Re: [WISPA] Looking for service in Milwaukie Or.

2012-02-23 Thread Frank Crawford
http://www.freewirebroadband.com/company/

Marlon, these guys might be her best bet, depending on location in 
Milwaukie.

Frank

On 2/22/2012 1:58 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote:
 Hi All,

 Can anyone service my sister?  I'd hate to send her to the cable co or
 telco.

 thanks!
 marlon

 - Original Message -
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 To:o...@odessaoffice.com
 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:58 PM


 14332 se cedar ave
 Milwaukie or 97267.

 Thanks for your help
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Re: [WISPA] Seasickness guaranteed (no password)

2011-08-01 Thread Frank Crawford

Ya I say them loading into there boat.


On 8/1/2011 6:15 PM, Jeremy Parr wrote:

Oh shit! Someone is stealing the rig!

http://i.imgur.com/gDTkE.jpg

On 1 August 2011 19:40, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com 
mailto:tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote:


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[WISPA] test

2011-04-12 Thread Frank Crawford
test



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[WISPA] Just a test

2011-04-12 Thread Frank Crawford
Anyone Home?



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Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform

2011-03-28 Thread Frank Crawford
http://www.mailenable.com/standard_edition.asp

There is a free (as in beer) edition and versions with the requirements 
that you requested.

Frank

On 3/28/2011 12:53 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote:
 Since we began in '98 we've been using the same windows based email server 
 MailMax.  Because of some support/productivity issues we are investigating 
 integrating a new box.  The requirements are: webmail, web management of 
 individuals mail accounts (with password reset), pop3/smtp/imap, can run on 
 Windows or Linux.  We would also like a calendar and address book module in 
 webmail as well.

 Anyone have suggestions?

 Thanks,
 Patrick Nix, Jr.,
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 CSWEB.NET Internet Services
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 the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any 
 copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than 
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Re: [WISPA] 110 input for ARC enclosure

2011-03-06 Thread Frank Crawford

This might be of interest.
http://www.fpolc.com/featured_products.htm

On 3/6/2011 1:32 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:


Looking for a waterproof 3 position male/female connector assembly 
similar to the RJ45 assembly for an ARC Wireless enclosure. Needs to 
fit a 14/3 outdoor cable coming from a streetlight photocell adapter.


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Re: [WISPA] Used Trango gear

2011-03-04 Thread Frank Crawford

How much?

On 3/4/2011 2:47 PM, Kevin Sullivan wrote:
We've got eighteen Trango 900 SU's, and two Trango 915. All working 
pulls. Anyone interested?

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Re: [WISPA] Access to sell plans on 3G and 4G

2011-01-27 Thread Frank Crawford



http://www.gpsworld.com/gnss-system/news/fcc-grants-go-ahead-potential-interferer-with-gps-signal-10989

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On 1/27/2011 8:47 PM, Scottie Arnett wrote:

http://www.broadbandqwireless.com/
Sorry for the confusion.
Scott

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*To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org ; Principal
WISPA Member List mailto:w...@wispa.org
*Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:42 PM
*Subject:* [WISPA] Access to sell plans on 3G and 4G

I am a new member to Wispa, and I have a few questions? I have
in close proximity to my area a http://www.broadband wireless.com/
http://www.broadband%20wireless.com/ and another provider I have
forgot the name of...They both provide wireless data internet
through cell phone data plans on 3G and 4G. They both advertise it
as unlimited, but if you read into it, it is not unlimited.
My question is, how or how can us WISP get access to sell a 3G or
4G plan on Sprint or Verizon as these plan's have been sold to
other companies? I will get the Verizon company with unlimited
access as soon as I can return back to the office.
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

2011-01-27 Thread Frank Crawford
Thanks Jack, I'm interested in such governmental actions around the 
world and the ways that it will be worked around.

Frank

On 1/27/2011 9:06 PM, Jack Unger wrote:
 Sorry for the OT post. I thought some might be interested.

 ***
 Confirming what a few have reported this evening: in an action unprecedented 
 in
 Internet history, the Egyptian government appears to have ordered service
 providers to shut down all international connections to the Internet. Critical
 European-Asian fiber-optic routes through Egypt appear to be unaffected for 
 now.
 But every Egyptian provider, every business, bank, Internet cafe, website,
 school, embassy, and government office that relied on the big four Egyptian 
 ISPs
 for their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the world. 
 Link
 Egypt, Vodafone/Raya, Telecom Egypt, Etisalat Misr, and all their customers 
 and
 partners are, for the moment, off the air.

 At 22:34 UTC (00:34am local time), Renesys observed the virtually simultaneous
 withdrawal of all routes to Egyptian networks in the Internet's global routing
 table. Approximately 3,500 individual BGP routes were withdrawn, leaving no
 valid paths by which the rest of the world could continue to exchange Internet
 traffic with Egypt's service providers. Virtually all of Egypt's Internet
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Re: [WISPA] Webcam

2010-11-17 Thread Frank Crawford
It was - tsharp...@qorvus.com

On 11/17/2010 7:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
 There was a vendor on one of these wireless lists selling some nice
 looking ones...  Mobtix or something like that.

 They have had IIRC tens of thousands of them deployed for large event
 security.

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 A group of radio stations that I provide phone and Internet service would 
 like to setup a webcam in a few of their studios to stream video to their 
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Re: [WISPA] Recover deleted email from Outlook

2010-11-13 Thread Frank Crawford
ZMEIL works, don't remember the cost but there is a trial that I used 
with the same problem..

Frank

On 11/13/2010 8:55 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
 Does anyone have any recommendations for free software to do this?

 My sister deleted all of her email.  I don't think any of it is
 important enough to spend money on to recover.  Most tools I've seen
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Re: [WISPA] Transmit Antenna Height

2010-09-30 Thread Frank Crawford

 Fred and Jack

Antenna Height - Height is restricted to 30 meters above HAAT (height 
above average terrain) of 76 meters this can be calculated here.


»www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/bickel/haat···tor.html 
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/bickel/haat_calculator.html


Where it asks this question

(Enter the height (in meters) of the antenna radiation center above mean 
sea level (RCAMSL))


Enter your site elevation NOT the antenna radiation center because you 
get to go 30 meters above ground level at that point.


ref: Second Memorandum Opinion and Order (paragraph - 66)

Frank










Frank

On 9/30/2010 7:37 PM, Jack Unger wrote:

Fred,

I'm sorry to seem dense but I don't understand your explanation below. 
I'd appreciate it if you would re-explain. The FCC said:


transmit antenna used with fixed devices may not be more than 30 
meters above the ground. In addition, fixed devices may not be located 
at sites where the height above average terrain (HAAT) at ground level 
is more than 76 meters.


I'm trying to reconcile that with your statements. Could you please 
re-explain more clearly or by using better actual numbers (both HAAT 
at ground level and antenna height above ground)?


Thanks in advance,
   jack


On 9/23/2010 4:48 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:



The rules allow antenna heights up to 30 meters, around 100 feet.  
One problem with the maximum HAAT limit is that it applies to the 
ground height, based on having a 30 meter high antenna.  In other 
words, the ruling assumed a maximum antenna HAAT, and then set the 
ground HAAT to be 30m below that.  If somebody's house is 10m below 
the limit, then a 10m antenna should be legal. (The minimum antenna 
height went away, since sensing is no longer required.  That frankly 
seems to be the only major improvement in the rules.)




Brian

*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Tom DeReggi

*Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2010 7:32 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Transmit Antenna Height

Yeah, that really sucks. Many areas needing served have thick 
forest/trees easilly 70ft tall.
A 90ft height, just wouldn't allow enough of the signal to have open 
air, and the signal would be going through trees most of the full path.
In 900Mhz, the difference between having the tower side over the 
tree line and below the tree line can be the difference between a 
quarter mile coverage and a 7 mile coverage in our market.
All be it, 700Mhz does have better NLOS propogation characteristics 
than 900 does.


I would have liked to see that height doubled.

However, admittedly, it will allow much better spectrum re-use in 
areas that have a limited number of channels available.

Spectrum reuse is one of the best ways to serve more people.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -
From: Fred Goldstein mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Transmit Antenna Height

This item alone may be the show-stopper, the poison pill that
makes it useless to WISPs in much of the country.

In places where the routine variation in elevation is more than
75 meters, there will be houses (subscribers) that are more than
76 meters AAT.  I notice this in the areas I'm studying, both in
the east and in the upper midwest.

In a place like Kansas, nobody is 75m AAT.  But in the woody
Berkshires of Western Massachusetts, the UHF space is needed to
get through the trees, and a significant share of houses are
75m AAT.  Also, if you want to cover a decent radius, the
access point needs to be up the hill too.  75 meters isn't a
mountaintop; it's just a little rise.

