Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Chuck Profito
small change:
" Please contact YOUR SERVICE PROVIDER!"

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 7:51 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

A thought occurs...

If you know what mac/IP are bad people then redirect them to a page that
says:

"You're getting Internet illegally.  Please contact your service provider."

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Mike Hammett 
wrote:
>  I think your only reasonable attempt with no support requirements is
> to cut the ack time.  Anything else reduces the coverage inside the
> establishment or increases support.
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> On 7/7/2010 10:16 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> Hey Gang
>>
>>
>>
>> Do anyone knows a equivalent of max range for a WIFI AP? Would the ACk
>> parameter work?
>>
>>
>>
>> WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest
>> trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for
>> connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.I would like to limi the
>> range on the APs for half a mile or so
>>
>>
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>>
>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>>
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>
>> 787.273.4143
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Josh Luthman
A thought occurs...

If you know what mac/IP are bad people then redirect them to a page that says:

"You're getting Internet illegally.  Please contact your service provider."

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>  I think your only reasonable attempt with no support requirements is
> to cut the ack time.  Anything else reduces the coverage inside the
> establishment or increases support.
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> On 7/7/2010 10:16 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> Hey Gang
>>
>>
>>
>> Do anyone knows a equivalent of max range for a WIFI AP? Would the ACk
>> parameter work?
>>
>>
>>
>> WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest
>> trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for
>> connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.I would like to limi the
>> range on the APs for half a mile or so
>>
>>
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>>
>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>>
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>
>> 787.273.4143
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Mike Hammett
  I think your only reasonable attempt with no support requirements is 
to cut the ack time.  Anything else reduces the coverage inside the 
establishment or increases support.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



On 7/7/2010 10:16 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> Hey Gang
>
>
>
> Do anyone knows a equivalent of max range for a WIFI AP? Would the ACk
> parameter work?
>
>
>
> WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest
> trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for
> connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.I would like to limi the
> range on the APs for half a mile or so
>
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
>
> g...@aeronetpr.com
>
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>
> 787.273.4143
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Mike
I wish you were going to St. Louis.

Your idea rocks.
 

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 7:22 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

Thinking outside the box, could there be an ever changing authorization code
that would be posted maybe via Led sign inside the business offering g the
free Wi-Fi?  Code good for maybe an hour?

I'm only an idea person.  The rest is up to you...

(Translation=Me Lazy)

Bob-



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:08 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

Sounds fair

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:22 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

Gino,

Can you maybe do a redirect page every hour or two?  Simply state you're
using free Gino internet please be sure you accept these terms of use then
hit accept to keep using it.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
that counts."
--- Winston Churchill



On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
> Exactly.  Might as well deal with them and either stop them or annoy them.
> Either way they move on.
> --
> Justin Wilson 
> http://www.mtin.net/blog
> Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support
>
>
>
> From: Josh Luthman 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:34:30 -0400
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP
>
> Costs of stopping it are higher then doing a technical work around.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> ³Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to 
> continue that counts.²
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Matt  wrote:
>>> WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest 
>>> trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for 
>>> connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.
>>
>> Is that legal?  Or is it state by state?
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Chuck Profito
We have some open spots.  When tower usage spikes Tim starts looking. So
when we see an obvious offender, like a mac logged on for 2 days, we just
block him.  if we get a complaint, we'll turn it back on, but 98 times out
of 100, no complaints. Actually, Tim's batting 100% because I don't think we
have ever had a complaint from those open spots, except the P2P won't run! (
Yeah, steeling is still steeling in our network. )

Chuck Profito
209-988-7388
CV-Access, Inc.
www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com  
Providing Broadband Internet Access to 
California's Rural Central Valley



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:58 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

