Re: [WISPA] net neutrality... Two articles...
I cant speak for WISPA's official opinon but I am still very much against NetNeutrality, as all it really is is an excuse for more regulation and less competion, and protection for content providers, and more liablilty for Access providers. And quite honestly, I am still appauled that the FCC bundled WISPs in with Fixed Wireline carriers, without any special consideration. That just supports why we should not want this group of FCC leaders to define and control our fate via more regulation. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: MDK To: WISPA General List Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 1:08 AM Subject: [WISPA] net neutrality... Two articles... http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/147121-house-leadership-questions-why-industry-isnt-fighting-in-net-regs?tmpl=componentprint=1page= Excerpt: House GOP Whip Kevin McCarthy (Calif.) convened a meeting of top communications companies on Wednesday morning, where he questioned why they are not doing more to help Republicans in the fight against net-neutrality rules. A spokeswoman for McCarthy confirmed the meeting. http://biggovernment.com/nrbrown/2011/03/04/republican-reactive-neutrality/print/ Excerpt: The facts are that Net Neutrality is not about keeping all the bits equal. Net Neutrality is about regulatory creep. It's about controlling the infrastructure so that the message can be controlled. It's about things like Internet Sidewalks [5], and Free Press' founder Robert McChesneys desire to control information, have a government takeover of infrastructure, and control what is available to the people. We know this when he stated, You will never, ever, in any circumstance, win any struggle at any time. That being said, we have a long way to go. At the moment, the battle over network neutrality is not to completely eliminate the telephone and cable companies. We are not at that point yet. But the ultimate goal is to get rid of the media capitalists in the phone and cable companies and to divest them from control. I asked once... about a year ago. What side is WISPA on? I still can't tell. Are they on the no regulation is needed, get lost! bandwagon, or are they on the We welcome the chance to have input on your future plans bandwagon? The two roads diverged a while back. Which is WISPA on? ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] net neutrality... Two articles...
And now is the time to jump back in on the fight because the republicans have gained a lot of headway towards reversing the FCC's actions. And they are likely going to win, with the support of the industry behind them. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: MDK To: WISPA General List Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 1:08 AM Subject: [WISPA] net neutrality... Two articles... http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/147121-house-leadership-questions-why-industry-isnt-fighting-in-net-regs?tmpl=componentprint=1page= Excerpt: House GOP Whip Kevin McCarthy (Calif.) convened a meeting of top communications companies on Wednesday morning, where he questioned why they are not doing more to help Republicans in the fight against net-neutrality rules. A spokeswoman for McCarthy confirmed the meeting. http://biggovernment.com/nrbrown/2011/03/04/republican-reactive-neutrality/print/ Excerpt: The facts are that Net Neutrality is not about keeping all the bits equal. Net Neutrality is about regulatory creep. It's about controlling the infrastructure so that the message can be controlled. It's about things like Internet Sidewalks [5], and Free Press' founder Robert McChesneys desire to control information, have a government takeover of infrastructure, and control what is available to the people. We know this when he stated, You will never, ever, in any circumstance, win any struggle at any time. That being said, we have a long way to go. At the moment, the battle over network neutrality is not to completely eliminate the telephone and cable companies. We are not at that point yet. But the ultimate goal is to get rid of the media capitalists in the phone and cable companies and to divest them from control. I asked once... about a year ago. What side is WISPA on? I still can't tell. Are they on the no regulation is needed, get lost! bandwagon, or are they on the We welcome the chance to have input on your future plans bandwagon? The two roads diverged a while back. Which is WISPA on? ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OSPF Route Cost Calculations
The problem is I need to know if there is a tool or set of guidelines to determine the proper path cost and priorities in an OSPF network so that when a link goes down the next best route is chosen. On 3/4/2011 8:01 PM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote: This is too general of a question to answer. What exactly was the problem you encountered? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] net neutrality... Two articles...
