Re: [WISPA] Wireless Digest, Vol 43, Issue 24

2011-07-27 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 27 July 2011 04:35, Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe, aajayi...@as-technologies.com
 wrote:

 I have a windows sbs 2008 network. I'm wondering if I can use it to
 restrict access to the internet as well as other resources for users.


Probably yes. You need to purchase a product called WinGate though and
enable IPX tunneling over SMTP on port 1352.



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[WISPA] Voip over fixed wireless ubnt

2011-07-27 Thread Zach Mann
How many are sucessfully doing this for businesses and what details need to
be looked at when making sure phones work ?

A SIP company will no longer partner with me as they have a sour taste from
2 previous wisps that had high latency issues.

-Zach



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[WISPA] 8 line ATA

2011-07-27 Thread Gino Villarini
Looking for a 8 line reliable ATA, any recommendations?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143



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Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

2011-07-27 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
SPA8000

--
Patrick Shoemaker

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 13:49
To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org)
Subject: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

Looking for a 8 line reliable ATA, any recommendations?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143



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Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

2011-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
What Patrick said.

I have one on the shelf if you're interested.  It seems to work just as well
as the SPA2x02.  Dozens of deployed SPA2x02 have been amazing for me.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Patrick Shoemaker 
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com wrote:

 SPA8000

 ** **

 --
 Patrick Shoemaker

 ** **

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2011 13:49
 *To:* motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org)
 *Subject:* [WISPA] 8 line ATA

 ** **

 Looking for a 8 line reliable ATA, any recommendations?

 ** **

 Gino A. Villarini

 g...@aeronetpr.com

 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

 787.273.4143




 
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[WISPA] Ubiquiti antennas for sale

2011-07-27 Thread Martha Huizenga
Title: signature

  
  
Hi All,

We have four NanoBridge M9's that we can't use and can't return. Here's

  a link to the details.

All out of the box, but new. Two were used for indoor trials. All
accessories included.

Retail @ $199 each. Contact me off list if you are interested.

Thanks

  
  
  Martha
  Huizenga
  DC
Access, LLC
  202-546-5898
Friendly,
Local,
  Affordable, Internet!
  Connecting the
  Capitol Hill Community
  Join us on 
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Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

2011-07-27 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
Yep, it's 4 SPA2102s in one box, minus the built-in router.

Same config options and all. If you crack one open you can see it's 4 SPA2102 
ASICs in there. Same limitations and all (one T38 call per pair of lines, etc.).

They are very reliable and easy to configure. Same remote provisioning scheme 
as the rest of the ex-sipura product line.

Wish there was no fan, and wish the power connector had some sort of retaining 
clip and not just a barrel connector.

--
Patrick Shoemaker

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 13:52
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

What Patrick said.

I have one on the shelf if you're interested.  It seems to work just as well as 
the SPA2x02.  Dozens of deployed SPA2x02 have been amazing for me.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Patrick Shoemaker 
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.commailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com 
wrote:
SPA8000

--
Patrick Shoemaker

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 13:49
To: motor...@afmug.commailto:motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List 
(wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org)
Subject: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

Looking for a 8 line reliable ATA, any recommendations?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143




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Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

2011-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
I thought each port could do g729 at the same time?  It's been a while since
I used it.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Patrick Shoemaker 
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com wrote:

 Yep, it’s 4 SPA2102s in one box, minus the built-in router. 

 ** **

 Same config options and all. If you crack one open you can see it’s 4
 SPA2102 ASICs in there. Same limitations and all (one T38 call per pair of
 lines, etc.).

 ** **

 They are very reliable and easy to configure. Same remote provisioning
 scheme as the rest of the ex-sipura product line.

 ** **

 Wish there was no fan, and wish the power connector had some sort of
 retaining clip and not just a barrel connector.

 ** **

 --
 Patrick Shoemaker

 ** **

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2011 13:52
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

 ** **

 What Patrick said.

 I have one on the shelf if you're interested.  It seems to work just as
 well as the SPA2x02.  Dozens of deployed SPA2x02 have been amazing for me.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 

 On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Patrick Shoemaker 
 shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com wrote:

 SPA8000

  

 --
 Patrick Shoemaker

  

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2011 13:49
 *To:* motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org)
 *Subject:* [WISPA] 8 line ATA

  

 Looking for a 8 line reliable ATA, any recommendations?