Good lord are you mad?!?!  No restaurant owner wants to do that
massive amount of work...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Greg Ihnen  wrote:
> I was thinking about some way for the restaurant to identify the MAC
addresses of the machines customers have in the restaurant (maybe a simple
code 3 digit code would pop up on the customer's web browser, the restaurant
operator could use that code to identify the MAC address and allow access.
After 30 mins of no access the MAC address would get deauthorized.
>
> Greg
>
> On Jul 7, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Robert West wrote:
>
>> Thinking outside the box, could there be an ever changing authorization
code
>> that would be posted maybe via Led sign inside the business offering g
the
>> free Wi-Fi?  Code good for maybe an hour?
>>
>> I'm only an idea person.  The rest is up to you...
>>
>> (Translation=Me Lazy)
>>
>> Bob-
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Gino Villarini
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:08 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP
>>
>> Sounds fair
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> 787.273.4143
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:22 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP
>>
>> Gino,
>>
>> Can you maybe do a redirect page every hour or two?  Simply state you're
>> using free Gino internet please be sure you accept these terms of use
then
>> hit accept to keep using it.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue
>> that counts."
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>>> Exactly.  Might as well deal with them and either stop them or annoy
them.
>>> Either way they move on.
>>> --
>>> Justin Wilson 
>>> http://www.mtin.net/blog
>>> Wisp Consulting  Tower Climbing  Network Support
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Josh Luthman 
>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>>> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:34:30 -0400
>>> To: WISPA General List 
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP
>>>
>>> Costs of stopping it are higher then doing a technical work around.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> ³Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>>> continue that counts.²
>>> --- Winston Churchill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Matt  wrote:
> WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest
> trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for
> connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.

 Is that legal?  Or is it state by state?

 Matt



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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Josh Luthman
Good lord are you mad?!?!  No restaurant owner wants to do that
massive amount of work...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Greg Ihnen  wrote:
> I was thinking about some way for the restaurant to identify the MAC 
> addresses of the machines customers have in the restaurant (maybe a simple 
> code 3 digit code would pop up on the customer's web browser, the restaurant 
> operator could use that code to identify the MAC address and allow access. 
> After 30 mins of no access the MAC address would get deauthorized.
>
> Greg
>
> On Jul 7, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Robert West wrote:
>
>> Thinking outside the box, could there be an ever changing authorization code
>> that would be posted maybe via Led sign inside the business offering g the
>> free Wi-Fi?  Code good for maybe an hour?
>>
>> I'm only an idea person.  The rest is up to you...
>>
>> (Translation=Me Lazy)
>>
>> Bob-
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Gino Villarini
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:08 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP
>>
>> Sounds fair
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> 787.273.4143
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:22 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP
>>
>> Gino,
>>
>> Can you maybe do a redirect page every hour or two?  Simply state you're
>> using free Gino internet please be sure you accept these terms of use then
>> hit accept to keep using it.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
>> that counts."
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>>> Exactly.  Might as well deal with them and either stop them or annoy them.
>>> Either way they move on.
>>> --
>>> Justin Wilson 
>>> http://www.mtin.net/blog
>>> Wisp Consulting  Tower Climbing  Network Support
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Josh Luthman 
>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>>> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:34:30 -0400
>>> To: WISPA General List 
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP
>>>
>>> Costs of stopping it are higher then doing a technical work around.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> ³Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>>> continue that counts.²
>>> --- Winston Churchill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Matt  wrote:
> WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest
> trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for
> connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.

 Is that legal?  Or is it state by state?

 Matt



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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Greg Ihnen
I was thinking about some way for the restaurant to identify the MAC addresses 
of the machines customers have in the restaurant (maybe a simple code 3 digit 
code would pop up on the customer's web browser, the restaurant operator could 
use that code to identify the MAC address and allow access. After 30 mins of no 
access the MAC address would get deauthorized.

