Re: [WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference

2014-04-22 Thread Greg Osborn
I have a Roku HD and it uses 5.8 for the remote, not 2.4.  I don't believe
the roku can connect to 5.8 for an internet connection.  I could be wrong,
my wife lets me know at least once a day ;) !

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 10:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference

 

Weird. We give away rokus to our new setups, but not the roku3.

On another note, I bought an amazon fire tv for the house to see how well it
would stream, and I wonder if it's remote is wifi... never checked.

 

Josh Reynolds
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
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On 04/18/2014 06:08 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:

Has anyone run into this yet? 

The Roku 3 uses it's own dedicated wifi network to communicate with the
remote control. If the roku is connected to the customer's wifi router to
get online, the remote wifi will always use the same channel and cause
interference with other wifi devices. 

We just had an install today where the router was hearing the interfering
SSID from the roku at a -22. And as you might expect the wifi performance
was garbage. 

Just one more thing to look out for and cause support headaches. 

The workaround is to plug in the roku via ethernet, which will make it use
the 5ghz band to talk to remote - of course that might interfere with your
5ghz CPE now. 

Are IR remotes really all that bad? 








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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced email

2014-04-22 Thread Mike Hammett
I assume without Barracuda's extortion via mailreg.org. ;-) 




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From: ORI.NET - Scott LePere sc...@staff.ori.net 
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org 
Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org 
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 3:57:49 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced email 


My company does email hosting for a few wisps and 1000's of business world 
wide. We have a spam filter that is just as good as postini or barracuda and we 
can be price competitive. 
Anyone interested in outsourcing email or website hosting please contact me 
offlist! 


Scott LePere 
sc...@ori.net 
317.774.2100 





Please excuse my auto correct and typo's, this message was sent from a small 
keyboard. 

On Apr 18, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181)  
o...@odessaoffice.com  wrote: 







We use tucows. Great support, good service. The antispam isn’t as good as 
postini was but the rest of it has been really nice. 

marlon 





From: Clay Stewart 
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 8:40 AM 
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced email 


All our customers use their own email... turned off Exchange Servers 4 years 
ago. Not one single new customer EVER asks for email. 

We use GMail Business for everything at office. 



On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 11:37 AM, ~NGL~  n...@ngl.net  wrote: 

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I know this was just a topic on this list, but I lost all of the contact 
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Please help if you have a contact. 
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Re: [WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference

2014-04-22 Thread Mike Hammett
or even bluetooth... 




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- Original Message -

From: Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com 
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org 
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 9:08:04 PM 
Subject: [WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference 






Has anyone run into this yet? 

The Roku 3 uses it's own dedicated wifi network to communicate with the remote 
control. If the roku is connected to the customer's wifi router to get online, 
the remote wifi will always use the same channel and cause interference with 
other wifi devices. 

We just had an install today where the router was hearing the interfering SSID 
from the roku at a -22. And as you might expect the wifi performance was 
garbage. 

Just one more thing to look out for and cause support headaches. 

The workaround is to plug in the roku via ethernet, which will make it use the 
5ghz band to talk to remote - of course that might interfere with your 5ghz CPE 
now. 

Are IR remotes really all that bad? 



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Re: [WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference

2014-04-22 Thread Josh Luthman
Bluetooth is 2.4, same issue


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:

 or even bluetooth...



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 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Friday, April 18, 2014 9:08:04 PM
 *Subject: *[WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference


 Has anyone run into this yet?

 The Roku 3 uses it's own dedicated wifi network to communicate with the
 remote control. If the roku is connected to the customer's wifi router to
 get online, the remote wifi will always use the same channel and cause
 interference with other wifi devices.

 We just had an install today where the router was hearing the interfering
 SSID from the roku at a -22. And as you might expect the wifi performance
 was garbage.

 Just one more thing to look out for and cause support headaches.

 The workaround is to plug in the roku via ethernet, which will make it use
 the 5ghz band to talk to remote - of course that might interfere with your
 5ghz CPE now.

 Are IR remotes really all that bad?



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Re: [WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference

2014-04-22 Thread Mike Hammett
Most bluetooth operates in the upper part of 2.4 GHz where 802.11 does not run 
due to OOB issues with the neighboring satellite spectrum. 




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- Original Message -

From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org 
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:39:49 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference 


Bluetooth is 2.4, same issue 



Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Mike Hammett  wispawirel...@ics-il.net  
wrote: 




or even bluetooth... 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 





From: Chris Fabien  ch...@lakenetmi.com  
To: WISPA General List  wireless@wispa.org  
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 9:08:04 PM 
Subject: [WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference 








Has anyone run into this yet? 