It makes no sense to absolutely ban fixed use at a site that is
100m AAT if the nearest protected-service contour is, say, 50
miles away.  A more sensible rule would be to follow broadcast
practice, and lower the ERP based on height, so that the
distance to a given signal strength contour is held constant as
the height rises.  Hence a Class A FM station is allowed up to
15 miles, and if it is more than 300 feet AAT, then it is
allowed less than the 3000 watts ERP that apply at lower heights.

Maybe the lawyers want to have more petitions to argue over.

At 9/23/2010 04:07 PM, Rich Harnish wrote:


65. Decision. We decline to increase the maximum permitted
transmit antenna height above ground for fixed TV bands devices.
As the Commission stated in the Second Report and Order, the 30
meters above ground limit was established as a balance between
the benefits of increasing TV bands device transmission range
and the need to minimize the impact on licensed services.129
Consistent with the Commission's stated approach in the Second
Report and Order 

Re: [WISPA] Transmit Antenna Height

2010-09-30 Thread Frank Crawford

 Fred, I think were saying the same thing?

On 9/30/2010 8:13 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:

At 9/30/2010 10:37 PM, Jack Unger wrote:

Fred,

I'm sorry to seem dense but I don't understand your explanation 
below. I'd appreciate it if you would re-explain. The FCC said:


transmit antenna used with fixed devices may not be more than 30 
meters above the ground. In addition, fixed devices may not be 
located at sites where the height above average terrain (HAAT) at 
ground level is more than 76 meters.


I'm trying to reconcile that with your statements. Could you please 
re-explain more clearly or by using better actual numbers (both HAAT 
at ground level and antenna height above ground)?


Thanks in advance,
   jack


Sure.  In the Order itself, the FCC explained the origin of the 76 
meter HAAT limit.  They explained that they didn't want any antennas 
more than 106 meters AAT.  That's the maximum antenna HAAT I referred 
to.  Since antennas are allowed to be 30 meters above ground, they 
subtracted 30 from 106 and got 75. See paragraph 66 of the Order:


We find that limiting the fixed device antenna HAAT to 106 meters 
(350 feet), as calculated by the TV bands database, provides an 
appropriate balance of these concerns. We will therefore restrict 
fixed TV bands devices from operating at locations where the HAAT of 
the ground is greater than 76 meters; this will allow use of an 
antenna at a height of up to 30 meters above ground level to provide 
an antenna HAAT of 106 meters. Accordingly, we are specifying that a 
fixed TV bands device antenna may not be located at a site where the 
ground HAAT is greater than 75 meters (246 feet).


The Order cited an IEEE 802 Petitition 
http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=6520201311 which called 
for HAAT to be a factor.  But they didn't call for a ban on operation 
above 75 meters; rather, they wanted co-channel separation to increase 
with height:


less than 3 meters  | 6 
km 	0.1 km

3  Less than 10 meters* 6.9 km  0.256 km
10  Less than 30 meters 10.8 km 0.285 km
30  Less than 50 meters 13.6 km 0.309 km
50  Less than 75 meters 16.1 km 0.330 km
75  Less than 150 meters22.6 km 0.372 km
150  Less than 300 meters   32 km   0.405 km
300  Less than 600 meters   45.7 km 0.419 km
600 meters or higher68 km   0.426 km


That's rational.  On the other hand I'd prefer allowing fixed devices 
at any ground elevation, to allow everyone to subscribe, so I'd 
suggest instead that they maximum ERP be decreased in order to limit 
interference to the same level.  So maybe 6 dB from 76 to 150 meters 
and 10 dB to 300 meters, though that's a guess; I haven't run the 
calculations.  And I'd allow directional antennas, professionally 
installed, to have ERP measured in the direction of the protected 
contour, with no reduction in ERP if it's clear to the distance the 
above chart.


I'm thinking about a petition to that effect.  I have real subscriber 
sites in mind.




On 9/23/2010 4:48 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:



The rules allow antenna heights up to 30 meters, around 100 feet.  
One problem with the maximum HAAT limit is that it applies to the 
ground height, based on having a 30 meter high antenna.  In other 
words, the ruling assumed a maximum antenna HAAT, and then set the 
ground HAAT to be 30m below that.  If somebody's house is 10m below 
the limit, then a 10m antenna should be legal. (The minimum antenna 
height went away, since sensing is no longer required.  That frankly 
seems to be the only major improvement in the rules.)




Brian

*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Tom DeReggi

*Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2010 7:32 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Transmit Antenna Height

Yeah, that really sucks. Many areas needing served have thick 
forest/trees easilly 70ft tall.
A 90ft height, just wouldn't allow enough of the signal to have 
open air, and the signal would be going through trees most of the 
full path.
In 900Mhz, the difference between having the tower side over the 
tree line and below the tree line can be the difference between a 
quarter mile coverage and a 7 mile coverage in our market.
All be it, 700Mhz does have better NLOS propogation characteristics 
than 900 does.


I would have liked to see that height doubled.

However, admittedly, it will allow much better spectrum re-use in 
areas that have a limited number of channels available.

Spectrum reuse is one of the best ways to serve more people.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

- Original Message - 
From: Fred Goldstein mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com 
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org 
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 4:36 PM 
Subject: 

Re: [WISPA] FW: Transmit Antenna Height

2010-09-24 Thread Frank Crawford
 So, if we have a negative HAAT, is it correct that we are within the 
rules.
Say we have a location with -100 calculated HAAT and it can not be above 
+75.

Frank

On 9/24/2010 2:11 PM, Brian Webster wrote:


This rule as it is written states that the ground elevation not more 
than 75 meters HAAT. Remember that is the not actual ground elevation 
of the site, it is the HAAT calculation. See my other email with a 
HAAT report pasted within. My office at an elevation of 1420 ft AMSL 
actually has a negative HAAT value. I think people are 
misunderstanding how HAAT is calculated.




Brian

*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Fred Goldstein

*Sent:* Friday, September 24, 2010 3:37 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] FW: Transmit Antenna Height

At 9/24/2010 03:03 PM, you wrote:

Steve,

Here is another question to pose to the FCC.  Does the HAAT 
requirement include receive antennas.  In otherwords, can no clients 
be installed above the 76 meter HAAT level?



I see no mention of receive-only terminals, though I doubt anybody 
asked.  But if by receive you mean client (such as a Mode 1 CPE), then 
the rules seem to ban those entirely, not just APs, from high ground:
...We will therefore restrict fixed TV bands devices from operating 
at locations where the HAAT of the ground is greater than 76 meters; 
this will allow use of an antenna at a height of up to 30 meters above 
ground level to provide an antenna HAAT of 106 meters. Accordingly, we 
are specifying that a fixed TV bands device antenna may not be located 
at a site where the ground HAAT is greater than 75 meters (246 feet). 
The ground HAAT is to be calculated by the TV bands database using 
computational software employing the methodology in Section 73.684(d) 
of the rules to ensure that fixed devices comply with this requirement.


They cite to the IEEE's filing, but it didn't call for a ban; instead 
it called for wider protection distances based on HAAT:


13.We recommend that HAAT be used to determine the required separation 
distance from TV protected contours as described in the Table below.6 
The method for calculating HAAT should be the same as was employed in 
Part 90 to protect the TV service from PLMRS. In addition, we 
recommend no limits on the antenna height above ground for fixed base 
stations.7 We further recommend that no changes in the assumption of 
antenna heights of 10m AGL for fixed user terminals (CPEs) be made for 
the purpose of calculating the separation distance to the TV protected 
contour.


That would have been reasonable.


*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ 
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Fred Goldstein

*Sent:* Friday, September 24, 2010 2:57 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Transmit Antenna Height

At 9/24/2010 02:16 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:

There is one other benefit of this No body else will be able to 
install higher either.
Mounting lower to the ground, its more likely a WISP will be able to 
install their own tower, and no longer have to pay huge colocation 
costs on a commercial tower.

I predict more houses up on the hill, being the new TVWhitespace towers.
Although, aren't these low channel Whitespace omnis like giant, and 
weight a ton?


No, Tom, you missed the poison pill.  If somebody lives on a hill, 
more than 76 meters above average terrain, then they are banned from 
using fixed whitespace devices AT ALL.  Not at 4W.  Not at 1W.  Just 
the flea-power portable devices, which are basically wireless mics.


This new rule needs to be changed.



 Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -
From: Brian Webster mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
To: 'WISPA General List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Transmit Antenna Height
But what if you are able to use spectrum around 200 or 300 MHz? That 
certainly goes through trees.



Brian

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi

Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 7:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Transmit Antenna Height

Yeah, that really sucks. Many areas needing served have thick 
forest/trees easilly 70ft tall.
A 90ft height, just wouldn't allow enough of the signal to have open 
air, and the signal would be going through trees most of the full path.
In 900Mhz, the difference between having the tower side over the tree 
line and below the tree line can be the difference between a quarter 
mile coverage and a 7 mile coverage in our market.
All be it, 700Mhz does have better NLOS propogation characteristics 
than 900 does.