Greg

On Jul 7, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Robert West wrote:

> Thinking outside the box, could there be an ever changing authorization code
> that would be posted maybe via Led sign inside the business offering g the
> free Wi-Fi?  Code good for maybe an hour?
> 
> I'm only an idea person.  The rest is up to you...
> 
> (Translation=Me Lazy)
> 
> Bob-
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Gino Villarini
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:08 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP
> 
> Sounds fair
> 
> Gino A. Villarini
> g...@aeronetpr.com
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> 787.273.4143
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:22 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP
> 
> Gino,
> 
> Can you maybe do a redirect page every hour or two?  Simply state you're
> using free Gino internet please be sure you accept these terms of use then
> hit accept to keep using it.
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
> that counts."
> --- Winston Churchill
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>> Exactly.  Might as well deal with them and either stop them or annoy them.
>> Either way they move on.
>> --
>> Justin Wilson 
>> http://www.mtin.net/blog
>> Wisp Consulting  Tower Climbing  Network Support
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Josh Luthman 
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:34:30 -0400
>> To: WISPA General List 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP
>> 
>> Costs of stopping it are higher then doing a technical work around.
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>> ³Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to 
>> continue that counts.²
>> --- Winston Churchill
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Matt  wrote:
 WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest 
 trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for 
 connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.
>>> 
>>> Is that legal?  Or is it state by state?
>>> 
>>> Matt
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread RickG
I do that too :)

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Fred Goldstein  wrote:
> At 7/7/2010 03:36 PM, Greg wrote:
>>Yes, but turning down the TX power is a better idea. An attenuator
>>is going to decrease the RX sensitivity.
>
> I agree.  And keep the hot spot inside, away from the windows.  The
> walls will attenuate the signal too.
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread RickG
I just turn down the power. But I know you know that!

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> Hey Gang
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> Do anyone knows a equivalent of max range for a WIFI AP? Would the ACk
> parameter work?
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>
>
> WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest
> trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for
> connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.I would like to limi the
> range on the APs for half a mile or so
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Re: [WISPA] Lauderdale Lakes, Ft Lauderdale FL

2010-07-07 Thread RickG
Yes! Call Rusty Butler (Palm Beach Broadband) 561-502-9504. I copied
him on this email. -RickG

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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Robert West
Technical support..

Turn your damn wireless card on!!!

That's usually the extent of it.

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

But if it¹s a restaurant they might not want to do technical support.
Anytime you have a hotspot you have a learning curve.  We have several
clients who expressly do not want a splash page, hotspot, etc.  They don¹t
want to be technical support.   Pros and cons to everything.  You can make
the argument for the hotspot, but there are also arguments against.

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From: Stuart Pierce 
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Date: Wed,  7 Jul 2010 14:33:08 -0500
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP


Sell them a Mikrotik hotspot and setup a password, trial options and
advertisments. One advertisement can say, hey sign up for a faster speed and
no annoying advertisements.

-- Original Message --
From: Josh Luthman 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Wed, 7 Jul 2010 13:22:02 -0400

>Gino,
>
>Can you maybe do a redirect page every hour or two?  Simply state
>you're using free Gino internet please be sure you accept these terms
>of use then hit accept to keep using it.
>
>Josh Luthman
>Office: 937-552-2340
>Direct: 937-552-2343
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>Troy, OH 45373
>
>�Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>continue that counts.�
>--- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
>On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>> Exactly. �Might as well deal with them and either stop them or annoy
them.
>> Either way they move on.
>> --
>> Justin Wilson 
>> http://www.mtin.net/blog
>> Wisp Consulting � Tower Climbing � Network Support
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Josh Luthman 
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:34:30 -0400
>> To: WISPA General List 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP
>>
>> Costs of stopping it are higher then doing a technical work around.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> �Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>> continue that counts.�
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Matt  wrote:
 WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest
 trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for
 connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.
>>>
>>> Is that legal? �Or is it state by state?
>>>
>>> Matt
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Re: [WISPA] Windows 7 - Is FIPS for DIPS?

2010-07-07 Thread Robert West
I hate thingys

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Your answer is here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Security_Services#FIPS_140_validation_a
nd_NISCC_testingits a crypto thingy

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Subject: [WISPA] Windows 7 - Is FIPS for DIPS?

Customer called a few minutes ago asking if she should "Enable FIPS" on her
Windows 7 net book.

 

HUH?

 

So I pull out one of our net books, go to Manage Wireless Connections, then
view the connections properties then Advanced (Microsoft buries
everything..)  and there is a checkbox for Enabling Federal Information
Processing Standards (FIPS).  