The Roku 3 uses it's own dedicated wifi network to communicate with the remote 
control. If the roku is connected to the customer's wifi router to get online, 
the remote wifi will always use the same channel and cause interference with 
other wifi devices. 

We just had an install today where the router was hearing the interfering SSID 
from the roku at a -22. And as you might expect the wifi performance was 
garbage. 

Just one more thing to look out for and cause support headaches. 

The workaround is to plug in the roku via ethernet, which will make it use the 
5ghz band to talk to remote - of course that might interfere with your 5ghz CPE 
now. 

Are IR remotes really all that bad? 




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Re: [WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference

2014-04-22 Thread Josh Luthman
Oh, neat!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 22, 2014 1:47 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Most bluetooth operates in the upper part of 2.4 GHz where 802.11 does not
 run due to OOB issues with the neighboring satellite spectrum.



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 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:39:49 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference

 Bluetooth is 2.4, same issue


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:

 or even bluetooth...



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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
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 *From: *Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com
 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Friday, April 18, 2014 9:08:04 PM
 *Subject: *[WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference


 Has anyone run into this yet?

 The Roku 3 uses it's own dedicated wifi network to communicate with the
 remote control. If the roku is connected to the customer's wifi router to
 get online, the remote wifi will always use the same channel and cause
 interference with other wifi devices.

 We just had an install today where the router was hearing the interfering
 SSID from the roku at a -22. And as you might expect the wifi performance
 was garbage.

 Just one more thing to look out for and cause support headaches.

 The workaround is to plug in the roku via ethernet, which will make it
 use the 5ghz band to talk to remote - of course that might interfere with
 your 5ghz CPE now.

 Are IR remotes really all that bad?



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Re: [WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference

2014-04-22 Thread Matt Hoppes
Wait really? (I'm not doubting you, I'm just doubting you :)

When I get a phone call on my iPhone, my mouse and keybaord disconnect
from my laptop..


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312

On 4/22/14, 1:48 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Oh, neat!
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Apr 22, 2014 1:47 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 
 Most bluetooth operates in the upper part of 2.4 GHz where 802.11
 does not run due to OOB issues with the neighboring satellite spectrum.
 
 
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL
 
 
 *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:39:49 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference
 
 Bluetooth is 2.4, same issue
 
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Mike Hammett
 wispawirel...@ics-il.net mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 
 or even bluetooth...
 
 
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL
 
 
 
 *From: *Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com
 mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com
 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Friday, April 18, 2014 9:08:04 PM
 *Subject: *[WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference
 
 
 Has anyone run into this yet?
 
 The Roku 3 uses it's own dedicated wifi network to communicate
 with the remote control. If the roku is connected to the
 customer's wifi router to get online, the remote wifi will
 always use the same channel and cause interference with other
 wifi devices.
 
 We just had an install today where the router was hearing the
 interfering SSID from the roku at a -22. And as you might expect
 the wifi performance was garbage.
 
 Just one more thing to look out for and cause support headaches.
 
 The workaround is to plug in the roku via ethernet, which will
 make it use the 5ghz band to talk to remote - of course that
 might interfere with your 5ghz CPE now.
 
 Are IR remotes really all that bad?
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference

2014-04-22 Thread Josh Luthman
Bluetooth interfering with Bluetooth.  How's that raise any question?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.comwrote:

 Wait really? (I'm not doubting you, I'm just doubting you :)

 When I get a phone call on my iPhone, my mouse and keybaord disconnect
 from my laptop..


 Matt Hoppes
 Director of Information Technology
 Indigo Wireless
 +1 (570) 723-7312

 On 4/22/14, 1:48 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
  Oh, neat!
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  On Apr 22, 2014 1:47 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
  mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 
  Most bluetooth operates in the upper part of 2.4 GHz where 802.11
  does not run due to OOB issues with the neighboring satellite
 spectrum.
 
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL
 
 
 
  *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  mailto:wireless@wispa.org
  *Sent: *Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:39:49 PM
  *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference
 
  Bluetooth is 2.4, same issue
 
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
 
  On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Mike Hammett
  wispawirel...@ics-il.net mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 
  or even bluetooth...
 
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL
 
 
 
  *From: *Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com
  mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com
  *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  mailto:wireless@wispa.org
  *Sent: *Friday, April 18, 2014 9:08:04 PM
  *Subject: *[WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference
 
 
  Has anyone run into this yet?
 