I would have liked to see that height doubled.

However, admittedly, it will allow much better spectrum re-use in 
areas that have a limited number of channels available.

Spectrum reuse is one of the best 

Re: [WISPA] FW: FIPS 140-2

2010-09-07 Thread Frank Crawford

 That gateway has nice pricing.


On 9/7/2010 4:18 PM, Bret Clark wrote:

Seems Meru has a solution or try googling 802.11 fips
http://www.merunetworks.com/corporate/press_releases/index.php?articleID=091609

On 09/07/2010 05:30 PM, Kevin Sullivan wrote:

For some reason, they say they can't use 802.16 -- it has to be 802.11.
Kevin

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*From:* Dave Rumore mailto:drum...@redlinecommunications.com
*To:* 'wireless@wispa.org' mailto:%27wirel...@wispa.org%27
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 07, 2010 2:24 PM
*Subject:* [WISPA] FW: FIPS 140-2

The Redline AN-80i is FIPS 140-2 certified in both PtP and PtMP
but they are 802.16 based not 802.11.  They are also the most
widely deployed COTS (commercial off the shelf) broadband radios
in US DoD today.  I hope this helps.

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*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Brad Belton
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 07, 2010 4:58 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] FIPS 140-2

Possibly RedLine or Alvarion, but I think they are only AES256. 
BridgeWave PtP has been our radio of choice for FIPS 140-2

requirements.

Best,

Brad

*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Kevin Sullivan
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 07, 2010 3:52 PM
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*Subject:* [WISPA] FIPS 140-2

We have a customer that is part of the Federal government, and
they are looking for a FIPS 140-2 certified 802.11-based PtMP
outdoor solution. Anyone have any ideas?

Kevin


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Re: [WISPA] OT -- ISS visual space phenomenon

2010-08-29 Thread Frank Crawford

 At our age we are the wonder..

On 8/29/2010 7:49 PM, Robert West wrote:


Yeah, 13 year old boy was all hot for it.  Watched it a few years ago 
with my now 16 year old.  Was cool to see it through his eyes.  Me, 
just another moving light!


Sucks to get old and lose the sense of wonder...

*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Mike

*Sent:* Saturday, August 28, 2010 9:31 PM
*To:* 'WISPA General List'
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] OT -- ISS visual space phenomenon

Beautiful pass of the ISS here.  Share the experience with a kid if 
you can.  Follow the link below.




*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman

*Sent:* Saturday, August 28, 2010 4:10 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] OT -- ISS visual space phenomenon

Cool, thanks!

On Aug 28, 2010 5:07 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com
mailto:m...@aweiowa.com wrote:


http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/sightings/SSapplications/Post/JavaSSOP/JavaSSOP.html

I have been enjoying showing people around here the ISS.  Since
they have added so much hardware to the Space Station, it has
become one of the spectacles of the night sky.  If you are in the
right position for a pass, the ISS is the third brightest object
in the night sky after the sun and moon.  Yes, it's way brighter
than Venus.  Follow the link above to calculate when and where you
should look.  At 8:15 tonight we have a pass going over 70 degrees
which will put it almost straight overhead.

Friendly Regards,

Mike

Mike Gilchrist

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mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jerry Richardson
*Sent:* Saturday, August 28, 2010 11:50 AM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] DC Remote reboot?

I would not want the ability to change the voltage remotely.

Switch to voltage too low and lose connectivity. Switch to a
voltage too high and you might let the smoke out.

- Jerry

*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org
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[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG
*Sent:* Friday, August 27, 2010 8:10 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] DC Remote reboot?

Oh, so it doesnt have to be direct AC in?

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com
mailto:m...@tc3net.com wrote:

Yes, I've got several of them deployed, very nice. It will run off
AC as well, and is outdoor hardened.

Only negatives, voltage isn't changeable per port via the web
interface, manual toggle only, and they need a version with more
ports.

Regards
Michael Baird

Inscape LPS-1000 POE Switch, with reboot capabilites.  It will run
off 48VDC.  Five ports.

http://www.connectronics.com/inscape/PoE%20Switch.htm

Phil

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net
mailto:li...@mtin.net wrote:

   Does anyone know of a product which is a POE power supply in
addition to having remote reboot capabilities?  Imagine this
scenario.  You have DC running up a 400 foot tower.  You have a
DCV switch at the top with DC POE's.  The switch is not POE but
external POEs plugged into a distribution block.  In otherwords
there is no AC running up the tower.  Are there any devices which
can interrupt the DC power via remote management to reboot a
single device?

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Re: [WISPA] Electrical Question.......

2010-08-13 Thread Frank Crawford

Thanks Ralph for clearing up my confusion about 3 phase metering.
Frank

On 8/13/2010 6:46 AM, Ralph wrote:


If you don't NEEED three phase, don't install it.

The metering is more complex, there are 3 transformers, and the basic 
monthly bill is probably more expensive as they pass their costs of 
the complexity on to you.


Someone wrote about the Demand Meter with the peak indicator, and I 
wanted to clear up one thing that was said.


Demand meters usually work on a 15 or 50 (and rarely 60) minute 
period. If you exceed the highest peak of use during any of these 
periods, your billing rate ratchets up.


This rate remains for a period, sometimes as long as 13 months, during 
which your per KWH charge is higher.


It does not cause you to be billed the same total amount whether or 
not you use it- it only affects the RATE.


These are called demand charges and supposedly go to offset the cost 
of the extra cost they incurred to handle your little spike.


I used to be the lead Field Engineer for a company that specialized in 
reading the meter pulses and predicting the demand minute by minute so 
that the system could shed load in order to keep from hitting a new 30 
minute demand.  It was really amazing- I could set the demand limit 
and then watch as it cycled fans, compressors, lights and other energy 
users to keep that demand down. We even built a box that controlled 
the load on big A/C chillers, which basically turned the water 
temperature up a degree or so until the prediction went down.  This 
gear was in large buildings: hospitals, schools, factories, arenas, etc.


The worst case I ever saw (or the easiest one to sell) was a Hercules 
plant in Louisiana, where a single peak overage cost them 0ne million 
dollars over the next 13 months!


Ralph

*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Robert West

*Sent:* Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:32 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* [WISPA] Electrical Question...

Putting together a new NOC.  The new NOC is in an older warehouse and 
we ripped out ALL the crazy wiring and the multiple electrical 
panels.  Total gut job.  Installed a single phase electrical panel for 
the retail and service area in the front but we have three phase 
coming into the building.  Electrician uncle Dude, 80+ years, tells me 
that three phase protects against power surges since it adds another 
transformer.


My question is, would installing a three phase panel for the NOC be a 
proactive thing?  Advantageous against the great lightning and idiotic 
power company Godz?  (GODZ Rock And Roll Machine)


Old location was all three phase and we never had one lick of 
trouble   Not one.  Would this be the reason or would it be just a 
stroke of luck, one that didn't involve the lottery  Figures.


Bob-





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Re: [WISPA] Electrical Question.......

2010-08-12 Thread Frank Crawford
3 phase metering (as in how much you pay the utility )is done different 
than single phase, I would check with your utility, also check your 
initial costs of 3 phase equipment - meter base and entrance panel. How 
I understand the billing in our area is, 3 phase meter has a needle that 
is moved to the max use and you are billed that amount whether the elec 
is on or off. Just check, it may not be important but then again.


Frank

On 8/12/2010 8:31 PM, Robert West wrote:


Putting together a new NOC.  The new NOC is in an older warehouse and 
we ripped out ALL the crazy wiring and the multiple electrical 
panels.  Total gut job.  Installed a single phase electrical panel for 
the retail and service area in the front but we have three phase 
coming into the building.  Electrician uncle Dude, 80+ years, tells me 
that three phase protects against power surges since it adds another 
transformer.


My question is, would installing a three phase panel for the NOC be a 
proactive thing?  Advantageous against the great lightning and idiotic 
power company Godz?  (GODZ Rock And Roll Machine)


Old location was all three phase and we never had one lick of 
trouble   Not one.  Would this be the reason or would it be just a 
stroke of luck, one that didn't involve the lottery  Figures.


Bob-





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Re: [WISPA] Electrical Question.......

2010-08-12 Thread Frank Crawford
Cameron;
I was currious, how does your monthly billing work where you are located.
Frank

On 8/12/2010 10:20 PM, cc...@dot11net.com wrote:
 Three phase does not provide any more or less protection against
 lightning. I have three phase power to my house...lucky me...live in a 60
 year old house. I, and one other guy on my block who still has three phase
 power, both lost our AC compressors in a lightning storm on the same night
 two summers ago. Everyone on single phase...no problem. Three phase does
 have some advantages especially with efficiency with high current devices
 like compressors and such, but it does not provide inherent protection
 against power surges like lightning strikes.

