Re: [WISPA] Inexpensive outdoor netcam

[Tom Sharples]

You really get what you pay for on these. The cheap IP cams are mostly too 
crummy to get anything other than a vague,  pixelated image at the distance 
you'd probably have to mount the camera. You mught take a look at Vivotek 
which we've found to be pretty good at the lower end of the market.
On any IP camera, the lens really makes the difference. Some of the best 
(expensive) retrofit lenses are made by GBO, but you can get remarkably good 
quality without spending a fortune by re-puposing a high-quality 35mm lens 
from an old still camera. Adaptors for this purpose are available from Ebay 
or B&H.

Tom S.

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Subject: [WISPA] Inexpensive outdoor netcam


>  I'm looking for an inexpensive outdoor netcam.  Inexpensive because
> funds are slim as I rebuild the network I just bought.  I need it
> because a tower of mine was vandalized today.
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[WISPA] Inexpensive outdoor netcam

[Mike Hammett]

  I'm looking for an inexpensive outdoor netcam.  Inexpensive because 
funds are slim as I rebuild the network I just bought.  I need it 
because a tower of mine was vandalized today.

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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX v1.3.0 live

[Scott Carullo]

Hey Steven,

I upgraded one of our apex links this morning and its been fine all day in 
the wild pushing about 50Mb.

I have a few questions to compare with you though, I emailed Trango tech 
support but I never heard anything back.  Maybe I have the wrong email, its 
like they never get them??

First, I could not upgrade the sys_rfm_v130.F915283E file.  The bootimage 
upgrade 4 command returned FAILED.  Re-downloaded the file from the ftp 
site and re-tftp'd it to the radio tried again and still no love - on 
either radio.  I proceeded without it and its been working fine.  I'd like 
to know if you had the same problem and if you know what that system file 
is for.  It looks like a big text file with OIDs or something.

Second, after the upgrade, in the web interface under statistics I think, 
it shows the modulation at the top as QPSK for both sides but it isn't - a 
speed command or status modem command from the CLI returns 256QAM both 
sides at 250Mb.  The previous v123 firmware worked properly I'm pretty sure 
I would have notice that before.

Lastly, since you were discussing the new firmware on the phone with them 
do you happen to know any of the changes in this newer version?

Thanks

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Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

[Josh Luthman]

My point was rather to show it isn't garage sale quality :)

On Aug 24, 2010 7:28 PM, "Jeremy Parr"  wrote:

On 24 August 2010 17:54, Josh Luthman  wrote:
>
> Dell Outlet is 90% ne...
Exactly. There are some great bargains to be had there.




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Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

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On 24 August 2010 17:54, Josh Luthman  wrote:

> Dell Outlet is 90% new dell stuff that was shipped twice, almost
> always still in the box.  Someone ordered the wrong thing for example.
>

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Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

[Josh Luthman]

Dell Outlet is 90% new dell stuff that was shipped twice, almost
always still in the box.  Someone ordered the wrong thing for example.
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On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Brad Belton  wrote:
> There's one in the Dell Outlet right now for $9919.00 with 15 2TB 7.2K RPM 
> drives.  About 7-15x the storage you're looking for depending on how you 
> configure.  I think that's about what we paid for 15 750GB 15K RPM drives.
>
> Dell put together a complete turn-key package for us including the VMwave 
> licensing & platinum support, storage, chassis, blades, Dell support and 
> warranty.  We were lucky and found most of what we needed in the Dell Outlet 
> saving us a good amount of money.  We didn't see any reason not to go with 
> the outlet gear because it has the same warranty as new Dell gear.
>
> Best,
>
>
> Brad
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:41 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?
>
> Any idea what that cost? We're looking at ~2TB of data currently, and we'd
> like some room to grow...
>
> Kevin
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brad Belton" 
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?
>
>
>> We kept everything Dell, so we're using the Dell MD3000i with about 7TB of
>> storage.  The benefits of keeping everything Dell or HP etc outweighed the
>> cost savings in our situation.
>>
>> Dell has always taken real good care of us.  I've called Dell at 4pm with
>> an issue and they had a replacement part in my hands by 8am the next
>> morning...no charge.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Jon Auer
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:33 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?
>>
>> That's pretty cool.
>> What are you using for shared storage?
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Brad Belton  wrote:
>>> Agreed.  We’ve run HP and Dell servers for years and have been happy, but
>>> we
>>> had no idea what we were missing once we virtualized everything.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We purchased a Dell blade chassis and three blade servers to start with.
>>>  Loaded VMware and have been blown away with the performance,
>>> availability,
>>> power savings and features.  A “server” to us now amounts to just a file
>>> within VMware that we can copy, backup or move wherever we please with a
>>> simple cut & paste.  If VMware “sees” a server go down or a host within
>>> your
>>> cluster fail it will automatically fire up the affected servers on a
>>> different host.  Really cool stuff…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The chassis will hold 16 blades, but just the three blades we have now
>>> are
>>> probably 100x the power of the two 42U cabinets stuffed with servers they
>>> replaced!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:54 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24 August 2010 02:15, Matt Larsen - Lists  wrote:
>>>
>>>  I have a need for about ten 2U/4U rackmount servers.    All will be
>>> running Linux, so 4gig RAM, 2ghz or better CPU and ATA drives are
>>> preferred.   Does anyone one the list have recommendations?
>>>
>>> Buy a new Dell (or factory refurb) and virtualize everything.
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

[Brad Belton]

There's one in the Dell Outlet right now for $9919.00 with 15 2TB 7.2K RPM 
drives.  About 7-15x the storage you're looking for depending on how you 
configure.  I think that's about what we paid for 15 750GB 15K RPM drives.  

Dell put together a complete turn-key package for us including the VMwave 
licensing & platinum support, storage, chassis, blades, Dell support and 
warranty.  We were lucky and found most of what we needed in the Dell Outlet 
saving us a good amount of money.  We didn't see any reason not to go with the 
outlet gear because it has the same warranty as new Dell gear.

Best,


Brad

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Kevin Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

Any idea what that cost? We're looking at ~2TB of data currently, and we'd 
like some room to grow...

Kevin
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From: "Brad Belton" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?