  The Roku 3 uses it's own dedicated wifi network to communicate
  with the remote control. If the roku is connected to the
  customer's wifi router to get online, the remote wifi will
  always use the same channel and cause interference with other
  wifi devices.
 
  We just had an install today where the router was hearing the
  interfering SSID from the roku at a -22. And as you might expect
  the wifi performance was garbage.
 
  Just one more thing to look out for and cause support headaches.
 
  The workaround is to plug in the roku via ethernet, which will
  make it use the 5ghz band to talk to remote - of course that
  might interfere with your 5ghz CPE now.
 
  Are IR remotes really all that bad?
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference

2014-04-22 Thread Matt Hoppes
No.  BT is off on the iPhone.  When it wakes up the WiFi comes alive.


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312

On 4/22/14, 1:53 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Bluetooth interfering with Bluetooth.  How's that raise any question?
 
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
 mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote:
 
 Wait really? (I'm not doubting you, I'm just doubting you :)
 
 When I get a phone call on my iPhone, my mouse and keybaord disconnect
 from my laptop..
 
 
 Matt Hoppes
 Director of Information Technology
 Indigo Wireless
 +1 (570) 723-7312 tel:%2B1%20%28570%29%20723-7312
 
 On 4/22/14, 1:48 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
  Oh, neat!
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  On Apr 22, 2014 1:47 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net
  mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 
  Most bluetooth operates in the upper part of 2.4 GHz where 802.11
  does not run due to OOB issues with the neighboring satellite
 spectrum.
 
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL
 
 
 
  *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless@wispa.org
  mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org
  *Sent: *Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:39:49 PM
  *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference
 
  Bluetooth is 2.4, same issue
 
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
 tel:937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
 tel:937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
 
  On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Mike Hammett
  wispawirel...@ics-il.net mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 wrote:
 
  or even bluetooth...
 
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL
 
 
 
  *From: *Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com
 mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com
  mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com
  *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless@wispa.org
  mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org
  *Sent: *Friday, April 18, 2014 9:08:04 PM
  *Subject: *[WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference
 
 
  Has anyone run into this yet?
 
  The Roku 3 uses it's own dedicated wifi network to communicate
  with the remote control. If the roku is connected to the
  customer's wifi router to get online, the remote wifi will
  always use the same channel and cause interference with other
  wifi devices.
 
  We just had an install today where the router was hearing the
  interfering SSID from the roku at a -22. And as you might
 expect
  the wifi performance was garbage.
 
  Just one more thing to look out for and cause support
 headaches.
 
  The workaround is to plug in the roku via ethernet, which will
  make it use the 5ghz band to talk to remote - of course that
  might interfere with your 5ghz CPE now.
 
  Are IR remotes really all that bad?
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference

2014-04-22 Thread Josh Luthman
Is the KBM using proprietary protocol in 2.4 or are they Bluetooth?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.comwrote:

 No.  BT is off on the iPhone.  When it wakes up the WiFi comes alive.


 Matt Hoppes
 Director of Information Technology
 Indigo Wireless
 +1 (570) 723-7312

 On 4/22/14, 1:53 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
  Bluetooth interfering with Bluetooth.  How's that raise any question?
 
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
 
  On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
  mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote:
 
  Wait really? (I'm not doubting you, I'm just doubting you :)
 
  When I get a phone call on my iPhone, my mouse and keybaord
 disconnect
  from my laptop..
 
 
  Matt Hoppes
  Director of Information Technology
  Indigo Wireless
  +1 (570) 723-7312 tel:%2B1%20%28570%29%20723-7312
 
  On 4/22/14, 1:48 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
   Oh, neat!
  
   Josh Luthman
   Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
   Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
   1100 Wayne St
   Suite 1337
   Troy, OH 45373
  
   On Apr 22, 2014 1:47 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
  mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net
   mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net
  mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
  
   Most bluetooth operates in the upper part of 2.4 GHz where
 802.11
   does not run due to OOB issues with the neighboring satellite
  spectrum.
  
  
  
   -
   Mike Hammett
   Intelligent Computing Solutions
   http://www.ics-il.com
  
  
  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL
  
  
 
 
   *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
   mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
   *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  mailto:wireless@wispa.org
   mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org
   *Sent: *Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:39:49 PM
   *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference
  
   Bluetooth is 2.4, same issue
  
  
   Josh Luthman
   Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
  tel:937-552-2340
   Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
  tel:937-552-2343
   1100 Wayne St
   Suite 1337
   Troy, OH 45373
  
  
   On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Mike Hammett
   wispawirel...@ics-il.net mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net
  mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net
  wrote:
  
   or even bluetooth...
  
