[WISPA] Some great photos
check out http://cryptome.org/ Scroll down a bit on the page. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Processor Load
You might see more info using some of the other similar products. My personal favorite is Astaro. Greg On Sep 2, 2009, at 8:29 AM, Mike wrote: Couldn't you run a bridge computer with something like Untangle running to see what the traffic contains at the tower site? I've never run Untangle, but have considered setting up such a device to put at a troublesome node for analysis. Thoughts? Mike At 07:41 AM 9/2/2009, you wrote: Their isn't any way to see the processes running on a MikroTik unit. If you have run away cpu load. Create a supout.rif file and send it to MikroTik support and they can figure it out. The supout.rif contains info I understand about running processes but they are the only ones that have the tool to view the content of the .rif file. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 07:10:19 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Processor Load I checked all of this before posting. That is the reason for the original question about how to see processor load. I was hoping someone would know that Mikrotik had provided something like top (for Linux) or Task Manager (for Windows) that shows the processes using the processor. Would make it a lot easier to find that the problem is a filter rule or something like that. Tom DeReggi wrote: Are you talking about a 233 mhz or 400 mhz 532? Well the first step is how much traffic is teh RF sending? 2 mbps in an Eth port, could be 15 mbps going out a RF port if lots of retransmissions due to noise. We typically saw 233Mhz 532 peak out at full CPU utulization at 18mbps or so. If two PTP links, its possible the two links are interfering with each other. As well, if you are using WDS Slave (true bridging) accross the RF paths, there is not coordiantion to prevent self interference, and it uses much more CPU processing than non-WDS routed modes. Not saying it the problem, but additional factors to investigate. As well, look for high rate of small packets, for possible DOS attacks. Its real common to see ssh attacks. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 7:24 PM Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik Processor Load Anyone know an easy way to figure out what a 532 with 2 PtP links on it would be running at 80+%? No queues, no filters. Moving about 2Mbps from the 2 backhauls down the wire. -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.74/2339 - Release Date: 09/01/09 06:52:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti CPEs - SuperAG
OK thanks that's what I need to know... Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: jree...@18-30chat.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti CPEs - SuperAG 10mhz channel, 24mbit air rate, 9.6mbit UDP, 9.3 TCP from MT to MT via MT-BS5-BS5-MT. This is a 15 mile link. It should move more data but I am CPU limited at the far end with a RB133C. UBNT AP-CPE test says 15mbit. Looks like the BS5's are not enabling compression. Mark Nash wrote: Can you verify on your AP that those features are actually functioning? Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: jree...@18-30chat.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti CPEs - SuperAG Mmmm. My Bullet 5's have ff/comp settings. I wonder if that is a mistake? Mark Nash wrote: According to Ubiquiti, these DO support ff comp: Nanostation 5 Nanostation Loco 5 Bullet 2 HP Picostation 2 HP All powerstations All others do not, including: Nanostation 2 Nanostation Loco 2 Bullet 2 (non-HP...WTF???) Bullet5 Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti CPEs - SuperAG I know that with DDWRT, you have to pay for the license and you get a key. Not sure about OpenWRT. I don't recall any current UBNT I have used that did not support ff and comp. I have used most, except for the newest that just came out. Ralph -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti CPEs - SuperAG It appears that only SOME of the Ubiquiti products enable compression fast frames, some don't. Is this accurate? Any success stories using the WRT firmware on these products? It seems that the hardware is capable, just hasn't been enabled in the firmware unless you purchase the higher end, more expensive products. This seems to be the ONLY thing keeping me from using these products in a big way as opposed to what I use now, StarOS. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Some great photos
Nice pics. The one with the Iraqi construction workers freaks me out though. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 01:33:47 -0500 check out http://cryptome.org/ Scroll down a bit on the page. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Some great photos
http://cryptome.org/0001/af-fun-news-02.htm Contained in this list are the photo and the story from the photographer's perspective, that the AP was heavily criticized for publishing, of a wounded soldier in Afghanistan that dies a few hours later. I think it's worth sharing to reflect on the sacrifices made by our young men in harms way in their effort to provide a safe future for our families and our children. It also tells the story of their days and provides a stark contrast with our lives and problems that we deal with daily. If so inclined, a daily prayer is recommended for our troop's safety and success in their endeavors to make this a safer world. Thanks for sharing Blake...Ron -Original Message- From: Blake Bowers [mailto:bbow...@mozarks.com] Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 2:34 AM To: tower-...@yahoogroups.com Cc: towerown...@yahoogroups.com; l...@yahoogroups.com; WISPA General List; towerwork...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [WISPA] Some great photos check out http://cryptome.org/ Scroll down a bit on the page. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Some great photos