> We kept everything Dell, so we're using the Dell MD3000i with about 7TB of 
> storage.  The benefits of keeping everything Dell or HP etc outweighed the 
> cost savings in our situation.
>
> Dell has always taken real good care of us.  I've called Dell at 4pm with 
> an issue and they had a replacement part in my hands by 8am the next 
> morning...no charge.
>
> Best,
>
>
> Brad
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Jon Auer
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:33 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?
>
> That's pretty cool.
> What are you using for shared storage?
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Brad Belton  wrote:
>> Agreed.  We’ve run HP and Dell servers for years and have been happy, but 
>> we
>> had no idea what we were missing once we virtualized everything.
>>
>>
>>
>> We purchased a Dell blade chassis and three blade servers to start with.
>>  Loaded VMware and have been blown away with the performance, 
>> availability,
>> power savings and features.  A “server” to us now amounts to just a file
>> within VMware that we can copy, backup or move wherever we please with a
>> simple cut & paste.  If VMware “sees” a server go down or a host within 
>> your
>> cluster fail it will automatically fire up the affected servers on a
>> different host.  Really cool stuff…
>>
>>
>>
>> The chassis will hold 16 blades, but just the three blades we have now 
>> are
>> probably 100x the power of the two 42U cabinets stuffed with servers they
>> replaced!
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>>
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:54 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 24 August 2010 02:15, Matt Larsen - Lists  wrote:
>>
>>  I have a need for about ten 2U/4U rackmount servers.All will be
>> running Linux, so 4gig RAM, 2ghz or better CPU and ATA drives are
>> preferred.   Does anyone one the list have recommendations?
>>
>> Buy a new Dell (or factory refurb) and virtualize everything.
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Matchmaker and Taxpayer Waste

[MDK]

Make the message simple and easy to understand.  

END IT!

Might even sell.   



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From: Rick Harnish 
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 4:04 PM
To: memb...@wispa.org ; 'WISPA General List' 
Subject: [WISPA] Matchmaker and Taxpayer Waste


Today I had a farmer in rural Illinois call me.  He is building a new 110' 
grain leg and was inquiring on what it would take to "do" wireless Internet 
from it.  He says he has DSL now from a rural telephone coop but they won't 
sell him wireless service from one of their towers ½ mile away because he has 
DSL.  This farmer would like to get rid of his phone line and all of the 
expense and taxes with it.  Obviously, the rural telco does not want to give up 
their USF subsidies by converting this customer over to wireless.  I was able 
to locate a WISPA member within 40 miles of his farm and introduced the two.  I 
hope it works out for both the farmer and the WISPA member.

 

The reason I bring this up is that it is evidence that USF subsidies are 
outdated and burdensome to Broadband competition and deployment.  The loss of 
income from federal USF subsidies, far outweigh the cost savings to the 
customer.  It is no wonder that people want to ditch their phone lines so 
badly.  With the federal government subsidizing this ancient copper telco 
infrastructure at an estimated average of $17,000 per line per year, common 
sense would tell every taxpayer in the US that the time for USF reform is now.  
Is it time to make some noise about this unfairness in the market place?  I 
think so!  

 

Respectfully,

 

Rick Harnish

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WISPA

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Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

[Scott Lambert]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 02:34:41AM -0400, Justin Wilson wrote:
> There are several sellers on eBay selling Dell servers.  We
> almost exclusively buy off eBay when it comes to servers.  Lots of
> Dell/IBM/Etc. hardware with warranties.  I just purchased 5 Poweredge
> 1850¹s for a client.  2x 3.4 Xeons with 4 gigs of ram, etc.  $300 a
> server. All had a 1 year warrnaty.  Space was a concern so we went
> with the 1U boxes. I know some guys don¹t like the 1U boxes because of
> proprietary fans, power, etc. But at $300 a server we have extras.  If
> I had more room in my colo space I would have bought some for myself.
>
> Just read the descriptions.  Many times the drives are gone, no
> rails, or no bezels.  Easy enough to overlook if you are in a hurry.

I agree with the eBay route if you just need three generation old
hardware to put in remote locations.  You can get very good server
grade stuff that used to be way expensive and will probably run for
years more.

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Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

[Nick White]

 My web developer sent me this a while back:
http://www.backblaze.com/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-cheap-cloud-storage.html

We're thinking of doing something similar in a new rack setup. Don't 
need that much storage, but a couple of RAID 6 servers with DRBD network 
RAID would provide quite a bit of redundancy.



On 8/24/2010 10:02 AM, Kevin Sullivan wrote:

What is everyone doing for VM storage?
Kevin

- Original Message -
*From:* Matt Larsen - Lists 
*To:* WISPA General List 
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:42 AM
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

Unfortunately, these servers are going to be geographically
dispersed, and doing things that cannot really be virtualized.  
Three will be doing NAT/policy routing, three will be running our

bandwidth tracking software, three will be terminating VOIP and
one will be a network monitoring server running Nagios/Xymon/etc etc.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

On 8/24/2010 8:17 AM, Rick Harnish wrote:


I agree.  When I last looked, we were on our third chassis
running VMWare.  The space savings and lower utility bills are
well worth it.

Rick

*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Brad Belton
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:42 AM
*To:* 'WISPA General List'
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

Agreed.  We've run HP and Dell servers for years and have been
happy, but we had no idea what we were missing once we
virtualized everything.

We purchased a Dell blade chassis and three blade servers to
start with.  Loaded VMware and have been blown away with the
performance, availability, power savings and features.  A
"server" to us now amounts to just a file within VMware that we
can copy, backup or move wherever we please with a simple cut &
paste.  If VMware "sees" a server go down or a host within your
cluster fail it will automatically fire up the affected servers
on a different host.  Really cool stuff...

The chassis will hold 16 blades, but just the three blades we
have now are probably 100x the power of the two 42U cabinets
stuffed with servers they replaced!

Best,

Brad

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On 24 August 2010 02:15, Matt Larsen - Lists mailto:li...@manageisp.com>> wrote:

 I have a need for about ten 2U/4U rackmount servers.All
will be
running Linux, so 4gig RAM, 2ghz or better CPU and ATA drives are
preferred.   Does anyone one the list have recommendations?


Buy a new Dell (or factory refurb) and virtualize everything.






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Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

[Kevin Sullivan]

Any idea what that cost? We're looking at ~2TB of data currently, and we'd 
like some room to grow...

Kevin
- Original Message - 
From: "Brad Belton" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?