  

 Gino A. Villarini

 g...@aeronetpr.com

 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

 787.273.4143





 
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Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

2011-07-27 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
Yep it can do 8 simultaneous g.729, but only one T38 fax call per pair of 
lines. Subsequent fax calls will fall back to g711 passthru.

--
Patrick Shoemaker

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 13:58
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

I thought each port could do g729 at the same time?  It's been a while since I 
used it.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Patrick Shoemaker 
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.commailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com 
wrote:
Yep, it's 4 SPA2102s in one box, minus the built-in router.

Same config options and all. If you crack one open you can see it's 4 SPA2102 
ASICs in there. Same limitations and all (one T38 call per pair of lines, etc.).

They are very reliable and easy to configure. Same remote provisioning scheme 
as the rest of the ex-sipura product line.

Wish there was no fan, and wish the power connector had some sort of retaining 
clip and not just a barrel connector.

--
Patrick Shoemaker

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 13:52
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

What Patrick said.

I have one on the shelf if you're interested.  It seems to work just as well as 
the SPA2x02.  Dozens of deployed SPA2x02 have been amazing for me.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Patrick Shoemaker 
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.commailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com 
wrote:
SPA8000

--
Patrick Shoemaker

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 13:49
To: motor...@afmug.commailto:motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List 
(wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org)
Subject: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

Looking for a 8 line reliable ATA, any recommendations?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143




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Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

2011-07-27 Thread Jeremy Parr
The cisco small business (read: linksys) ones aren't too bad. There
is much better stuff out there, like audiocodes, but the price
increase is dramatic.

On 7/27/11, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
 Looking for a 8 line reliable ATA, any recommendations?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143


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Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

2011-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
The 2102 can only do one 729 and only on the first port, there is no DSP for
it on the second port.  Never touched t38.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Patrick Shoemaker 
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com wrote:

 Yep it can do 8 simultaneous g.729, but only one T38 fax call per pair of
 lines. Subsequent fax calls will fall back to g711 passthru.

 ** **

 --
 Patrick Shoemaker

 ** **

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2011 13:58

 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

 ** **

 I thought each port could do g729 at the same time?  It's been a while
 since I used it.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 

 On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Patrick Shoemaker 
 shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com wrote:

 Yep, it’s 4 SPA2102s in one box, minus the built-in router. 

  

 Same config options and all. If you crack one open you can see it’s 4
 SPA2102 ASICs in there. Same limitations and all (one T38 call per pair of
 lines, etc.).

  

 They are very reliable and easy to configure. Same remote provisioning
 scheme as the rest of the ex-sipura product line.

  

 Wish there was no fan, and wish the power connector had some sort of
 retaining clip and not just a barrel connector.

  

 --
 Patrick Shoemaker

  

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2011 13:52
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

  

 What Patrick said.

 I have one on the shelf if you're interested.  It seems to work just as
 well as the SPA2x02.  Dozens of deployed SPA2x02 have been amazing for me.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Patrick Shoemaker 
 shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com wrote:

 SPA8000

  

 --
 Patrick Shoemaker

  

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2011 13:49
 *To:* motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org)
 *Subject:* [WISPA] 8 line ATA

  

 Looking for a 8 line reliable ATA, any recommendations?

  

 Gino A. Villarini

 g...@aeronetpr.com

 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

 787.273.4143





 
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Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

2011-07-27 Thread Gino Villarini
How m uch?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:52 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

What Patrick said.

I have one on the shelf if you're interested.  It seems to work just as well as 
the SPA2x02.  Dozens of deployed SPA2x02 have been amazing for me.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Patrick Shoemaker 
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.commailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com 
wrote:
SPA8000

--
Patrick Shoemaker

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 13:49
To: motor...@afmug.commailto:motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List 
(wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org)
Subject: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

Looking for a 8 line reliable ATA, any recommendations?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143




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Re: [WISPA] Voip over fixed wireless ubnt

2011-07-27 Thread Mike Hammett
From my furthest device to my offnet, public server in Chicago...  6 
ms. I'm not sure it could be much better.


-
Mike Hammett
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On 7/27/2011 11:06 AM, Zach Mann wrote:


How many are sucessfully doing this for businesses and what details 
need to be looked at when making sure phones work ?


