Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
What gain of YAGI are you using? You didn't say how well it was working or not either. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. I know for a fact at least one person on the other list you and I share is doing it. It was suggested to me a few months ago. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage with 3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you? Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload on the tower is too much and looking for alternatives. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would love to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer... 1) They tend to make it possible to make shorter antennas for similar gain. For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and still have them perform well. These are great for repeaters, where there is a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the ground where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable. Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else in this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an antenna that matches their specific need. SuperPass is NOT a MTI antenna, they really serve two different market segments. MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass antenna. Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the MTI makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness. In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop on beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats easy to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other good sources. The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. I dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, also comes size. This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg. (Thats not exact db spec) There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people using Canopy are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector. When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees. With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity colocated without self interference (meaning all on adjacent channels), fasten directly to a Guyed tower structure (meaning very little horizontal seperation, maybe 3ft) if we put about 15ft of verticle seperation between each antenna. Originally, we put them back to back, which worked way better than the other native antennas could. The excellent F/B ratio and tight beamwidth made that possible. But as our buildout grew, and we had more links and varying signal strengths, and more close to beamwidth edges than others, we recognized a clear improvement when we added the verticle seperation also. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. To start out with, I have
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........
It's canopy - 8mhz channels. He is using ONE radio for all three antennas. Works like an omni and does a good job. On 5/3/10, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: What gain of YAGI are you using? You didn't say how well it was working or not either. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. I know for a fact at least one person on the other list you and I share is doing it. It was suggested to me a few months ago. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage with 3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you? Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload on the tower is too much and looking for alternatives. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would love to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer... 1) They tend to make it possible to make shorter antennas for similar gain. For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and still have them perform well. These are great for repeaters, where there is a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the ground where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable. Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else in this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an antenna that matches their specific need. SuperPass is NOT a MTI antenna, they really serve two different market segments. MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass antenna. Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the MTI makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness. In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop on beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats easy to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other good sources. The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. I dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, also comes size. This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg. (Thats not exact db spec) There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people using Canopy are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector. When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees. With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity colocated without self interference (meaning all on adjacent channels), fasten directly to a Guyed tower structure (meaning very little horizontal seperation, maybe 3ft) if we put about 15ft of verticle seperation between each antenna. Originally, we put them back to back, which worked way better than the other native antennas could. The excellent F/B ratio and tight beamwidth made that possible. But as our buildout grew, and we had more links and varying signal strengths, and more close to beamwidth edges than others, we recognized a clear improvement when we added the verticle seperation also. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com To: WISPA General List
Re: [WISPA] removal
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 06:59, Al Schneider a...@charlesstreetpartners.comwrote: (nothing) If your goal is to be unsubscribed from this list, the headers of every email contain information on how to do so: List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless, mailto:wireless-requ...@wispa.org?subject=unsubscribe Send an email as specified or visit the provided URL. If you're using Gmail (or a Gmail-hosted domain), you can click Show Details and there will be a handy unsubscribe from this list link. (It just sends an email for you; you'll probably have to confirm the request.) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)