> We kept everything Dell, so we're using the Dell MD3000i with about 7TB of 
> storage.  The benefits of keeping everything Dell or HP etc outweighed the 
> cost savings in our situation.
>
> Dell has always taken real good care of us.  I've called Dell at 4pm with 
> an issue and they had a replacement part in my hands by 8am the next 
> morning...no charge.
>
> Best,
>
>
> Brad
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Jon Auer
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:33 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?
>
> That's pretty cool.
> What are you using for shared storage?
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Brad Belton  wrote:
>> Agreed.  We’ve run HP and Dell servers for years and have been happy, but 
>> we
>> had no idea what we were missing once we virtualized everything.
>>
>>
>>
>> We purchased a Dell blade chassis and three blade servers to start with.
>>  Loaded VMware and have been blown away with the performance, 
>> availability,
>> power savings and features.  A “server” to us now amounts to just a file
>> within VMware that we can copy, backup or move wherever we please with a
>> simple cut & paste.  If VMware “sees” a server go down or a host within 
>> your
>> cluster fail it will automatically fire up the affected servers on a
>> different host.  Really cool stuff…
>>
>>
>>
>> The chassis will hold 16 blades, but just the three blades we have now 
>> are
>> probably 100x the power of the two 42U cabinets stuffed with servers they
>> replaced!
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>>
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:54 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 24 August 2010 02:15, Matt Larsen - Lists  wrote:
>>
>>  I have a need for about ten 2U/4U rackmount servers.All will be
>> running Linux, so 4gig RAM, 2ghz or better CPU and ATA drives are
>> preferred.   Does anyone one the list have recommendations?
>>
>> Buy a new Dell (or factory refurb) and virtualize everything.
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

[Brad Belton]

Running and beginning to migrate to our own VoIP platform was the deciding
reason we went with a blade setup.  

 

Redundancy - Redundancy - Redundancy

 

Everything is redundant and has built-in failover with alarm notification.
Things break and there's no way around that fact, so layer on the redundancy
to keep the bits flowing while you fix what broke.  

 

Best,

 

 

Brad

 

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Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 11:42 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

 

Unfortunately, these servers are going to be geographically dispersed, and
doing things that cannot really be virtualized.   Three will be doing
NAT/policy routing, three will be running our bandwidth tracking software,
three will be terminating VOIP and one will be a network monitoring server
running Nagios/Xymon/etc etc.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

On 8/24/2010 8:17 AM, Rick Harnish wrote: 

I agree.  When I last looked, we were on our third chassis running VMWare.
The space savings and lower utility bills are well worth it.

 

Rick

 

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Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:42 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

 

Agreed.  We've run HP and Dell servers for years and have been happy, but we
had no idea what we were missing once we virtualized everything.  

 

We purchased a Dell blade chassis and three blade servers to start with.
Loaded VMware and have been blown away with the performance, availability,
power savings and features.  A "server" to us now amounts to just a file
within VMware that we can copy, backup or move wherever we please with a
simple cut & paste.  If VMware "sees" a server go down or a host within your
cluster fail it will automatically fire up the affected servers on a
different host.  Really cool stuff.

 

The chassis will hold 16 blades, but just the three blades we have now are
probably 100x the power of the two 42U cabinets stuffed with servers they
replaced!

 

Best,

 

 

Brad

 

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Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:54 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

 

On 24 August 2010 02:15, Matt Larsen - Lists  wrote:

 I have a need for about ten 2U/4U rackmount servers.All will be
running Linux, so 4gig RAM, 2ghz or better CPU and ATA drives are
preferred.   Does anyone one the list have recommendations?


Buy a new Dell (or factory refurb) and virtualize everything.

 
 
 
 


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Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

[Brad Belton]

We kept everything Dell, so we're using the Dell MD3000i with about 7TB of 
storage.  The benefits of keeping everything Dell or HP etc outweighed the cost 
savings in our situation.  

Dell has always taken real good care of us.  I've called Dell at 4pm with an 
issue and they had a replacement part in my hands by 8am the next morning...no 
charge.

Best,


Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jon Auer
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:33 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

That's pretty cool.
What are you using for shared storage?

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Brad Belton  wrote:
> Agreed.  We’ve run HP and Dell servers for years and have been happy, but we
> had no idea what we were missing once we virtualized everything.
>
>
>
> We purchased a Dell blade chassis and three blade servers to start with.
>  Loaded VMware and have been blown away with the performance, availability,
> power savings and features.  A “server” to us now amounts to just a file
> within VMware that we can copy, backup or move wherever we please with a
> simple cut & paste.  If VMware “sees” a server go down or a host within your
> cluster fail it will automatically fire up the affected servers on a
> different host.  Really cool stuff…
>
>
>
> The chassis will hold 16 blades, but just the three blades we have now are
> probably 100x the power of the two 42U cabinets stuffed with servers they
> replaced!
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:54 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?
>
>
>
> On 24 August 2010 02:15, Matt Larsen - Lists  wrote:
>
>  I have a need for about ten 2U/4U rackmount servers.All will be
> running Linux, so 4gig RAM, 2ghz or better CPU and ATA drives are
> preferred.   Does anyone one the list have recommendations?
>
> Buy a new Dell (or factory refurb) and virtualize everything.
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] VPN

[Matt Hardy]

It sounds like a NAT issue to me... have you tried enabling GRE/PPTP/etc NAT
helpers?
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/Services#Service_Ports
(Assuming
you're using Mikrotik?)

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Jeremie Chism  wrote:

> I will have to get the exact figure, but I think I remember looking at that
> and it was a large number.
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Leon D. Zetekoff wrote:
>
>>  On 8/24/2010 10:09 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote:
>>
>>> I have a customer on my network with a netgear VPN router. For some
>>> reason now the VPN drops about every hour. There is no problem with the
>>> Internet, just the VPN. The customer is setup as a 1to1 nat. I am thinking
>>> it might be a nat issue but looking for suggestions.
>>>
>> how long is the tunnel set to be up for?
>>
>> leon
>>
>> No virus found in this outgoing message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3088 - Release Date: 08/22/10
>> 14:35:00
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Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

[Jeremy Parr]

On 24 August 2010 13:02, Kevin Sullivan  wrote:

>  What is everyone doing for VM storage?
>
Internal drives on small sites (prefer Raid 1 if possible, easier to recover
in the event of a controller failure) and iSCSI for larger sites. The Dell
MD3000i is a good bang for the buck if you need a single vendor solution, if
you are pinching pennies but still want a SAN, Promise makes some decent
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Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

[Josh Luthman]

I don't have much data at all so I am using two SATA disks in a mirror
RAID.  Probably 120 gigs?  I know everything fits on an 80 gig drive.