Mark, Why don't you join WISPA and be part of the process instead of taking pot shots from the hinterlands. It is time you stepped up to be counted. For the record, I am personally totally against Network Neutrality; at least the versions that have been presented thus far. Forcing unmanaged network content on broadband infrastructure operators will have dire consequences in the operation of the Internet and the businesses that provide it. Rick From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 1:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] net neutrality... Two articles... http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/147121-house-leadership- questions-why-industry-isnt-fighting-in-net-regs?tmpl=component http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/147121-house-leadership -questions-why-industry-isnt-fighting-in-net-regs?tmpl=componentprint=1pag e= print=1page= Excerpt: House GOP Whip Kevin McCarthy (Calif.) convened a meeting of top communications companies on Wednesday morning, where he questioned why they are not doing more to help Republicans in the fight against net-neutrality rules. A spokeswoman for McCarthy confirmed the meeting. http://biggovernment.com/nrbrown/2011/03/04/republican-reactive-neutrality/p rint/ Excerpt: The facts are that Net Neutrality is not about keeping all the bits equal. Net Neutrality is about regulatory creep. It's about controlling the infrastructure so that the message can be controlled. It's about things like http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon2007-10-18at.html Internet Sidewalks [5], and Free Press' founder Robert McChesneys desire to control information, have a government takeover of infrastructure, and control what is available to the people. We know this when he stated, You will never, ever, in any circumstance, win any struggle at any time. That being said, we have a long way to go. At the moment, the battle over network neutrality is not to completely eliminate the telephone and cable companies. We are not at that point yet. But the ultimate goal is to get rid of the media capitalists in the phone and cable companies and to divest them from control. I asked once... about a year ago. What side is WISPA on? I still can't tell. Are they on the no regulation is needed, get lost! bandwagon, or are they on the We welcome the chance to have input on your future plans bandwagon? The two roads diverged a while back. Which is WISPA on? ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OSPF Route Cost Calculations
Basically, what is the fastest link in your network? Let's say you have a GigE link. You'll set that cost to 1. Let's say you have a backup link that is a licensed 18GHz link that runs 350 Mbps. You would make that cost a 3. Then, you have a half-duplex Ubiquiti link. Normally you would count it as 100 Mbps but since it's half duplex, you might want to divied it by two. So, instead of setting it to 10, you'd set it to 20. If you have equal cost link but want one favored over the other, adjust the priority. Then, make sure you are using the correct type 1/type 2 calculations for your network typology. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OSPF Route Cost Calculations
Can someone explain, in plain English, the difference between type 1 and type 2 calculations? Mikortik only explains it is white box vs something else. Cisco says A type 1 route has a metric that is the sum of the internal OSPF cost and the external redistributed cost. A type 2 route has a metric equal only to the redistributed cost. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support On 3/5/11 10:49 AM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: Basically, what is the fastest link in your network? Let's say you have a GigE link. You'll set that cost to 1. Let's say you have a backup link that is a licensed 18GHz link that runs 350 Mbps. You would make that cost a 3. Then, you have a half-duplex Ubiquiti link. Normally you would count it as 100 Mbps but since it's half duplex, you might want to divied it by two. So, instead of setting it to 10, you'd set it to 20. If you have equal cost link but want one favored over the other, adjust the priority. Then, make sure you are using the correct type 1/type 2 calculations for your network typology. -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OSPF Route Cost Calculations
On Sat, 2011-03-05 at 10:56 -0500, Justin Wilson wrote: Can someone explain, in plain English, the difference between type 1 and type 2 calculations? Mikortik only explains it is white box vs something else. Cisco says A type 1 route has a metric that is the sum of the internal OSPF cost and the external redistributed cost. A type 2 route has a metric equal only to the redistributed cost. In broad strokes, the cost between any two points on an OSPF network is the sum of the interface costs between the two routers in question following a particular path (there could be more than one). As suggested before, a white board is good for this. Start with, say 10, for every interface. Then start adding up the costs for paths that are important to you. If a path is being chosen that you don't want, start incrementing the cost on both sides of the link until the correct path has a lower cost. If your external routes are type 1, a router will take that cost into account when determining which route is better (if there is more than one learned). If it's type 2, it will only use the metric assigned to it when it's injected/learned by into OSPF. A MikroTik example regarding default routes (though any external route should do the same)... ---Type-2--- Router A: /router ospf instance set default distribute-default=if-installed-as-type-2 set default metric-default=10 Router B: /router ospf instance set default distribute-default=if-installed-as-type-2 set default metric-default=20 ---Type-1--- Router A: /router ospf instance set default distribute-default=if-installed-as-type-1 set default metric-default=10 Router B: /router ospf instance set default distribute-default=if-installed-as-type-1 set default metric-default=10 In the Type-2 case, router X will always choose router A's default route, if it's being injected. In the Type-1 case, router X will choose the default route that has a lower OSPF path cost. It's Saturday morning and I didn't double check any books, so please be gentle if I missed some subtle detail. :-) -Kristian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Wireless Infrastructure Survey