A SIP company will no longer partner with me as they have a sour taste 
from 2 previous wisps that had high latency issues.


-Zach





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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti antennas for sale

2011-07-27 Thread Chris Stradtman


  
  
I'm interested in them

Chris Stradtman

On 07/27/2011 01:51 PM, Martha Huizenga wrote:

  
  Hi All,
  
  We have four NanoBridge M9's that we can't use and can't return.
  Here's


a link to the details.
  
  All out of the box, but new. Two were used for indoor trials. All
  accessories included.
  
  Retail @ $199 each. Contact me off list if you are interested.
  
  Thanks
  

signature
Martha Huizenga
DC
  Access, LLC
202-546-5898
  Friendly,
Local,

Affordable, Internet!
Connecting the Capitol Hill Community
Join us on  or follow us on 
  
  
  
  
  




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Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

2011-07-27 Thread Gerard Dupont
I've used the GXW4008 and GXW4004 in a few locations. They seem to
work fine. One sip account can roll over to all 8 FXS ports which is
kinda cool. The GXW4008 is ~$200..

Gerard



On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
 How m uch?



 Gino A. Villarini

 g...@aeronetpr.com

 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

 787.273.4143

 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:52 PM

 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA



 What Patrick said.

 I have one on the shelf if you're interested.  It seems to work just as well
 as the SPA2x02.  Dozens of deployed SPA2x02 have been amazing for me.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Patrick Shoemaker
 shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com wrote:

 SPA8000



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Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Adam Greene
Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast? 
http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart 
shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty 
good, in my book

On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote:
 This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed,
 just tell me to check the archives ...

 Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference
 issues on our Alvarion  Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point
 links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz
 solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above (or even a little
 less).  For example, maybe something on the 24GHz frequency? Or even
 licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough and easy to obtain. Kind
 of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the cumbersome process of having
 to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each time.

 Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps.

Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do 
100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels.  The price is the 
same or cheaper.

I believe its 2 year warranty also.

-B-






On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote:
 Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast?
 http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart
 shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's pretty
 good, in my book

 On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote:
 This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if needed,
 just tell me to check the archives ...

 Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference
 issues on our Alvarion   Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point
 links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz
 solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above (or even a little
 less).  For example, maybe something on the 24GHz frequency? Or even
 licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough and easy to obtain. Kind
 of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the cumbersome process of having
 to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each time.

 Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Gino Villarini
IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No?

Gino A. Villarini
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Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps.

Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do
100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels.  The price is the same 
or cheaper.

I believe its 2 year warranty also.

-B-






On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote:
 Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast?
 http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart
 shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's 
 pretty good, in my book

 On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote:
 This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if 
 needed, just tell me to check the archives ...

 Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference
 issues on our Alvarion   Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point
 links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a 
 non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above 
 (or even a little less).  For example, maybe something on the 24GHz 
 frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough and 
 easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the 
 cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each 
 time.

 Thanks,
 Adam


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Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Gino Villarini
Nice! Price?

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

No.  Its unlicensed 24 Ghz.   Spec sheet attached


-B-




On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
 IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

 The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps.

 Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do
 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels.  The price is the same 
 or cheaper.

 I believe its 2 year warranty also.

 -B-






 On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote:
 Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast?
 http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart
 shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's 
 pretty good, in my book

 On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote:
 This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if 
 needed, just tell me to check the archives ...

 Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference
 issues on our AlvarionMikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point
 links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a 
 non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above 
 (or even a little less).  For example, maybe something on the 24GHz 
 frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough 
 and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the 
 cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each 
 time.

 Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
Street price is about $7500 with 1' antennas and 200 Mbps aggregate with 
power supplies.

About a 4 week lead time.

But 3 non-overlapping channels is the best



On 7/27/2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
 Nice! Price?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

 No.  Its unlicensed 24 Ghz.   Spec sheet attached


 -B-




 On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
 IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

 The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps.

 Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do
 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels.  The price is the 
 same or cheaper.

 I believe its 2 year warranty also.

 -B-






 On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote:
 Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast?
 http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart
 shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's
 pretty good, in my book

 On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote:
 This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if
 needed, just tell me to check the archives ...

 Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference
 issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point
 links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a
 non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above
 (or even a little less).  For example, maybe something on the 24GHz
 frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough
 and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the
 cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each 
 time.

 Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz?  What ranges can you do with them?
On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
 Nice! Price?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

 No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached


 -B-




 On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
 IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

 The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps.

 Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do
 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the
same or cheaper.

 I believe its 2 year warranty also.

 -B-






 On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote:
 Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast?
 http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart
 shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's
 pretty good, in my book

 On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote:
 This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if
 needed, just tell me to check the archives ...

 Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference
 issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point
 links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a
 non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above
 (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz
 frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough
 and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the
 cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations
each time.

 Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
Anything from 1' on up.  It has same characteristics of 23 Ghz. Radio 
snaps on the back of the antenna.


Need to do the path analysis.  +10 dB tx  and - 66 dB threshold.

I would not do more than 2 miles with 2' but that's just me.



-B-



On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz?  What ranges can you do with 
them?


On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com 
mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

 Nice! Price?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel

 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

 No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached


 -B-




 On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
 IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

 On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

 The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps.

 Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do
 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is 
the same or cheaper.


 I believe its 2 year warranty also.

 -B-






 On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote:
 Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast?
 http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart
 shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's
 pretty good, in my book

 On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote:
 This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if
 needed, just tell me to check the archives ...

 Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference
 issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to 
point

 links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a
 non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above
 (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz
 frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough
 and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the
 cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth 
stations each time.


 Thanks,
 Adam


 
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Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Bob Moldashel

Two more things...

Radio has built in spectrum analyzer that works  :-)

And I am told link is plane polarity so only uses one polarity plane 
for data...Not two.


-B-



On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz?  What ranges can you do with 
them?


On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com 
mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

 Nice! Price?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel

 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

 No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached


 -B-




 On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
 IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

 On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

 The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps.

 Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do
 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is 
the same or cheaper.


 I believe its 2 year warranty also.

 -B-






 On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote:
 Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast?
 http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart
 shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's
 pretty good, in my book

 On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote:
 This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if
 needed, just tell me to check the archives ...

 Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference
 issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to 
point

 links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a
 non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above
 (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz
 frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough
 and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the
 cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth 
stations each time.


 Thanks,
 Adam


 
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Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Gino Villarini
You can get similar unit from SAF, 350 Mbps FDX

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

Street price is about $7500 with 1' antennas and 200 Mbps aggregate with power 
supplies.

About a 4 week lead time.

But 3 non-overlapping channels is the best



On 7/27/2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
 Nice! Price?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

 No.  Its unlicensed 24 Ghz.   Spec sheet attached


 -B-




 On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
 IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

 The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps.

 Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do
 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels.  The price is the 
 same or cheaper.

 I believe its 2 year warranty also.

 -B-






 On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote:
 Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast?
 http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Char
 t shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's 
 pretty good, in my book

 On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote:
 This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if 
 needed, just tell me to check the archives ...

 Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference
 issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point
 links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a 
 non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above 
 (or even a little less).  For example, maybe something on the 24GHz 
 frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough 
 and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the 
 cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each 
 time.

 Thanks,
 Adam


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Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
So no way for a 6 mile link even with 6 foot dishes?  No idea what to put in
a path calc without knowing gains of dishes.
On Jul 27, 2011 10:09 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:
 Anything from 1' on up. It has same characteristics of 23 Ghz. Radio
 snaps on the back of the antenna.

 Need to do the path analysis. +10 dB tx and - 66 dB threshold.

 I would not do more than 2 miles with 2' but that's just me.



 -B-



 On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz? What ranges can you do with
 them?

 On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
 mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
  Nice! Price?
 
  Gino A. Villarini
  g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
  787.273.4143
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
 
  No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached
 
 
  -B-
 
 
 
 
  On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
  IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No?
 
  Gino A. Villarini
  g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
  787.273.4143
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
  On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM
  To: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
 
  The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps.
 
  Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do
  100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is
 the same or cheaper.
 
  I believe its 2 year warranty also.
 
  -B-
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote:
  Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast?
  http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart
  shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's
  pretty good, in my book
 
  On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote:
  This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if
  needed, just tell me to check the archives ...
 
  Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference
  issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to
 point
  links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a
  non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above
  (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz
  frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough
  and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the
  cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth
 stations each time.
 
  Thanks,
  Adam
 
 
  
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Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Gino Villarini
That's weird, FCC regulations specify cross Pol... I think this radio is for 
Licensed  24 ?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:25 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

Two more things...

Radio has built in spectrum analyzer that works  :-)

And I am told link is plane polarity so only uses one polarity plane for 
data...Not two.

-B-



On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz?  What ranges can you do with them?
On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini 
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
 Nice! Price?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

 No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached


 -B-




 On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
 IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

 The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps.

 Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do
 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same 
 or cheaper.

 I believe its 2 year warranty also.

 -B-






 On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote:
 Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast?
 http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart
 shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's
 pretty good, in my book

 On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote:
 This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if
 needed, just tell me to check the archives ...

 Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference
 issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point
 links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a
 non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above
 (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz
 frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough
 and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the
 cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each 
 time.

 Thanks,
 Adam


 
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Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Gino Villarini
6 miles go 18 or 24

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?


So no way for a 6 mile link even with 6 foot dishes?  No idea what to put in a 
path calc without knowing gains of dishes.
On Jul 27, 2011 10:09 PM, Bob Moldashel 
lakel...@gbcx.netmailto:lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:
 Anything from 1' on up. It has same characteristics of 23 Ghz. Radio
 snaps on the back of the antenna.

 Need to do the path analysis. +10 dB tx and - 66 dB threshold.

 I would not do more than 2 miles with 2' but that's just me.



 -B-



 On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz? What ranges can you do with
 them?

 On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini 
 g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
 mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
  Nice! Price?
 
  Gino A. Villarini
  g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com 
  mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
  787.273.4143
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
  mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
 
  No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached
 
 
  -B-
 
 
 
 
  On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
  IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No?
 
  Gino A. Villarini
  g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com 
  mailto:g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
  787.273.4143
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
  On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM
  To: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org 
  mailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
 
  The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps.
 
  Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do
  100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is
 the same or cheaper.
 
  I believe its 2 year warranty also.
 
  -B-
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote:
  Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast?
  http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart
  shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's
  pretty good, in my book
 
  On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote:
  This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if
  needed, just tell me to check the archives ...
 
  Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference
  issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to
 point
  links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a
  non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above
  (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz
  frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough
  and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the
  cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth
 stations each time.
 
  Thanks,
  Adam
 
 
  
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Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Bob Moldashel

I can't say no way but I would not be comfortable with that distance.

I've never seen a 23 Ghz six foot dish

-B-




On 7/27/2011 10:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


So no way for a 6 mile link even with 6 foot dishes?  No idea what to 
put in a path calc without knowing gains of dishes.


On Jul 27, 2011 10:09 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net 
mailto:lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:

 Anything from 1' on up. It has same characteristics of 23 Ghz. Radio
 snaps on the back of the antenna.

 Need to do the path analysis. +10 dB tx and - 66 dB threshold.

 I would not do more than 2 miles with 2' but that's just me.



 -B-



 On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz? What ranges can you do with
 them?

 On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com 
mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com

 mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
  Nice! Price?
 
  Gino A. Villarini
  g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com 
mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com

  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
  787.273.4143
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org

 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel

  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
 
  No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached
 
 
  -B-
 
 
 
 
  On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
  IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No?
 
  Gino A. Villarini
  g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com 
mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com

  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
  787.273.4143
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

  On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM
  To: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org

  Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
 
  The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps.
 
  Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that 
will do

  100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is
 the same or cheaper.
 
  I believe its 2 year warranty also.
 
  -B-
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote:
  Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast?
  
http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart

  shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's
  pretty good, in my book
 
  On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote:
  This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if
  needed, just tell me to check the archives ...
 
  Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent 
interference

  issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to
 point
  links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a
  non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or 
above

  (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz
  frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough
  and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because 
of the

  cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth
 stations each time.
 
  Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
Exalt will have one in 6 months but the SAF won't work on 3 
non-overlapping channels.

How many non-overlapping channels on the 350 Mbps SAF?