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On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Kevin Sullivan
 wrote:
> What is everyone doing for VM storage?
>
> Kevin
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Matt Larsen - Lists
> To: WISPA General List
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?
> Unfortunately, these servers are going to be geographically dispersed, and
> doing things that cannot really be virtualized.   Three will be doing
> NAT/policy routing, three will be running our bandwidth tracking software,
> three will be terminating VOIP and one will be a network monitoring server
> running Nagios/Xymon/etc etc.
>
> Matt Larsen
> vistabeam.com
>
> On 8/24/2010 8:17 AM, Rick Harnish wrote:
>
> I agree.  When I last looked, we were on our third chassis running VMWare.
> The space savings and lower utility bills are well worth it.
>
> Rick
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Brad Belton
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:42 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?
>
> Agreed.  We’ve run HP and Dell servers for years and have been happy, but we
> had no idea what we were missing once we virtualized everything.
>
> We purchased a Dell blade chassis and three blade servers to start with.
>  Loaded VMware and have been blown away with the performance, availability,
> power savings and features.  A “server” to us now amounts to just a file
> within VMware that we can copy, backup or move wherever we please with a
> simple cut & paste.  If VMware “sees” a server go down or a host within your
> cluster fail it will automatically fire up the affected servers on a
> different host.  Really cool stuff…
>
> The chassis will hold 16 blades, but just the three blades we have now are
> probably 100x the power of the two 42U cabinets stuffed with servers they
> replaced!
>
> Best,
>
> Brad
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:54 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?
>
> On 24 August 2010 02:15, Matt Larsen - Lists  wrote:
>
>  I have a need for about ten 2U/4U rackmount servers.    All will be
> running Linux, so 4gig RAM, 2ghz or better CPU and ATA drives are
> preferred.   Does anyone one the list have recommendations?
>
> Buy a new Dell (or factory refurb) and virtualize everything.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

[Kevin Sullivan]

What is everyone doing for VM storage?

Kevin
  - Original Message - 
  From: Matt Larsen - Lists 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?


  Unfortunately, these servers are going to be geographically dispersed, and 
doing things that cannot really be virtualized.   Three will be doing 
NAT/policy routing, three will be running our bandwidth tracking software, 
three will be terminating VOIP and one will be a network monitoring server 
running Nagios/Xymon/etc etc.

  Matt Larsen
  vistabeam.com

  On 8/24/2010 8:17 AM, Rick Harnish wrote: 
I agree.  When I last looked, we were on our third chassis running VMWare.  
The space savings and lower utility bills are well worth it.



Rick



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:42 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?



Agreed.  We've run HP and Dell servers for years and have been happy, but 
we had no idea what we were missing once we virtualized everything.  



We purchased a Dell blade chassis and three blade servers to start with.  
Loaded VMware and have been blown away with the performance, availability, 
power savings and features.  A "server" to us now amounts to just a file within 
VMware that we can copy, backup or move wherever we please with a simple cut & 
paste.  If VMware "sees" a server go down or a host within your cluster fail it 
will automatically fire up the affected servers on a different host.  Really 
cool stuff.



The chassis will hold 16 blades, but just the three blades we have now are 
probably 100x the power of the two 42U cabinets stuffed with servers they 
replaced!



Best,





Brad



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:54 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?



On 24 August 2010 02:15, Matt Larsen - Lists  wrote:

   I have a need for about ten 2U/4U rackmount servers.All will be
  running Linux, so 4gig RAM, 2ghz or better CPU and ATA drives are
  preferred.   Does anyone one the list have recommendations?


Buy a new Dell (or factory refurb) and virtualize everything.





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Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

[Matt Larsen - Lists]

 Unfortunately, these servers are going to be geographically dispersed, 
and doing things that cannot really be virtualized.   Three will be 
doing NAT/policy routing, three will be running our bandwidth tracking 
software, three will be terminating VOIP and one will be a network 
monitoring server running Nagios/Xymon/etc etc.


Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

On 8/24/2010 8:17 AM, Rick Harnish wrote:


I agree.  When I last looked, we were on our third chassis running 
VMWare.  The space savings and lower utility bills are well worth it.


Rick

*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Brad Belton

*Sent:* Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:42 AM
*To:* 'WISPA General List'
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

Agreed.  We've run HP and Dell servers for years and have been happy, 
but we had no idea what we were missing once we virtualized everything.


We purchased a Dell blade chassis and three blade servers to start 
with.  Loaded VMware and have been blown away with the performance, 
availability, power savings and features.  A "server" to us now 
amounts to just a file within VMware that we can copy, backup or move 
wherever we please with a simple cut & paste.  If VMware "sees" a 
server go down or a host within your cluster fail it will 
automatically fire up the affected servers on a different host.  
Really cool stuff...


The chassis will hold 16 blades, but just the three blades we have now 
are probably 100x the power of the two 42U cabinets stuffed with 
servers they replaced!


Best,

Brad

*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Jeremy Parr

*Sent:* Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:54 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

On 24 August 2010 02:15, Matt Larsen - Lists > wrote:


 I have a need for about ten 2U/4U rackmount servers.All will be
running Linux, so 4gig RAM, 2ghz or better CPU and ATA drives are
preferred.   Does anyone one the list have recommendations?


Buy a new Dell (or factory refurb) and virtualize everything.





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Re: [WISPA] Outdoor STP 5e

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On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 15:17 -0400, Steven McGehee wrote: 
> I was looking to buy some Mohawk Outdoor Cat5e STP cable,  ( 
> http://www.mohawk-cable.com/images/products/pdf/lantrak%20cat%205e%20sctp.pdf 
> ) but my vendor informed me that it takes 4-5 weeks to get ordered, 
> compared to two days for the UTP version. Does anyone have a quicker 
> route to obtain such cable? I'm not stuck on Mohawk as a brand, but I 
> know and love their Outdoor UTP stuff.

Where do you live?  Many times, you can save some money if you can
purchase locally (or at least nearby).

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Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

[Jon Auer]

Unfortunately that's a fact of life of enterprise software.
Any sufficiently powerfully piece of software will require a lot of
customization to do exactly what you want.
Witness all the Oracle/PeopleSoft/SAP consultants. :-/

