Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
Have you tried CTB-15 from CANUSA? http://www.dsgcanusa.com/literature/datasheets/DATA_CTB-15.pdf The description seems pretty good and it does not require heat. Thanks, Mark On 11/19/09 10:56 PM, AJ aj.grant...@gmail.com wrote: I used to use Coax-seal on everything... Finally discovered CANUSA and won't ever turn back... Great seal and just takes a decent razor blade to remove with no residue... Just gotta remember to put it on the coax line *before* you tighten the fitting... Doh lol. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 7:15 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP
Deliberant would work well for this I believe. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of pat Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 3:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Need a new AP I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does 802.11b. 1) I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus. 2) Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and WPA simultaneously. (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded) 3) Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200. You input is helpful. TIA, Pat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
I been getting my EZ connectors from Tessco since 1999/2000 -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 1:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Every one I've bought from tessco and Butch has been good. Only water problems were dishes I didn't put up - sealer is your friend. On 11/19/09, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: ez240 ez400 ?? What size cable, What connector on the end (N-Male)? I've got a bunch of ez240 and a few ez400 N Male Marco On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:20 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
Where can you buy the CTB-15? Phil On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: I been getting my EZ connectors from Tessco since 1999/2000 -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 1:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Every one I've bought from tessco and Butch has been good. Only water problems were dishes I didn't put up - sealer is your friend. On 11/19/09, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: ez240 ez400 ?? What size cable, What connector on the end (N-Male)? I've got a bunch of ez240 and a few ez400 N Male Marco On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:20 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP
So a BulletM2HP will not work with a Nano NS2? Scottie -- Original Message -- From: AJ aj.grant...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:21:02 -0700 Hahaha Gmail ads came up with this firmware as I was reading this thread: http://www.fireserve.com/products/ubiquiti/bullet-m-firmware.php chop *Adds 802.11-compatible encryption modes *The stock Ubiquiti firmware only supports WPA-AES encryption. Our firmware adds support for 64-bit and 128-bit WEP, WPA-TKIP and WPA2-TKIP. /chop Pretty spendy for just a single unit... On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.comwrote: In that case, use a MikroTik RB411R. Integrated radio, and MT can do various encryptions you need. Sorry, I overlooked that part of the request. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:16 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote: Bullet M2's won't do WEP until the release of firmware version 5.1 which has been in just a couple of weeks for at least the last two months. Jayson Baker wrote: UBNT Bullet M2? On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote: I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does 802.11b. 1) I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus. 2) Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and WPA simultaneously. (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded) 3) Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200. You input is helpful. TIA, Pat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP
UBNT says it will: I received these two replies to that question (sort of, my question was a Bullet2M HP and a PowerStation2 connecting): NUMBER1 Hello, yes the TDMA can be disabled. Our full 802.11b/g support is coming in V5.1 of our firmware. Thanks, _ Michael Ford Support and Applications Manager Support Line - (408)942-1153 Main Line - (408)942-3085 Email: supp...@ubnt.com (Live Chat 10am-5pm PST) Skype: ubiquiti_support NUMBER2 Hello, All of our M series can currently disable TDMA. Thanks, _ Michael Ford Support and Applications Manager Support Line - (408)942-1153 Main Line - (408)942-3085 Email: supp...@ubnt.com (Live Chat 10am-5pm PST) Skype: ubiquiti_support On Nov 20, 2009, at 10:02 AM, Scottie Arnett wrote: So a BulletM2HP will not work with a Nano NS2? Scottie -- Original Message -- From: AJ aj.grant...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:21:02 -0700 Hahaha Gmail ads came up with this firmware as I was reading this thread: http://www.fireserve.com/products/ubiquiti/bullet-m-firmware.php chop *Adds 802.11-compatible encryption modes *The stock Ubiquiti firmware only supports WPA-AES encryption. Our firmware adds support for 64-bit and 128-bit WEP, WPA-TKIP and WPA2-TKIP. /chop Pretty spendy for just a single unit... On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.comwrote: In that case, use a MikroTik RB411R. Integrated radio, and MT can do various encryptions you need. Sorry, I overlooked that part of the request. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:16 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote: Bullet M2's won't do WEP until the release of firmware version 5.1 which has been in just a couple of weeks for at least the last two months. Jayson Baker wrote: UBNT Bullet M2? On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote: I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does 802.11b. 1) I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus. 2) Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and WPA simultaneously. (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded) 3) Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200. You input is helpful. TIA, Pat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP
