Re: [WISPA] Friendly reminder

2010-03-19 Thread Robert West
Do you mean like that short I wired into a 220 circuit just the other day???
Man, that was some stimulating stuff!  Yikes!  A little spray paint, a new
run of wire...  No one knows!

HA!

Bob-



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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Friendly reminder

Licensed is good.  Someone you know with experience and knowledge is
better.  Especially when you ask them to do a solid job.

Did something happen recently?

On 3/18/10, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote:
 Folks,

 Please consult a licensed electrician before making any sort of
 electrical modifications to your gear.

 WISPA is a great resource, but there are times when you need to consult
 a professional. Electricity is definitely one of those things.  Failure
 to do so, could be the last thing you fail to do. Just saying.

 Be safe out there.





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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Approved Ad] $2, 750 Worth of WISP Management Gear for $499

2010-03-19 Thread Frank Crawford
http://www.ebox-platform.com/
This is a better solution for the money.

RickG wrote:
 Does anyone have one yet?

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Re: [WISPA] Friendly reminder

2010-03-19 Thread Glenn Kelley
was that the poof we saw in downtown WCH ?  ha ha 

On Mar 19, 2010, at 2:57 AM, Robert West wrote:

 Do you mean like that short I wired into a 220 circuit just the other day???
 Man, that was some stimulating stuff!  Yikes!  A little spray paint, a new
 run of wire...  No one knows!
 
 HA!
 
 Bob-
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 8:03 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Friendly reminder
 
 Licensed is good.  Someone you know with experience and knowledge is
 better.  Especially when you ask them to do a solid job.
 
 Did something happen recently?
 
 On 3/18/10, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote:
 Folks,
 
 Please consult a licensed electrician before making any sort of
 electrical modifications to your gear.
 
 WISPA is a great resource, but there are times when you need to consult
 a professional. Electricity is definitely one of those things.  Failure
 to do so, could be the last thing you fail to do. Just saying.
 
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Re: [WISPA] NPR Story on FCC Broadband Plan and Internet AccessinTrinity County California

2010-03-19 Thread Justin Wilson
That¹s the way I feel about it.  The cost of bandwidth vs. the support
and maintenance is a pain.  Squid was nice 10 years ago when we had static
content.  With all the dynamic database driven content it can be a pain for
the ISP.  If you were an Enterprise Squid might make sense.
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] NPR Story on FCC Broadband Plan and Internet
AccessinTrinity County California

No thanks - something else to maintain. I'd rather pay for the bandwidth.

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Justin Wilson - MTIN li...@mtin.net
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    We now have a client running Squid. There are some sites out there which
 maintain a list of major sites you should not be caching.   You can add
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 From: Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:00:58 -0700
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] NPR Story on FCC Broadband Plan and Internet
 AccessinTrinity County California

 I ran a squid cache (3.1.X) and saw about a 30% bandwidth savings.  But it
 broke facebook...  No more squid.


 Jason W
 RickG wrote:

 Then you get the calls saying I cant get to this website or the
 website doesnt come up right, etc.etc.

 On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net
 mailto:jree...@18-30chat.net  wrote:



 A caching proxy server would help that a lot. I am in the middle of
 moving things around but when it was active
 I was seeing a 30% drop in traffic that was not P2P.

 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:03 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
 mailto:rea...@muddyfrogwater.us  wrote:



 I'm a provider for a small rural school, where the computer lab has about
25
 machines in it.   I provide them 5 meg, and have been thinking about
turning
 it up a little, because during certain times in their computer classes,
they
 seriously swamp that 5 megs, and they don't do p2p or download ISO's or
 anything else.   It's just that 25 people clicking on the same links at the
 same moment, especially if it's some site with a small video clip or
 something,  easily can use all 5 meg and even 10 meg and still have it feel
 slow.

 Not only that, to save money, the school IT guy moved the school's website
 to a server located at the school.

 Satellite... Is not adequate for school use, as far as I'm concerned.




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 Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy
 541-969-8200  509-386-4589
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 Yes Hughes Satelite performs very poorly. But I'd also argue, how fast
 does
 20 computers for elementary school kids really need to be?




 5. What would it cost to deploy a 100 mile microwave link between Corning
 and Weaverville with a minimum of 50Mbps of bandwidth but preferably
 100Mbps



 I'm sure they could do it for much less than the $50k.







 

 
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Re: [WISPA] NPR Story on FCC Broadband Plan and Internet AccessinTrinity County California

2010-03-19 Thread Glenn Kelley
If you use some of the cheaper but still decent alternatives for Squid setup 
and support 

ie - Vyatta for example -  they help maintain that for you.

Facebook, MySpace, igoogle - etc - just make no sense to cache ... 

On the other hand - being able to simply save 30% bandwidth is huge ... in 
itself. 

Squid is much like an antenna  dish. 

Just popping it on a roof wont give you a good signal fine tuning it - will 
make all the difference in the world. 

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Re: [WISPA] Friendly reminder

2010-03-19 Thread Robert West
Nah, out in the county on a grain leg.  Wasn't paying attention.  You know
that old saying, Measure twice, cut once  I put the meter on the
thing at least 4 times but still managed to wire the wrong circuit.  Got
distracted, didn't hit it with the meter that final time before I flipped
the switch.  Electricity has a funny way of calling you an idiot.

Bob-



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Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 8:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Friendly reminder

was that the poof we saw in downtown WCH ?  ha ha 

On Mar 19, 2010, at 2:57 AM, Robert West wrote:

 Do you mean like that short I wired into a 220 circuit just the other
day???
 Man, that was some stimulating stuff!  Yikes!  A little spray paint, a new
 run of wire...  No one knows!
 
