Re: [WISPA] Cat5E

2011-04-10 Thread Bob Moldashel
There are a handful of listings on E-Bay.  Just do a search for aerial cat5.

http://cgi.ebay.com/250-CAT-5E-OUTDOOR-AERIAL-SELF-SUPPORTING-W-MESSENGER-/360248674569?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e07e8909



On 4/10/2011 5:05 PM, Blair Davis wrote:
> Looking for an aerial, shielded, Cat5E with steel messenger wire
> suitable for a 250ft span.
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[WISPA] Spiceworks

2011-04-10 Thread Justin Wilson
Anyone using spiceworks at their ticket software?  Would appreciate some
insight into it.

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Re: [WISPA] Cat5E

2011-04-10 Thread Jason Bailey
Blair,for your viewing pleasure.
 

http://www.americantechsupply.com/outdoorcat5ewithmessenger.htm

--- On Sun, 4/10/11, Blair Davis  wrote:


From: Blair Davis 
Subject: [WISPA] Cat5E
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Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011, 5:05 PM


Looking for an aerial, shielded, Cat5E with steel messenger wire 
suitable for a 250ft span.

Anybody got or seen such a thing?  Price and availability?





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[WISPA] Cat5E

2011-04-10 Thread Blair Davis
Looking for an aerial, shielded, Cat5E with steel messenger wire 
suitable for a 250ft span.

Anybody got or seen such a thing?  Price and availability?





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Re: [WISPA] RED queues out, PCQ queues in - anyone else doing this?

2011-04-10 Thread Rubens Kuhl
> One of the best examples is the impact of half duplex radios, or adaptive
> speed (modulation) radios, on bandwdith management systems that treat

Ideally, adaptive modulation radios should have QoS policies built-in.
That is true for Ceragon IP-MAX^2 radios that are aware to EXP MPLS
markings, but besides that expection, I don't know radios that do it.

> for us, for 10 years. But as our network became more congested, half duplex
> did show to be  a challenge for traffic management. It came to a point where
> Full Duplex licensed links was the only answer, and helped the most. And
> then our traffic management became more reliable as a result. My point is,
> its not only the method of traffic management that matters, but also the
> characteristics of the network.
> Queuing and QOS will always help make the best of one's network, but it wont
> fully make up for deficiencies in a physical network.

For a growing-up network, I think two half-duplex could be used for
better performance. For instance, two OSPF links with unequal inverted
costs, so each one will normally have unidiretional traffic, fall-back
to bidirectional if one of the links fail.


Rubens



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Re: [WISPA] RED queues out, PCQ queues in - anyone else doing this?

2011-04-10 Thread Greg Ihnen
Rubens,

Thanks for the reply!

I'm using a 5GHz AirMax back haul (PtMP) to two 2.4GHz APs (All UBNT 
gear). The 5GHz back haul has never broken a sweat. Our "upstream" is a 1M/256K 
high latency connection so there just isn't that much data to move.

You got me thinking about the ack packets. Besides possibly a queue 
type, what do you think about prioritizing them high?

Thanks!
Greg

On Apr 7, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Rubens Kuhl wrote:

>> I was running Butch's script with PCQ queues but I started wondering about 
>> "buffer bloat" (yeah, I follow NANOG too) on the router. I thought about 
>> trying RED on the outbound queue since if packets are dropped and resent on 
>> our wireless network it's no biggie. Our wireless network is way overkill as 
>> far as our bandwidth needs. But I didn't want dropped packets on our inbound 
>> side because I didn't want to waste any of our precious satellite bandwidth. 
>> So I kept PCQ queues there.
> 
> Before jumping into the conclusion that your network is overkill for
> your usage, you should first graph it in RX+TX pps if it's Wi-Fi, or
> RX pps and TX pps otherwise. Ideally you should also graph airtime %
> as well, but that's not a MIB-II standard item... AirControl might do
> it with UBNT gear.
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>> It seems like it made things work better but I never know for sure because 
>> our satellite bandwidth is oversold and what we get at any given moment is 
>> effected by what the other users who are on this same bandwidth are doing.
>> 
>> Does anyone else mix queue types like that? Is this a dumb idea?
> 
> I think it's not dumb, but the cause/effect relations on TCP make
> choosing which queue type to use in each direction a more complex
> decision than that. Trying more combinations might be good.
> 
> One thing I would consider doing is using different queue types on
> each direction depending on packet size. TCP packets going outbound
> but have low size are just ACKs of incoming TCP data, and the other
> way around. non-TCP packets would also have a different QoS strategy
> as it's usually non-responsive to packet loss or delay variations.
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