It will. I have 4 set up like that right now, well with the 5 version, not the 2 but it's essentially the same. As long as the AirMax is turned off on the Bullet it works perfectly. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP So a BulletM2HP will not work with a Nano NS2? Scottie -- Original Message -- From: AJ aj.grant...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:21:02 -0700 Hahaha Gmail ads came up with this firmware as I was reading this thread: http://www.fireserve.com/products/ubiquiti/bullet-m-firmware.php chop *Adds 802.11-compatible encryption modes *The stock Ubiquiti firmware only supports WPA-AES encryption. Our firmware adds support for 64-bit and 128-bit WEP, WPA-TKIP and WPA2-TKIP. /chop Pretty spendy for just a single unit... On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.comwrote: In that case, use a MikroTik RB411R. Integrated radio, and MT can do various encryptions you need. Sorry, I overlooked that part of the request. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:16 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote: Bullet M2's won't do WEP until the release of firmware version 5.1 which has been in just a couple of weeks for at least the last two months. Jayson Baker wrote: UBNT Bullet M2? On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, pat p...@inlandnet.com wrote: I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does 802.11b. 1) I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus. 2) Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and WPA simultaneously. (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded) 3) Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200. You input is helpful. TIA, Pat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
We used to use the wrap type CANUSA product similar to Coaxseal but the mess it left took time to clean up during outage repairs just to get to the connector body And our contractors couldn't understand that one wrap was sufficient, didn't need to wrap it 3 or 4 times like electrical tape... We use almost exclusively the CFTV shrink... For underground and overhead plant we use a small butane torch (size of a deck of cards)... For overhead when the wind is hitting us (over about 10 mph at 20' AGL), we use a MAPP gas torch which speeds up the process... Our biggest thing is 1) water penetration and 2) time to remove for repair... The adhesive takes care of the water issue and the single score with a razor knife makes removal quick and without a big mess. http://dsgcanusa.com/literature/datasheets/DATA_CFTV.pdf On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Mark Stephenson m...@countryconnections.net wrote: Have you tried CTB-15 from CANUSA? http://www.dsgcanusa.com/literature/datasheets/DATA_CTB-15.pdf The description seems pretty good and it does not require heat. Thanks, Mark On 11/19/09 10:56 PM, AJ aj.grant...@gmail.com wrote: I used to use Coax-seal on everything... Finally discovered CANUSA and won't ever turn back... Great seal and just takes a decent razor blade to remove with no residue... Just gotta remember to put it on the coax line *before* you tighten the fitting... Doh lol. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 7:15 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] IPTV -- Anyone doing it?
So we're looking at $25k for the hardware to do an MPEG-4 H.264 IPTV system for up to 100 channels? Remaining items needed (or desired): 1) Middleware (Minerva) 2) Licensing (only your past seems to indicate that this can be done) 3) VoD 4) Content stream from Avail or Echostar Missing anything? Costs for the others? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 12:20 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] IPTV -- Anyone doing it? Interestingly enough, I've had a project lying on my desk for a couple weeks now which requires streaming live content to a large group of people in a neighborhood (think of it as a neighborhood association wanting to broadcast their meetings to their residents). I don't know why I didn't see the similarity between this post and that project. I just spent the last couple hours working on this, and now have a Linux server streaming the content out over the wireless network multicast without any issues. Taking a deeper look... We have ASI-input cards from Linear Systems. They take 4 ASI streams... maybe 32 each? I can't remember. A quick look on eBay found some Moto C-Band receivers that output 32 ASI streams for under $1000. An entire receiving, encoding, streaming headend for under 100 channels could be built for probably under $25,000. I don't know what you're after, but if there is some serious interest in putting effort into something like this, we might be on board. Jayson On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Blake, In general the IPTV principles being discussed would apply to any broadband wireless system either license-free, licensed, or licensed-lite. jack Blake Covarrubias wrote: I've read the responses from others who are running IPTV over wireless. My question is when you all are saying wireless, do you mean unlicensed 2.4ghz or 5.8ghz, or do you mean wireless technology in general? My company utilizes 2.5 and 3.65ghz, which are the same frequencies we'd be looking to use to deploy IPTV. -- Blake Covarrubias On Nov 15, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Every time this comes up, I say the same thing. You can't over wireless. The content owners WILL NOT license it for wireless use. I've tried numerous times -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com Sent from my Pizzicato PluckString... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Freeside
Can anyone help with an installation of Freeside on CentOS 5? Hit me off list if you have a minute to answer a couple of questions. Regards, Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Freeside
The Freeside guru that many have turned to is Jeremy Davis (contact info below) -- I'd suggest giving him a call Jeremy Davis Maximum Technologies, LLC Office 318.303.4725 www.maximumtech.us jere...@maximumtech.biz -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of cc...@dot11net.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Freeside Can anyone help with an installation of Freeside on CentOS 5? Hit me off list if you have a minute to answer a couple of questions. Regards, Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IPTV -- Anyone doing it?