So, in the patrol cars what is recommended? (700Mhz? / 900Mhz?) Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) 4.9 performs just like 5.2 and 5.8. There is no NLOS. I have deployed a lot of it for PD surveillance cameras. The noise floor is low, but I still have links that just will refuse to work. And there are only 2 non overlapping channels unless you squeeze your bandwidth. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) How does 4.9 perform in nLOS? Specifically looking at either the Ubiquiti SR4 or Dbii f50-PRO Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) They've got old laptops. But, I'd like to have an upgrade path for when they get new laptops. On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Yep, that's what I tried to do. If the laptop is to be stationary in the vehicle it wouldn't be an issue. But again, the thing is PCMCIA, you'd probably need the express card instead. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) Since the Ubiquiti card has an external connector, couldnt I just use a different external connector with a different antenna? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I think if they use the Ubiquiti cards, you're asking for trouble with the antenna and cable hanging off the thing. It really IS a messy setup. Installing the Mikrotik R52Hn mini-pci card inside the laptop, the mess totally goes away. If a large antenna is needed, as I did, install an SMA connector to the laptop case with a pigtail going to the card. Depending on AP placememt, it should talk to them fine. I'm actually typing this on a laptop with that config and the thing can go almost 2 blocks just with the internal antenna to a cheap linksys router in the house. Bob- - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar feather for poor relaibility! On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Yep! Had one for over a year or so. Love it, never use it And here is why.. It's the older PCMCIA slot config. The new laptops are the express card. My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot. Have to break out the old Toshiba to use the thing The antenna clips to the screen. Gets in the way. I did, however, use to use a magnetic mount on the roof and run a cable into the truck to a MMCX connector to snap into the card. worked darned well. lots of wires though. What I ended up doing was put a Mikrotik R52H card in the laptops to an SMA conector I installed in the laptop. Works much, much better and I can use either the SMA if I want to put a big antenna on it or it will use the internal laptop antenna. The bonus is that it's cheaper to go that
Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)
Alvarion 900mhz for NLOS. Only thing that works worth a darn if your going through trees plus the AP's support handoff's between towers. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 11:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) So, in the patrol cars what is recommended? (700Mhz? / 900Mhz?) Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) 4.9 performs just like 5.2 and 5.8. There is no NLOS. I have deployed a lot of it for PD surveillance cameras. The noise floor is low, but I still have links that just will refuse to work. And there are only 2 non overlapping channels unless you squeeze your bandwidth. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) How does 4.9 perform in nLOS? Specifically looking at either the Ubiquiti SR4 or Dbii f50-PRO Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) They've got old laptops. But, I'd like to have an upgrade path for when they get new laptops. On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Yep, that's what I tried to do. If the laptop is to be stationary in the vehicle it wouldn't be an issue. But again, the thing is PCMCIA, you'd probably need the express card instead. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) Since the Ubiquiti card has an external connector, couldnt I just use a different external connector with a different antenna? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I think if they use the Ubiquiti cards, you're asking for trouble with the antenna and cable hanging off the thing. It really IS a messy setup. Installing the Mikrotik R52Hn mini-pci card inside the laptop, the mess totally goes away. If a large antenna is needed, as I did, install an SMA connector to the laptop case with a pigtail going to the card. Depending on AP placememt, it should talk to them fine. I'm actually typing this on a laptop with that config and the thing can go almost 2 blocks just with the internal antenna to a cheap linksys router in the house. Bob- - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar feather for poor relaibility! On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Yep! Had one for over a year or so. Love it, never use it And here is why.. It's the older PCMCIA slot config. The new laptops are the express card. My everyday laptop is newer, no PCMCIA slot. Have to break out the old Toshiba to use the thing The antenna clips to the screen. Gets in
Re: [WISPA] Fw: FM choke
Just ordered 18 (min order of $35) of them from: www.elnamagnetics.com Saugerties , NY , 12477 Phone: (800) 553-2870 I called, ordered 18 @ 1.98/ea and they shipped them. Gave me net 30 and all I did was give them name/address/etc. Cut off time is noon-1PM and usually ships the same day (of course you have a tiny 4 hour window...). Cheapest price that I found. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:55 AM, Steven G McGehee stev...@qx.net wrote: No prob Rick -- yeah it could be that, it's Mohawk outdoor ethernet (don't know the specific model # off hand). Could also be since they only had two left in stock when I ordered that by the time my order was processed they slipped me another, smaller sized model shrugs :-) Thanks. RickG wrote: Sorry to hear that. My cable is 24 gauge, cat5e outdoor grade and the beads do fit. Maybe your cable has a thicker jacket? On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Steven G McGehee stev...@qx.net wrote: Hi Rick, I bought a couple of those beads that you linked to a few weeks ago when this was a hot topic -- but my outdoor (24 gauge) cable is too large to fit in them (i.e., the enclosure doesn't snap closed). Do you use an outdoor cable of smaller diameter than 24 gauge, or do you tape the ferrite bead enclosure closed or something? Thanks! RickG wrote: Yes, I put them on the power side of the Ethernet cable running up to the radios. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I was thinking 1 would be needed per line, but only based on where I've seen ferrite in the past. You are saying you do it on the power side of the poe, right? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:56 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I put them on the end at the ground before the POE. Not sure if two would make any difference. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: For these ferrite chokes do you put one on the cable anywhere? At one end? Two (one at each end)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:44 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I use them on Skywalker direct burial ethernet cable. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Can anyone confirm if these size ferrite pieces will work on direct buriel cat5 cable (like Mohawk or Superior Essex)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:27 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: A little less $ here: http://www.ambientweather.com/am273105.html -RickG On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: From Mouser http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Fair-Rite/0431164181/?qs=KmHvPbTOE4SbzMQqE%2fOkzw%3d%3d Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: fyi marlon Dexter Magnetic Technologies 847-956-1140 0431164181 Ferrite Bead Assembly Apryl Kuch Office Manager Odessa Office Equipment/Accima Box 489 Odessa, Wa 99159 509 982-2181 M-F 9:00 - 3:00 www.odessaoffice.com www.accima.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: Odessa Office 509-982-2181 off...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FM choke Apryl? Where do we get those ferrite beads from? marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:04 PM Subject: [WISPA] FM choke Hi, A while ago someone (Marlon?) posted a website that sells Ferrite chokes specifically for eliminating FM radio station RF in ethernet cables.
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[WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....
Hey all, I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of good answers right now. We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged, including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public IP address space is 98.100.x.x) We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed them into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant is the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from work flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's the question. Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the 10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....
Is this a Tranzeo ptmp or ptp link? Keep in mind Tranzeo is 802.11 and carries the MAC address problem with devices behind the station. Are the issues isolated to the far side of the Tranzeo and nothing else? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: Hey all, I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of good answers right now. We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged, including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public IP address space is 98.100.x.x) We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed them into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant is the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from work flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's the question. Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the 10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....
It's a PTMP setup - And yes, the problem is only on the far side. (CPE location) - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. Is this a Tranzeo ptmp or ptp link? Keep in mind Tranzeo is 802.11 and carries the MAC address problem with devices behind the station. Are the issues isolated to the far side of the Tranzeo and nothing else? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: Hey all, I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of good answers right now. We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged, including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public IP address space is 98.100.x.x) We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed them into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant is the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from work flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's the question. Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the 10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....
This smells of a layer 2.5 issue. Let me guess, the path looks like this: You - AP - CPE acting like uplink - AP - client. yeah.. Very well explained here: http://support.tranzeo.com/knowledgebase/users/kb.php?id=10038category_id=0sid2= I am looking through the 802.11-2007 spec from IEEE as this is a WLAN issue, not a Tranzeo Issue. (my wife calls it the G**-D*-ryan-these-customers-are-calling-because-you-used-the-poor-mans-repeater-again-go-put-a-freakin'-router-out-there-quit-being-so-cheap!) ryan On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: Hey all, I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of good answers right now. We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged, including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public IP address space is 98.100.x.x) We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed them into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant is the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from work flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's the question. Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the 10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....
Is the CPE nat'ed or bridged? Is this a customer's location? When the problem exists does anything pass through the link? Can the rest of the network reach the AP? CPE? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: It's a PTMP setup - And yes, the problem is only on the far side. (CPE location) - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. Is this a Tranzeo ptmp or ptp link? Keep in mind Tranzeo is 802.11 and carries the MAC address problem with devices behind the station. Are the issues isolated to the far side of the Tranzeo and nothing else? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: Hey all, I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of good answers right now. We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged, including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public IP address space is 98.100.x.x) We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed them into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant is the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from work flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's the question. Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the 10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....
