Re: [WISPA] Cogent?
You find me a provider that has 100% uptime over 5 years and I'll show you someone who doesn't know the entire story. There's always going to be an accident or mistake. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Adam Greene wrote: > Thanks all. Glad feedback is almost all positive. Not glad about that > New Orleans experience. > > > On 9/25/2012 2:30 PM, Gerard Dupont III wrote: > > Jim, > > > > IPv6 is an interesting topic with Cogent. We're receiving >11k routes > > from HE, Level3, and TWTC, but only ~8800 from Cogent. Cogent is not > > providing full routes on IPv6 because they do not peer with HE. Llast > > time I asked they have no plans of doing anything about it. > > > > I really wouldn't recommend anyone use Cogent as their sole provider. > > Cogent only has a single route to/from many of their pops. For example > > almost a month ago there was almost a week long outage in the New > > Orleans market when their transit provider had a cut. Looking at their > > network map shows multiple routes out of New Orleans though. > > > > Overall I've been very pleased with the performance of their network. > > Their support has been very knowledgeable and maintenance requests (ie > > prefix updates) have been handled in less than an hour. > > > > Gerard > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Jim Patient > wrote: > >> We are BGP peered with Cogent and HE on IPv6. I just noticed almost 19K > >> IPv6 routes now. That table is growing pretty fast. > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > >> Behalf Of Justin Wilson > >> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 9:30 PM > >> To: WISPA General List > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent? > >> > >> Great network. Great support. Much better than they were 5 > years > >> ago. As with any other provider they do have issues from time to time. > >> It goes without saying get 2 upstreams and do BGP. > >> > >> Justin > >> > >> -- > >> Justin Wilson > >> Aol & Yahoo IM: j2sw > >> http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News > >> http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter > >> http://www.thebrotherswisp.com > >> > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Adam Greene > >> Reply-To: WISPA General List > >> Date: Monday, September 24, 2012 5:31 PM > >> To: WISPA General List > >> Subject: [WISPA] Cogent? > >> > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> Cogent approached us recently, trying to sell us a 100M/100M Internet > >>> pipe. Anyone using them for upstream? Has your experience been > >>> generally positive or negative? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Adam > >>> ___ > >>> Wireless mailing list > >>> Wireless@wispa.org > >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>> > >> > >> ___ > >> Wireless mailing list > >> Wireless@wispa.org > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> ___ > >> Wireless mailing list > >> Wireless@wispa.org > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > ___ > > Wireless mailing list > > Wireless@wispa.org > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Cogent?
Thanks all. Glad feedback is almost all positive. Not glad about that New Orleans experience. On 9/25/2012 2:30 PM, Gerard Dupont III wrote: > Jim, > > IPv6 is an interesting topic with Cogent. We're receiving >11k routes > from HE, Level3, and TWTC, but only ~8800 from Cogent. Cogent is not > providing full routes on IPv6 because they do not peer with HE. Llast > time I asked they have no plans of doing anything about it. > > I really wouldn't recommend anyone use Cogent as their sole provider. > Cogent only has a single route to/from many of their pops. For example > almost a month ago there was almost a week long outage in the New > Orleans market when their transit provider had a cut. Looking at their > network map shows multiple routes out of New Orleans though. > > Overall I've been very pleased with the performance of their network. > Their support has been very knowledgeable and maintenance requests (ie > prefix updates) have been handled in less than an hour. > > Gerard > > > On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Jim Patient wrote: >> We are BGP peered with Cogent and HE on IPv6. I just noticed almost 19K >> IPv6 routes now. That table is growing pretty fast. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Justin Wilson >> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 9:30 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent? >> >> Great network. Great support. Much better than they were 5 years >> ago. As with any other provider they do have issues from time to time. >> It goes without saying get 2 upstreams and do BGP. >> >> Justin >> >> -- >> Justin Wilson >> Aol & Yahoo IM: j2sw >> http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News >> http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter >> http://www.thebrotherswisp.com >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Adam Greene >> Reply-To: WISPA General List >> Date: Monday, September 24, 2012 5:31 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] Cogent? >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Cogent approached us recently, trying to sell us a 100M/100M Internet >>> pipe. Anyone using them for upstream? Has your experience been >>> generally positive or negative? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Adam >>> ___ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >> >> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Cogent?