 

Dunno!  I tell her it's not a big deal, just leave it.  I'm not into the
FIPS, even the acronym sounds stupid.  I've read up on it a bit here the
past few minutes, what's the point of all this FIPS?  

 

Is FIPS for DIPS?

 

Robert West

Just Micro Digital Services Inc.

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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Robert West
Thinking outside the box, could there be an ever changing authorization code
that would be posted maybe via Led sign inside the business offering g the
free Wi-Fi?  Code good for maybe an hour?

I'm only an idea person.  The rest is up to you...

(Translation=Me Lazy)

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Sounds fair

Gino A. Villarini
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

Gino,

Can you maybe do a redirect page every hour or two?  Simply state you're
using free Gino internet please be sure you accept these terms of use then
hit accept to keep using it.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373

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On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
> Exactly.  Might as well deal with them and either stop them or annoy them.
> Either way they move on.
> --
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> Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support
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>
>
> From: Josh Luthman 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:34:30 -0400
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP
>
> Costs of stopping it are higher then doing a technical work around.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> ³Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to 
> continue that counts.²
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Matt  wrote:
>>> WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest 
>>> trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for 
>>> connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.
>>
>> Is that legal?  Or is it state by state?
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Re: [WISPA] Lauderdale Lakes, Ft Lauderdale FL

2010-07-07 Thread Greg Ihnen
Nope.

Thanks anyway.

Greg

On Jul 7, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:

> http://www.anywhereinternet.com/
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Re: [WISPA] Lauderdale Lakes, Ft Lauderdale FL

2010-07-07 Thread Justin Wilson
http://www.anywhereinternet.com/

Try those folks.
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Subject: [WISPA] Lauderdale Lakes, Ft Lauderdale FL

Anyone have coverage there?

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[WISPA] Lauderdale Lakes, Ft Lauderdale FL

2010-07-07 Thread Greg Ihnen
Anyone have coverage there?

Thanks!
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 7/7/2010 03:36 PM, Greg wrote:
>Yes, but turning down the TX power is a better idea. An attenuator 
>is going to decrease the RX sensitivity.

I agree.  And keep the hot spot inside, away from the windows.  The 
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Greg Ihnen
Yes, but turning down the TX power is a better idea. An attenuator is going to 
decrease the RX sensitivity.

Greg

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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Justin Wilson
But if it¹s a restaurant they might not want to do technical support.
Anytime you have a hotspot you have a learning curve.  We have several
clients who expressly do not want a splash page, hotspot, etc.  They don¹t
want to be technical support.   Pros and cons to everything.  You can make
the argument for the hotspot, but there are also arguments against.

just sayin
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Sell them a Mikrotik hotspot and setup a password, trial options and
advertisments. One advertisement can say, hey sign up for a faster speed and
no annoying advertisements.

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Date:  Wed, 7 Jul 2010 13:22:02 -0400

>Gino,
>
>Can you maybe do a redirect page every hour or two?  Simply state
>you're using free Gino internet please be sure you accept these terms
>of use then hit accept to keep using it.
>
>Josh Luthman
>Office: 937-552-2340
>Direct: 937-552-2343
>1100 Wayne St
>Suite 1337
>Troy, OH 45373
>
>�Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>continue that counts.�
>--- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
>On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>> Exactly. �Might as well deal with them and either stop them or annoy them.
>> Either way they move on.
>> --
>> Justin Wilson 
>> http://www.mtin.net/blog
>> Wisp Consulting � Tower Climbing � Network Support
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Josh Luthman 
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:34:30 -0400
>> To: WISPA General List 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP
>>
>> Costs of stopping it are higher then doing a technical work around.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> �Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>> continue that counts.�
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Matt  wrote:
 WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest
 trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for
 connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.
>>>
>>> Is that legal? �Or is it state by state?
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Greg Ihnen
Yes, you can play with ack timing and limit the range, so I've been told.

I do use manual ack timing here for just that reason.