  
  
   -
   Mike Hammett
   Intelligent Computing Solutions
   http://www.ics-il.com
  
  
  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL
  
  
 
 
   *From: *Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com
  mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com
   mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com
   *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  mailto:wireless@wispa.org
   mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org
   *Sent: *Friday, April 18, 2014 9:08:04 PM
   *Subject: *[WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference
  
  
   Has anyone run into this yet?
  
   The Roku 3 uses it's own dedicated wifi network to
 communicate
   with the remote control. If the roku is connected to the
   customer's wifi router to get online, the remote wifi will
   always use the same channel and cause interference with
 other
   wifi devices.
  
   We just had an install today where the router was hearing
 the
   interfering SSID from the roku at a -22. And as you might
  expect
   the wifi performance was garbage.
  
   Just one more thing to look out for and cause support
  headaches.
  
   The workaround is to plug in the roku via ethernet, which
 will
   make it use the 5ghz band to talk to remote - of course
 that
   might interfere with your 5ghz CPE now.
  
 

Re: [WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference

2014-04-22 Thread Matt Hoppes
It's BT connecting to my MacBook. 

 On Apr 22, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 
 Is the KBM using proprietary protocol in 2.4 or are they Bluetooth?
 
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com 
 wrote:
 No.  BT is off on the iPhone.  When it wakes up the WiFi comes alive.
 
 
 Matt Hoppes
 Director of Information Technology
 Indigo Wireless
 +1 (570) 723-7312
 
 On 4/22/14, 1:53 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
  Bluetooth interfering with Bluetooth.  How's that raise any question?
 
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
 
  On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
  mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote:
 
  Wait really? (I'm not doubting you, I'm just doubting you :)
 
  When I get a phone call on my iPhone, my mouse and keybaord disconnect
  from my laptop..
 
 
  Matt Hoppes
  Director of Information Technology
  Indigo Wireless
  +1 (570) 723-7312 tel:%2B1%20%28570%29%20723-7312
 
  On 4/22/14, 1:48 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
   Oh, neat!
  
   Josh Luthman
   Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
   Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
   1100 Wayne St
   Suite 1337
   Troy, OH 45373
  
   On Apr 22, 2014 1:47 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
  mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net
   mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net
  mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
  
   Most bluetooth operates in the upper part of 2.4 GHz where 802.11
   does not run due to OOB issues with the neighboring satellite
  spectrum.
  
  
  
   -
   Mike Hammett
   Intelligent Computing Solutions
   http://www.ics-il.com
  
  
  
  https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL
  
  
  
  
   *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
   mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
   *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  mailto:wireless@wispa.org
   mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org
   *Sent: *Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:39:49 PM
   *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference
  
   Bluetooth is 2.4, same issue
  
  
   Josh Luthman
   Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
  tel:937-552-2340
   Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
  tel:937-552-2343
   1100 Wayne St
   Suite 1337
   Troy, OH 45373
  
  
   On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Mike Hammett
   wispawirel...@ics-il.net mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net
  mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net
  wrote:
  
   or even bluetooth...
  
  
  
   -
   Mike Hammett
   Intelligent Computing Solutions
   http://www.ics-il.com
  
  
  
  https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL
  
  
  
  
   *From: *Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com
  mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com
   mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com
   *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  mailto:wireless@wispa.org
   mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org
   *Sent: *Friday, April 18, 2014 9:08:04 PM
   *Subject: *[WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference
  
  
   Has anyone run into this yet?
  
   The Roku 3 uses it's own dedicated wifi network to 
  communicate
   with the remote control. If the roku is connected to the
   customer's wifi router to get online, the remote wifi will
   always use the same channel and cause interference with other
   wifi devices.
  
   We just had an install today where the router was hearing the
   interfering SSID from the roku at a -22. And as you might
  expect
   the wifi performance was garbage.
  
   Just one more thing to look out for and cause support
  headaches.
  
   The workaround is to plug in the roku via ethernet, which 
  will
 

Re: [WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference

2014-04-22 Thread Mike Hammett
I saw that in a couple publications about the GlobalStar 2.4 situation. They 
said bluetooth and other low-power devices use that restricted ISM space now, 
so when GlobalStar takes it all over, those other devices will be displaced to 
the entire band. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com 
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org 
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:50:05 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference 

Wait really? (I'm not doubting you, I'm just doubting you :) 

When I get a phone call on my iPhone, my mouse and keybaord disconnect 
from my laptop.. 