Well, kinda' It's ME - UBNT 5.8 Bridge - Switch - Tranzeo AP -Tranzeo CPE Client @ POP connected to switch with Router Works perfectly - Clent @ Tranzeo CPE with Router has problems. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. This smells of a layer 2.5 issue. Let me guess, the path looks like this: You - AP - CPE acting like uplink - AP - client. yeah.. Very well explained here: http://support.tranzeo.com/knowledgebase/users/kb.php?id=10038category_id=0sid2= I am looking through the 802.11-2007 spec from IEEE as this is a WLAN issue, not a Tranzeo Issue. (my wife calls it the G**-D*-ryan-these-customers-are-calling-because-you-used-the-poor-mans-repeater-again-go-put-a-freakin'-router-out-there-quit-being-so-cheap!) ryan On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: Hey all, I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of good answers right now. We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged, including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public IP address space is 98.100.x.x) We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed them into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant is the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from work flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's the question. Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the 10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....
What do you do to solve the problem? Reboot the AP or CPE? Customer router? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: Well, kinda' It's ME - UBNT 5.8 Bridge - Switch - Tranzeo AP -Tranzeo CPE Client @ POP connected to switch with Router Works perfectly - Clent @ Tranzeo CPE with Router has problems. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. This smells of a layer 2.5 issue. Let me guess, the path looks like this: You - AP - CPE acting like uplink - AP - client. yeah.. Very well explained here: http://support.tranzeo.com/knowledgebase/users/kb.php?id=10038category_id=0sid2= I am looking through the 802.11-2007 spec from IEEE as this is a WLAN issue, not a Tranzeo Issue. (my wife calls it the G**-D*-ryan-these-customers-are-calling-because-you-used-the-poor-mans-repeater-again-go-put-a-freakin'-router-out-there-quit-being-so-cheap!) ryan On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: Hey all, I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of good answers right now. We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged, including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public IP address space is 98.100.x.x) We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed them into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant is the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from work flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's the question. Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the 10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....
CPE is in Bridge mode - Yes it's at the Clients location (to a Router) We seem to be able to always connect to the AP / CPE on the 10.0.100.x Subnet - Even while dropping pings / connectivity @ the Clients location. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. Is the CPE nat'ed or bridged? Is this a customer's location? When the problem exists does anything pass through the link? Can the rest of the network reach the AP? CPE? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: It's a PTMP setup - And yes, the problem is only on the far side. (CPE location) - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. Is this a Tranzeo ptmp or ptp link? Keep in mind Tranzeo is 802.11 and carries the MAC address problem with devices behind the station. Are the issues isolated to the far side of the Tranzeo and nothing else? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: Hey all, I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of good answers right now. We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged, including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public IP address space is 98.100.x.x) We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed them into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant is the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from work flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's the question. Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the 10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....
Sometimes rebooting the CPE helps - Sometimes the router... It just seems to come and go at random. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. What do you do to solve the problem? Reboot the AP or CPE? Customer router? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: Well, kinda' It's ME - UBNT 5.8 Bridge - Switch - Tranzeo AP -Tranzeo CPE Client @ POP connected to switch with Router Works perfectly - Clent @ Tranzeo CPE with Router has problems. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. This smells of a layer 2.5 issue. Let me guess, the path looks like this: You - AP - CPE acting like uplink - AP - client. yeah.. Very well explained here: http://support.tranzeo.com/knowledgebase/users/kb.php?id=10038category_id=0sid2= I am looking through the 802.11-2007 spec from IEEE as this is a WLAN issue, not a Tranzeo Issue. (my wife calls it the G**-D*-ryan-these-customers-are-calling-because-you-used-the-poor-mans-repeater-again-go-put-a-freakin'-router-out-there-quit-being-so-cheap!) ryan On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: Hey all, I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of good answers right now. We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged, including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public IP address space is 98.100.x.x) We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed them into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant is the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from work flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's the question. Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the 10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....