Greg

On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:

> Hey Gang
> 
> 
> 
> Do anyone knows a equivalent of max range for a WIFI AP? Would the ACk
> parameter work?
> 
> 
> 
> WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest
> trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for
> connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.I would like to limi the
> range on the APs for half a mile or so
> 
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Josh Luthman
That adds cost and effort, keep in mind.

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On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Stuart Pierce  wrote:
>
> Sell them a Mikrotik hotspot and setup a password, trial options and 
> advertisments. One advertisement can say, hey sign up for a faster speed and 
> no annoying advertisements.
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Josh Luthman 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date:  Wed, 7 Jul 2010 13:22:02 -0400
>
>>Gino,
>>
>>Can you maybe do a redirect page every hour or two?  Simply state
>>you're using free Gino internet please be sure you accept these terms
>>of use then hit accept to keep using it.
>>
>>Josh Luthman
>>Office: 937-552-2340
>>Direct: 937-552-2343
>>1100 Wayne St
>>Suite 1337
>>Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>�Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>>continue that counts.�
>>--- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>>
>>On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>>> Exactly. �Might as well deal with them and either stop them or annoy them.
>>> Either way they move on.
>>> --
>>> Justin Wilson 
>>> http://www.mtin.net/blog
>>> Wisp Consulting � Tower Climbing � Network Support
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Josh Luthman 
>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>>> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:34:30 -0400
>>> To: WISPA General List 
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP
>>>
>>> Costs of stopping it are higher then doing a technical work around.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> �Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>>> continue that counts.�
>>> --- Winston Churchill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Matt  wrote:
> WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest
> trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for
> connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.

 Is that legal? �Or is it state by state?

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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Stuart Pierce

Sell them a Mikrotik hotspot and setup a password, trial options and 
advertisments. One advertisement can say, hey sign up for a faster speed and no 
annoying advertisements.

-- Original Message --
From: Josh Luthman 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Wed, 7 Jul 2010 13:22:02 -0400

>Gino,
>
>Can you maybe do a redirect page every hour or two?  Simply state
>you're using free Gino internet please be sure you accept these terms
>of use then hit accept to keep using it.
>
>Josh Luthman
>Office: 937-552-2340
>Direct: 937-552-2343
>1100 Wayne St
>Suite 1337
>Troy, OH 45373
>
>�Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>continue that counts.�
>--- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
>On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>> Exactly. �Might as well deal with them and either stop them or annoy them.
>> Either way they move on.
>> --
>> Justin Wilson 
>> http://www.mtin.net/blog
>> Wisp Consulting � Tower Climbing � Network Support
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Josh Luthman 
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:34:30 -0400
>> To: WISPA General List 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP
>>
>> Costs of stopping it are higher then doing a technical work around.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> �Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>> continue that counts.�
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Matt  wrote:
 WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest
 trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for
 connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.
>>>
>>> Is that legal? �Or is it state by state?
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Windows 7 - Is FIPS for DIPS?

2010-07-07 Thread Chuck Profito
Your answer is here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Security_Services#FIPS_140_validation_a
nd_NISCC_testingits a crypto thingy

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Subject: [WISPA] Windows 7 - Is FIPS for DIPS?

Customer called a few minutes ago asking if she should "Enable FIPS" on her
Windows 7 net book.

 

HUH?

 

So I pull out one of our net books, go to Manage Wireless Connections, then
view the connections properties then Advanced (Microsoft buries
everything..)  and there is a checkbox for Enabling Federal Information
Processing Standards (FIPS).  

 

Dunno!  I tell her it's not a big deal, just leave it.  I'm not into the
FIPS, even the acronym sounds stupid.  I've read up on it a bit here the
past few minutes, what's the point of all this FIPS?  

 

Is FIPS for DIPS?