On 7/27/2011 10:11 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
 You can get similar unit from SAF, 350 Mbps FDX

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:17 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

 Street price is about $7500 with 1' antennas and 200 Mbps aggregate with 
 power supplies.

 About a 4 week lead time.

 But 3 non-overlapping channels is the best



 On 7/27/2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
 Nice! Price?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

 No.  Its unlicensed 24 Ghz.   Spec sheet attached


 -B-




 On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
 IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

 The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps.

 Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do
 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels.  The price is the 
 same or cheaper.

 I believe its 2 year warranty also.

 -B-






 On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote:
 Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast?
 http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Char
 t shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's
 pretty good, in my book

 On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote:
 This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if
 needed, just tell me to check the archives ...

 Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference
 issues on our Alvarion  Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to 
 point
 links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a
 non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above
 (or even a little less).  For example, maybe something on the 24GHz
 frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough
 and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the
 cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each 
 time.

 Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
Maybe it is.  I am only going by word of mouth on that.  That's why I 
said I am told..   Don't want to put my foot in my mouth...


:-)



On 7/27/2011 10:11 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:


That's weird, FCC regulations specify cross Pol... I think this radio 
is for Licensed  24 ?


Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Bob Moldashel

*Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:25 PM
*To:* wireless@wispa.org
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

Two more things...

Radio has built in spectrum analyzer that works  :-)

And I am told link is plane polarity so only uses one polarity 
plane for data...Not two.


-B-



On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz?  What ranges can you do with 
them?


On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com 
mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

 Nice! Price?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel

 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

 No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached


 -B-




 On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
 IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

 On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

 The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps.

 Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do
 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is 
the same or cheaper.


 I believe its 2 year warranty also.

 -B-






 On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote:
 Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast?
 http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart
 shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's
 pretty good, in my book

 On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote:
 This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if
 needed, just tell me to check the archives ...

 Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference
 issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to 
point

 links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a
 non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above
 (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz
 frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough
 and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the
 cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth 
stations each time.


 Thanks,
 Adam


 
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Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
I was just kind of thinking what use there would be for a 100 mbps radio in
24 Ghz.  Limitation of just a couple of miles like 60 Ghz, too.  Unless the
two other ethernet ports can be used to aggregate more bandwidth?

Josh Luthman
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On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:

 **
 Maybe it is.  I am only going by word of mouth on that.  That's why I said
 I am told..   Don't want to put my foot in my mouth...

 :-)




 On 7/27/2011 10:11 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:

  That’s weird, FCC regulations specify cross Pol… I think this radio is
 for Licensed  24 ?

 ** **

 Gino A. Villarini

 g...@aeronetpr.com

 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

 787.273.4143

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *Bob Moldashel
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:25 PM
 *To:* wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

 ** **

 Two more things...

 Radio has built in spectrum analyzer that works  :-)

 And I am told link is plane polarity so only uses one polarity plane
 for data...Not two.

 -B-



 On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 

 What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz?  What ranges can you do with
 them?

 On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
  Nice! Price?
 
  Gino A. Villarini
  g...@aeronetpr.com
  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
  787.273.4143
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
 
  No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached
 
 
  -B-
 
 
 
 
  On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
  IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No?
 
  Gino A. Villarini
  g...@aeronetpr.com
  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
  787.273.4143
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
  On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?
 
  The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps.
 
  Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do
  100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the
 same or cheaper.
 
  I believe its 2 year warranty also.
 
  -B-
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote:
  Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast?
  http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart
  shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's
  pretty good, in my book
 
  On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote:
  This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if
  needed, just tell me to check the archives ...
 
  Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference
  issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to
 point
  links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a
  non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above
  (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz
  frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough
  and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the
  cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations
 each time.
 
  Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Gino Villarini
SAF center freqs goes from 24170 to 24230, so you have 60 Mhz of Space for the 
TX channel . Using cross Pol and separation you could fit 3 50 mhz channels. 
But on the SAF you can adjust channel size from 20 mhz to 56 mhz... so that 
gives you some wiggle room... a 20 mhz channel would give you 126 Mbps Fdx @ 
256 qam

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:31 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

Maybe it is.  I am only going by word of mouth on that.  That's why I said I 
am told..   Don't want to put my foot in my mouth...