If Tranzeo can do NAT, do that. If it can not, would you be able to put a Nanostation2 in NAT mode in place of it? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: Sometimes rebooting the CPE helps - Sometimes the router... It just seems to come and go at random. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. What do you do to solve the problem? Reboot the AP or CPE? Customer router? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: Well, kinda' It's ME - UBNT 5.8 Bridge - Switch - Tranzeo AP -Tranzeo CPE Client @ POP connected to switch with Router Works perfectly - Clent @ Tranzeo CPE with Router has problems. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. This smells of a layer 2.5 issue. Let me guess, the path looks like this: You - AP - CPE acting like uplink - AP - client. yeah.. Very well explained here: http://support.tranzeo.com/knowledgebase/users/kb.php?id=10038category_id=0sid2= I am looking through the 802.11-2007 spec from IEEE as this is a WLAN issue, not a Tranzeo Issue. (my wife calls it the G**-D*-ryan-these-customers-are-calling-because-you-used-the-poor-mans-repeater-again-go-put-a-freakin'-router-out-there-quit-being-so-cheap!) ryan On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: Hey all, I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of good answers right now. We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged, including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public IP address space is 98.100.x.x) We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed them into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant is the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from work flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's the question. Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the 10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....
What does the arp table on the Tranzeo AP and CPE look like? Can you copy them to the list? And how are you bridging the UBNTs? ryan On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: Sometimes rebooting the CPE helps - Sometimes the router... It just seems to come and go at random. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. What do you do to solve the problem? Reboot the AP or CPE? Customer router? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: Well, kinda' It's ME - UBNT 5.8 Bridge - Switch - Tranzeo AP -Tranzeo CPE Client @ POP connected to switch with Router Works perfectly - Clent @ Tranzeo CPE with Router has problems. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. This smells of a layer 2.5 issue. Let me guess, the path looks like this: You - AP - CPE acting like uplink - AP - client. yeah.. Very well explained here: http://support.tranzeo.com/knowledgebase/users/kb.php?id=10038category_id=0sid2= I am looking through the 802.11-2007 spec from IEEE as this is a WLAN issue, not a Tranzeo Issue. (my wife calls it the G**-D*-ryan-these-customers-are-calling-because-you-used-the-poor-mans-repeater-again-go-put-a-freakin'-router-out-there-quit-being-so-cheap!) ryan On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: Hey all, I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of good answers right now. We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged, including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public IP address space is 98.100.x.x) We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed them into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant is the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from work flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's the question. Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the 10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....
Which CPE do you have? the SL2? You need to be on firmware 5.0.4. If you are not, you will get this same issue, at least if your hardware revision is v2. In v3 they upgraded the memory on the units. The memory is too low and cannot accommodate the routing table - or something like that. On 05/03/2010 03:14 PM, Kosinet Wireless wrote: Well, kinda' It's ME - UBNT 5.8 Bridge - Switch - Tranzeo AP -Tranzeo CPE Client @ POP connected to switch with Router Works perfectly - Clent @ Tranzeo CPE with Router has problems. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. This smells of a layer 2.5 issue. Let me guess, the path looks like this: You - AP - CPE acting like uplink - AP - client. yeah.. Very well explained here: http://support.tranzeo.com/knowledgebase/users/kb.php?id=10038category_id=0sid2= I am looking through the 802.11-2007 spec from IEEE as this is a WLAN issue, not a Tranzeo Issue. (my wife calls it the G**-D*-ryan-these-customers-are-calling-because-you-used-the-poor-mans-repeater-again-go-put-a-freakin'-router-out-there-quit-being-so-cheap!) ryan On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: Hey all, I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of good answers right now. We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged, including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public IP address space is 98.100.x.x) We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed them into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant is the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from work flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's the question. Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the 10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....