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Dennis Burgess  wrote:
> This is where a single system still don't do everything needed.  Kinda
> stinks.
>
>
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> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Gino Villarini
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 5:51 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Cc: WISPA General List
>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backend systems
>
>
>
> Chuck, would you be willing to share or sell your code?
>
> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>
>
>
> On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:48 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
>
> Inventory stuff?  Gerard has built some custom PHP scripts to do some neat
> things...and I have done some as well.  Problem is, we keep saying "ooh it'd
> be neat to do this..." and then we go and do it. So our Platypus
> installation isn't the norm at all.
>
> Regards,
>
> Chuck Hogg
>
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> 502-722-9292
> ch...@shelbybb.com
>
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>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> Chuck - did you ever get an automated system for your network
> equipment?  I thought you were working on something to do all that.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
>> We use Platypus as well.  The cost is well worth it, and is cheaper than
>> most.  $100/mth for up to 1,000 customers,  $200/mth for 5000 customers.
>>  It
>> integrates with IPPay flawlessly.  It has the capability to do a lot of
>> customizing.  $2000 for a full 2 day training course, in your office if
>> you
>> can't figure it out.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>
>>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>>>
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>
>>> 787.273.4143
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of David Sovereen
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 8:07 PM
>>>
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backend systems
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Have you looked at Platypus?  Costs less, does more, scales big, and is a
>>> proven solution (I've been using for 13 years, since 1997).
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On Aug 22, 2010 7:50 PM,  wrote:
>>> > I have been using Quickbooks memorized transactions since 2001, I
>>> > added a JFFNMS monitoring server in 2004, a Scrutinizer Netflow server
>>> > in 2007 We currently have 700+ customers
>>> >
>>> > My main problem with Quickbooks for billing is that it does not handle
>>> > late fees adequately, so I don't charge them now. I have 300 customers
>>> > I could charge a $5 late fee this month and about 40 people I could
>>> > charge a $15 reconnect fee this month as well. That is over $2, 000: I
>>> > know with late fees, this number would come down, maybe cut in
>>> > half(which would mean I would get my money sooner). That is why I can
>>> > cost justify moving to Powercode. I have seen enough improvement over
>>> > the last year with Bertram buying them that I feel comfortable enough
>>> > to move forward with them.
>>> >
>>> > My other problems are, call tracking for tech support, auto shutoff
>>> > and auto reconnect. Online payment and transaction
>>> > history for my customers, double data entry into Quickbooks and
>>> > JFFNMS. Everything I need(still keep Netflow Server) to see would be
>>> > on one system. My hope is that all the Azotel will continue to improve
>>> > which should keep the Powercode folks focused on adding features and
>>> > enhancements to their system. Competition is good for everyone!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sunday 22/08/2010 at 3:33 pm, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>> >> I'm looking to have something completely in place by the end of the
>>> >> year. Because of the issues Matt pointed out, I don't want to really
>>> >> add much more until it's automated.
>>> >>
>>> >> Well, after I rebuild a bunch of backhauls and turn a new network into
>>> >> a
>>> >> routed one, the backends are next on my list.
>>> >>
>>> >> There sure isn't much information out there on Azotel. If I didn't get
>>> >> the Solutions4ebiz emails, I'd think it was a secret. I remember
>>> >> deciding against Platypus years ago, but now I don't remember why.
>>> >> Maybe I should revisit.
>>> >>
>>> >> The thing I don't like about WISPMon is that it's outsourced. Well,
>>> >> unless I pay $10k, which would be inappropriate for my size. I don't
>>> >> outsource my em

Re: [WISPA] VPN

[Jeremie Chism]

I will have to get the exact figure, but I think I remember looking at that
and it was a large number.

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Leon D. Zetekoff  wrote:

>  On 8/24/2010 10:09 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote:
>
>> I have a customer on my network with a netgear VPN router. For some reason
>> now the VPN drops about every hour. There is no problem with the Internet,
>> just the VPN. The customer is setup as a 1to1 nat. I am thinking it might be
>> a nat issue but looking for suggestions.
>>
> how long is the tunnel set to be up for?
>
> leon
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Re: [WISPA] VPN

[Leon D. Zetekoff]

 On 8/24/2010 10:09 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote:

I have a customer on my network with a netgear VPN router. For some reason now 
the VPN drops about every hour. There is no problem with the Internet, just the 
VPN. The customer is setup as a 1to1 nat. I am thinking it might be a nat issue 
but looking for suggestions.

how long is the tunnel set to be up for?

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Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

[Chris Gotstein]

If you are looking for new, i've been buying my servers from IXsystems
out of California for the past 6 years.  They have a good range of
products and also sell blade systems.  Very stable hardware.  They are a
big contributor to open source and FreeBSD.  If you want contact info,
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On 8/24/2010 9:48 AM, Nick White wrote:
>   Computer Geeks usually has good stuff. I've bought both new (Intel) 
> and refurb (HP) servers from them. Selection looks a bit low at the 
> moment, but a month ago they had three times what's listed now.
> http://www.geeks.com/products_sc.asp?cat=821
> 
> Otherwise eBay is always a good source.
> 
> 
> On 8/23/2010 11:15 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
>>I have a need for about ten 2U/4U rackmount servers.All will be
>> running Linux, so 4gig RAM, 2ghz or better CPU and ATA drives are
>> preferred.   Does anyone one the list have recommendations?
>>
>> Matt Larsen
>> vistabeam.com
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Re: [WISPA] VPN

[Jerry Richardson]

Yeah yeah, it's never anything at the other end

The Internet is OK, the VPN is not, I would not spend too much tim looking at 
my own network.

Set up a monitor from your headend to the VPN concentrator. I would suspect 
packet loss, or some type of peering issue.


- Jerry

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jeremie Chism
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 8:24 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VPN

It is from their office to a billing server at some location.  Supposedly they 
say nothing is wrong at the other end, so I only have half the story.
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Jerry Richardson 
mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com>> wrote:
Is this a VPN to a corporate office? Could be at the other end.

Jerry Richardson
Sent Mobile

On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:11 AM, "Jeremie Chism" 
mailto:jchi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I thought the same thing, but it also drops while they are entering data, so 
there should be data moving over the connection.
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net>> wrote:
Could be a NAT Issues or a timeout (IP SEC VPN's have two timeouts that
can setup).


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: 
supp...@snappydsl.net

On 8/24/2010 10:09 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote:
> I have a customer on my network with a netgear VPN router. For some reason 
> now the VPN drops about every hour. There is no problem with the Internet, 
> just the VPN. The customer is setup as a 1to1 nat. I am thinking it might be 
> a nat issue but looking for suggestions.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

[Jon Auer]

That's pretty cool.
What are you using for shared storage?

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Brad Belton  wrote:
> Agreed.  We’ve run HP and Dell servers for years and have been happy, but we
> had no idea what we were missing once we virtualized everything.
>
>
>
> We purchased a Dell blade chassis and three blade servers to start with.
>  Loaded VMware and have been blown away with the performance, availability,
> power savings and features.  A “server” to us now amounts to just a file
> within VMware that we can copy, backup or move wherever we please with a
> simple cut & paste.  If VMware “sees” a server go down or a host within your
> cluster fail it will automatically fire up the affected servers on a
> different host.  Really cool stuff…
>
>
>
> The chassis will hold 16 blades, but just the three blades we have now are
> probably 100x the power of the two 42U cabinets stuffed with servers they
> replaced!
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:54 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?
>
>
>
> On 24 August 2010 02:15, Matt Larsen - Lists  wrote:
>
>  I have a need for about ten 2U/4U rackmount servers.    All will be
> running Linux, so 4gig RAM, 2ghz or better CPU and ATA drives are
> preferred.   Does anyone one the list have recommendations?
>
> Buy a new Dell (or factory refurb) and virtualize everything.
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Re: [WISPA] VPN

[Blake Covarrubias]

Could be an MTU issue. This thread has some tips on how to debug those issues.

http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=42859

Or it could be NAT…yet another reason to avoid NATing customers.