 Cameron


 3 phase metering (as in how much you pay the utility )is done different
 than single phase, I would check with your utility, also check your
 initial costs of 3 phase equipment - meter base and entrance panel. How
 I understand the billing in our area is, 3 phase meter has a needle that
 is moved to the max use and you are billed that amount whether the elec
 is on or off. Just check, it may not be important but then again.

 Frank

 On 8/12/2010 8:31 PM, Robert West wrote:
  
 Putting together a new NOC.  The new NOC is in an older warehouse and
 we ripped out ALL the crazy wiring and the multiple electrical
 panels.  Total gut job.  Installed a single phase electrical panel for
 the retail and service area in the front but we have three phase
 coming into the building.  Electrician uncle Dude, 80+ years, tells me
 that three phase protects against power surges since it adds another
 transformer.

 My question is, would installing a three phase panel for the NOC be a
 proactive thing?  Advantageous against the great lightning and idiotic
 power company Godz?  (GODZ Rock And Roll Machine)

 Old location was all three phase and we never had one lick of
 trouble   Not one.  Would this be the reason or would it be just a
 stroke of luck, one that didn't involve the lottery  Figures.

 Bob-




 
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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Cap Implementation

2010-05-07 Thread Frank Crawford
Matt;
Thanks for sharing your information.

Frank

On 5/6/2010 11:11 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
 Since there has been a lot of discussion about bandwidth caps on this
 list recently, I thought that I would share the one that we recently
 implemented, along with some details on how we are enforcing it and how
 we established the caps.

 Going back to day 1, we have had a 3gig cap on broadband customers with
 a $25/gig surcharge for anyone exceeding that amount. When we were using
 all StarOS V2, the radius accounting information was keeping fairly
 close track of the bandwidth per customer. Fast forward six years, and
 that cap was so low as to be a joke -- and we had not been enforcing it.
 It was also very difficult to collect accurate accounting data - StarOS
 evolved and the radius accounting became useless in version 3, so some
 access points were tracking it and others were not. We also have a few
 Tranzeo and Mikrotik access points in the system and no good way to
 collect the individual subscriber download information from them either.

 After looking at several different options for collecting the bandwidth
 traffic information, we decided to use open source tools to develop our
 own solution. We installed a switch between our core and edge routers --
 behind the NAT so that it could see all customer's IP addresses -- and
 mirrored a port to our new collection server. The collection server is a
 Linux box running CentOS 5.2. The linux box is using softflowd-0.98 to
 collect the netflows, and flow-tools-v-0.68.5 to look at the data. Daily
 reports are mailed out to our techs list to show the customer who are
 nearing or over their caps. A customer page was created that shows the
 customers how much bandwidth they have used, how much they have left
 before charges and what their overage charges are (if any). The customer
 page also shows their historical usage trend for the last 12 months --
 starting with April 2010 when we started collecting the information.
 Starting on June 1, we will bill overages as a separate charge to the
 customers on the 1^st of the month, regardless of their billing
 anniversary.

 The process of implementing this was quite interesting. Out of 2000+
 customers, 80 used more than 10 gigs for the month. One customer - a 1
 meg subscriber at the far eastern edge of our network, behind seven
 wireless hops and on an 802.11b AP -- downloaded 140gig. Another one, on
 the far western side of our network, downloaded 110gig. We called them
 and found out that they were watching a ton of online video. We
 discovered a county government connection that was around 100gig --
 mostly because someone in the sheriff's department was pounding for
 BitTorrent files from 1am to 7am in the morning, and sometimes crashing
 their firewall machine because of the traffic. We also discovered that
 there was 80-100meg of stateless udp type traffic traversing our routed
 network and getting to our core router. Revised firewall rules on the
 APs fixed this problem. The majority of the rest of the subs on the list
 were either online video watchers, people with virus problems or who had
 left filesharing programs running on their computers.

 After reviewing the usage records, we decided on the following cap sizes
 for our plans:

 Package Monthly Download Cap

 384k 10 gigabytes

 640k 10 gigabytes

 1 meg 20 gigabytes

 2 meg 40 gigabytes

 3 meg 50 gigabytes

 4 meg 60 gigabytes

 8 meg 80 gigabytes

 Additional capacity over cap $1 per gigabyte over the cap

 I feel that these caps are more than generous, and should have a minimal
 effect on the majority of our customers. With our backbone consumption
 per customer increasing, implementing caps of some kind became a
 necessity. I am not looking at the caps as a new profit center -- they
 are a deterrent as much as anything. It will provide an incentive for
 customers to upgrade to a faster plan with a higher cap, or take their
 download habits to a competitor and chew up someone else's bandwidth.

 This has been an educational experience, and probably one that we should
 have gone through a couple of years ago. I would like to thank the
 people on the WISPA and Butch Evans' Mikrotik lists for their input
 while we were developing this system.

 Matt Larsen

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Re: [WISPA] You're going to love this... New IRS rules

2010-04-28 Thread Frank Crawford
It looks to me like there might have been a change ralph

On 4/28/2010 7:48 PM, Ralph wrote:
 This is not correct. Please don't spread FUD.
 Check with your CPA to find out who and when you need to 1099.
 Only Individuals get 1099s, and only for services- not merchandise.


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of MDK
 Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:40 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] You're going to love this... New IRS rules

 http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2010/04/26/costly-irs-mandate-slipped-into-he
 alth-bill/

 It requires 1099's for EVERY entity you do more than $600 business with a
 year.

 Gas station.  Walmart, your landlord, a $700 used car or truck.Ebay
 purchases, ALL require 1099's now if you go over $600 a year.

 That's almost enough for me to throw up my hands and say I quit.

 Frankly, we should all just quit.   For a week.   Or a month.Call up the

 White House and say you want it so bad, well now you got it, we quit.
 When about 50 million of us do that, perhaps the administration will realize

 it should consult someone besides insane marxists as it concerns business
 and economics.




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Re: [WISPA] Remotely Adjusted Dish Mount

2010-04-25 Thread Frank Crawford
TV antenna rotator

Robert West wrote:
 I recently acquired an 80 foot Super Heavy Duty Will-Burt telescopic mast 
 with the goal for dual use of A) Site Survey and B) Emergency use during AP 
 failure.

 I'm looking for a dish mount that can be remotely adjusted while the mast is 
 extended.  I haven't seen anything in my searches, wanted to know if anyone 
 is using such a thing or have any recommendations of something they have seen.

 It's a cool toy so I gots to at least make the wife think I'm really gonna 
 use it.  

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Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids

2010-04-20 Thread Frank Crawford
Now there's a vision i could have lived with out. LOL

Josh Luthman wrote:
 I like that idea way more then living comfortably.  Sitting at home on the
 couch naked eating Cheetos provides minimal benefit to society.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
 that counts.”
 --- Winston Churchill


 On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote:

   
 Yes, it depends on what you put in.

 Remember that unemployment is generally what you put in, to a point. The
 extensions that the feds put out are actually loans to your state that get
 paid back via unemployment taxes that you pay later.

 The system works as a basic safety net. I don't mind it.. I just sweat when
 I am on it.

 ryan

 On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 
 Unemployment is dependent on your previous job from what I understand.
   
  He
 
 was in the Marines.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
   
 continue
 
 that counts.”
 --- Winston Churchill


 On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote:

   
 How much is unemployment in OH?

 I max out here at 33% of my normal salary. I tell you I sweat and
 
 sweat
 
 trying to pick up my next gig.

 ryan

 On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 
 My roommate is on unemployment.  How do you feel it sucks?

 He goes to school ~12 hours a week and gets paid more then I take for
 salary
 with tuition paid.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
   
 continue
 
 that counts.”
 --- Winston Churchill


 On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com
   
 wrote:
 
 Obviously you have never been on unemployment.

 It sucks.

 ryan

 On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
 
 k...@wavelinc.com
 
 wrote:

 
 I heard that un-employment benefits recently got extended to 100
   
 weeks
 
 Let's give the masses' more reason to not go find a job.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
   
 wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
   
 On
   
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:33 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids

 Wow, you're 22 and think like that?!?! I thought that mindset was
   
 dated!
   
 Just come help with the family business and I'll make sure you
   
 eat,
   
 have a place to sleep,  get a percentage of the profits :)

 On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
   
 What would my allowance be with no chores?

 Another big thing...I never got an allowance.  I worked for my
 
 money
 
 (odd jobs, helping people out, etc.)Before Rick that is.

 IMO it's crap.  Giving a child money to do what is expected
 
 (help
 
 cleaning and keeping up the house) just makes no sense.  Both
 
 my
 
 parents came from a farm - work all day every day and in turn
 
 food
   
 and
   
 a bed.

 On 4/19/10, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Can I adopt you? :)

 On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
   
 Keep in mind I am 22 and have no kids.  This is my personal
 
 point
   
 of
   
 view.
   