What? Huh? ryan On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote: Which CPE do you have? the SL2? You need to be on firmware 5.0.4. If you are not, you will get this same issue, at least if your hardware revision is v2. In v3 they upgraded the memory on the units. The memory is too low and cannot accommodate the routing table - or something like that. On 05/03/2010 03:14 PM, Kosinet Wireless wrote: Well, kinda' It's ME - UBNT 5.8 Bridge - Switch - Tranzeo AP -Tranzeo CPE Client @ POP connected to switch with Router Works perfectly - Clent @ Tranzeo CPE with Router has problems. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. This smells of a layer 2.5 issue. Let me guess, the path looks like this: You - AP - CPE acting like uplink - AP - client. yeah.. Very well explained here: http://support.tranzeo.com/knowledgebase/users/kb.php?id=10038category_id=0sid2= I am looking through the 802.11-2007 spec from IEEE as this is a WLAN issue, not a Tranzeo Issue. (my wife calls it the G**-D*-ryan-these-customers-are-calling-because-you-used-the-poor-mans-repeater-again-go-put-a-freakin'-router-out-there-quit-being-so-cheap!) ryan On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: Hey all, I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of good answers right now. We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged, including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public IP address space is 98.100.x.x) We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed them into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant is the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from work flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's the question. Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the 10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....
I think you mean bridge table - it's a bridge not a router. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote: Which CPE do you have? the SL2? You need to be on firmware 5.0.4. If you are not, you will get this same issue, at least if your hardware revision is v2. In v3 they upgraded the memory on the units. The memory is too low and cannot accommodate the routing table - or something like that. On 05/03/2010 03:14 PM, Kosinet Wireless wrote: Well, kinda' It's ME - UBNT 5.8 Bridge - Switch - Tranzeo AP -Tranzeo CPE Client @ POP connected to switch with Router Works perfectly - Clent @ Tranzeo CPE with Router has problems. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. This smells of a layer 2.5 issue. Let me guess, the path looks like this: You - AP - CPE acting like uplink - AP - client. yeah.. Very well explained here: http://support.tranzeo.com/knowledgebase/users/kb.php?id=10038category_id=0sid2= I am looking through the 802.11-2007 spec from IEEE as this is a WLAN issue, not a Tranzeo Issue. (my wife calls it the G**-D*-ryan-these-customers-are-calling-because-you-used-the-poor-mans-repeater-again-go-put-a-freakin'-router-out-there-quit-being-so-cheap!) ryan On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: Hey all, I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of good answers right now. We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged, including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public IP address space is 98.100.x.x) We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed them into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant is the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from work flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's the question. Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the 10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....
Ah, I see you have a separate router - you're not routing at the CPE.. then this is not your problem. On 05/03/2010 03:38 PM, Mark Dueck wrote: Which CPE do you have? the SL2? You need to be on firmware 5.0.4. If you are not, you will get this same issue, at least if your hardware revision is v2. In v3 they upgraded the memory on the units. The memory is too low and cannot accommodate the routing table - or something like that. On 05/03/2010 03:14 PM, Kosinet Wireless wrote: Well, kinda' It's ME - UBNT 5.8 Bridge - Switch - Tranzeo AP -Tranzeo CPE Client @ POP connected to switch with Router Works perfectly - Clent @ Tranzeo CPE with Router has problems. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. This smells of a layer 2.5 issue. Let me guess, the path looks like this: You - AP - CPE acting like uplink - AP - client. yeah.. Very well explained here: http://support.tranzeo.com/knowledgebase/users/kb.php?id=10038category_id=0sid2= I am looking through the 802.11-2007 spec from IEEE as this is a WLAN issue, not a Tranzeo Issue. (my wife calls it the G**-D*-ryan-these-customers-are-calling-because-you-used-the-poor-mans-repeater-again-go-put-a-freakin'-router-out-there-quit-being-so-cheap!) ryan On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: Hey all, I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of good answers right now. We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged, including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public IP address space is 98.100.x.x) We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed them into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant is the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from work flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's the question. Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the 10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....