:-)



On 7/27/2011 10:11 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
That's weird, FCC regulations specify cross Pol... I think this radio is for 
Licensed  24 ?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:25 PM
To: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

Two more things...

Radio has built in spectrum analyzer that works  :-)

And I am told link is plane polarity so only uses one polarity plane for 
data...Not two.

-B-



On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz?  What ranges can you do with them?
On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini 
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
 Nice! Price?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

 No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached


 -B-




 On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
 IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

 The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps.

 Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that will do
 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The price is the same 
 or cheaper.

 I believe its 2 year warranty also.

 -B-






 On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote:
 Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast?
 http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart
 shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works, that's
 pretty good, in my book

 On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote:
 This question has probably been asked on this list before ... if
 needed, just tell me to check the archives ...

 Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent interference
 issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz point to point
 links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a
 non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex or above
 (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the 24GHz
 frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive enough
 and easy to obtain. Kind of shying away from 3.65GHz because of the
 cumbersome process of having to obtain waivers from 3 earth stations each 
 time.

 Thanks,
 Adam


 
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Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

2011-07-27 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
I have had one of the Ligowave (SAF) 24ghz 100meg radios in service for 
almost two years on a three mile link.   It has been an outstanding 
piece of equipment in the time that we have had it.A few months ago, 
after a discussion on list, we figured out that we did not have the 
cross-polarization set up correctly, so we fixed it and saw our 
throughput go from 60meg to 100meg full duplex along with another 15db 
of fade margin.We have had some occasional rain fade, but no outages 
lasted more than five minutes.  I do wish that there was an option for a 
bigger dish, as being able to go 6-8 miles would be very handy.


The link that we have it on used to be fed by a 100meg fiber connection 
that cost $500/month.   We spent $8000 on the Ligo radio, so it paid for 
itself in 16 months.  I think that is pretty useful!


Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

On 7/27/2011 8:20 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I was just kind of thinking what use there would be for a 100 mbps 
radio in 24 Ghz.  Limitation of just a couple of miles like 60 Ghz, 
too.  Unless the two other ethernet ports can be used to aggregate 
more bandwidth?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net 
mailto:lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:


Maybe it is.  I am only going by word of mouth on that.  That's
why I said I am told..   Don't want to put my foot in my mouth...

:-)




On 7/27/2011 10:11 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:


That's weird, FCC regulations specify cross Pol... I think this
radio is for Licensed  24 ?

Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143 tel:787.273.4143

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Bob Moldashel
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:25 PM
*To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

Two more things...

Radio has built in spectrum analyzer that works  :-)

And I am told link is plane polarity so only uses one
polarity plane for data...Not two.

-B-



On 7/27/2011 10:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

What kind of dishes can you use in 24ghz?  What ranges can you do
with them?

On Jul 27, 2011 9:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
 Nice! Price?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143 tel:787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:05 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

 No. Its unlicensed 24 Ghz. Spec sheet attached


 -B-




 On 7/27/2011 9:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
 IIRC the Exalt unit is for Licensed Fiber Tower Freqs? No?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143 tel:787.273.4143

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 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul?

 The Snaplink only does about 22 Mbps.

 Exalt just came out with a 24 Ghz. Full Duplex TDD radio that
will do
 100 Mbps and is capable of 3 non-overlapping channels. The
price is the same or cheaper.

 I believe its 2 year warranty also.

 -B-






 On 7/27/2011 7:23 PM, Adam Greene wrote:
 Has anyone tried the SnapLink Blast?

http://www.wisptech.com/index.php/Microwave_Backhaul_Comparison_Chart
 shows 24GHz, 160M half-duplex, $6k ... if it really works,
that's
 pretty good, in my book

 On 7/26/2011 10:47 AM, Adam Greene wrote:
 This question has probably been asked on this list before
... if
 needed, just tell me to check the archives ...

 Becoming increasingly frustrated with chasing apparent
interference
 issues on our Alvarion Mikrotik 2.4GHz and 5.4 - 5.8GHz
point to point
 links, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a
 non-2.4GHz/5.8GHz solution that can do ~50Mbps full duplex
or above
 (or even a little less). For example, maybe something on the
24GHz
 frequency? Or even licensed, if the license is inexpensive
enough