 My parents never set guidelines or many rules (just the basic
 
 things).
 
 I have never done any drugs.  Been offered and been around
 
 them
 
 more
   
 then
   
 enough.  Never smoked a cigarette in my life.  Never drank
 
 until
   
 I
 
 was...very close to 21.  Never got in any trouble at school.
 
  My
   
 first
 
 job
   
 led to the second job/career I have today.  I enjoy my life,
 
 the
   
 people
 
 around me and the things I have.

 My partner has 3 teenage girls.  He is extremely strict.  One
 
 of
   
 them
   
 gets
   
 in to trouble, disobeys, does wrong things, etc.  A friend
 
 I
 
 had
 
 in
   
 high
   
 school was in the same position.  I know where that 

Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?)

2010-04-16 Thread Frank Crawford
http://www.imagestreamsolutions.com/Network_Cards/PCI_Cards.html

Josh Luthman wrote:
 What everyone is saying is the Cisco is not Imagestream.

 I think we can all be very very very thankful of that.

 It's an Imagestream policy not to put in third party parts.  Follow it
 or don't, it is your choice.

 I will like to know what the part costs from Imagestream as Newegg charges 
 $45.

 On 4/16/10, Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com wrote:
   
 Last I heard Cisco don't provide free firmware upgrade/warranty especially
 on resold products unless specific IOS license is purchased with the
 reselling.
 Cisco don't provide free support period.

 With the myriad of PC based cards out there I don't blame IS for not
 providing warranty support on third party cards installed in their routers.
 How do you know that card isn't a cheap knock off card. Further even if it's
 not a knock off card maybe the revision of the card is newer or older then
 what IS provides and have tested out to work with their software. So should
 they then support a card they didn't make anything at all from selling and
 that they have not tested to work in their software solution? What if they
 came to the conclusion that specific card don't work well at all and simply
 decided to not offer this particular card and you buy and install this card
 in your IS router why should they support and warranty their router just to
 track it down to a non certified third party card being installed in your
 router? If they find this IMO it wouldn't be too much to ask for
 compensation for the technical support assistance you where given on a none
 IS product.

 Just like most ISPs they have their demarcation point at the Ethernet side
 on their CPE when they provide the CPE. So if there are issues with the
 client they do testing of the Ethernet side on the CPE and if everything
 works out well and the customer want you to trouble shoot further to see
 what is wrong with their computer or router almost all ISPs I talked to
 charge for it or they go so far as provide free broadband routers that they
 trust. I'm sure there are those that set themselves apart and will help out
 for free especially if the client is a higher $$ client or the client has a
 router the ISP trust in and like.

 I see little difference between these here. IS provide a boxed solution that
 can be expanded. They support and warrant their products, their cards they
 provide for the products because they know they work with their hardware and
 their software. If it doesn't they will fix it. Where is the incentive for
 them to fix a problem with a NIC card they didn't sell and earned any money
 for? When they sold the router they have appropriate margin to handle
 warranty and support on that particular product. If you want another card
 you might pay a bit of a premium over a third party card but that is the
 extra you pay for the extended warranty and support to handle this product
 as well.

 Just my 2 cents.

 / Eje

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Brad Belton
 Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 11:13 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?)

 I completely agree if the card installed is 3rd party and completely
 different than what Imagestream, Cisco or any OEM sells.

 The point is    If the card is exactly the same as OEM, however being
 sourced from somewhere else other than the OEM, I don't see why the OEM
 should get their panties all in a wad and void the warranty on the
 product.


 Brad


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen
 Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 11:00 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?)

 Gotta disagree Brad- show me the price point differences between any
 Cisco and IS that are comporable - don't forget TCO for OS upgrades
 etc. Are you suggesting Cisco provides a cheaper HW upgrade solution?

 This is like pulling your car into the oil change station, handing the
 guy 5 qt of your own oil that you purchased for a few bucks cheaper
 and a new air filter.. Doesn't work that way- everyone needs a
 business model that's profitable.

 Thanks,
 ‘S

 ---
 Sent mobile (and probably one handed while driving!)

 On Apr 16, 2010, at 8:50 AM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote:

 
 I may be wrong on this, but I doubt Cisco will void your warranty if
 you buy
 an expansion card (exact same as you could buy from Cisco directly)
 and
 install it in your Cisco router.

 I'm not suggesting Imagestream should be onboard with a user
 installing
 something other than what Imagestream sells directly, but if the
 card the
 end user installs is exactly the samewhat's the problem?

 Imagestream doesn't keep record of how a product was configured
 before it
 was sold?  So, if there is an expansion card added Imagestream can
 simply
 

Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?)

2010-04-15 Thread Frank Crawford
Tom, You might want to check if that imagestream 2006 MoBo has pci-e 
slots in it

Josh Luthman wrote:
 You just saved many people hundreds or thousands :)

 On 4/15/10, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:
   
 Yup... that's the one.

 Travis


 Josh Luthman wrote:
 
 Maybe this one?

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106036

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
 that counts.”
 --- Winston Churchill


 On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com
 wrote:


   
 Thanks guys!
   - Original Message -
  From: Travis Johnson
  To: Tom Sharples ; WISPA General List
  Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?)


  We installed several Intel Gigabit cards in our old Imagestream and they
 worked great. They were the $40 Intel desktop cards.

  Travis
  Microserv


  Tom Sharples wrote:
 Just received the imagestream gateway router (vintage 2006 or so) ,
 unfortunately it's equipped with 4-port T1/E1 cards, not ethernet cards
 (sigh). Does anyone know if these will work with standard (e.g. 3com,
 intel,
 whatever) 10/100 ethernet adaptors, or do we have to use a proprietary
 card?

 Thanks,

 Tom S.

 - Original Message -
 From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 12:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?


 Well, for that many NIC included, you got a steal.
 A single 4port Intel oem Gig card PCI-e costs $430 new.

 (Actually that is probably not true, cause its probably an older model
 that
 doesn't have PCI-E nic cards.)

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 2:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?


 I picked up the Gateway model, equipped with nine 4-port ethernet
 expansion
 boards, for $625 on Ebay. Seems like a good deal altho I don't know what
 this model costs new with the added ports. Way more than we really need.
 I'm
 looking forward to trying it out tho.

 Tom S.

 - Original Message -
 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?


 Call support and they can fix your ImageStream issues.  Need to push a
 little bit and use the phone.  To this day I've not had a response to
 my emails without a phone call.

 On 4/6/10, Scott Lambert lamb...@lambertfam.org wrote:
  On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 11:37:54PM -0400, Josh Luthman wrote:
I really think you'll love ImageStream...
  I don't mind the three living ImageStream TransPort routers we
 inherited.  Once I changed the editor to default to vi, I was pretty
 happy.

 I am not much of a fan of the interface configuration, though it is
 currently more flexible and transparent than pfSense for multiple
 subnets on the same interface.  The shellcmd plugin lets me have a GUI
 to get around the current inadaquacy of the interface configuration GUI
 of pfSense 1.2.3.

 I do find that I will make a change to the default route on the
 Interface Configuration file; it will reload sand; and I will have to
 go to bash and route delete default, route add default gateway newip
 manually.  Or, I will put a new subnet on an interface and can't get
 OSPFd to talk on that interface until I reboot the box.

 Just stopping and starting OSPFd didn't work.  I don't know if that is
 an indication that I have bad hardware or what.  Using suspect gear for
 your first experience with a platform is probably not the best situation
 for figuring out what is what.  The other 4 inherited TransPorts all
 have one or more blown ethernet ports so I haven't been able to use
 them.  I can't point to anything on the other three that screams I'm
 busted.

 Having to reboot is really annoying.  Having to use the shell to
 manually apply desired configuration changes, annoying, but at least
 they give me the tools to do it. :-) I like flexibility.

 The biggest problem I have with going whole hog for the ImageStreams is,
 it would take me much longer to train guys to run the ImageStreams than
 it will take to train them to run pfSense.  The secondary problem is
 cost :

 pfSense on Alix:  $204 3 eth
 pfSense on soekris:   $275-350 4 eth

 ImageStream on TransPort: $900 new 4 eth
  $600 e-bay.  3 eth

 We only do about 20 to 30 Mbps where I will have these deployed.  More
 horsepower would be wasted.  The BGP running pfSense box is a bit
 beefier than the Alix boxes, but didn't quite cost as much as a new
 TransPort.

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Scott Lambert
 lamb...@lambertfam.orgwrote:

  On Mon, Apr 05, 

Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?)

2010-04-15 Thread Frank Crawford
Also ENU inc off airport way stocks both PCI and PCIe.

http://www.enuinc.com/



Frank Crawford wrote:
 Tom, You might want to check if that imagestream 2006 MoBo has pci-e 
 slots in it

 Josh Luthman wrote:
   
 You just saved many people hundreds or thousands :)

 On 4/15/10, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:
   
 
 Yup... that's the one.