Jim, IPv6 is an interesting topic with Cogent. We're receiving >11k routes from HE, Level3, and TWTC, but only ~8800 from Cogent. Cogent is not providing full routes on IPv6 because they do not peer with HE. Llast time I asked they have no plans of doing anything about it. I really wouldn't recommend anyone use Cogent as their sole provider. Cogent only has a single route to/from many of their pops. For example almost a month ago there was almost a week long outage in the New Orleans market when their transit provider had a cut. Looking at their network map shows multiple routes out of New Orleans though. Overall I've been very pleased with the performance of their network. Their support has been very knowledgeable and maintenance requests (ie prefix updates) have been handled in less than an hour. Gerard On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Jim Patient wrote: > We are BGP peered with Cogent and HE on IPv6. I just noticed almost 19K > IPv6 routes now. That table is growing pretty fast. > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Justin Wilson > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 9:30 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent? > > Great network. Great support. Much better than they were 5 years > ago. As with any other provider they do have issues from time to time. > It goes without saying get 2 upstreams and do BGP. > > Justin > > -- > Justin Wilson > Aol & Yahoo IM: j2sw > http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News > http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter > http://www.thebrotherswisp.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: Adam Greene > Reply-To: WISPA General List > Date: Monday, September 24, 2012 5:31 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Cogent? > >>Hi all, >> >>Cogent approached us recently, trying to sell us a 100M/100M Internet >>pipe. Anyone using them for upstream? Has your experience been >>generally positive or negative? >> >>Thanks, >>Adam >>___ >>Wireless mailing list >>Wireless@wispa.org >>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Cogent?
We are BGP peered with Cogent and HE on IPv6. I just noticed almost 19K IPv6 routes now. That table is growing pretty fast. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 9:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent? Great network. Great support. Much better than they were 5 years ago. As with any other provider they do have issues from time to time. It goes without saying get 2 upstreams and do BGP. Justin -- Justin Wilson Aol & Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter http://www.thebrotherswisp.com -Original Message- From: Adam Greene Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Monday, September 24, 2012 5:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Cogent? >Hi all, > >Cogent approached us recently, trying to sell us a 100M/100M Internet >pipe. Anyone using them for upstream? Has your experience been >generally positive or negative? > >Thanks, >Adam >___ >Wireless mailing list >Wireless@wispa.org >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Cogent?
I've had them for over 3 years now and had zero downtime on their side. If I have a fiber issue and drop a few packets, they are calling my cell letting me know there is packet loss:-) We are also connected in one of the St Louis data centers. Jim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:49 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent? I have used them in the past and they were fantastic! I don't think I ever had downtime from them and the price was one of the best I found. I connected to them in St. Louis for what it's worth -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Adam Greene Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Cogent? Hi all, Cogent approached us recently, trying to sell us a 100M/100M Internet pipe. Anyone using them for upstream? Has your experience been generally positive or negative? Thanks, Adam ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Cogent?
Never really had a problem with them. (Or any downtime that wasn't maintenance related..) As others said, Tier 1 tech support has a clue. And can actually complete BGP functions. Email based support is fast (Like updating prefix filters). You get the speeds to pay for. The one thing they do however is de-prioritise ICMP on their routers. So traceroutes look poor to the untrained eye. Someone will say, I trace to google and as soon as it hits cogent the ping goes up to 200ms with packet loss! I point out that the end hop is fine and that's just how cogent works. Oh, And if your circuit is under Gigabit, and your running BGP you have to do this whole A peer B peer type setup with multihop BGP. Which is a bit annoying. But Gig and above you are interfaced right into their main router for that location and hold a session with your neighbor. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: "Adam Greene" Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 5:31 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] Cogent? Hi all, Cogent approached us recently, trying to sell us a 100M/100M Internet pipe. Anyone using them for upstream? Has your experience been generally positive or negative? Thanks, Adam ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Anyone have an Alvarion AU-NI-HP-2.4-08?
*Anyone have an Alvarion AU-NI-HP-2.4-08 they would be willing to part with? * * * *It is the indoor unit for the 2.4GHz Access Point... * * * *Please hit me off list at chris.cro...@telpage.net or give me a ring.* * * *Thanks!* * * *Chris* *Telpage Broadband* *Emporia VA* *434-210-1149 cell* *434-634-5100 office * ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Cogent?
Cheap, just not the cheapest. ;-) There are others less expensive, such as Hurricane Electric. HE doesn't have nearly the same coverage, though. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 5:04:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent? It is cheap if they have presence! On Sep 24, 2012 5:55 PM, "Zach Mann" < zma...@gmail.com > wrote: Solid company ... Network very rarely has any blips. Not the cheapest when it comes to a gig though. On Sep 24, 2012 4:48 PM, "Jason Hensley" < ja...@hensleycrew.com > wrote: I have used them in the past and they were fantastic! I don't think I ever had downtime from them and the price was one of the best I found. I connected to them in St. Louis for what it's worth -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Adam Greene Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Cogent? Hi all, Cogent approached us recently, trying to sell us a 100M/100M Internet pipe. Anyone using them for upstream? Has your experience been generally positive or negative? Thanks, Adam ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