The biggest ones are getting the rights to the content, and getting the content. I don't remember what we paid for Mineva. Before that, we used Espial ( http://www.espial.com/) Might want to check them out. No idea what they're cost is now either. I've never worked with any VoD content. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: So we're looking at $25k for the hardware to do an MPEG-4 H.264 IPTV system for up to 100 channels? Remaining items needed (or desired): 1) Middleware (Minerva) 2) Licensing (only your past seems to indicate that this can be done) 3) VoD 4) Content stream from Avail or Echostar Missing anything? Costs for the others? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 12:20 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] IPTV -- Anyone doing it? Interestingly enough, I've had a project lying on my desk for a couple weeks now which requires streaming live content to a large group of people in a neighborhood (think of it as a neighborhood association wanting to broadcast their meetings to their residents). I don't know why I didn't see the similarity between this post and that project. I just spent the last couple hours working on this, and now have a Linux server streaming the content out over the wireless network multicast without any issues. Taking a deeper look... We have ASI-input cards from Linear Systems. They take 4 ASI streams... maybe 32 each? I can't remember. A quick look on eBay found some Moto C-Band receivers that output 32 ASI streams for under $1000. An entire receiving, encoding, streaming headend for under 100 channels could be built for probably under $25,000. I don't know what you're after, but if there is some serious interest in putting effort into something like this, we might be on board. Jayson On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Blake, In general the IPTV principles being discussed would apply to any broadband wireless system either license-free, licensed, or licensed-lite. jack Blake Covarrubias wrote: I've read the responses from others who are running IPTV over wireless. My question is when you all are saying wireless, do you mean unlicensed 2.4ghz or 5.8ghz, or do you mean wireless technology in general? My company utilizes 2.5 and 3.65ghz, which are the same frequencies we'd be looking to use to deploy IPTV. -- Blake Covarrubias On Nov 15, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Every time this comes up, I say the same thing. You can't over wireless. The content owners WILL NOT license it for wireless use. I've tried numerous times -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com Sent from my Pizzicato PluckString... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Freeside
http://www.freeside.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Freeside:1.9:Documentation There are instructions any Linux guru should have no problem with and a CentOS RPM (experimental), too. Maybe you could ask your questions here and you can get some quick answers? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com wrote: The Freeside guru that many have turned to is Jeremy Davis (contact info below) -- I'd suggest giving him a call Jeremy Davis Maximum Technologies, LLC Office 318.303.4725 www.maximumtech.us jere...@maximumtech.biz -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of cc...@dot11net.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Freeside Can anyone help with an installation of Freeside on CentOS 5? Hit me off list if you have a minute to answer a couple of questions. Regards, Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Freeside
I second this jeremery is great to work with adn his pricing is very fair. Jory Privett - Original Message - From: Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: jere...@maximumtech.biz Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Freeside The Freeside guru that many have turned to is Jeremy Davis (contact info below) -- I'd suggest giving him a call Jeremy Davis Maximum Technologies, LLC Office 318.303.4725 www.maximumtech.us jere...@maximumtech.biz -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of cc...@dot11net.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Freeside Can anyone help with an installation of Freeside on CentOS 5? Hit me off list if you have a minute to answer a couple of questions. Regards, Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 5.6 GHZ?
