Re: [WISPA] just installed a Huawei...
I've heard that Huawei is just reverse engineered US gear. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/25/2011 11:50 PM, Rogelio wrote: Not sure if it's any interest of this group, but I just installed a Huawei CX600 router this last week. It's like Cisco quality (garbage!) for the price that Cisco should be (low!). The commands are very similar (e.g. switchport - portswitch, no shut - undo shut, etc), and you configure it almost identical to what you'd expect on a Cisco. The worst part about the Huawei is probably the documentation. It's scattered all over the place, so if you want something simple (like telnet access), it's in a completely different PDF than if you want, say, VLAN configuration commands. Finding it all is a huge scavenger hunt. But hey...for like a 1/4 of the price or whatever (so I've heard), I'd say it's worth it. :b WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Vivato website is back up
Too bad they are just rehashing Old products, both units on website are b/g only. No N? Wtf Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jul 26, 2011, at 12:37 AM, Rogelio scubac...@gmail.com wrote: A friend just sent me the URL and said that they've put up a real looking page now http://www.vivato.com I don't know enough about their gear to know if these are new products or not. I'm curious which chipset they use. -- Also on LinkedIn? Feel free to connect if you too are an open networker: scubac...@gmail.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] just installed a Huawei...
That's how they started out...even used the same model numbers initially. Cisco proved it because known IOS bugs were present in the Huawei OS! The settlement precluded Huawei from marketing in the US for some period of time...not sure if/when that ends. More recently, they licensed 3COMs router OS, so they should be legit. For those who care, they are heavily subsidized by the Chinese government. Regards, Jeff ImageStream Sales Manager 800-813-5123 x106 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] just installed a Huawei... I've heard that Huawei is just reverse engineered US gear. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/25/2011 11:50 PM, Rogelio wrote: Not sure if it's any interest of this group, but I just installed a Huawei CX600 router this last week. It's like Cisco quality (garbage!) for the price that Cisco should be (low!). The commands are very similar (e.g. switchport - portswitch, no shut - undo shut, etc), and you configure it almost identical to what you'd expect on a Cisco. The worst part about the Huawei is probably the documentation. It's scattered all over the place, so if you want something simple (like telnet access), it's in a completely different PDF than if you want, say, VLAN configuration commands. Finding it all is a huge scavenger hunt. But hey...for like a 1/4 of the price or whatever (so I've heard), I'd say it's worth it. :b WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3789 - Release Date: 07/26/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Selling network
We have decided to sell a portion of our network because our business has recently gone in a different direction and it is too far away for us to service any longer. It is roughly 15x22 square miles in size and is located mostly in Preble County Ohio and the surrounding areas. It consists of 5 tower sites with all Ubiquiti equipment. If any one is interested please send me a direct email at lcummi...@datacomspecialists.com or just give me a call. Thanks Liam Cummings CEO Datacom Specialists Office : 513-922-0444 x111 www.datacomspecialists.com http://www.datacomspecialists.com/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
I've got a short backhaul (.1 mile) PtMP and it definitely works better with AirMax on. I forget if I'm using the no-ack feature. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Rubens Kuhl wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Ok, so WDS fixed the latency. At 20mhz channel and 100%ccq what should our actual throughput be. We are only seeing 20mbps max. Airmax should be used on P2P only for high-distance (~50km or more) links. Keep WDS on but turn Airmax off. Throughput depends on distance, but for a 5km link with 20 MHz channel you should get 50 Mbps using large packets. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
Better not be. It makes the link perform like crap. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a short backhaul (.1 mile) PtMP and it definitely works better with AirMax on. I forget if I'm using the no-ack feature. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Rubens Kuhl wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Ok, so WDS fixed the latency. At 20mhz channel and 100%ccq what should our actual throughput be. We are only seeing 20mbps max. Airmax should be used on P2P only for high-distance (~50km or more) links. Keep WDS on but turn Airmax off. Throughput depends on distance, but for a 5km link with 20 MHz channel you should get 50 Mbps using large packets. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed, just tell me to check the archives ... Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each time. Thanks, Adam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
You are correct, I have it off. I just checked. Greg On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Better not be. It makes the link perform like crap. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a short backhaul (.1 mile) PtMP and it definitely works better with AirMax on. I forget if I'm using the no-ack feature. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Rubens Kuhl wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Ok, so WDS fixed the latency. At 20mhz channel and 100%ccq what should our actual throughput be. We are only seeing 20mbps max. Airmax should be used on P2P only for high-distance (~50km or more) links. Keep WDS on but turn Airmax off. Throughput depends on distance, but for a 5km link with 20 MHz channel you should get 50 Mbps using large packets. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