I wonder WHY our US and British troops are there in a country that has never been conquered? What a waste of good lives. Richard 2009/9/6 Ron Harden rhar...@voxcorp.net http://cryptome.org/0001/af-fun-news-02.htm Contained in this list are the photo and the story from the photographer's perspective, that the AP was heavily criticized for publishing, of a wounded soldier in Afghanistan that dies a few hours later. I think it's worth sharing to reflect on the sacrifices made by our young men in harms way in their effort to provide a safe future for our families and our children. It also tells the story of their days and provides a stark contrast with our lives and problems that we deal with daily. If so inclined, a daily prayer is recommended for our troop's safety and success in their endeavors to make this a safer world. Thanks for sharing Blake...Ron -Original Message- From: Blake Bowers [mailto:bbow...@mozarks.com] Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 2:34 AM To: tower-...@yahoogroups.com Cc: towerown...@yahoogroups.com; l...@yahoogroups.com; WISPA General List; towerwork...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [WISPA] Some great photos check out http://cryptome.org/ Scroll down a bit on the page. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Some great photos
Let's refrain from the politics. Pretty sure not one person, or at the most very few, would disagree with you though. On 9/6/09, richard sterne wireless.r...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder WHY our US and British troops are there in a country that has never been conquered? What a waste of good lives. Richard 2009/9/6 Ron Harden rhar...@voxcorp.net http://cryptome.org/0001/af-fun-news-02.htm Contained in this list are the photo and the story from the photographer's perspective, that the AP was heavily criticized for publishing, of a wounded soldier in Afghanistan that dies a few hours later. I think it's worth sharing to reflect on the sacrifices made by our young men in harms way in their effort to provide a safe future for our families and our children. It also tells the story of their days and provides a stark contrast with our lives and problems that we deal with daily. If so inclined, a daily prayer is recommended for our troop's safety and success in their endeavors to make this a safer world. Thanks for sharing Blake...Ron -Original Message- From: Blake Bowers [mailto:bbow...@mozarks.com] Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 2:34 AM To: tower-...@yahoogroups.com Cc: towerown...@yahoogroups.com; l...@yahoogroups.com; WISPA General List; towerwork...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [WISPA] Some great photos check out http://cryptome.org/ Scroll down a bit on the page. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ever see Ethernet cables fail so that ...
Both times they were dry. I have had water cause ends to go bad on other calls though. On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Mikem...@aweiowa.com wrote: Curious if you blew any water out of the low end of the cat5? I had a similar thing happen one time. It was atmospheric pumping caused by pressure changes; at least that was the theory. At 06:18 PM 9/5/2009, you wrote: Believe me, I tried replacing the end connectors before rerunning the cables. On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: Yes, that is possible. Could also be the connectors. IDC (Insulation Displacement Connects) can work loose and/or corrode, especially when subjected to unnatural stress such as lightning. rabbtux rabbtux wrote: All, I have a sub that has had Several failures. The last one is understandable, in that there was a direct lightning strike in their yard winthin 75' of CPE (NS5). Its Ethernet port was bad, yet the radio was fine?? The one before that, the power company worked on the power and said their oops may have caused problems. It did even though my equipment was plugged into a UPS. They now have a brand new quality surge protector for the equipment. Anyway, the customer calls and says no internet, and that the POE box light is not on. Fine, I instruct customer to remove compatible power from the router we installed and plug into the injector. She does, and I see pings from the AP. I go on site to replace power supply later that day. I find No ethernet connectivity thru the injector to the NS5. I also find the workstation plugged into router has no ethernet connectivity to the router. I plug my laptop into router and verify that all link lites seem to work on all ports, yet the usb-ethernet adapter I installed 2 weeks ago is not seen by the workstation. yes I tried several usb ports. A couple weeks ago, I verified that our outdoor cable was good. Now as I look for answers, the only suspect is the ethernet cable. It has been in service 4-5 years, and I noticed a few staples had pulled out and left a 3 foot loop between the carport and house dangling. My theory is that this cable has an intermittent short that has fried the power supply, the ethernet port on the NS5, and the workstation ethernet port plugged into the router?? QUESTION: Have you guys seen stuff like this happen? Because this is a Bus. sub I will head out there shortly to 'finish up'. I will rip out and replace our cable, the NS5 , and probably the usb-ethernet port we put in. Sure would be nice to know I've hit the right things. your feedback is greatly appreciated! Thanks, Marshall Rabbit Meadows Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.78/2347 - Release Date: 09/05/09 05:51:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Some great photos
