Re: [WISPA] FW: only 20 people on the video stream forthe ntiameetingstoday
-Original Message- From: Denise Hamilton [mailto:den...@rseng.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:26 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] FW: only 20 people on the video stream forthe ntiameetingstoday Thank you. Are they steaming or telecasting the meeting today in Vegas? ~ Denise Hamilton Rapid Systems 813-232-4887 x 101 Fax 813-236-0014 den...@rapidsys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 5:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW: only 20 people on the video stream forthe ntiameetingstoday Denise, Great Job, getting another WISP comment on the record! Form 477 was an important one to get in. I will comment in more detail on the member's list. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Denise Hamilton den...@rapidsys.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:28 PM Subject: [WISPA] FW: only 20 people on the video stream forthe ntiameetingstoday I was ticked that Sasha rebutted my remarks regarding the 477 form but I did call back in and have on public record that we want the 477 form to be a criteria since it means we have been playing by the rules! And it will be too much of a bear to have thousands of apps without any prequels at all. And the lady that kept stressing government involvement (Betty - ugh!). I could barely sit down through that whole meeting. ~ Denise Hamilton Rapid Systems 813-232-4887 x 101 Fax 813-236-0014 den...@rapidsys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Yes on Form 477! ;) V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday I don't know. I've not been able to find that! I wonder if that was a slip up and he meant to say something else? marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday How does one ask questions via the webcast? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe
[WISPA] FW: only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday
I was ticked that Sasha rebutted my remarks regarding the 477 form but I did call back in and have on public record that we want the 477 form to be a criteria since it means we have been playing by the rules! And it will be too much of a bear to have thousands of apps without any prequels at all. And the lady that kept stressing government involvement (Betty - ugh!). I could barely sit down through that whole meeting. ~ Denise Hamilton Rapid Systems 813-232-4887 x 101 Fax 813-236-0014 den...@rapidsys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Yes on Form 477! ;) V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday I don't know. I've not been able to find that! I wonder if that was a slip up and he meant to say something else? marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday How does one ask questions via the webcast? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday
Coming across complaining about lawsuits, the local governments, the telcos, etc. is not a good way, in my humble opinion, to come across and successfully make policy in what we should be doing to make rules for grants. I trust when WISPA represents us on Thursday we come across better then the New America Foundation. Sorry but we never like to hire people that only complained about their last employer... ~ Denise Hamilton Rapid Systems 813-232-4887 x 101 Fax 813-236-0014 den...@rapidsys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday We have had an on again/off again relationship with New America Foundation. Mostly we agree with them. They lean far more to locally built non profit or consumer created networks than commercial ones. marlon - Original Message - From: Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday Yeah. What do you make of this Sascha guy? He seems like one of the more reasonable people there and then he throws something in that makes me think he is hinting at GovMuniWifi On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: More with a government or non profit agency of some kind. I agree though, so far the best speakers are pushing for private public partnerships. With public being the main partner. marlon - Original Message - From: Lists li...@stlbroadband.com To: ccoo...@intelliwave.com; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for thentiameetingstoday They are asking us to partner with the State, but it is under debate. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:44 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Scary? Care to expand upon that for those of us not in attendance? Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Not me, this is getting a bit scary. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday I'm going to fall asleep watching this... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday
John, Sasha did not go on a rant per say but would make a disparaging remark with his other comments. When I mentioned that a good matrix to start for the prerequisites on getting an grant application submitted would be submittal of the 477 form he mentioned how all of that data is not very good anyway. And when the government was mentioning how we need to work within the government to get anywhere he mentioned how the government is not helpful in working together. There are other examples and I am just paraphrasing but please look at the transcripts and let me know if you think I am off base here. ~ Denise Hamilton Rapid Systems 813-232-4887 x 101 Fax 813-236-0014 den...@rapidsys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Denise Hamilton den...@rapidsys.com wrote: Coming across complaining about lawsuits, the local governments, the telcos, etc. is not a good way, in my humble opinion, to come across and successfully make policy in what we should be doing to make rules for grants. I trust when WISPA represents us on Thursday we come across better then the New America Foundation. Sorry but we never like to hire people that only complained about their last employer... Can you provide more detail about the complaining you are referencing above. I did not see it. I was at the doctor earlier today and missed it all. :-( Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video streamforthentiameetingstoday