I hate to counter.. All of my links are with Airmax on.. including short ones, and they perform better with Airmax than without. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 7/26/2011 11:22 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote: You are correct, I have it off. I just checked. Greg On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Better not be. It makes the link perform like crap. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com mailto:os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a short backhaul (.1 mile) PtMP and it definitely works better with AirMax on. I forget if I'm using the no-ack feature. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Rubens Kuhl wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com mailto:pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Ok, so WDS fixed the latency. At 20mhz channel and 100%ccq what should our actual throughput be. We are only seeing 20mbps max. Airmax should be used on P2P only for high-distance (~50km or more) links. Keep WDS on but turn Airmax off. Throughput depends on distance, but for a 5km link with 20 MHz channel you should get 50 Mbps using large packets. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
I am referring to the no-ack feature of AirMax. I, too, have Airmax on all my links. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.netwrote: I hate to counter.. All of my links are with Airmax on.. including short ones, and they perform better with Airmax than without. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 7/26/2011 11:22 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote: You are correct, I have it off. I just checked. Greg On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Better not be. It makes the link perform like crap. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a short backhaul (.1 mile) PtMP and it definitely works better with AirMax on. I forget if I'm using the no-ack feature. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Rubens Kuhl wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Ok, so WDS fixed the latency. At 20mhz channel and 100%ccq what should our actual throughput be. We are only seeing 20mbps max. Airmax should be used on P2P only for high-distance (~50km or more) links. Keep WDS on but turn Airmax off. Throughput depends on distance, but for a 5km link with 20 MHz channel you should get 50 Mbps using large packets. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Linux Virtualization
In my experience, definitely go hardware RAID. My last major email server rebuild I went with software RAID1 after quite a bit of debate. I prefer software raid for a number of reasons and am not alone. http://backdrift.org/hardware-vs-software-raid-in-the-real-world-2 Nice thing is your not tied to any particular raid controller if it dies. CPU cycles are plentiful as well but disk I/O is not. On a modern machine software performs as well hardware from what I have heard and seen. Another nice thing is not having to cram another card and heat source in the box. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Tried again and this time airmax off seems to have done the trick. Is there any suggested settings in Advanced tab for a 2km link? Turning auto-ACK off and setting it to 3km is probably a good thing. Getting different results with the same configuration suggests interference from something outside of your control... Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Linux Virtualization
Putting the debate and justification aside... FWIW.. on our Virtualization boxes we choose to do Raid 10, hardware based with a battery backup cache controller. Makes a significant impact on performance and reliability. as to heat source issue... ah well we put our servers in Colo /DataCenters, as such heat is not such a big concern, however the ability to have have system working with partial hardware failure so that the repairs can be done at a time of our choosing is a dominant design factor Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/26/2011 12:07 PM, Matt wrote: In my experience, definitely go hardware RAID. My last major email server rebuild I went with software RAID1 after quite a bit of debate. I prefer software raid for a number of reasons and am not alone. http://backdrift.org/hardware-vs-software-raid-in-the-real-world-2 Nice thing is your not tied to any particular raid controller if it dies. CPU cycles are plentiful as well but disk I/O is not. On a modern machine software performs as well hardware from what I have heard and seen. Another nice thing is not having to cram another card and heat source in the box. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] just installed a Huawei...
On 26 July 2011 09:46, Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net wrote: That's how they started out...even used the same model numbers initially. Cisco proved it because known IOS bugs were present in the Huawei OS! The settlement precluded Huawei from marketing in the US for some period of time...not sure if/when that ends. More recently, they licensed 3COMs router OS, so they should be legit. For those who care, they are heavily subsidized by the Chinese government. For what its worth, I just installed one of their SANs from the Symantec-Huawei joint venture. The interface isn't quite as polished as the LSI software OEMed by Dell and IBM for their SANs, or the Equalogic interface, but it is functional. Certainly doesn't appear to be stolen or copied from anyone else, it has its own bugs! General build quality and performance are quite nice though, even with the shortcomings of the management interface. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