 

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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Gino Villarini
Sounds fair

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Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

Gino,

Can you maybe do a redirect page every hour or two?  Simply state
you're using free Gino internet please be sure you accept these terms
of use then hit accept to keep using it.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts."
--- Winston Churchill



On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
> Exactly.  Might as well deal with them and either stop them or annoy them.
> Either way they move on.
> --
> Justin Wilson 
> http://www.mtin.net/blog
> Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support
>
>
>
> From: Josh Luthman 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:34:30 -0400
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP
>
> Costs of stopping it are higher then doing a technical work around.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> ³Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.²
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Matt  wrote:
>>> WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest
>>> trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for
>>> connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.
>>
>> Is that legal?  Or is it state by state?
>>
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread richard sterne
Would an attenuator do this.

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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Josh Luthman
Gino,

Can you maybe do a redirect page every hour or two?  Simply state
you're using free Gino internet please be sure you accept these terms
of use then hit accept to keep using it.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
> Exactly.  Might as well deal with them and either stop them or annoy them.
> Either way they move on.
> --
> Justin Wilson 
> http://www.mtin.net/blog
> Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support
>
>
>
> From: Josh Luthman 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:34:30 -0400
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP
>
> Costs of stopping it are higher then doing a technical work around.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> ³Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.²
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Matt  wrote:
>>> WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest
>>> trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for
>>> connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.
>>
>> Is that legal?  Or is it state by state?
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Justin Wilson
Exactly.  Might as well deal with them and either stop them or annoy them.
Either way they move on.
-- 
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From: Josh Luthman 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:34:30 -0400
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

Costs of stopping it are higher then doing a technical work around.

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>> WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest
>> trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for
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>
> Is that legal?  Or is it state by state?
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Josh Luthman
Costs of stopping it are higher then doing a technical work around.

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On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Matt  wrote:
>> WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest
>> trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for
>> connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.
>
> Is that legal?  Or is it state by state?
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Matt
> WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest
> trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for
> connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.

Is that legal?  Or is it state by state?

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Re: [WISPA] Note of support for the WISPA Regional Meeting

2010-07-07 Thread Randy Cosby
Putting my Chamber of Commerce hat on... How about St. George, UT? :)

or V E G A S :)

Randy


On 7/6/2010 4:38 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
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> VEGAS...
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Dennis Burgess
most WIFI is like 40 miles max, nstream removes that limit? 

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:16 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

Hey Gang

 

Do anyone knows a equivalent of max range for a WIFI AP? Would the ACk
parameter work?

 

WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest
trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for
connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.I would like to limi the
range on the APs for half a mile or so

 

Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143

 





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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Justin Wilson
If it is a Mikrotik AP you could do a connect list and limit the signal
strength to a respectable number.  This way anyone who is further away from
the AP would not meet the minimum threshold to connect.

Otherwise I would do some scripting.  Have a time limit of a couple of
hours.  After the couple of hours the ³customer² is added to an access list
for 30 minutes or so  redirecting all port 80 traffic to the restaurant¹s
homepage or ³we know who you are².  That would be annoying enough for
someone who is pointing an antenna at the restaurant to look elsewhere.
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From: Gino Villarini 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 11:16:28 -0400
To: , WISPA General List 
Subject: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

Hey Gang

 

Do anyone knows a equivalent of max range for a WIFI AP? Would the ACk
parameter work?

 

WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest
trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for
connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.I would like to limi the
range on the APs for half a mile or so

 

Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143

 





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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Nick Olsen
Turn the power down?

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From: "Gino Villarini" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:16 AM
To: motor...@afmug.com, "WISPA General List" 
Subject: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

Hey Gang

Do anyone knows a equivalent of max range for a WIFI AP? Would the ACk
parameter work?

WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest
trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for
connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.I would like to limi the
range on the APs for half a mile or so

Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143



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Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Josh Luthman
ack-timeout can be dynamic or indoor - that might help.

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On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
> Hey Gang
>
>
>
> Do anyone knows a equivalent of max range for a WIFI AP? Would the ACk
> parameter work?
>
>
>
> WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest
> trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for
> connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.I would like to limi the
> range on the APs for half a mile or so
>
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
>
> g...@aeronetpr.com
>
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>
> 787.273.4143
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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[WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Gino Villarini
Hey Gang

 

Do anyone knows a equivalent of max range for a WIFI AP? Would the ACk
parameter work?