All I have found so far is: http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/meetings.html -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:33 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video streamforthentiameetingstoday Does anyone have a link to any other transcript copies other than what's available at NTIA? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Denise Hamilton Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:22 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video streamforthentiameetingstoday John, Sasha did not go on a rant per say but would make a disparaging remark with his other comments. When I mentioned that a good matrix to start for the prerequisites on getting an grant application submitted would be submittal of the 477 form he mentioned how all of that data is not very good anyway. And when the government was mentioning how we need to work within the government to get anywhere he mentioned how the government is not helpful in working together. There are other examples and I am just paraphrasing but please look at the transcripts and let me know if you think I am off base here. ~ Denise Hamilton Rapid Systems 813-232-4887 x 101 Fax 813-236-0014 den...@rapidsys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Denise Hamilton den...@rapidsys.com wrote: Coming across complaining about lawsuits, the local governments, the telcos, etc. is not a good way, in my humble opinion, to come across and successfully make policy in what we should be doing to make rules for grants. I trust when WISPA represents us on Thursday we come across better then the New America Foundation. Sorry but we never like to hire people that only complained about their last employer... Can you provide more detail about the complaining you are referencing above. I did not see it. I was at the doctor earlier today and missed it all. :-( Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Conference
The 15 Questions on the Federal Registar. Are we going to list them here and discuss them in this forum? The legislative forum? http://www.ntia.doc.gov/frnotices/2009/FR_BTOP_RFI_090312.pdf Due 30 days from today. Data gathering for the grant applications. Providing service to the underserved or unserved. What resources are being utilized or can be utilized to gather this information on a wide scale? ~ Denise Hamilton Rapid Systems 813-232-4887 x 101 Fax 813-236-0014 den...@rapidsys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Conference We need to consider each application in terms of will it increase broadband affordability and subscribership, will it provide the greatest broadband speed to the most users? Will it enhance service for health care, education or children? And whether or not the applicant is a socially and economically disadvantaged small business. Hopefully this means the money is for us and not ATT\Comcast. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Larry A Weidig lwei...@excel.net Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:58 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Conference Is that Tom DeReggi in the background? * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FW: AGENDA FOR MARCH 10
Dear Tom I have just joined the legislative list so apologies if this has already been sent out but would you please post the existing position paper WISPA already sent to the legislators? Thank you. ~ Denise Hamilton Rapid Systems 813-232-4887 x 101 Fax 813-236-0014 den...@rapidsys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] AGENDA FOR MARCH 10 Marlon, I feel for the point, that you are trying to make. Nobody wants to sit idle. But the reality is that we don;t control the shots, nor do we authorize the appointments. We can just request them. Secondly, If we had 5-10 people sitting around a desk in one place, for a day, I agree we'd effectively and quickly get alot written as a group. But we do not have the luxur to work in that environment, and still include our diverse national membership's interests. That challenges group writting. But we do have what I feel is a good first step with a group position, and its what we submitted to legislators last month, and included consensus from all members of the committee. I can assure you two things 1. Our face-to-face meeting requests are submitted, and we should get our meeting request granted shortly after the public meeting on the 10th. 2. WISPA legislative committee and/or council will submit questions to agencies prior to the public meeting on the 10th, if there are questions to be asked. Policy makers will not accept being dictated to, how to run their programs. Thats already been discussed here as a committee. The ideal situation is to be asked for our opinion. That happened by GAO :-) The reality is that we've requested our meeting, and we'll get our chance to suggest recommendation, soon. Steve Smith hit on a core point, that as individuals, we DO want to use our personal contacts and avenues to get input to the policy makers. It opimizes the chance that we'll get input heard. What we also want, are clear messages that support each other, instead of contradict each other. Committee, I have a plan. The plan is we follow the proceedure asked by policy makers. We show up for the group public meeting the 10th and learn. We should have 4 WISPA members going, that I know of. Ready to ask question or make statements, IF the policy makers allows time for it. And immediately after I will work with Steve Coran, to formulate our strategy for moving forward, and discuss the core items that we'll want to focus on in our new position papers, and share that proposed agenda with committee members, for their input and consensus. That is what I believe is required to effectively make headway with policy makers. Marlon, I agree that that plan, leaves members somewhat idle, in the week interim. There is no reason for you or anyone to sit idle, that wants to contribute time today. I have the following suggestions for ANYONE that wants to get to work today. 1) Take WISPA's existing position paper sent to legislators, and expand on it. Write down anything new that you feel should be added to that paper, that is not included, and needs to. (I already have a few items in mind, based on committee's past input, but do not have it on paper). 2) Make an outline of what you feel are topics/possitions that we should submit to RUS versus NTIA. We will likely have different goals for each target Grantor. 3) Submit any questions that you may have to ask policy makers, based on what we currently know, and submit them to Steve Coran for review. (I recommend CCing the legislative list, when sending to Steve). This will prevent duplications, and allow us to include all questions, that are not in conflict, with WISPA's submitted questions. However, we need questions, if we are going to submit them. Policy makers asked for questions in advance. If you have questions, I highly recommend that you write them ASAP, so there is time for Steve to review and send to NTIA/RUS prior to the public meeting. It will be pointless to send them, if they are not asked soon. I'd recommend that we should send these questions no later than Friday, to give policy makers time to review before public meeting. And I'd recommend they get sent to Steve today and tommorrow, to give him chance to review them. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Steve Smith st...@chase3000.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Cc: grantscommit...@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] AGENDA FOR MARCH 10 I suspect that Tom is correct in that very few questions will get to be asked at the March 10 meeting. Looking at the agenda it will be mostly speeches by representatives from the various agencies. Since they have the money, I also suspect that they will be the ones telling us how it works rather