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On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:14 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:

> Is this a VPN to a corporate office? Could be at the other end.
> 
> Jerry Richardson
> Sent Mobile
> 
> On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:11 AM, "Jeremie Chism"  wrote:
> 
>> I thought the same thing, but it also drops while they are entering data, so 
>> there should be data moving over the connection.
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Faisal Imtiaz  wrote:
>> Could be a NAT Issues or a timeout (IP SEC VPN's have two timeouts that
>> can setup).
>> 
>> 
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, Fl 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>> Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net
>> 
>> On 8/24/2010 10:09 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote:
>> > I have a customer on my network with a netgear VPN router. For some reason 
>> > now the VPN drops about every hour. There is no problem with the Internet, 
>> > just the VPN. The customer is setup as a 1to1 nat. I am thinking it might 
>> > be a nat issue but looking for suggestions.
>> >
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Re: [WISPA] VPN

[Jeremie Chism]

It is from their office to a billing server at some location.  Supposedly
they say nothing is wrong at the other end, so I only have half the story.

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Jerry Richardson  wrote:

> Is this a VPN to a corporate office? Could be at the other end.
>
> Jerry Richardson
> Sent Mobile
>
> On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:11 AM, "Jeremie Chism"  wrote:
>
> I thought the same thing, but it also drops while they are entering data,
> so there should be data moving over the connection.
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Faisal Imtiaz < 
> fai...@snappydsl.net> wrote:
>
>> Could be a NAT Issues or a timeout (IP SEC VPN's have two timeouts that
>> can setup).
>>
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, Fl 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>> Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: 
>> supp...@snappydsl.net
>>
>> On 8/24/2010 10:09 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote:
>> > I have a customer on my network with a netgear VPN router. For some
>> reason now the VPN drops about every hour. There is no problem with the
>> Internet, just the VPN. The customer is setup as a 1to1 nat. I am thinking
>> it might be a nat issue but looking for suggestions.
>> >
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Re: [WISPA] VPN

[Jerry Richardson]

Is this a VPN to a corporate office? Could be at the other end.

Jerry Richardson
Sent Mobile

On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:11 AM, "Jeremie Chism" 
mailto:jchi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I thought the same thing, but it also drops while they are entering data, so 
there should be data moving over the connection.

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
<fai...@snappydsl.net>
 wrote:
Could be a NAT Issues or a timeout (IP SEC VPN's have two timeouts that
can setup).


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email:  
supp...@snappydsl.net

On 8/24/2010 10:09 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote:
> I have a customer on my network with a netgear VPN router. For some reason 
> now the VPN drops about every hour. There is no problem with the Internet, 
> just the VPN. The customer is setup as a 1to1 nat. I am thinking it might be 
> a nat issue but looking for suggestions.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [WISPA] VPN

[Jeremie Chism]

I thought the same thing, but it also drops while they are entering data, so
there should be data moving over the connection.

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Faisal Imtiaz  wrote:

> Could be a NAT Issues or a timeout (IP SEC VPN's have two timeouts that
> can setup).
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, Fl 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net
>
> On 8/24/2010 10:09 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote:
> > I have a customer on my network with a netgear VPN router. For some
> reason now the VPN drops about every hour. There is no problem with the
> Internet, just the VPN. The customer is setup as a 1to1 nat. I am thinking
> it might be a nat issue but looking for suggestions.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

[Nick White]

  Computer Geeks usually has good stuff. I've bought both new (Intel) 
and refurb (HP) servers from them. Selection looks a bit low at the 
moment, but a month ago they had three times what's listed now.
http://www.geeks.com/products_sc.asp?cat=821

Otherwise eBay is always a good source.


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>I have a need for about ten 2U/4U rackmount servers.All will be
> running Linux, so 4gig RAM, 2ghz or better CPU and ATA drives are
> preferred.   Does anyone one the list have recommendations?
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Re: [WISPA] VPN

[Jeremie Chism]

Router has a static private ip that corresponds to a public ip.  1 to 1 nat.

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Mike  wrote:

> Are you assigning the router an address via DHCP?  Try setting the renew
> lease time to some outrageously high value.
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> Friendly Regards,
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> I have a customer on my network with a netgear VPN router. For some reason
> now the VPN drops about every hour. There is no problem with the Internet,
> just the VPN. The customer is setup as a 1to1 nat. I am thinking it might
> be
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Re: [WISPA] VPN

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Could be a NAT Issues or a timeout (IP SEC VPN's have two timeouts that 
can setup).


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On 8/24/2010 10:09 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote:
> I have a customer on my network with a netgear VPN router. For some reason 
> now the VPN drops about every hour. There is no problem with the Internet, 
> just the VPN. The customer is setup as a 1to1 nat. I am thinking it might be 
> a nat issue but looking for suggestions.
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Re: [WISPA] VPN

[Mike]

Are you assigning the router an address via DHCP?  Try setting the renew
lease time to some outrageously high value.

Friendly Regards,
 
Mike
 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeremie Chism
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:10 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] VPN

I have a customer on my network with a netgear VPN router. For some reason
now the VPN drops about every hour. There is no problem with the Internet,
just the VPN. The customer is setup as a 1to1 nat. I am thinking it might be
a nat issue but looking for suggestions. 

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Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

[David E. Smith]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 01:15, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:

>  I have a need for about ten 2U/4U rackmount servers.All will be
> running Linux, so 4gig RAM, 2ghz or better CPU and ATA drives are
> preferred.   Does anyone one the list have recommendations?
>

If the workload is one that can be virtualized, buy one or two big servers
(order the drives and RAM from Newegg to save money) and get VMware ESXi.

If not, I've been happy with eRacks (eracks.com), or of course Dell.

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Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

[Rick Harnish]

I agree.  When I last looked, we were on our third chassis running VMWare.
The space savings and lower utility bills are well worth it.

 

Rick

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:42 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

 

Agreed.  We've run HP and Dell servers for years and have been happy, but we
had no idea what we were missing once we virtualized everything.  

 

We purchased a Dell blade chassis and three blade servers to start with.
Loaded VMware and have been blown away with the performance, availability,
power savings and features.  A "server" to us now amounts to just a file
within VMware that we can copy, backup or move wherever we please with a
simple cut & paste.  If VMware "sees" a server go down or a host within your
cluster fail it will automatically fire up the affected servers on a
different host.  Really cool stuff.