 

WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest
trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for
connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.I would like to limi the
range on the APs for half a mile or so

 

Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143

 




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Re: [WISPA] Happy Birthday to US!

2010-07-07 Thread Robert West
I'm lookin' for ya.  I'm swinging but I'm not hitting anything..

Ah, forgot.  I fight like a girl.  Sorry.  

I always forget about that...

Bob-



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:11 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Happy Birthday to US!

Until next Independence Day! 

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Robert West 
wrote:
> And THAT, sir, is exactly what I live and breathe.  But alas, it's lost on
> so many.
>
> Have a great day!  I n the heat.!  sucks.
>
> But the thread should die, no need to beat on it further.
>
> See ya!
>
> Bob-
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 5:01 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Happy Birthday to US!
>
> Here is the oath I took Bob.
>
> http://www.lacklandchiefsgroup.org/PDF/Oath%20of%20Offices.pdf
>
> Please note two things.
>
> First, I swore to uphold the constitution against all enemies both foreign
> AND domestic.
>
> Also, it has no closure.  The oath stands for as long as I live..
>
> I'd venture to guess that there are a LOT of ex military types here that
> will agree with this point of view.
>
> Sorry this is so late, turns out none of the parks in Yellowstone where
> we've been RVing had internet access :-).
>
> laters,
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Robert West" 
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Happy Birthday to US!
>
>
> Ah, but it's not just the military that protects us.  The military
protects
> us on the foreign front but what about the domestic?  Think about that.
 Who
> protects your freedoms here?  Not the military.  I have 100% respect for
the
> military, many of family members were in the military.  But again, who
> protects you HERE?  We all do, as a collective.  You see, there are 2
parts
> to this.  Foreign and domestic.  In my part of the country, it's all
> military with no mention of regular Americans who stand up and take it.
> Hijacked, as in only one side being represented.  If we have no defense of
> the Constitution and our freedoms domestically, then what?    Who is here
to
> protect you?
>
> That's what I'm saying.  There is more to our freedoms than the military.
> We are the protection.  All of us.  Together.
>
> How can anyone argue with that?
>
>
> Bob-
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of RickG
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 11:42 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Happy Birthday to US!
>
> Bob, I hope my previous post didnt come off negatively as it was not meant
> to be that way. I'm just hoping your thoughts about the military are more
> positive no matter how much you hear about them tomororow or any other
day.
> While its a wonderful thought to give all priority, isnt that like saying
we
> should all get prioirity parking when the handicap places take up the
first
> row? I'm not sure that works.
> Furhtermore, there are plenty of people in the country who dont deserve
it.
> At any rate, my main point is that I dont think the fourth was hijacked by
> the military but rather WE (US) chose to honor them on on Independence Day
> because if it werent for THEM it wouldnt exist and the right to celebrate
it
> wouldnt exist either. So, they earned everything coming to them on a
silver
> platter. As for me and many others, we have done nothing and do nothing to
> deserve the honor.
> BTW: We should only worship GOD as the good book says.
> 
> God bless the USA and everyone in it!
>
> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Robert West 
> wrote:
>> We should all get priority. Arlington is place where military are
>> condensed. The lives of fallen regular Americans are diluted all
>> across this country yet the numbers are greater than those at
>> Arlington. No one should have priority, we are all Americans and
>> Americans equally. The fourth is for all of us, we should worship no
>> one but ourselves and our country as a collective. In my mind anyhow.
>> Besides, the military have their own holidays of being worshiped. We need
> to know our own importance.
>> Me, you, us, Rickeesha..
>>
>> Bob-
>>
>>
>>
>> .
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> On Behalf Of RickG
>> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 10:44 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Happy Birthday to US!
>>
>> Bob, I agree with you to a point. It is US, as a collective. But, only
>> one group has offered and continues to offer the "ultimate sacrifice".
>> Many of our great leasers such as Washington was military. They didn't
>> just the talk, they walked the walk. I did not take the opportunity to
>> serve, but after visiting Wash