[WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik

2012-11-13 Thread Dave Barker
I'm upgrading my data from the provider. It's fiber right now but hands off 
from the provider as Ethernet. The new circuit is going to handoff as fiber. 
Currently I'm using a RB493G router at my DEMARC, what Mikrotik router do you 
all recommend to take a fiber handoff?
Thanks
Dave
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Re: [WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik

2012-11-13 Thread Chris Hudson
I'm using a RB2011LS-IN on a gigabit fiber that I have 100mb service an it's 
working great so far.

Chris




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d...@broadlincwireless.com wrote:I'm upgrading my data from the provider. 
It's fiber right now but hands off from the provider as Ethernet. The new 
circuit is going to handoff as fiber. Currently I'm using a RB493G router at my 
DEMARC, what Mikrotik router do you all recommend to take a fiber handoff?
Thanks
Dave
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Re: [WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik

2012-11-13 Thread Josh Luthman
A whole bunch of them have SFPs now.

If it was my choice, I'd get x86.

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


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 I'm upgrading my data from the provider. It's fiber right now but hands
 off from the provider as Ethernet. The new circuit is going to handoff as
 fiber. Currently I'm using a RB493G router at my DEMARC, what Mikrotik
 router do you all recommend to take a fiber handoff?
 Thanks
 Dave
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Re: [WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik

2012-11-13 Thread Scott Reed
I depends on what fiber they hand you.  If it is Multi-Mode, you can get 
sub $75.00 media converters and leave the 450 in place.
If it is Single Mode, you may as well get a router with SFP ports as to 
get a media converter.

On 11/13/2012 1:00 PM, Dave Barker wrote:
 I'm upgrading my data from the provider. It's fiber right now but hands off 
 from the provider as Ethernet. The new circuit is going to handoff as fiber. 
 Currently I'm using a RB493G router at my DEMARC, what Mikrotik router do you 
 all recommend to take a fiber handoff?
 Thanks
 Dave
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Re: [WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik

2012-11-13 Thread Nick Olsen
Also depends on your commit. How was your CPU load looking with the RB493G? 
If you're increasing bandwidth, And you were on the edge of needing a 
faster router. Might as well do them at the same time.

Baltic Networks/RouterMaxx with SFP ports comes to mind as a nice step up.

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik

I depends on what fiber they hand you.  If it is Multi-Mode, you can get 
sub $75.00 media converters and leave the 450 in place.
If it is Single Mode, you may as well get a router with SFP ports as to 
get a media converter.

On 11/13/2012 1:00 PM, Dave Barker wrote:
 I'm upgrading my data from the provider. It's fiber right now but hands 
off from the provider as Ethernet. The new circuit is going to handoff as 
fiber. Currently I'm using a RB493G router at my DEMARC, what Mikrotik 
router do you all recommend to take a fiber handoff?
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Re: [WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik

2012-11-13 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
... Scott, are you under the impression that the Single Mode Fiber 
Converters are More Expensive ?
Today that is not the case...  One can get good quality SM or Multi-Mode 
Fiber Media converters (Gigabit) for $100 to $150.

BTW.. if you are going to be needing multiple connections, one might 
consider putting in a Gigabit Switch with SFP ports on them...


Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net

On 11/13/2012 1:21 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
 I depends on what fiber they hand you.  If it is Multi-Mode, you can get
 sub $75.00 media converters and leave the 450 in place.
 If it is Single Mode, you may as well get a router with SFP ports as to
 get a media converter.

 On 11/13/2012 1:00 PM, Dave Barker wrote:
 I'm upgrading my data from the provider. It's fiber right now but hands off 
 from the provider as Ethernet. The new circuit is going to handoff as fiber. 
 Currently I'm using a RB493G router at my DEMARC, what Mikrotik router do 
 you all recommend to take a fiber handoff?
 Thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik

2012-11-13 Thread Chris Hudson
It seems to me that the price is pretty much the same when sm vs mm, just
goes up depending on the distance the sfp needs to go. For my application I
needed to get an 80km sm version And it was 245 from aaxeon.com

Chris

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 3:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik

... Scott, are you under the impression that the Single Mode Fiber
Converters are More Expensive ?
Today that is not the case...  One can get good quality SM or Multi-Mode
Fiber Media converters (Gigabit) for $100 to $150.

BTW.. if you are going to be needing multiple connections, one might
consider putting in a Gigabit Switch with SFP ports on them...


Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net

On 11/13/2012 1:21 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
 I depends on what fiber they hand you.  If it is Multi-Mode, you can get
 sub $75.00 media converters and leave the 450 in place.
 If it is Single Mode, you may as well get a router with SFP ports as to
 get a media converter.

 On 11/13/2012 1:00 PM, Dave Barker wrote:
 I'm upgrading my data from the provider. It's fiber right now but hands
off from the provider as Ethernet. The new circuit is going to handoff as
fiber. Currently I'm using a RB493G router at my DEMARC, what Mikrotik
router do you all recommend to take a fiber handoff?
 Thanks
 Dave
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Re: [WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik

2012-11-13 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
SM SFP's come in many versions..
most common / generic
Short Range   (LX)
Medium Range  (LH)
Long Range.   (ZX)

(then you also have the Colorized versions.. and not counting the Single 
Fiber SFP's. (Tx  Rx on a single fiber, rather than a pair).

For those interested in getting more info on these... here is a good 
starting document from CISCO..
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/modules/ps5455/ps6577/product_data_sheet0900aecd8033f885.html

LH  ZX stuff can get expensive.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net

On 11/13/2012 4:28 PM, Chris Hudson wrote:
 It seems to me that the price is pretty much the same when sm vs mm, just
 goes up depending on the distance the sfp needs to go. For my application I
 needed to get an 80km sm version And it was 245 from aaxeon.com

 Chris

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
 Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 3:07 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik

 ... Scott, are you under the impression that the Single Mode Fiber
 Converters are More Expensive ?
 Today that is not the case...  One can get good quality SM or Multi-Mode
 Fiber Media converters (Gigabit) for $100 to $150.

 BTW.. if you are going to be needing multiple connections, one might
 consider putting in a Gigabit Switch with SFP ports on them...


 Regards.

 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, Fl 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net

 On 11/13/2012 1:21 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
 I depends on what fiber they hand you.  If it is Multi-Mode, you can get
 sub $75.00 media converters and leave the 450 in place.
 If it is Single Mode, you may as well get a router with SFP ports as to
 get a media converter.

 On 11/13/2012 1:00 PM, Dave Barker wrote:
 I'm upgrading my data from the provider. It's fiber right now but hands
 off from the provider as Ethernet. The new circuit is going to handoff as
 fiber. Currently I'm using a RB493G router at my DEMARC, what Mikrotik
 router do you all recommend to take a fiber handoff?
 Thanks
 Dave
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Re: [WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik

2012-11-13 Thread Scott Reed
Yes, when I priced them last year I didn't find any SM for  $350.
Got a brand you like? I am going to need another soon.

On 11/13/2012 4:06 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
 ... Scott, are you under the impression that the Single Mode Fiber
 Converters are More Expensive ?
 Today that is not the case...  One can get good quality SM or Multi-Mode
 Fiber Media converters (Gigabit) for $100 to $150.

 BTW.. if you are going to be needing multiple connections, one might
 consider putting in a Gigabit Switch with SFP ports on them...


 Regards.

 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, Fl 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net

 On 11/13/2012 1:21 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
 I depends on what fiber they hand you.  If it is Multi-Mode, you can get
 sub $75.00 media converters and leave the 450 in place.
 If it is Single Mode, you may as well get a router with SFP ports as to
 get a media converter.

 On 11/13/2012 1:00 PM, Dave Barker wrote:
 I'm upgrading my data from the provider. It's fiber right now but hands off 
 from the provider as Ethernet. The new circuit is going to handoff as 
 fiber. Currently I'm using a RB493G router at my DEMARC, what Mikrotik 
 router do you all recommend to take a fiber handoff?
 Thanks
 Dave
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[WISPA] Service in Wagoner, OK

2012-11-13 Thread Chris Hudson
I'm in need of a connection in Wagoner Friday night for a football game to
stream video. I would like at least 2M/2M.

 

 

Thanks!

Chris Hudson

Hudson Technology Solutions, Inc.

214 W Main St

Weatherford, OK 73096

Office: 580-772-2224

Cell: 580-774-9579

 

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Re: [WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik

2012-11-13 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
I am not picky about my SFP's... lots of time pick them up on Ebay... 
(Surplus).

If you like  I have SM Fiber GBIC's.   $20 each
if you need SFP's  (normal LX)... I have those too... $ 20 each.