Well there's a good example of someone with a firm grasp on current events. Conquered?sigh I thought politics was off limits on a technical list? Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of richard sterne Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 6:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Some great photos I wonder WHY our US and British troops are there in a country that has never been conquered? What a waste of good lives. Richard 2009/9/6 Ron Harden rhar...@voxcorp.net http://cryptome.org/0001/af-fun-news-02.htm Contained in this list are the photo and the story from the photographer's perspective, that the AP was heavily criticized for publishing, of a wounded soldier in Afghanistan that dies a few hours later. I think it's worth sharing to reflect on the sacrifices made by our young men in harms way in their effort to provide a safe future for our families and our children. It also tells the story of their days and provides a stark contrast with our lives and problems that we deal with daily. If so inclined, a daily prayer is recommended for our troop's safety and success in their endeavors to make this a safer world. Thanks for sharing Blake...Ron -Original Message- From: Blake Bowers [mailto:bbow...@mozarks.com] Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 2:34 AM To: tower-...@yahoogroups.com Cc: towerown...@yahoogroups.com; l...@yahoogroups.com; WISPA General List; towerwork...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [WISPA] Some great photos check out http://cryptome.org/ Scroll down a bit on the page. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
It's phone dependant. My last phone was just about an extension of my mind. My new one leaves much to be desired and both are by Moto. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 11:15 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill That t9 stuff sucks like hell IMO. On 9/4/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Apparently someone doesn't use T9 word mode or have a smart phone. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 3:39 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill Well, keying in letters on the dtmf keypad of a phone means it's 1-4 presses per digit. Morse code is 1-4 presses per letter or 5 for numbers. Input encoding: Morse code is 1-2 press options (depending on the input device), a phone is 10-12 keys to use. So I'd say they are comparable for text data efficiency, and morse wins hands for hand-eye coordination or simplicity. Thus if phones had morse code encoders and decoders built in, people could text easier with less distraction. You know kids would learn morse code in order to become superior texters. On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 03:23:35PM -0400, Robert West wrote: That brings me back to a thought I had a few months back. Text messaging. It's been proven that a person using Morse code to enter a text message will beat someone using normal text entry. But with that, isn't text messaging pretty much the same type of thing as sending in Morse? We went from Morse to voice and it was a big improvement but now it's retro and we're back to the text. So my thought was, coming up with a phone that would do semaphore and then after that caught on, go for smoke signals then later still, the cell phone could tell my kid to run down the street and give my message in person. At that point there would be no need for the cell phone and we could charge for the luxury of not having one. I also have too much time on my hands, or so the wife tells me. Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill I guess one might say that was the original concept. I suppose smoke signals would qualify as well. Or maybe a bottle with a note cast into the sea? LOL! On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:23 AM, Frankinetli...@gmail.com wrote: The telegraph was the Victorian Internet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_Internet Frank -Original Message- From: Robert West Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:07 AM Nicola Tesla had the idea back in the late 1800's but it included the telegraph Strange but true. But he was from the future, after all. :) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism
Yes, because most people are afraid of getting caught for doing anything bad. What are they going to do, shoot you? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 10:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism So I'm curious what one would do if you saw someone there to take down your tower? Are you really going to drive there and confront someone that doesn't give a crap about doing illegal activities? Travis Microserv Jayson Baker wrote: The fixed cameras were about $30/ea. The composite to IP box was about $50. The alarm system was about $200 when we put it in 5 years ago. Yeah, the PTZ was about $2000 for a good one, great zoom, enclosure w/ fan and heat. But the news uses it as a weathercam, so we got them to foot the bill - and we provide the IP. Jayson On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Wow too rich for my blood. That has to cost a few grand right there! On 9/4/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Absolutely. PTZ on the top, 2 fixed on the bottom pointing at parking area/fence gate. Motion sensor outdoors inside the fence area. Contact sensor on the door. Always a good idea. On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Do you do those things? On 9/4/09, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: And the site owners didn't install alarms and video surveillance equipment because... Tom S. - Original Message - From: jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism http://www.elfpressoffice.org/ Someone's gotta be pretty shallow in the gene pool (or a complete crack head) to destroy a big tower with your person AT THE BASE OF THE TOWER! Where else (on the ground) would be a worse place to be with a tower coming down? I'd want to be out of the fall radius. On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 01:44:25PM -0700, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: fyi watch those towers! And don't forget to take the keys from any equipment left on site. marlon - Original Message - From: scottw...@verizon.net To: towert...@contesting.com Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism This link details recent vandalism against commercial antenna towers in Washington State http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,546561,00.html 73, Scott W3TX E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.13200 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ ___ ___ TowerTalk mailing list towert...@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Some great photos