I am working with several vendors to create programs to enhance the online tools available for operators. These vendors have prompted me to conduct the following survey so they can better understand the industry and operator needs. Please go to this Survey Monkey Link and complete the survey. I would like to wrap this up on Wednesday, March 9th. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/F7LZSN9 Attend http://fispawispaspring2011.eventbrite.com/ the Orlando Service Provider Summit March 23-25 Respectfully, Rick Harnish Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Orlando Early Discount Extension Expires Sunday
Just a reminder, I extended the Early Discount period for three days on Thursday evening. This extension period ends on Sunday at midnight Pacific. The FISPA/WISPA Service Provider Summit has had some great additions this week. I really want to drive more WISP attendance this week and next. I know a lot of you wait until the last minute to commit to these things. Well the time has come, it is time to make your plans. * Motorola signed up to be a Diamond Sponsor today (hints are that they will be dropping some news that WISPs may be very interested in as well as some doorprizes that will highlight this news) * Linux Magic has some big news on the future of Email and signed on as a Gold Sponsor * Jack Unger is giving a 3 hour Advanced Wireless Magic Workshop on Wednesday * Ipifony is sponsoring a trivia night at Wednesday's Meet and Greet * Donny Smith of Jaguar Communications confirmed his Keynote * All vendor speaking spots, tables and booths are sold out! * I confirmed great menus for Happy Hours, 2 Lunches and Breakfast. You won't go away hungry! * Andrew MacRae from the NTIA confirmed to Demo the National Broadband Map * Carlson Wireless and Adaptrum have received their temporary licenses to conduct a LIVE TV Whitepace Demo. * Dustin Jurman, Corey Potts and Brian Worthen will all be great keynotes and well worth the trip to come listen too. * Don't forget the always valuable ISP-CEO Roundtable. 4-5 hours of intense networking and discussion with other ISP/WISPs just like yourself. Learn what works, new ideas and what doesn't work. I want to thank our premium sponsors who really step up and make an event like this happen. * Motorola * Exalt * Dish Network * Streakwave * CTI * Ubiquiti * Rini Coran PC * Linux Magic * Surplus Wireless Gear * Redline * Ipifony * And all of the other 31 exhibitors! There are so many people to thank; I could go on and on. Let's show our support and get more WISPs down to Orlando! I will turn on the Early Registration Price from now until Sunday. That is a savings of $40 per attendee. You all gotta eat, come to Orlando and do it! Who knows, you may win a great door prize like so many have done in the past. My goal for next week is to make the door prize list much longer! Attend http://fispawispaspring2011.eventbrite.com/ the Orlando Service Provider Summit March 23-25 Respectfully, Rick Harnish Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WUG] Orlando Early Discount Extension Expires Sunday
Why is this far from CTIA? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: users-boun...@wug.cc [mailto:users-boun...@wug.cc] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 1:15 PM To: memb...@wispa.org; 'WISPA General List'; us...@wug.cc Subject: [WUG] Orlando Early Discount Extension Expires Sunday Just a reminder, I extended the Early Discount period for three days on Thursday evening. This extension period ends on Sunday at midnight Pacific. The FISPA/WISPA Service Provider Summit has had some great additions this week. I really want to drive more WISP attendance this week and next. I know a lot of you wait until the last minute to commit to these things. Well the time has come, it is time to make your plans. * Motorola signed up to be a Diamond Sponsor today (hints are that they will be dropping some news that WISPs may be very interested in as well as some doorprizes that will highlight this news) * Linux Magic has some big news on the future of Email and signed on as a Gold Sponsor * Jack Unger is giving a 3 hour Advanced Wireless Magic Workshop on Wednesday * Ipifony is sponsoring a trivia night at Wednesday's Meet and Greet * Donny Smith of Jaguar Communications confirmed his Keynote * All vendor speaking spots, tables and booths are sold out! * I confirmed great menus for Happy Hours, 2 Lunches and Breakfast. You won't go away hungry! * Andrew MacRae from the NTIA confirmed to Demo the National Broadband Map * Carlson Wireless and Adaptrum have received their temporary licenses to conduct a LIVE TV Whitepace Demo. * Dustin Jurman, Corey Potts and Brian Worthen will all be great keynotes and well worth the trip to come listen too. * Don't forget the always valuable ISP-CEO Roundtable. 4-5 hours of intense networking and discussion with other ISP/WISPs just like yourself. Learn what works, new ideas and what doesn't work. I want to thank our premium sponsors who really step up and make an event like this happen. * Motorola * Exalt * Dish Network * Streakwave * CTI * Ubiquiti * Rini Coran PC * Linux Magic * Surplus Wireless Gear * Redline * Ipifony * And all of the other 31 exhibitors! There are so many people to thank; I could go on and on. Let's show our support and get more WISPs down to Orlando! I will turn on the Early Registration Price from now until Sunday. That is a savings of $40 per attendee. You all gotta eat, come to Orlando and do it! Who knows, you may win a great door prize like so many have done in the past. My goal for next week is to make the door prize list much longer! Attend the Orlando Service Provider Summit March 23-25 http://fispawispaspring2011.eventbrite.com/ Respectfully, Rick Harnish Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OSPF Route Cost Calculations