My new MIMO radios have 5.6 GHZ on them, I don't recall that frequency being available in the US. Is it? Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.6 GHZ?
Part of the 5.4GHz band Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5.6 GHZ? My new MIMO radios have 5.6 GHZ on them, I don't recall that frequency being available in the US. Is it? Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.6 GHZ?
Its part of 5.4. In Canada, you have to stay out of 5600-5650 due to weather radar, suspect the US may be much the same... George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5.6 GHZ? My new MIMO radios have 5.6 GHZ on them, I don't recall that frequency being available in the US. Is it? Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Odd 5 ghz behavior
I have a backhaul feed that completely flips out when it rains.But, only when it rains heavy, and only for a short time. Yes, we took the cables apart, and no, there wasn't water in the cable connections. But, water gets into stuff slowly, and ... err... stays there. This, will be perfectly fine and when a sudden rainstorm hit will go from working as it should to fully dead in minutes. And, when the rain SLOWS (not stops), it comes back up again and will restore to full RSSI faster than I can get to it. Pacwireless grids at both ends, vertical polarization, and no noise that I know of, other than self inflicted, if I set stuff wrong. This is a shared backhaul... One end is 13 miles, one is 3 miles. The near one is off the edge of the beam a bit, mostly due to elevation settings, and being off the center of the beam by 5 or 6 degrees horizontally.The AP end sees the clients go weak and vanish.Both of the client ends see the same thing.If it stops raining, or slows to a spit, by 20 minutes we have good RSSI and the quality starts back up. The quality falls first, then RSSI when the link starts to fail. I'm baffled by this behavior, and have replaced the radio, pigtail, pulled the cable ends off to inspect for water, and didn't find any. But, where I HAVE had water leaks, the water gets in, the link dies, and stays dead. This changes quickly, having a few minutes lag behind a storm. For instance, a sudden 20 minute downpour will see the link die, but by the time it stops raining and I can drive the 10 minutes to the site, it's up and RSSI is fine. I have 2 other nearly parallel links at the same site, none of them seem to have this behavior. I do notice smallish losses in RSSI during hard rains, but nothing like going from high 60's to can't detect in minutes. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Odd 5 ghz behavior
Pull a service loop at the lowest point on the CAT5. Without cutting the conductors, slice through the jacket. Does water come out? At 09:08 PM 11/20/2009, you wrote: I have a backhaul feed that completely flips out when it rains.But, only when it rains heavy, and only for a short time. Yes, we took the cables apart, and no, there wasn't water in the cable connections. But, water gets into stuff slowly, and ... err... stays there. This, will be perfectly fine and when a sudden rainstorm hit will go from working as it should to fully dead in minutes. And, when the rain SLOWS (not stops), it comes back up again and will restore to full RSSI faster than I can get to it. Pacwireless grids at both ends, vertical polarization, and no noise that I know of, other than self inflicted, if I set stuff wrong. This is a shared backhaul... One end is 13 miles, one is 3 miles. The near one is off the edge of the beam a bit, mostly due to elevation settings, and being off the center of the beam by 5 or 6 degrees horizontally.The AP end sees the clients go weak and vanish.Both of the client ends see the same thing.If it stops raining, or slows to a spit, by 20 minutes we have good RSSI and the quality starts back up. The quality falls first, then RSSI when the link starts to fail. I'm baffled by this behavior, and have replaced the radio, pigtail, pulled the cable ends off to inspect for water, and didn't find any. But, where I HAVE had water leaks, the water gets in, the link dies, and stays dead. This changes quickly, having a few minutes lag behind a storm. For instance, a sudden 20 minute downpour will see the link die, but by the time it stops raining and I can drive the 10 minutes to the site, it's up and RSSI is fine. I have 2 other nearly parallel links at the same site, none of them seem to have this behavior. I do notice smallish losses in RSSI during hard rains, but nothing like going from high 60's to can't detect in minutes. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Odd 5 ghz behavior