Sorry in a bar late at night letting off steam had a bad day. Did not mean to offend END of subject. Sorry Richard 2009/9/7 Brad Belton b...@belwave.com Well there's a good example of someone with a firm grasp on current events. Conquered?sigh I thought politics was off limits on a technical list? Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of richard sterne Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 6:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Some great photos I wonder WHY our US and British troops are there in a country that has never been conquered? What a waste of good lives. Richard 2009/9/6 Ron Harden rhar...@voxcorp.net http://cryptome.org/0001/af-fun-news-02.htm Contained in this list are the photo and the story from the photographer's perspective, that the AP was heavily criticized for publishing, of a wounded soldier in Afghanistan that dies a few hours later. I think it's worth sharing to reflect on the sacrifices made by our young men in harms way in their effort to provide a safe future for our families and our children. It also tells the story of their days and provides a stark contrast with our lives and problems that we deal with daily. If so inclined, a daily prayer is recommended for our troop's safety and success in their endeavors to make this a safer world. Thanks for sharing Blake...Ron -Original Message- From: Blake Bowers [mailto:bbow...@mozarks.com] Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 2:34 AM To: tower-...@yahoogroups.com Cc: towerown...@yahoogroups.com; l...@yahoogroups.com; WISPA General List; towerwork...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [WISPA] Some great photos check out http://cryptome.org/ Scroll down a bit on the page. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism
In my area... yes. Several Fish Game officers have been shot by hunters when they get caught poaching in the middle of nowhere. People get clubbed or shot at all the time when they are surprised by someone being there, and they go into can't let this person tell anyone what we just did mode. Is it really worth the confrontation over a tower? Maybe if you could take 10 other guys with you, but otherwise it's not worth it. By the time you get there, the tower will already be over. 15 seconds with an 18v milwaukee sawzall and a sharp blade will cut through a tower leg like butter. Travis Microserv Mike Hammett wrote: Yes, because most people are afraid of getting caught for doing anything bad. What are they going to do, shoot you? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 10:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism So I'm curious what one would do if you saw someone there to take down your tower? Are you really going to drive there and confront someone that doesn't give a crap about doing illegal activities? Travis Microserv Jayson Baker wrote: The fixed cameras were about $30/ea. The composite to IP box was about $50. The alarm system was about $200 when we put it in 5 years ago. Yeah, the PTZ was about $2000 for a good one, great zoom, enclosure w/ fan and heat. But the news uses it as a weathercam, so we got them to foot the bill - and we provide the IP. Jayson On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Wow too rich for my blood. That has to cost a few grand right there! On 9/4/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Absolutely. PTZ on the top, 2 fixed on the bottom pointing at parking area/fence gate. Motion sensor outdoors inside the fence area. Contact sensor on the door. Always a good idea. On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Do you do those things? On 9/4/09, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: And the site owners didn't install alarms and video surveillance equipment because... Tom S. - Original Message - From: jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism http://www.elfpressoffice.org/ Someone's gotta be pretty shallow in the gene pool (or a complete crack head) to destroy a big tower with your person AT THE BASE OF THE TOWER! Where else (on the ground) would be a worse place to be with a tower coming down? I'd want to be out of the fall radius. On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 01:44:25PM -0700, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: fyi watch those towers! And don't forget to take the keys from any equipment left on site. marlon - Original Message - From: scottw...@verizon.net To: towert...@contesting.com Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism This link details recent vandalism against commercial antenna towers in Washington State http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,546561,00.html 73, Scott W3TX E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.13200 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ ___ ___ TowerTalk mailing list towert...@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!
[WISPA] Plane into a tower, 5 dead, Tulsa
Appears to have been a Global Tower site. Right there in the park where the plane is. http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0909/656680.html http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0909/656680_video.html?ref=newsstory Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Some great photos
It should be clear, I posted that link with no thought to politics, it was simply to show our troops in action in a field that each one of us is a part of, or is very close to us. Please folks, lets not make it political. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Some great photos
As they say a picture is worth a thousand words. I thought you were pointing out the irony / contrast between the pictures of the armed forces working with full harness and rigging fully tied to the tower, vs the local Iraqi's working without even a rope on the tower. :) Faisal Imtiaz -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Some great photos It should be clear, I posted that link with no thought to politics, it was simply to show our troops in action in a field that each one of us is a part of, or is very close to us. Please folks, lets not make it political. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