 Travis


 Josh Luthman wrote:
 
   
 Maybe this one?

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106036

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
 that counts.”
 --- Winston Churchill


 On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com
 wrote:


   
 
 Thanks guys!
   - Original Message -
  From: Travis Johnson
  To: Tom Sharples ; WISPA General List
  Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?)


  We installed several Intel Gigabit cards in our old Imagestream and they
 worked great. They were the $40 Intel desktop cards.

  Travis
  Microserv


  Tom Sharples wrote:
 Just received the imagestream gateway router (vintage 2006 or so) ,
 unfortunately it's equipped with 4-port T1/E1 cards, not ethernet cards
 (sigh). Does anyone know if these will work with standard (e.g. 3com,
 intel,
 whatever) 10/100 ethernet adaptors, or do we have to use a proprietary
 card?

 Thanks,

 Tom S.

 - Original Message -
 From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 12:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?


 Well, for that many NIC included, you got a steal.
 A single 4port Intel oem Gig card PCI-e costs $430 new.

 (Actually that is probably not true, cause its probably an older model
 that
 doesn't have PCI-E nic cards.)

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 2:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?


 I picked up the Gateway model, equipped with nine 4-port ethernet
 expansion
 boards, for $625 on Ebay. Seems like a good deal altho I don't know what
 this model costs new with the added ports. Way more than we really need.
 I'm
 looking forward to trying it out tho.

 Tom S.

 - Original Message -
 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?


 Call support and they can fix your ImageStream issues.  Need to push a
 little bit and use the phone.  To this day I've not had a response to
 my emails without a phone call.

 On 4/6/10, Scott Lambert lamb...@lambertfam.org wrote:
  On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 11:37:54PM -0400, Josh Luthman wrote:
I really think you'll love ImageStream...
  I don't mind the three living ImageStream TransPort routers we
 inherited.  Once I changed the editor to default to vi, I was pretty
 happy.

 I am not much of a fan of the interface configuration, though it is
 currently more flexible and transparent than pfSense for multiple
 subnets on the same interface.  The shellcmd plugin lets me have a GUI
 to get around the current inadaquacy of the interface configuration GUI
 of pfSense 1.2.3.

 I do find that I will make a change to the default route on the
 Interface Configuration file; it will reload sand; and I will have to
 go to bash and route delete default, route add default gateway newip
 manually.  Or, I will put a new subnet on an interface and can't get
 OSPFd to talk on that interface until I reboot the box.

 Just stopping and starting OSPFd didn't work.  I don't know if that is
 an indication that I have bad hardware or what.  Using suspect gear for
 your first experience with a platform is probably not the best situation
 for figuring out what is what.  The other 4 inherited TransPorts all
 have one or more blown ethernet ports so I haven't been able to use
 them.  I can't point to anything on the other three that screams I'm
 busted.

 Having to reboot is really annoying.  Having to use the shell to
 manually apply desired configuration changes, annoying, but at least
 they give me the tools to do it. :-) I like flexibility.

 The biggest problem I have with going whole hog for the ImageStreams is,
 it would take me much longer to train guys to run the ImageStreams than
 it will take to train them to run pfSense.  The secondary problem is
 cost :

 pfSense on Alix:  $204 3 eth
 pfSense on soekris:   $275-350 4 eth

 ImageStream on TransPort: $900 new 4 eth
  $600 e-bay.  3 eth

 We only do about 20 to 30 Mbps where I will have these deployed.  More
 horsepower would be wasted.  The BGP running pfSense box is a bit
 beefier than the Alix boxes, but didn't quite cost

Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids

2010-04-14 Thread Frank Crawford
Speak firmly and borrow that big stick from Roosevelt when necessary. 
Fear of God is useless but Fear of Dad is profound. I raised 5 kids, 
youngest is 32, still works, no stick necessary, they just know where i 
keep it.

Frank

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 Hi All,

 Here's the scenario.  My kids are expressly forbidden from having email 
 addresses outside my domain.  They are forbidden from having myspace, 
 facebook etc. sites.

 If they want an email, fine by me, but it's one that *I* can check on.

 If they want a web site, fine by me, but make it a real one that *I* can 
 delete things from.

 I'm trying to teach them to NOT do or say things on the internet that might 
 bite them in the butt later.  The days of people eventually forgetting the 
 stupidity of youth or passion are long gone.

 Anyway, my 13 year old has a myspace account.  He used a hotmail email 
 address to get it.  He had permission to use neither of them.  I finally 
 found out about the myspace account and went in to check out what he'd been 
 saying.  His trash and sent messages had both been erased between when I got 
 the password out of him and when I had time to check on it.  (I didn't know 
 that his zune, a video player would ALSO allow him to get on the net and 
 work on his page, talk to his friends etc.  deep sigh)

 So, I contacted myspace, using his account, and asked for all of the deleted 
 information.  I explained that I was the father of a minor and that he had 
 no permission to use their site and I wanted to know what was being hidden 
 from me.  I gave my full name AND phone number as well as my email address.

 They were very good about contacting me quickly about this issue.  However 
 they flatly refused to provide me with any information!  They had NO 
 proof of age etc. on the account.  Nothing to verify that the child was over 
 18 etc.  And *I* as the PARENT am prevented from accessing the account 
 information!  go get it from your teen is basically what I was told.

 WTF is this???  Absolutly amazing.

 So, what do the rest of you do to try to protect or control your kids these 
 days?

 thanks
 marlon



 
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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Approved Ad] $2, 750 Worth of WISP Management Gear for $499

2010-03-19 Thread Frank Crawford
http://www.ebox-platform.com/
This is a better solution for the money.

RickG wrote:
 Does anyone have one yet?

 On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 5:56 PM, BlueMesh sa...@bluemesh.net wrote:

   
 *Which Would You Prefer to Manage Your WISP?* *Bandwidth
 Controller. $500 - $1,000* *Services
 Router.. $475 - $1,200* *Network Access
 Controller... $595 - $695 + $50 / month* *MT SNMP/Monitoring
 Router $300 - $800* *Or* *All That Gear Packed Inside a 5 x 7
 Indoor Router for only $499!* *Click here http://www.bluemesh.net to see
 the BlueMesh Networks Managed Router in action. * *Once the web page
 loads, click on the button titled See Live Demonstration of Meshview
 Administrative Features. If you like what you see, order yours TODAY!* *
 sa...@bluemesh.net or call Toll FREE (866) 630-4689* *As a new Vendor
 Member of WISPA (March 2010), we couldn't think of a better way to introduce
 ourselves than by bringing WISPA Members the latest in Network Management
 solutions... at an affordable price.* ***We were fighting several pieces
 of equipment, all running different firmware, each with their own
 configuration set. Then we came across BlueMesh Networks Managed Router. Our
 job managing the WISP suddenly became simpler, easier, and a lot less
 expensive. We highly recommend BlueMesh gear to WISP Owners/Operators.* 
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 Neiwert, Owner Wilderness Wireless, Southern Idaho WISP
 *

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Re: [WISPA] USF Changes

2010-03-07 Thread Frank Crawford
Nice call RickG

RickG wrote:
 I repeat, thats still a tax.

 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Brian Webster
 bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com wrote:
   
 But USF comes from the ratepayers of the telecom services, not tax dollars.



 Brian


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 2:50 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF Changes


 As a WISP, I resent the idea that my tax dollars may be used to compete with
 me.
 As a taxpayer, at what point will the government realize we cant
 afford all this?
 -RickG

 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 FCC to propose revamping Universal Service Fund
 AP


 By JOELLE TESSLER, AP Technology Writer Joelle Tessler, Ap Technology
 Writer – Fri Mar 5, 5:25 pm ET

 WASHINGTON – Federal regulators trying to bring high-speed Internet
 connections to all Americans will propose tapping the government
 program that now subsidizes telephone service in poor and rural areas.

 The Federal Communications Commission will include a proposal to
 revamp the Universal Service Fund as part of a national broadband plan
 due to Congress on March 17. Although the proposal itself has been
 expected for months, Friday's announcement offered the first solid
 details.

 The FCC said it envisions transforming the Universal Service program
 over the next decade to pay for high-speed Internet access instead of
 the traditional voice services that it currently finances. The
 proposal would create a Connect America fund inside the Universal
 Service program to subsidize broadband, and a Mobility Fund to expand
 the reach of so-called 3G, or third-generation, wireless networks.

 It's time to migrate this 20th-century program, said Blair Levin,
 the FCC official overseeing the broadband plan, which was mandated by
 last year's stimulus bill. We need to move the current system from
 the traditional networks to the new networks.