What is the largest value you can put in for an OSPF cost? I'd almost recommend multiplying all of those numbers by 10 so you can do the fine level tweaking between the links. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 3/5/2011 9:49 AM, can...@believewireless.net wrote: Basically, what is the fastest link in your network? Let's say you have a GigE link. You'll set that cost to 1. Let's say you have a backup link that is a licensed 18GHz link that runs 350 Mbps. You would make that cost a 3. Then, you have a half-duplex Ubiquiti link. Normally you would count it as 100 Mbps but since it's half duplex, you might want to divied it by two. So, instead of setting it to 10, you'd set it to 20. If you have equal cost link but want one favored over the other, adjust the priority. Then, make sure you are using the correct type 1/type 2 calculations for your network typology. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OSPF Route Cost Calculations
On 03/05/2011 05:23 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: What is the largest value you can put in for an OSPF cost? I'd almost recommend multiplying all of those numbers by 10 so you can do the fine level tweaking between the links. See http://www.workrobot.com/sysadmin/routing/ospf_costs.html for a brief discussion of auto-costing in Cisco (and some other devices). It also gives a brief discussion of type1 vs type2 announcements. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * *NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Calea Compliance
Would I cover myself for calea by having a mikrotik router on the shelf, set up as a bridge, with the calea module installed. Then if I get subpoenaed for a tap, I just run out to the appropriate tower and put it on the ethernet interface of whichever AP the subscriber is on? Thanks, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Calea Compliance
Depends who you ask. Some might say the customer could notice a change in network and hence non compliant. On Mar 5, 2011 10:43 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: Would I cover myself for calea by having a mikrotik router on the shelf, set up as a bridge, with the calea module installed. Then if I get subpoenaed for a tap, I just run out to the appropriate tower and put it on the ethernet interface of whichever AP the subscriber is on? Thanks, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Calea Compliance
Ok, but the FBI wouldn't know I stuck the hardware there at the last minute. And the tower glitches off whenever I do a firmware upgrade anyway. The customer wouldn't know the difference. On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Depends who you ask. Some might say the customer could notice a change in network and hence non compliant. On Mar 5, 2011 10:43 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: Would I cover myself for calea by having a mikrotik router on the shelf, set up as a bridge, with the calea module installed. Then if I get subpoenaed for a tap, I just run out to the appropriate tower and put it on the ethernet interface of whichever AP the subscriber is on? Thanks, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] net neutrality... Two articles...
Rick, I didn't take any potshots at anyone. I linked a couple of short blurbs on the net.. and asked... What's WISPA's official stand or statement? Is there one? ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ From: Rick Harnish Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 7:49 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] net neutrality... Two articles... Mark, Why don't you join WISPA and be part of the process instead of taking pot shots from the hinterlands. It is time you stepped up to be counted. For the record, I am personally totally against Network Neutrality; at least the versions that have been presented thus far. Forcing unmanaged network content on broadband infrastructure operators will have dire consequences in the operation of the Internet and the businesses that provide it. Rick From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 1:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] net neutrality... Two articles... http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/147121-house-leadership-questions-why-industry-isnt-fighting-in-net-regs?tmpl=componentprint=1page= Excerpt: House GOP Whip Kevin McCarthy (Calif.) convened a meeting of top communications companies on Wednesday morning, where he questioned why they are not doing more to help Republicans in the fight against net-neutrality rules. A spokeswoman for McCarthy confirmed the meeting. http://biggovernment.com/nrbrown/2011/03/04/republican-reactive-neutrality/print/ Excerpt: The facts are that Net Neutrality is not about keeping all the bits equal. Net Neutrality is about regulatory creep. It's about controlling the infrastructure so that the message can be controlled. It's about things like Internet Sidewalks [5], and Free Press' founder Robert McChesneys desire to control information, have a government takeover of infrastructure, and control what is available to the people. We know this when he stated, You will never, ever, in any circumstance, win any struggle at any time. That being said, we have a long way to go. At the moment, the battle over network neutrality is not to completely eliminate the telephone and cable companies. We are not at that point yet. But the ultimate goal is to get rid of the media capitalists in the phone and cable companies and to divest them from control. I asked once... about a year ago. What side is WISPA on? I still can't tell. Are they on the no regulation is needed, get lost! bandwagon, or are they on the We welcome the chance to have input on your future plans bandwagon? The two roads diverged a while back. Which is WISPA on? ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
