[WISPA] VoIP Taxes, Fees, Insanity

2013-07-27 Thread Jeremy
I am attempting to figure out all of the taxes for VoiP and the main thing
that has me confused is the Universal Service Fund.  It seems that my state
(Utah) has a USF of 0.45%
http://www.psc.state.ut.us/utilities/telecom/documents/Rule%20746-360%20amendment.rtf


Then it also seems like the Feds want 15.1%??  That is huge!
http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/contribution-factor-quarterly-filings-universal-service-fund-usf-management-support

Then there is sales and use tax of
*State Sales  Use -* 4.7%
*Municipality Sales  Use - *varies - see
http://tax.utah.gov/salestax/rate/13q3combined.pdf

Then we have E911:

*E911 State -* .08
*E911 County -* .61
*Poison Control -* .07
*---*
*Total for E911 -* .76

Then, since October 2011 we are also liable for the *Telecommunications
Relay Fund* - .06
 http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-11-150A1.pdf
http://www.psc.state.ut.us/utilities/telecom/documents/Rule%20746-360%20amendment.rtf
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Re: [WISPA] VoIP Taxes, Fees, Insanity

2013-07-27 Thread Jeremy
Accidentally hit send.  There is more!  We also have:

*Municipal Telecommunications License Tax (MTLT) - *3.5% ...this is the
tricky one.  It is never charged on a county level and is determined by the
zip+4 of the municipality.  It appears that most charge it but some don't
and unincorporated areas never do.
http://tax.utah.gov/utah-taxes/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=177#telecom
http://tax.utah.gov/salestax/rate/13q3other.pdf

So we are looking at like 25-30% tax?? Is this correct?


On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am attempting to figure out all of the taxes for VoiP and the main thing
 that has me confused is the Universal Service Fund.  It seems that my state
 (Utah) has a USF of 0.45% 
 http://www.psc.state.ut.us/utilities/telecom/documents/Rule%20746-360%20amendment.rtf


 Then it also seems like the Feds want 15.1%??  That is huge!
 http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/contribution-factor-quarterly-filings-universal-service-fund-usf-management-support

 Then there is sales and use tax of
 *State Sales  Use -* 4.7%
 *Municipality Sales  Use - *varies - see
 http://tax.utah.gov/salestax/rate/13q3combined.pdf

 Then we have E911:

 *E911 State -* .08
 *E911 County -* .61
 *Poison Control -* .07
 *---*
 *Total for E911 -* .76

 Then, since October 2011 we are also liable for the *Telecommunications
 Relay Fund* - .06
  http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-11-150A1.pdf

 http://www.psc.state.ut.us/utilities/telecom/documents/Rule%20746-360%20amendment.rtf

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Re: [WISPA] VoIP Taxes, Fees, Insanity

2013-07-27 Thread Chris Fabien
Our $25 phone service ends up being between $29 and $33 depending on what
county the customer is in Sounds like your taxes are higher there.


On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 12:22 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Accidentally hit send.  There is more!  We also have:

 *Municipal Telecommunications License Tax (MTLT) - *3.5% ...this is the
 tricky one.  It is never charged on a county level and is determined by the
 zip+4 of the municipality.  It appears that most charge it but some don't
 and unincorporated areas never do.
 http://tax.utah.gov/utah-taxes/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=177#telecom
 http://tax.utah.gov/salestax/rate/13q3other.pdf

 So we are looking at like 25-30% tax?? Is this correct?


 On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am attempting to figure out all of the taxes for VoiP and the main
 thing that has me confused is the Universal Service Fund.  It seems that my
 state (Utah) has a USF of 0.45% 
 http://www.psc.state.ut.us/utilities/telecom/documents/Rule%20746-360%20amendment.rtf


 Then it also seems like the Feds want 15.1%??  That is huge!
 http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/contribution-factor-quarterly-filings-universal-service-fund-usf-management-support

 Then there is sales and use tax of
 *State Sales  Use -* 4.7%
 *Municipality Sales  Use - *varies - see
 http://tax.utah.gov/salestax/rate/13q3combined.pdf

 Then we have E911:

 *E911 State -* .08
 *E911 County -* .61
 *Poison Control -* .07
 *---*
 *Total for E911 -* .76

 Then, since October 2011 we are also liable for the *Telecommunications
 Relay Fund* - .06
  http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-11-150A1.pdf

 http://www.psc.state.ut.us/utilities/telecom/documents/Rule%20746-360%20amendment.rtf



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Re: [WISPA] VoIP Taxes, Fees, Insanity

2013-07-27 Thread Chris Fabien
That looks about right, it varies by state/locality of course. We collect
Federal USF, State use tax, state and county E911. The USF you get to
pocket until your required contributions are $10k/year - under that you are
considered de minimus and just have to file the annual form.

When we set up our billing the Telecom Relay Fund passed under our radar so
now we're just paying for that out of pocket. I'm not sure if you are
allowed to collect that specifically from your customers as well.


On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am attempting to figure out all of the taxes for VoiP and the main thing
 that has me confused is the Universal Service Fund.  It seems that my state
 (Utah) has a USF of 0.45% 
 http://www.psc.state.ut.us/utilities/telecom/documents/Rule%20746-360%20amendment.rtf


 Then it also seems like the Feds want 15.1%??  That is huge!
 http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/contribution-factor-quarterly-filings-universal-service-fund-usf-management-support

 Then there is sales and use tax of
 *State Sales  Use -* 4.7%
 *Municipality Sales  Use - *varies - see
 http://tax.utah.gov/salestax/rate/13q3combined.pdf

 Then we have E911:

 *E911 State -* .08
 *E911 County -* .61
 *Poison Control -* .07
 *---*
 *Total for E911 -* .76

 Then, since October 2011 we are also liable for the *Telecommunications
 Relay Fund* - .06
  http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-11-150A1.pdf

 http://www.psc.state.ut.us/utilities/telecom/documents/Rule%20746-360%20amendment.rtf

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Re: [WISPA] VoIP Taxes, Fees, Insanity

2013-07-27 Thread Jeremy
From what I read it seems like you can collect whatever you want directly
from your customers but it may be considered as income and taxed as such.
So you can't really pass it on as a direct fee and bypass your income tax
liability for it.


On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:

 That looks about right, it varies by state/locality of course. We collect
 Federal USF, State use tax, state and county E911. The USF you get to
 pocket until your required contributions are $10k/year - under that you are
 considered de minimus and just have to file the annual form.

 When we set up our billing the Telecom Relay Fund passed under our radar
 so now we're just paying for that out of pocket. I'm not sure if you are
 allowed to collect that specifically from your customers as well.


 On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am attempting to figure out all of the taxes for VoiP and the main
 thing that has me confused is the Universal Service Fund.  It seems that my
 state (Utah) has a USF of 0.45% 
 http://www.psc.state.ut.us/utilities/telecom/documents/Rule%20746-360%20amendment.rtf


 Then it also seems like the Feds want 15.1%??  That is huge!
 http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/contribution-factor-quarterly-filings-universal-service-fund-usf-management-support

 Then there is sales and use tax of
 *State Sales  Use -* 4.7%
 *Municipality Sales  Use - *varies - see
 http://tax.utah.gov/salestax/rate/13q3combined.pdf

 Then we have E911:

 *E911 State -* .08
 *E911 County -* .61
 *Poison Control -* .07
 *---*
 *Total for E911 -* .76

 Then, since October 2011 we are also liable for the *Telecommunications
 Relay Fund* - .06
  http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-11-150A1.pdf

 http://www.psc.state.ut.us/utilities/telecom/documents/Rule%20746-360%20amendment.rtf

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