 The Universal Service Fund was established to ensure that all
 Americans have access to a basic telephone line. Today, the program
 subsidizes phone service for the poor, funds Internet access in
 schools and libraries and pays for high-speed connections for rural
 health clinics. But its biggest function is to bring telephone service
 to remote, sparsely populated corners of the country, where it is
 uneconomical for the private companies to build networks.

 Funding for the $8-billion-a-year program comes from a surcharge that
 businesses and consumers pay on their long-distance bills. That
 revenue base is shrinking, placing the Universal Service Fund under
 mounting pressure even as the FCC seeks to use it to subsidize
 broadband.

 The agency's plan will lay out several options to pay for the
 proposals it outlined Friday, including one that would require no
 additional money from Congress and one that would accelerate the
 construction of broadband networks if Congress approves a one-time
 injection of $9 billion.

 Either way, Levin stressed, the proposal would not increase the annual
 size of the Universal Service Fund, but rather would take money from
 subsidies now used for voice services.

 The FCC would also seek to save money by subsidizing no more than one
 broadband provider in an areas. Some critics of the program have
 complained that wireless companies now overlay landline systems with
 new networks considered duplicative.

 Levin said Connect America would not favor one technology over
 another, be it cable, DSL or wireless.

 The FCC proposal also envisions revamping the multibillion-dollar
 intercarrier compensation system, the Byzantine menu of charges that
 telecom carriers pay to access each other's networks and connect
 calls. Any changes to the Universal Service Fund would also require
 changes to intercarrier compensation because rural phone companies
 tend to rely heavily on both funding sources.

 The FCC's latest proposals will be part of a sweeping national roadmap
 for bringing universal, affordable broadband connections to all
 Americans.

 Although the plan is due on March 17, the agency has already begun
 releasing details, including a proposal to make more wireless spectrum
 available for mobile broadband connections by letting television
 broadcasters and others voluntarily cede some airwaves.

 Some of the proposals will likely require congressional action, while
 others might be up to the FCC to implement.

 Yahoo article:


   
 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100305/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_fcc_universal_service
 ;_ylt=AgSGtpiLKKQbXooR3LKvT.cPLBIF;_ylu=X3oDMTMzNGcwMmcyBGFzc2V0Ay9hcC8yMDEw
 MDMwNS9hcF9vbl9oaV90ZS91c190ZWNfZmNjX3VuaXZlcnNhbF9zZXJ2aWNlBHBvcwM3BHNlYwN5
 bl90b21ic3RvbmUEc2xrA2ZjY3RvcHJvcG9zZQ--
 
 --
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 Argon Technologies Inc.
 POB 875
 Greenville, TX 75403-0875
 903-455-5036


 

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality

2010-02-04 Thread Frank Crawford
YES

Jack Unger wrote:
 I trust that government will be able to keep up just fine. Do you 
 support the alternative of making government so small that you can drown 
 it in a bathtub?

 Glenn Kelley wrote:
   
 Title II of the Communications Act—the section that regulates 
 telecommunications common carriers is now being considered by the FCC to 
 oversee broadband.  FCC Commissioner Robert M. McDowell during a talk he 
 gave to the Free State Foundation asked:  (see First Do No Harm: A broadband 
 plan for Amercia)
 “Exactly what kind of companies might get tangled up into this regulatory 
 Rubik’s Cube?…Any Internet company that offers a voice application?” … “With 
 this newfound authority, why stop at voice apps? Isn’t voice just another 
 type of data app? As the distinction between network operators and 
 application providers continues to blur at an eye-popping rate, how will the 
 government be able to keep up?”


 Much more on the blog:   www.HostMedic.com -- 
 _
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Re: [WISPA] About Hulu and Netflix and youtube... increaseddata delivery is here to stay.

2009-11-13 Thread Frank Crawford
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/105483

sa...@michianawireless.com wrote:
 Hmm great comcast plans on launching there own on demand service now...

 http://www.cedmagazine.com/News-Comcast-On-Demand-Online-live-next-month-111309.aspx;

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Re: [WISPA] About Hulu and Netflix and youtube... increaseddata delivery is here to stay.

2009-11-13 Thread Frank Crawford
I want a piece of the 5 cent a Gig bandwidth, if I don't have to carry 
it in a bucket.

Josh Luthman wrote:
 Ok where's my stupid stick.  Some of these people need to be knocked out.

 I like this post:

 ...and so begins the war...
 between companies like netflix and ISPs. Both making contrary claims on the
 cost of bandwidth.

 Who knows the price of bandwidth (to the last mile) more - ISPs or Netflix?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 Suite 1337
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 --- Albert Einstein


 On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Frank Crawford mogoo...@gmx.com wrote:

   
 http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/105483

 sa...@michianawireless.com wrote:
 
 Hmm great comcast plans on launching there own on demand service now...

 
   
 http://www.cedmagazine.com/News-Comcast-On-Demand-Online-live-next-month-111309.aspx
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Nanostation Loco2

2009-11-07 Thread Frank Crawford
I was curious Bob did she say you were right or was that you talking 
out loud. :-P

Robert West wrote:
 Portability is one thing to consider.  He wants to use it as a client from
 his truck to open networks.  I tried using the NS2 for the same reason but
 it was a pain in the butt due to the size and the plastic pipe mount stand
 offs on the rear of the NS2.  I suppose if you could make up a magnetic
 mount with a short mast to put the thing on it would be better.

 My wife.  Went to Mallorca Spain this past August to visit her
 mother.  Wanted to take a NS2 with her so that she could pick up open
 networks while there. (Mom is over 80 and has no want for internet) I say,
 take a Loco instead, why ya want to lug a bulky NS2 all the way to Spain?
 But no, female...  She takes a NS2.  She conceded when she returned that the
 Loco was the better option.  Too bulky for taking from place to place.
 (Airport security was curious about that thing, by the way)

 The bonus is that she never removed the Cat5 patch cable between uses, just
 wound it up and put it away.  After a couple of days it no longer worked,
 she somehow caused an open in the Cat5 where it enters the plastic cover on
 the NS2 from bending it at too sharp of an angle.  As a result, she spent a
 month paying for internet time at cafes.  I was right for once.

 Bob-

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 7:33 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostation Loco2

 Have you compared them to the NS2?  I'd be afraid to lose 6dbm and
 2dbi...that's nearly 3 times the power!

 On 11/5/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote:
   
 We have a huge network deployed using these (actually, the Nano Loco 2).
 They work awesome.  We regularly get 18-23Mbps through them.

 On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com
 
 wrote:
   
 I was thinking about getting one of these to have for using open wireless
 when I can't find any. Like keep it in the truck and have it if I can't
 find any wireless networks with just my laptop. So I'm curious as to how
 good they work. And what kind of power they are putting out. I Understand
 that receive sensitivity will be more of a factor in this case. I like
 that
 they are cheap, And can be used as a client. But Haven't found much on
 them
 in terms of specs.

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Re: [WISPA] New Video and Research Shows that Libraries Play a Key Role in Connecting the Disconnected

2009-11-02 Thread Frank Crawford
This is a better link to what is really going on.

http://www.google.com/search?q=libraries+closingie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-a

RickG wrote:
 Received this in my email today. -RickG

 ***

 November 2, 2009

 New Video and Research Shows that Libraries Play a Key Role in Connecting
 the Disconnected

 Connected Nation launches New Video and Policy Brief, “Connecting America
 Through Broadband at the Library”
 Link to Blog 
 http://connectednation.com/in_the_news/the_blog/2009/10/new-video-and-research-shows-that.php
   
 Link to Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz_NdjVxc1Y
 Link to FCC Filing 
 http://connectednation.com/_documents/FCCLibraryAccessFiling102009FINAL.pdf
 Link to Graphs 
 http://connectednation.com/_documents/LibraryApps_102809_FINAL.ppt

 In recent research and activities, Connected Nation has found that
 libraries, across the country, are playing a critical role in connecting
 America’s disconnected. And, Americans are already speaking out about how
 libraries are transforming their families’ lives through broadband.

 Connected Nation has captured some of these stories in a video called
 “Connecting America Through Broadband at the Library.” In addition,
 Connected Nation’s survey research--which was recently filed in a policy
 brief with the Federal Communications Commission—further validates the
 important role libraries play as a community technology hub.

 Below are some of these testimonies.

 Watch Video “Connecting America Through Broadband at the Library.”  
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz_NdjVxc1Y

 Along with this anecdotal evidence, Connected Nation conducted surveys
 across the states of Tennessee and Ohio to better understand the role of
 libraries in the broadband age. The report has been filed with the FCC,
 encouraging the commission to consider the important role community anchor
 institutions—specifically libraries—play in the national broadband plan.

 Key findings of this survey research include:

 • Significant percentages of those who normally don't subscribe to broadband
 – specifically single parents, minorities and low-income residents – are
 relying on the local library as their sole or primary Internet resource: 25
 percent of single parents, 25 percent of minorities, 18 percent of low
 income residents, and 11 percent of people with disabilities depend on
 libraries for Internet connections.