Matt Hoppes 
Director of Information Technology 
Indigo Wireless 
+1 (570) 723-7312 

On 4/22/14, 1:48 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 
 Oh, neat! 
 
 Josh Luthman 
 Office: 937-552-2340 
 Direct: 937-552-2343 
 1100 Wayne St 
 Suite 1337 
 Troy, OH 45373 
 
 On Apr 22, 2014 1:47 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net 
 mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: 
 
 Most bluetooth operates in the upper part of 2.4 GHz where 802.11 
 does not run due to OOB issues with the neighboring satellite spectrum. 
 
 
 
 - 
 Mike Hammett 
 Intelligent Computing Solutions 
 http://www.ics-il.com 
 
 https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL
  
 
  
 *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
 mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org 
 mailto:wireless@wispa.org 
 *Sent: *Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:39:49 PM 
 *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference 
 
 Bluetooth is 2.4, same issue 
 
 
 Josh Luthman 
 Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 
 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 
 1100 Wayne St 
 Suite 1337 
 Troy, OH 45373 
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Mike Hammett 
 wispawirel...@ics-il.net mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: 
 
 or even bluetooth... 
 
 
 
 - 
 Mike Hammett 
 Intelligent Computing Solutions 
 http://www.ics-il.com 
 
 https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL
  
 
  
 *From: *Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com 
 mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com 
 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org 
 mailto:wireless@wispa.org 
 *Sent: *Friday, April 18, 2014 9:08:04 PM 
 *Subject: *[WISPA] Roku 3 Wifi Interference 
 
 
 Has anyone run into this yet? 
 
 The Roku 3 uses it's own dedicated wifi network to communicate 
 with the remote control. If the roku is connected to the 
 customer's wifi router to get online, the remote wifi will 
 always use the same channel and cause interference with other 
 wifi devices. 
 
 We just had an install today where the router was hearing the 
 interfering SSID from the roku at a -22. And as you might expect 
 the wifi performance was garbage. 
 
 Just one more thing to look out for and cause support headaches. 
 
 The workaround is to plug in the roku via ethernet, which will 
 make it use the 5ghz band to talk to remote - of course that 
 might interfere with your 5ghz CPE now. 
 
 Are IR remotes really all that bad? 
 
 
 
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[WISPA] CANOPY PMP 430:

2014-04-22 Thread Art Stephens
Looking for feed back before buying.
The site says 50MB/sector - 200MB/Tower
  I assume the tower one is four of these GPS sync together.
So if we need to do 5M down by 5M up per sub what would be the distance -
number of subs per Sector.
It appears the 50MB/sector is for 5 mile maximum LOS but how many subs?
Simple math is 50 divided by 5 so we can safely have 10 per sector.
I say that because we have gone past the days of just browsing and
sending/receiving emails/files.
Today's internet usage is steaming streaming streaming.
And at the same time seems we can no longer go 10 to 20 miles that we used
to.

I heard these are not cheap units and want to make sure we spend the money
for best performance.


-- 
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Senior Networking Technician
Ptera Inc.
PO Box 135
24001 E Mission Suite 50
Liberty Lake, WA 99019
509-927-7837
ptera.com
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Re: [WISPA] CANOPY PMP 430:

2014-04-22 Thread Sean Heskett
Just go for the PMP450.  Same price, double the performance.  Plus the 450
is cambium's focus.  The 430 will be going away

Sean

On Tuesday, April 22, 2014, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote:

 Looking for feed back before buying.
 The site says 50MB/sector - 200MB/Tower
   I assume the tower one is four of these GPS sync together.
 So if we need to do 5M down by 5M up per sub what would be the distance -
 number of subs per Sector.
 It appears the 50MB/sector is for 5 mile maximum LOS but how many subs?
 Simple math is 50 divided by 5 so we can safely have 10 per sector.
 I say that because we have gone past the days of just browsing and
 sending/receiving emails/files.
 Today's internet usage is steaming streaming streaming.
 And at the same time seems we can no longer go 10 to 20 miles that we used
 to.

 I heard these are not cheap units and want to make sure we spend the money
 for best performance.


 --
 Arthur Stephens
 Senior Networking Technician
 Ptera Inc.
 PO Box 135
 24001 E Mission Suite 50
 Liberty Lake, WA 99019
 509-927-7837
 ptera.com
 facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera

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