How about putting a dish on the ap side, maybe with a dome, would there be enough lobe for the short hop? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Odd 5 ghz behavior Sounds like one of the feed horns are bad or you have freznel blockage that affects the link when drenched. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:08:07 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Odd 5 ghz behavior I have a backhaul feed that completely flips out when it rains.But, only when it rains heavy, and only for a short time. Yes, we took the cables apart, and no, there wasn't water in the cable connections. But, water gets into stuff slowly, and ... err... stays there. This, will be perfectly fine and when a sudden rainstorm hit will go from working as it should to fully dead in minutes. And, when the rain SLOWS (not stops), it comes back up again and will restore to full RSSI faster than I can get to it. Pacwireless grids at both ends, vertical polarization, and no noise that I know of, other than self inflicted, if I set stuff wrong. This is a shared backhaul... One end is 13 miles, one is 3 miles. The near one is off the edge of the beam a bit, mostly due to elevation settings, and being off the center of the beam by 5 or 6 degrees horizontally.The AP end sees the clients go weak and vanish.Both of the client ends see the same thing.If it stops raining, or slows to a spit, by 20 minutes we have good RSSI and the quality starts back up. The quality falls first, then RSSI when the link starts to fail. I'm baffled by this behavior, and have replaced the radio, pigtail, pulled the cable ends off to inspect for water, and didn't find any. But, where I HAVE had water leaks, the water gets in, the link dies, and stays dead. This changes quickly, having a few minutes lag behind a storm. For instance, a sudden 20 minute downpour will see the link die, but by the time it stops raining and I can drive the 10 minutes to the site, it's up and RSSI is fine. I have 2 other nearly parallel links at the same site, none of them seem to have this behavior. I do notice smallish losses in RSSI during hard rains, but nothing like going from high 60's to can't detect in minutes. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Odd 5 ghz behavior
Hmmm...bad feedhorn... hmmm... Stirs thinking. Good idea. I have replacements, and it's not too terribly hard to replace. -- From: e...@wisp-router.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:18 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Odd 5 ghz behavior Sounds like one of the feed horns are bad or you have freznel blockage that affects the link when drenched. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:08:07 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Odd 5 ghz behavior I have a backhaul feed that completely flips out when it rains.But, only when it rains heavy, and only for a short time. Yes, we took the cables apart, and no, there wasn't water in the cable connections. But, water gets into stuff slowly, and ... err... stays there. This, will be perfectly fine and when a sudden rainstorm hit will go from working as it should to fully dead in minutes. And, when the rain SLOWS (not stops), it comes back up again and will restore to full RSSI faster than I can get to it. Pacwireless grids at both ends, vertical polarization, and no noise that I know of, other than self inflicted, if I set stuff wrong. This is a shared backhaul... One end is 13 miles, one is 3 miles. The near one is off the edge of the beam a bit, mostly due to elevation settings, and being off the center of the beam by 5 or 6 degrees horizontally.The AP end sees the clients go weak and vanish.Both of the client ends see the same thing.If it stops raining, or slows to a spit, by 20 minutes we have good RSSI and the quality starts back up. The quality falls first, then RSSI when the link starts to fail. I'm baffled by this behavior, and have replaced the radio, pigtail, pulled the cable ends off to inspect for water, and didn't find any. But, where I HAVE had water leaks, the water gets in, the link dies, and stays dead. This changes quickly, having a few minutes lag behind a storm. For instance, a sudden 20 minute downpour will see the link die, but by the time it stops raining and I can drive the 10 minutes to the site, it's up and RSSI is fine. I have 2 other nearly parallel links at the same site, none of them seem to have this behavior. I do notice smallish losses in RSSI during hard rains, but nothing like going from high 60's to can't detect in minutes. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Odd 5 ghz behavior