 

The chassis will hold 16 blades, but just the three blades we have now are
probably 100x the power of the two 42U cabinets stuffed with servers they
replaced!

 

Best,

 

 

Brad

 

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Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:54 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

 

On 24 August 2010 02:15, Matt Larsen - Lists  wrote:

 I have a need for about ten 2U/4U rackmount servers.All will be
running Linux, so 4gig RAM, 2ghz or better CPU and ATA drives are
preferred.   Does anyone one the list have recommendations?


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Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

[Dennis Burgess]

This is where a single system still don't do everything needed.  Kinda stinks.  

 

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Author of "Learn RouterOS"  

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 5:51 PM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

 

Chuck, would you be willing to share or sell your code?

Sent from my Motorola Startac... 

 


On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:48 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:

Inventory stuff?  Gerard has built some custom PHP scripts to do some 
neat things...and I have done some as well.  Problem is, we keep saying "ooh 
it'd be neat to do this..." and then we go and do it. So our Platypus 
installation isn't the norm at all.




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On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Josh Luthman 
 wrote:

Chuck - did you ever get an automated system for your network
equipment?  I thought you were working on something to do all that.


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On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
> We use Platypus as well.  The cost is well worth it, and is cheaper 
than
> most.  $100/mth for up to 1,000 customers,  $200/mth for 5000 
customers.  It
> integrates with IPPay flawlessly.  It has the capability to do a lot 
of
> customizing.  $2000 for a full 2 day training course, in your office 
if you
> can't figure it out.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Gino Villarini  
wrote:
>>
>> +1
>>
>>
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>>
>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>>
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>
>> 787.273.4143
>>
>> 
>>
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
On
>> Behalf Of David Sovereen
>> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 8:07 PM
>>
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backend systems
>>
>>
>>
>> Have you looked at Platypus?  Costs less, does more, scales big, and 
is a
>> proven solution (I've been using for 13 years, since 1997).
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Aug 22, 2010 7:50 PM,  wrote:
>> > I have been using Quickbooks memorized transactions since 2001, I
>> > added a JFFNMS monitoring server in 2004, a Scrutinizer Netflow 
server
>> > in 2007 We currently have 700+ customers
>> >
>> > My main problem with Quickbooks for billing is that it does not 
handle
>> > late fees adequately, so I don't charge them now. I have 300 
customers
>> > I could charge a $5 late fee this month and about 40 people I could
>> > charge a $15 reconnect fee this month as well. That is over $2, 
000: I
>> > know with late fees, this number would come down, maybe cut in
>> > half(which would mean I would get my money sooner). That is why I 
can
>> > cost justify moving to Powercode. I have seen enough improvement 
over
>> > the last year with Bertram buying them that I feel comfortable 
enough
>> > to move forward with them.
>> >
>> > My other problems are, call tracking for tech support, auto shutoff
>> > and auto reconnect. Online payment and transaction
>> > history for my customers, double data entry into Quickbooks and
>> > JFFNMS. Everything I need(still keep Netflow Server) to see would 
be
>> > on one system. My hope is that all the Azotel will continue to 
improve
>> > which should keep the Powercode folks focused on adding features 
and
>> > enhancements to their system. Competition is good for everyone!
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sunday 22/08/2010 at 3:33 pm, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> >> I'm looking to have something completely in place by the end of 
the
>> >> year. Because of the issues Matt pointed out, I don't want to 
really
>> >> add much more until it's automated.
>> >>
>> >> Well, after I rebuild a bunch of backhauls and turn a new network 
into
>> >> a
>> >> routed one, the backends are next on my 

Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

[Dennis Burgess]

Something you want new or used?  super cheap or not?  

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Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 1:15 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

  I have a need for about ten 2U/4U rackmount servers.All will be 
running Linux, so 4gig RAM, 2ghz or better CPU and ATA drives are 
preferred.   Does anyone one the list have recommendations?

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[WISPA] VPN

[Jeremie Chism]

I have a customer on my network with a netgear VPN router. For some reason now 
the VPN drops about every hour. There is no problem with the Internet, just the 
VPN. The customer is setup as a 1to1 nat. I am thinking it might be a nat issue 
but looking for suggestions. 

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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

[Steve Barnes]

You know I have a faster option.  Buy a USB Ethernet port for a laptop that you 
assign a static and switch back and forth cable wise.  I have a desktop PC that 
actually has 3 Ethernet cards one with a Static for our local network, 1 with a 
static ip for programming UBNT and Tranzeos in bridge mode, and 1 with a 
dynamic ip for cpe's that hand out dhcp.  All we do is switch the cable that 
plugs into the POE. Takes 2 seconds to switch between dhcp and static.

I use NET Profiles for changing the static from one range to another.

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> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On Behalf Of Mike
> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 1:41 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7
> 
> I have always loved the raw beauty of a utility grade batch file.
> 
> It would be easy for anyone to use notepad to change the IP addresses and
> use your batch idea.  10 options from a batch menu; bravo!
> 
> Friendly Regards,
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 12:27 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7
> 
> http://iam8up.com/ipconfiger/
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Mike  wrote:
> > I run into the same thing Josh.  What does your batch look like?
> >
> > 
> >
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> > On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:11 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7
> >
> >
> >
> > Keep in mind I have one to share if you want.
> >
> > On Aug 20, 2010 10:50 PM, "Mike"  wrote:
> >
> > Try using a batch file and NETSH commands:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/prod
> docs/en-
> us/netsh_dhcp_example.mspx?mfr=true
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Gilchrist
> >
> > Disruptive Technologist
> >
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> >
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> >
> > Mike's Weekly Column
> >
> > 239.770.6203
> >
> > m...@aweiowa.com
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> > On Behalf Of RickG
> > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:23 PM
> >
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7
> >
> >
> >
> > I did that once with a bunch or tranzeos. Works good. of course,
> > having a switch up on a tower isnt practical. I'm sure there must be a
> > registry
> entry
> > for the dhcp timeout on windoze somewhere?
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 5:37 PM, John Valenti  wrote:
> >
> > Justin,
> > I would think ...
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Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

[Brad Belton]

Agreed.  We've run HP and Dell servers for years and have been happy, but we
had no idea what we were missing once we virtualized everything.  

 

We purchased a Dell blade chassis and three blade servers to start with.
Loaded VMware and have been blown away with the performance, availability,
power savings and features.  A "server" to us now amounts to just a file
within VMware that we can copy, backup or move wherever we please with a
simple cut & paste.  If VMware "sees" a server go down or a host within your
cluster fail it will automatically fire up the affected servers on a
different host.  Really cool stuff.