You've swapped ethernet cables as well ? Which radio can you get into consistently ? Is there an ip address conflict ? -- Original Message -- From: Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 16:49:44 -0400 Hey all, I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of good answers right now. We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged, including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public IP address space is 98.100.x.x) We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed them into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant is the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from work flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's the question. Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the 10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....
Yes, we do all of our clients that way - Bridged Radios to Client Routers. - Original Message - From: Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. Ah, I see you have a separate router - you're not routing at the CPE.. then this is not your problem. On 05/03/2010 03:38 PM, Mark Dueck wrote: Which CPE do you have? the SL2? You need to be on firmware 5.0.4. If you are not, you will get this same issue, at least if your hardware revision is v2. In v3 they upgraded the memory on the units. The memory is too low and cannot accommodate the routing table - or something like that. On 05/03/2010 03:14 PM, Kosinet Wireless wrote: Well, kinda' It's ME - UBNT 5.8 Bridge - Switch - Tranzeo AP -Tranzeo CPE Client @ POP connected to switch with Router Works perfectly - Clent @ Tranzeo CPE with Router has problems. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. This smells of a layer 2.5 issue. Let me guess, the path looks like this: You - AP - CPE acting like uplink - AP - client. yeah.. Very well explained here: http://support.tranzeo.com/knowledgebase/users/kb.php?id=10038category_id=0sid2= I am looking through the 802.11-2007 spec from IEEE as this is a WLAN issue, not a Tranzeo Issue. (my wife calls it the G**-D*-ryan-these-customers-are-calling-because-you-used-the-poor-mans-repeater-again-go-put-a-freakin'-router-out-there-quit-being-so-cheap!) ryan On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: Hey all, I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of good answers right now. We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged, including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public IP address space is 98.100.x.x) We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed them into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant is the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from work flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's the question. Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the 10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....
We swapped everything.. We can log into all of the radios consistently, they're all on our 10.0.100.X subnet. No IP conflicts - we moved them around to be sure. The ARP table on the CPE radio only lists the local router, and the router on the other end of the bridge. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. You've swapped ethernet cables as well ? Which radio can you get into consistently ? Is there an ip address conflict ? -- Original Message -- From: Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 16:49:44 -0400 Hey all, I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of good answers right now. We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged, including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public IP address space is 98.100.x.x) We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed them into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant is the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from work flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's the question. Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the 10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)
Used Alvarion 900MHz for a year up in the land of the trees, southern Michigan - hated it! After I left that venture, they switched it all out for Trango 900 for another year or so. I think they switched to Canopy 900 after that. Not sure of those results. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Alvarion 900mhz for NLOS. Only thing that works worth a darn if your going through trees plus the AP's support handoff's between towers. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 11:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) So, in the patrol cars what is recommended? (700Mhz? / 900Mhz?) Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) 4.9 performs just like 5.2 and 5.8. There is no NLOS. I have deployed a lot of it for PD surveillance cameras. The noise floor is low, but I still have links that just will refuse to work. And there are only 2 non overlapping channels unless you squeeze your bandwidth. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) How does 4.9 perform in nLOS? Specifically looking at either the Ubiquiti SR4 or Dbii f50-PRO Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) They've got old laptops. But, I'd like to have an upgrade path for when they get new laptops. On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Yep, that's what I tried to do. If the laptop is to be stationary in the vehicle it wouldn't be an issue. But again, the thing is PCMCIA, you'd probably need the express card instead. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) Since the Ubiquiti card has an external connector, couldnt I just use a different external connector with a different antenna? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I think if they use the Ubiquiti cards, you're asking for trouble with the antenna and cable hanging off the thing. It really IS a messy setup. Installing the Mikrotik R52Hn mini-pci card inside the laptop, the mess totally goes away. If a large antenna is needed, as I did, install an SMA connector to the laptop case with a pigtail going to the card. Depending on AP placememt, it should talk to them fine. I'm actually typing this on a laptop with that config and the thing can go almost 2 blocks just with the internal antenna to a cheap linksys router in the house. Bob- - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) I've got a town that currently uses Sprint cards but they suck due to poor coverage. They have water tanks and other resource for me to put AP's on but I want to use something robust enough that they dont tar feather for poor
Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)
I've used Canopy 900Mhz while mobile before. It hopped between towers quickly enough that I'd only loose a few pings From what I've heard of Butch's Mikrotik setup, it sounds really nifty. IIRC he used two wifi cards. One would be the data connection and the other would look for a better connection and they would switch roles as the vehicle travled. Totally blew my mind that you could script up Mikrotik to do that. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:39 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Used Alvarion 900MHz for a year up in the land of the trees, southern Michigan - hated it! After I left that venture, they switched it all out for Trango 900 for another year or so. I think they switched to Canopy 900 after that. Not sure of those results. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Alvarion 900mhz for NLOS. Only thing that works worth a darn if your going through trees plus the AP's support handoff's between towers. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 11:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) So, in the patrol cars what is recommended? (700Mhz? / 900Mhz?) Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) 4.9 performs just like 5.2 and 5.8. There is no NLOS. I have deployed a lot of it for PD surveillance cameras. The noise floor is low, but I still have links that just will refuse to work. And there are only 2 non overlapping channels unless you squeeze your bandwidth. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) How does 4.9 perform in nLOS? Specifically looking at either the Ubiquiti SR4 or Dbii f50-PRO Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) They've got old laptops. But, I'd like to have an upgrade path for when they get new laptops. On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Yep, that's what I tried to do. If the laptop is to be stationary in the vehicle it wouldn't be an issue. But again, the thing is PCMCIA, you'd probably need the express card instead. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town) Since the Ubiquiti card has an external connector, couldnt I just use a different external connector with a different antenna? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I think if they use the Ubiquiti cards, you're asking for trouble with the antenna and cable hanging off the thing. It really IS a messy setup. Installing the Mikrotik R52Hn mini-pci card inside the laptop, the mess totally goes away. If a large antenna is needed, as I did, install an SMA connector to the laptop case with a pigtail going to the card. Depending on AP placememt, it should talk to them fine. I'm actually typing this on a laptop with that config and the thing can go almost 2 blocks just with the internal antenna to a cheap
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
I'd advise against Yagi's as APs if you live anywhere there is even minor ICE buildup. The last thing you want is your network going down every time there is freezing rain, when the antennas are up a tower. Also more likely the Crows will use your Yagi as their hangout sitting spot. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. I know for a fact at least one person on the other list you and I share is doing it. It was suggested to me a few months ago. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage with 3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you? Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload on the tower is too much and looking for alternatives. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would love to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer... 1) They tend to make it possible to make shorter antennas for similar gain. For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and still have them perform well. These are great for repeaters, where there is a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the ground where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable. Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else in this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an antenna that matches their specific need. SuperPass is NOT a MTI antenna, they really serve two different market segments. MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass antenna. Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the MTI makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness. In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop on beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats easy to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other good sources. The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. I dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, also comes size. This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg. (Thats not exact db spec) There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people using Canopy are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector. When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees. With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity colocated without self interference (meaning all on adjacent channels), fasten directly to a Guyed tower structure (meaning very little horizontal seperation, maybe 3ft) if we put about 15ft of verticle seperation between each antenna. Originally, we put them back to back, which worked way better than the other native antennas could. The excellent F/B ratio and tight beamwidth made that possible. But as our buildout grew, and we had more links and varying signal strengths, and more close to beamwidth edges than others, we recognized a clear improvement when we added the verticle seperation also. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday,