All points are 25db pacwireless grids. -- From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:04 PM To: e...@wisp-router.com; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Odd 5 ghz behavior How about putting a dish on the ap side, maybe with a dome, would there be enough lobe for the short hop? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Odd 5 ghz behavior Sounds like one of the feed horns are bad or you have freznel blockage that affects the link when drenched. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:08:07 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Odd 5 ghz behavior I have a backhaul feed that completely flips out when it rains.But, only when it rains heavy, and only for a short time. Yes, we took the cables apart, and no, there wasn't water in the cable connections. But, water gets into stuff slowly, and ... err... stays there. This, will be perfectly fine and when a sudden rainstorm hit will go from working as it should to fully dead in minutes. And, when the rain SLOWS (not stops), it comes back up again and will restore to full RSSI faster than I can get to it. Pacwireless grids at both ends, vertical polarization, and no noise that I know of, other than self inflicted, if I set stuff wrong. This is a shared backhaul... One end is 13 miles, one is 3 miles. The near one is off the edge of the beam a bit, mostly due to elevation settings, and being off the center of the beam by 5 or 6 degrees horizontally.The AP end sees the clients go weak and vanish.Both of the client ends see the same thing.If it stops raining, or slows to a spit, by 20 minutes we have good RSSI and the quality starts back up. The quality falls first, then RSSI when the link starts to fail. I'm baffled by this behavior, and have replaced the radio, pigtail, pulled the cable ends off to inspect for water, and didn't find any. But, where I HAVE had water leaks, the water gets in, the link dies, and stays dead. This changes quickly, having a few minutes lag behind a storm. For instance, a sudden 20 minute downpour will see the link die, but by the time it stops raining and I can drive the 10 minutes to the site, it's up and RSSI is fine. I have 2 other nearly parallel links at the same site, none of them seem to have this behavior. I do notice smallish losses in RSSI during hard rains, but nothing like going from high 60's to can't detect in minutes. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Odd 5 ghz behavior
I've seen the pac wireless grid feedhorns get very tiny cracks in them, and give fits just like this in hard driving rains. I took liquid electrical tape and mopped the feedhorn all up and havn't had a problem since. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Odd 5 ghz behavior All points are 25db pacwireless grids. -- From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:04 PM To: e...@wisp-router.com; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Odd 5 ghz behavior How about putting a dish on the ap side, maybe with a dome, would there be enough lobe for the short hop? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Odd 5 ghz behavior Sounds like one of the feed horns are bad or you have freznel blockage that affects the link when drenched. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:08:07 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Odd 5 ghz behavior I have a backhaul feed that completely flips out when it rains.But, only when it rains heavy, and only for a short time. Yes, we took the cables apart, and no, there wasn't water in the cable connections. But, water gets into stuff slowly, and ... err... stays there. This, will be perfectly fine and when a sudden rainstorm hit will go from working as it should to fully dead in minutes. And, when the rain SLOWS (not stops), it comes back up again and will restore to full RSSI faster than I can get to it. Pacwireless grids at both ends, vertical polarization, and no noise that I know of, other than self inflicted, if I set stuff wrong. This is a shared backhaul... One end is 13 miles, one is 3 miles. The near one is off the edge of the beam a bit, mostly due to elevation settings, and being off the center of the beam by 5 or 6 degrees horizontally.The AP end sees the clients go weak and vanish.Both of the client ends see the same thing.If it stops raining, or slows to a spit, by 20 minutes we have good RSSI and the quality starts back up. The quality falls first, then RSSI when the link starts to fail. I'm baffled by this behavior, and have replaced the radio, pigtail, pulled the cable ends off to inspect for water, and didn't find any. But, where I HAVE had water leaks, the water gets in, the link dies, and stays dead. This changes quickly, having a few minutes lag behind a storm. For instance, a sudden 20 minute downpour will see the link die, but by the time it stops raining and I can drive the 10 minutes to the site, it's up and RSSI is fine. I have 2 other nearly parallel links at the same site, none of them seem to have this behavior. I do notice smallish losses in RSSI during hard rains, but nothing like going from high 60's to can't detect in minutes. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.6 GHZ?
5470 - 5725 is a legitimate band but DFS2 must be used on the radios. There is currently FCC activity to modify the DFS profiles for all newly-certified radios to avoid aircraft radar system in the 5.6 GHz part of the 5470-5725 band. The bottom line is - it's pretty iffy. jack Forbes Mercy wrote: My new MIMO radios have 5.6 GHZ on them, I don't recall that frequency being available in the US. Is it? Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com Sent from my Pizzicato PluckString... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