If you want full Media converter last ones I bought were from CTC 
Union... www.ctcu.com.tw
. 
http://stores.ebay.com/Fiber-Optic-for-All-warehouse?_trksid=p2047675.l2563

These days, we are using Ethernet Switches with SFP's as media 
converters... with the exception of when we need a SMF Fast Ethernet 
Media Converter.


Regards.


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net

On 11/13/2012 5:52 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
 Yes, when I priced them last year I didn't find any SM for  $350.
 Got a brand you like? I am going to need another soon.

 On 11/13/2012 4:06 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
 ... Scott, are you under the impression that the Single Mode Fiber
 Converters are More Expensive ?
 Today that is not the case...  One can get good quality SM or Multi-Mode
 Fiber Media converters (Gigabit) for $100 to $150.

 BTW.. if you are going to be needing multiple connections, one might
 consider putting in a Gigabit Switch with SFP ports on them...


 Regards.

 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, Fl 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net

 On 11/13/2012 1:21 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
 I depends on what fiber they hand you. If it is Multi-Mode, you can get
 sub $75.00 media converters and leave the 450 in place.
 If it is Single Mode, you may as well get a router with SFP ports as to
 get a media converter.

 On 11/13/2012 1:00 PM, Dave Barker wrote:
 I'm upgrading my data from the provider. It's fiber right now but 
 hands off from the provider as Ethernet. The new circuit is going 
 to handoff as fiber. Currently I'm using a RB493G router at my 
 DEMARC, what Mikrotik router do you all recommend to take a fiber 
 handoff?
 Thanks
 Dave
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Re: [WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik

2012-11-13 Thread Mike Hammett
There's also BX and EX. ;-)



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From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 3:48:51 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik

SM SFP's come in many versions..
most common / generic
Short Range   (LX)
Medium Range  (LH)
Long Range.   (ZX)

(then you also have the Colorized versions.. and not counting the Single 
Fiber SFP's. (Tx  Rx on a single fiber, rather than a pair).

For those interested in getting more info on these... here is a good 
starting document from CISCO..
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/modules/ps5455/ps6577/product_data_sheet0900aecd8033f885.html

LH  ZX stuff can get expensive.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net

On 11/13/2012 4:28 PM, Chris Hudson wrote:
 It seems to me that the price is pretty much the same when sm vs mm, just
 goes up depending on the distance the sfp needs to go. For my application I
 needed to get an 80km sm version And it was 245 from aaxeon.com

 Chris

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
 Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 3:07 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik

 ... Scott, are you under the impression that the Single Mode Fiber
 Converters are More Expensive ?
 Today that is not the case...  One can get good quality SM or Multi-Mode
 Fiber Media converters (Gigabit) for $100 to $150.

 BTW.. if you are going to be needing multiple connections, one might
 consider putting in a Gigabit Switch with SFP ports on them...


 Regards.

 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, Fl 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net

 On 11/13/2012 1:21 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
 I depends on what fiber they hand you.  If it is Multi-Mode, you can get
 sub $75.00 media converters and leave the 450 in place.
 If it is Single Mode, you may as well get a router with SFP ports as to
 get a media converter.

 On 11/13/2012 1:00 PM, Dave Barker wrote:
 I'm upgrading my data from the provider. It's fiber right now but hands
 off from the provider as Ethernet. The new circuit is going to handoff as
 fiber. Currently I'm using a RB493G router at my DEMARC, what Mikrotik
 router do you all recommend to take a fiber handoff?
 Thanks
 Dave
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Re: [WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik

2012-11-13 Thread Chuck Hogg
2-3 weeks and the CCR will be available...other than that there are
plenty of x86 platforms or the 2011.

Regards,
Chuck


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 I'm upgrading my data from the provider. It's fiber right now but hands off 
 from the provider as Ethernet. The new circuit is going to handoff as fiber. 
 Currently I'm using a RB493G router at my DEMARC, what Mikrotik router do you 
 all recommend to take a fiber handoff?
 Thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik

2012-11-13 Thread James Howard
We just got a PowerRouter V3 from LinkTechs.net.  Definitely recommend taking a 
look at those.  Not the cheapest thing out there but lots of ports and 
horsepower.

James Howard
LiteWire Internet

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 4:05 PM
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2-3 weeks and the CCR will be available...other than that there are
plenty of x86 platforms or the 2011.

Regards,
Chuck


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