 

The chassis will hold 16 blades, but just the three blades we have now are
probably 100x the power of the two 42U cabinets stuffed with servers they
replaced!

 

Best,

 

 

Brad

 

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Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:54 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

 

On 24 August 2010 02:15, Matt Larsen - Lists  wrote:

 I have a need for about ten 2U/4U rackmount servers.All will be
running Linux, so 4gig RAM, 2ghz or better CPU and ATA drives are
preferred.   Does anyone one the list have recommendations?


Buy a new Dell (or factory refurb) and virtualize everything.




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Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

[Jeremy Parr]

On 24 August 2010 02:15, Matt Larsen - Lists  wrote:

>  I have a need for about ten 2U/4U rackmount servers.All will be
> running Linux, so 4gig RAM, 2ghz or better CPU and ATA drives are
> preferred.   Does anyone one the list have recommendations?
>

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Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

[Gino Villarini]

Surplus cComputers has some nice refurb stuff:

http://www.surpluscomputers.com/featured-hardware/cg-69/servers.html

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Subject: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

  I have a need for about ten 2U/4U rackmount servers.All will be 
running Linux, so 4gig RAM, 2ghz or better CPU and ATA drives are 
preferred.   Does anyone one the list have recommendations?

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Re: [WISPA] strange firewall connection

[RickG]

Ah, yes, that makes sense. Thanks!

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

>  The MAC address it would report would be your upstream router.
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> On 8/23/2010 1:18 AM, RickG wrote:
>
> So the bastards get away with it :(
> If go the mac from the connection. It was to a Juniper Networks unit. Too
> bad there is not a mac/owner cross reference list.
> Oh well, back to the gridnstone.
>
>
> -
>
> From: ab...@blacklotus.net [mailto:ab...@blacklotus.net]
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 1:13 AM
> To: Rick Gunderson
> Subject: Re: [#78277] abuse
>
>  Our network does not allow outbound UDP from that subnet (208.64.123.0/24).
> I
>
> can assure you the traffic you're seeing is not originating from our
> AS/network.
>
>  The traffic is most certainly spoofed and designed to cause your DNS
> systems to
>
> DDoS my network. (See DNS reflection/amplification attack).
>
>
>
> Basically someone in control of a large botnet is sending DNS queries to
>
> various networks with spoofed source address fields to cause response
> traffic to
>
> target our network.
>
>
>
> I can assure you there is no outbound DNS queries from that address, our
>
> network is blocking UDP ingress/egress from that range also.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Nick Olsen wrote:
>
>> Sure, A friend of mine wrote it, So YMMV. 2 files, Pretty simple.
>>
>> http://whois.141networks.com/scripts.zip
>>
>>
>> Nick Olsen
>> Network Operations
>> (321) 205-1100 x106
>>
>>
>>
>>  --
>> *From*: "Ralph" 
>> *Sent*: Sunday, August 22, 2010 10:51 PM
>>
>> *To*: "WISPA General List" 
>> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] strange firewall connection
>>
>>
>>  Works nicely.
>>
>> Care to share the script?
>>
>>
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>> Brightlan.net
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Nick Olsen
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 22, 2010 10:37 PM
>> *To:* WISPA General List
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] strange firewall connection
>>
>>
>>
>> Yup, I run mine on a linux box. By default, linux whois hits Arin, Or
>> RIPE..etc. Then if the org has a private whois server it will hit it. Where
>> everything else just hits arin and thats it. Notice how it hits both below.
>>
>> Running 'whois '208.64.123.177''...
>>
>> [Querying whois.arin.net]
>> [Redirected to rwhois.blacklotus.net:4321]
>> [Querying rwhois.blacklotus.net]
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a php script that makes this web-accessible. Anyone that wants to
>> use it is free to http://whois.141networks.com. However, That is hosted
>> from my personal residence so be gentle. :D
>>
>> //me might move it to the colo here soon though..
>>
>> Nick Olsen
>> Network Operations
>> (321) 205-1100 x106
>>
>>
>>  --
>>
>> *From*: "RickG" 
>> *Sent*: Sunday, August 22, 2010 10:28 PM
>> *To*: n...@brevardwireless.com, "WISPA General List" 
>> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] strange firewall connection
>>
>> *interesting. Your results a bit different. who.is says:*
>>
>>
>>
>> # Query terms are ambiguous.  The query is assumed to be:
>> # "n + *208.64.123.177*"
>> #
>> # Use "?" to get help.
>> #
>>
>> #
>> # The following results may also be obtained via:
>> #
>> http://whois.arin.net/rest/nets;q=208.64.123.177?showDetails=true&showARIN=false
>>
>> #
>>
>> NetRange:   208.64.120.0 - 208.64.127.255
>> CIDR:   208.64.120.0/21
>> OriginAS:   AS32421
>> NetName:NET-208-64-120-0-1
>> NetHandle:  NET-208-64-120-0-1
>> Parent: NET-208-0-0-0-0
>> NetType:Direct Allocation
>> NameServer: NS1.ENTERPRISE.BLACKLOTUS.NET
>> NameServer: NS2.ENTERPRISE.BLACKLOTUS.NET
>> RegDate:2005-12-22
>> Updated:2009-11-11
>> Ref:http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-208-64-120-0-1
>>
>> OrgName:Black Lotus Communications
>> OrgId:  BLC-92
>> Address:3419 Virginia Beach Blvd. #D5
>> City:   Virginia Beach
>> StateProv:  VA
>> PostalCode: 23452
>> Country:US
>> RegDate:2004-04-22
>> Updated:2009-02-12
>> Comment:Please route any abuse concerns to
>> Ref:http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/BLC-92
>>
>> ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.blacklotus.net:4321
>>
>> OrgAbuseHandle: NOC1554-ARIN
>> OrgAbuseName:   Network Operations Center
>> OrgAbusePhone:  +1-314-323-3401
>> OrgAbuseEmail:
>> OrgAbuseRef:http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC1554-ARIN
>>
>> OrgTechHandle: NOC1554-ARIN
>> OrgTechName:   Network Operations Center
>> OrgTechPhone:  +1-314-323-3401
>> OrgTechEmail:
>> OrgTechRef:http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC1554-ARIN
>>
>> OrgNOCHandle: NOC1554-ARIN
>> OrgNOCName:   Network Operations Center
>> OrgNOCPhone:  +1-314-323-3401
>> OrgNOCEmail:
>> OrgNOCRef:http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC1554-ARIN
>>
>>