the attacker.  Earlier variants of ZBot infected computers through
 drive-by downloads.
 http://www.scmagazineus.com/Fake-Microsoft-critical-update-spam-propagating-trojan/article/138823/



 
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Re: [WISPA] New ZBot variant for Outlook

2009-06-23 Thread Josh Luthman
I don't think we want to include addons in this as the majority of users
don't use any addons at all, or do they?

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On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:23 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net 
jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:

 I agree. And we would still see a drastic fall in spam/exploits/malware
 The FF team does a better job of patching for stuff then MFST does. Im
 not saying they are perfect by any means, just better. The add-ons for
 FF that make life so much better, like NoScript, Flash Block, Ad-Block
 and AdBlockFilterGSet make FF pretty tight. The primary issue with OE/OL/IE
 is that for the longest time they automatically ran VBScript embedded in
 email.
 Now the major issues are known holes that are months old and end users.



 Josh Luthman wrote:
  In reality if 75% of the world used Firefox those explots would be
  targeting Firefox :)
 
  On 6/23/09, jree...@18-30chat.net jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:
  Maybe if people did not use Outbreak Express and Internet Exploiter it
 would
  not
  be such a problem.
 
  Charles Wyble wrote:
  Ah. I've been seeing a lot of those. I knew they were malware or some
  other nonsense.
 
  Thanks for sharing.
 
  Bleh e-mail is going to die off soon, or usage models of it will
  switch to white list only. It's getting to be ridiculous.
 
  David Hulsebus wrote:
  FYI
 
  From SANS Newsbytes 6-2-09
 
  --Spam Spreading ZBot Masquerades as Outlook Update
  (June 22, 2009)
  Spam masquerading as a Microsoft Outlook security and stability update
  actually infects computers with ZBot, a Trojan horse program that
  steals sensitive information.  The malware contains a list of
  financial institution and social networking sites; if users visit any
  of these sites on infected machines, the malware steals login and
  credit card information and sends it back to a server controlled by
  the attacker.  Earlier variants of ZBot infected computers through
  drive-by downloads.
 
 http://www.scmagazineus.com/Fake-Microsoft-critical-update-spam-propagating-trojan/article/138823/
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] New ZBot variant for Outlook

2009-06-23 Thread jree...@18-30chat.net
Mine do. I set everyone up with the listed ones. FF is also more secure 'out of
the box'


Josh Luthman wrote:
 I don't think we want to include addons in this as the majority of users
 don't use any addons at all, or do they?
 
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 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
 
 
 On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:23 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net 
 jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:
 
 I agree. And we would still see a drastic fall in spam/exploits/malware
 The FF team does a better job of patching for stuff then MFST does. Im
 not saying they are perfect by any means, just better. The add-ons for
 FF that make life so much better, like NoScript, Flash Block, Ad-Block
 and AdBlockFilterGSet make FF pretty tight. The primary issue with OE/OL/IE
 is that for the longest time they automatically ran VBScript embedded in
 email.
 Now the major issues are known holes that are months old and end users.



 Josh Luthman wrote:
 In reality if 75% of the world used Firefox those explots would be
 targeting Firefox :)

 On 6/23/09, jree...@18-30chat.net jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:
 Maybe if people did not use Outbreak Express and Internet Exploiter it
 would
 not
 be such a problem.

 Charles Wyble wrote:
 Ah. I've been seeing a lot of those. I knew they were malware or some
 other nonsense.

 Thanks for sharing.

 Bleh e-mail is going to die off soon, or usage models of it will
 switch to white list only. It's getting to be ridiculous.

 David Hulsebus wrote:
 FYI

 From SANS Newsbytes 6-2-09

 --Spam Spreading ZBot Masquerades as Outlook Update
 (June 22, 2009)
 Spam masquerading as a Microsoft Outlook security and stability update
 actually infects computers with ZBot, a Trojan horse program that
 steals sensitive information.  The malware contains a list of
 financial institution and social networking sites; if users visit any
 of these sites on infected machines, the malware steals login and
 credit card information and sends it back to a server controlled by
 the attacker.  Earlier variants of ZBot infected computers through
 drive-by downloads.

 http://www.scmagazineus.com/Fake-Microsoft-critical-update-spam-propagating-trojan/article/138823/



 
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Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall

2009-06-23 Thread John Thomas
You might also consider a Cisco 800 or 1800 series router. They do 
firewalls well and have a nice GUI.

John

Patrick D.. Nix, Jr wrote:
 Any suggestions on a good linux firewall distro.  I'm looking at either
 implementing this or going with an older Cisco PIX 525.  Which would be
 the best way to go?  Something with a nice GUI would be good

  

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Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall

2009-06-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Wait pictures of this GUI???

On 6/23/09, John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote:
 You might also consider a Cisco 800 or 1800 series router. They do
 firewalls well and have a nice GUI.

 John

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Re: [WISPA] Magic Jack

2009-06-23 Thread John Thomas
Other opinions about Magic Jack

http://uninstallmagicjack.com/?p=5

John


Chuck Profito wrote:
 That's is what I remember from the list.  Once it was in, a 'normal'
 subscriber couldn't get it out, and they, MJ, had a subscriber installed,
 and agreed to, OPEN Back Door to any computer it was installed on!   We
 have a lot of subs with these, and I mention it to them, but they don't seem
 to get it.  Scary stuff 

 Chuck Profito
 209-988-7388
 CV-ACCESS, INC
 cprof...@cv-access.com 
 Providing High Speed Broadband 
 to Rural Central California


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 8:32 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Magic Jack

 There is some icky stuff in the EULA and apparently there is no way to
 remove it automatically...have to go to the registers to do it properly.

 Jeff
  

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 11:21 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Magic Jack

 I played with it a while back.  Very good stuff, just needs number
 portability and a little better support.  I know someone who spent nearly
 two days to pay their bill...

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 On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 11:18 AM, George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.netwrote:

   
 Who owns Magic Jack?



 Josh Luthman wrote:
 
 Summary:

 Google is becoming a phone company.  They just reserved a *million DIDs.

 *Google Voice has great features, idealing for ringing numbers you
   
 already
 
 have and its own voicemail.

 Google is taking over the technology market.  Shortly followed by 
 the economy.  Then the world.
 *
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 On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:57 AM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote:

   
 George Rogato wrote:
 
 http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/061809-google-voice.html
   
 Between this (Google acquiring a million phone numbers), and their 
 announcement a few days ago about their plans to support number 
 portability, it's almost like Google wants to be a phone company too.

 Curiously, I think I might be alright with something like that.

 (Aside: Woulda been nice to put in even a brief summary of the 
 article instead of making everyone click.)

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Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall

2009-06-23 Thread John Thomas
Here is some info

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/secursw/ps5318/index.html

John




Josh Luthman wrote:
 Wait pictures of this GUI???

 On 6/23/09, John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote:
   
 You might also consider a Cisco 800 or 1800 series router. They do
 firewalls well and have a nice GUI.

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