 HA!
 
 Bob-
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 8:03 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Friendly reminder
 
 Licensed is good.  Someone you know with experience and knowledge is
 better.  Especially when you ask them to do a solid job.
 
 Did something happen recently?
 
 On 3/18/10, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote:
 Folks,
 
 Please consult a licensed electrician before making any sort of
 electrical modifications to your gear.
 
 WISPA is a great resource, but there are times when you need to consult
 a professional. Electricity is definitely one of those things.  Failure
 to do so, could be the last thing you fail to do. Just saying.
 
 Be safe out there.
 
 
 


 
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[WISPA] Trango Apex Cacti template

2010-03-19 Thread Randy Cosby
Anyone have a Cacti template for a licensed Trango Apex link?

thanks,

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[WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf

2010-03-19 Thread Randy Cosby
Anyone ever seen a Trango 5830 AP go deaf?  I have one that was showing 
RSSI from AP to SU at 10 to 13db higher than SU to AP.  Same on all 
channels, vert or horiz polarity.  Cruddy linktests as well.

Thought I might have a bad noise problem, but replacing the AP fixed it.


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Re: [WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf

2010-03-19 Thread Josh Luthman
Cruddy linktests as well.

Both ways or just from SU to AP?

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On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote:
 Anyone ever seen a Trango 5830 AP go deaf?  I have one that was showing
 RSSI from AP to SU at 10 to 13db higher than SU to AP.  Same on all
 channels, vert or horiz polarity.  Cruddy linktests as well.

 Thought I might have a bad noise problem, but replacing the AP fixed it.


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Re: [WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf

2010-03-19 Thread Randy Cosby
Mostly SU to AP.



On 3/19/2010 3:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Cruddy linktests as well.
  
 Both ways or just from SU to AP?

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 On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Randy Cosbydco...@infowest.com  wrote:

 Anyone ever seen a Trango 5830 AP go deaf?  I have one that was showing
 RSSI from AP to SU at 10 to 13db higher than SU to AP.  Same on all
 channels, vert or horiz polarity.  Cruddy linktests as well.

 Thought I might have a bad noise problem, but replacing the AP fixed it.


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Re: [WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf

2010-03-19 Thread Josh Luthman
Ok.  Thanks for posting your experience.

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On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote:
 Mostly SU to AP.



 On 3/19/2010 3:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Cruddy linktests as well.

 Both ways or just from SU to AP?

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 On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Randy Cosbydco...@infowest.com  wrote:

 Anyone ever seen a Trango 5830 AP go deaf?  I have one that was showing
 RSSI from AP to SU at 10 to 13db higher than SU to AP.  Same on all
 channels, vert or horiz polarity.  Cruddy linktests as well.

 Thought I might have a bad noise problem, but replacing the AP fixed it.


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[WISPA] Platypus and VoIP

2010-03-19 Thread Jason Hensley
Anyone doing VoIP and found a way to bill accurate taxes and fees with
Platypus?




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Re: [WISPA] Platypus and VoIP

2010-03-19 Thread Jeremie Chism
We spoke to them about a year ago about doing that and they said they  
were working on it but it never went anywhere.

Sent from my iPhone

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[WISPA] Tower Mounts

2010-03-19 Thread Michael Baird
We are planning on opening up a few new towers and will have limited 
space vertically, I'm looking for a source for sidearms to mount my 
sector antennas on. The new towers are A-Frames, and I need to extend 
out from the tower probably at 2'-3' away. I'd like to hear what others 
use for this sort of thing and what vendors I can look to for products 
to fit our needs.

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Re: [WISPA] Tower Mounts

2010-03-19 Thread Josh Luthman
Tessco has some reasonable.  I'm thinking sitepro1 would have them too.

On 3/19/10, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote:
 We are planning on opening up a few new towers and will have limited
 space vertically, I'm looking for a source for sidearms to mount my
 sector antennas on. The new towers are A-Frames, and I need to extend
 out from the tower probably at 2'-3' away. I'd like to hear what others
 use for this sort of thing and what vendors I can look to for products
 to fit our needs.

 Regards
 Michael Baird


 
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Re: [WISPA] Tower Mounts

2010-03-19 Thread lakeland
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-Original Message-
From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:48:22 
To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Tower Mounts

We are planning on opening up a few new towers and will have limited 
space vertically, I'm looking for a source for sidearms to mount my 
sector antennas on. The new towers are A-Frames, and I need to extend 
out from the tower probably at 2'-3' away. I'd like to hear what others 
use for this sort of thing and what vendors I can look to for products 
to fit our needs.

Regards
Michael Baird



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Re: [WISPA] Tower Mounts

2010-03-19 Thread Jason Bailey
Save some money and go tessco,or a local fab shop?Been dealing with tessco for 
over 10 years and very happy!

--- On Fri, 3/19/10, lakel...@gbcx.net lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:


From: lakel...@gbcx.net lakel...@gbcx.net
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Mounts
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 9:18 PM


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-Original Message-
From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:48:22 
To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Tower Mounts

We are planning on opening up a few new towers and will have limited 
space vertically, I'm looking for a source for sidearms to mount my 
sector antennas on. The new towers are A-Frames, and I need to extend 
out from the tower probably at 2'-3' away. I'd like to hear what others 
use for this sort of thing and what vendors I can look to for products 
to fit our needs.

Regards
Michael Baird



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