 • More than one-half of library Internet users (51 percent) have children at
 home, suggesting that a significant portion of library Internet users are
 children. Of this group, 42 percent do not have a broadband connected
 computer at home.

 • Library Internet users are significantly more likely than other Internet
 users (those who connect at home or elsewhere) to use a number of online
 applications related to workforce development and education, civic
 engagement and healthcare.

 • Nearly half of library Internet users (46 percent) search for jobs online,
 compared to 29 percent of other Internet users.

 • Library Internet users are significantly more likely than other Internet
 users to communicate online with local government officials (25 percent
 compared to 14 percent.)

 • 28 percent of library Internet users communicate online with healthcare
 professionals, compared to 16 percent of other Internet users.

 To view the filing, click here 
 http://connectednation.com/_documents/FCCLibraryAccessFiling102009FINAL.pdf
   
 .
 
 To view more data from this survey, click here to view graphs. 
 http://connectednation.com/_documents/LibraryApps_102809_FINAL.ppt

 These voices and research are already helping Connected Nation work with the
 Bill  Melinda Gates Foundation in a pilot program called Opportunity
 Online. http://www.opportunityonline.org/

 This initiative partners the Bill  Melinda Gates Foundation, Connected
 Nation and the American Library Association to host broadband summits for
 librarians, public and private leaders and other influencers in six
 different states.

 These summits help communities across each state devise a plan for greater
 library connectivity, especially for libraries that cannot offer broadband
 connected computers.  Following the summits, the libraries are offered the
 opportunity to apply for grants to help fund their connectivity plans.

 To learn more about the Opportunity Online summits, click here. 
 http://www.opportunityonline.org/

 For more information, contact Jessica Ditto at jdi...@connectednation.org or
 (202) 251-4749.

 Related Links:

 FCC Filing: Connecting America through Broadband at the Library: A Connected
 Nation® Policy Brief

 Watch Video: Connecting America Through Broadband at the Library

 In The News: Connected Nation: Libraries key to rural broadband access (The
 Hill, October 30, 2009)


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 Connected Nation
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 202.251.4749 - Mobile
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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Frank Crawford
They do. 
http://www.telephoneparts.com/index.cgi?pcode=PLT-100020-010placement=1

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 Yeah, those are awesome.  I wish they had shielded connectors as well.

 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have


   
 I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
 talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
 just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
 list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
 description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware,
 software etc ... you would like to share with the group.

 I'll start:

 what: EZRJ-45 connector system
 where: www.ezrj45.com
 why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
 find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
 CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
 ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
 verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
 tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
 cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe not a time
 saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver.  I've not miswired an
 Ethernet plug since I started using this system.

 Mike




 
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Re: [WISPA] customer information

2009-10-13 Thread Frank Crawford
Whats your plan if they raise the tower lease to an unacceptable level. 
Once you have a workable plan tell them no.
Frank

jp wrote:
 We've got a municipal lease for one of our towers in a town (We have 
 several towers/sites in the town) and it's up for renewal.

 The municipal leaders wants a map of all users in town and where they 
 get their service from. They want a listing of all users intown and out 
 of town, who use the tower on the site we lease from the town. They want 
 a listing of revenues attributed to the site since the lease began.

 I don't mind giving out maps of our service area, but I think this is 
 going a bit far, and isn't likely to be helpful. I wouldn't want such 
 information to fall into other companies hands with an FOI request or 
 careless distribution either.

 Is any of this illegal to provide? I know CPNI would prevent me from 
 disclosing VOIP records. Any other legal impediments to sharing this? I 
 don't make any security/privacy promises in our AUP. Showing them enough 
 information might be helpful with my case to contribute enough 
 information to show we aren't getting rich off the site and wish for 
 more coverage or expansion. Showing a town coverage information is good 
 for spreading word of mouth about where we can serve in case people 
 didn't think we served that area. But showing all of it would be good 
 for competitors and customers might distrust us a bit for being too free 
 or think we are promoting identity theft. I know darn sure some 
 celebrity customers don't want their name on a local list of clients.

 Any suggestions on gracefully handling such a request?

   



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Re: [WISPA] Verizon Wireless = Joke

2009-10-09 Thread Frank Crawford
If you keep wireless in perspective, 13.10.660 (e) (10) exempts you from 
13.10.660 through 13.10.668, inclusive, and the 30 page app. As far as 
Tom's county, they have the same type of requirements except it only 
applies to licensed freq's not unlicensed.
Frank

Tim Sylvester wrote:
 In Santa Cruz County California, it can cost $25K to go through the
 permitting process to install an antenna. The County charges $6,000 for a
 use permit to install a Wireless Communication Facility. That includes
 towers or just adding an antenna to an existing tower or rooftop. Then they
 charge you another $750 to $1,000 for the building permit to install the
 antenna. To be on the safe side you also need to hire a land-use planner for
 $15K to $20K to handle the permit process on your behalf. After the antenna
 is installed, you have to hire an engineering firm to measure the RF
 emissions to make sure that the new antenna operates within the FCC RF
 radiation exposure standards. This doesn't include any outside engineers the
 county might have to hire to review your application and it does not include
 any fees for leasing the tower or rooftop.

 The county code for Wireless Communications Facilities is 30 pages long with
 a 30 page application. Check them out at: 

 http://www.codepublishing.com/CA/SantaCruzCounty/html/SantaCruzCounty13/Sant
 aCruzCounty1310.html#13.10.659

 Tim

   
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
 Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:47 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon Wireless = Joke

 Try T-Mobile at $4500 here.

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Cameron Kilton
 Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:33 AM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Verizon Wireless = Joke

 I was interested in a Verizon Wireless tower, than they tell me there
 is
 a non-refundable $2500 application fee. WOW, what a rip off.

 I attached there application if nobody else has one to laugh at.

 -Cameron


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Re: [WISPA] Verizon Wireless = Joke

2009-10-09 Thread Frank Crawford
Most of the ordnances that I have researched go out of there way to 
provide definitions for the terms that someone has deemed appropriate,  
with that said,  there are no definitions for small scale, low powered, 
or short-range, compared to other wireless like cellular I'm inclined to 
include WIMAX, especially if it was my setup and my money. I think the 
operative term in the ordinance was visually inconspicuous.

Frank

Tim Sylvester wrote:
 Section 13.10.660 (3) (10) talks about: Small scale, low powered,
 short-range wireless internet transmitter/receivers (e.g., Wi-Fi
 hotspots).

 Would that include WiMAX?

 Tim


   
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Frank Crawford
 Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:43 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon Wireless = Joke

 If you keep wireless in perspective, 13.10.660 (e) (10) exempts you
 from
 13.10.660 through 13.10.668, inclusive, and the 30 page app. As far as
 Tom's county, they have the same type of requirements except it only
 applies to licensed freq's not unlicensed.
 Frank

 Tim Sylvester wrote:
 
 In Santa Cruz County California, it can cost $25K to go through the
 permitting process to install an antenna. The County charges $6,000
   
 for a
 
 use permit to install a Wireless Communication Facility. That
   
 includes
 
 towers or just adding an antenna to an existing tower or rooftop.
   
 Then they
 
 charge you another $750 to $1,000 for the building permit to install
   
 the
 
 antenna. To be on the safe side you also need to hire a land-use
   
 planner for
 
 $15K to $20K to handle the permit process on your behalf. After the
   
 antenna
 
 is installed, you have to hire an engineering firm to measure the RF
 emissions to make sure that the new antenna operates within the FCC
   
 RF
 
 radiation exposure standards. This doesn't include any outside
   
 engineers the
 
 county might have to hire to review your application and it does not
   
 include
 
 any fees for leasing the tower or rooftop.

 The county code for Wireless Communications Facilities is 30 pages
   
 long with
 
 a 30 page application. Check them out at:


   
 http://www.codepublishing.com/CA/SantaCruzCounty/html/SantaCruzCounty13
 /Sant
 
 aCruzCounty1310.html#13.10.659

 Tim


   
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 
 On
 
 Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
 Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:47 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon Wireless = Joke

 Try T-Mobile at $4500 here.

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 
 On
 
 Behalf Of Cameron Kilton
 Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:33 AM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Verizon Wireless = Joke

 I was interested in a Verizon Wireless tower, than they tell me
 
 there
 
 is
 a non-refundable $2500 application fee. WOW, what a rip off.

 I attached there application if nobody else has one to laugh at.

 -Cameron


 
 
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Re: [WISPA] FCC's Warrentless Household Searches Alarm Experts

2009-06-19 Thread Frank Crawford
I agree with Jack 100% and they can do it within bounds set forth in the 
US Constitution and


Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, 
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be 
violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, 
supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place 
to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Its a bad day 
when the public believes gov agency's are above the law.



Jack Unger wrote:
 FROM THE FCC WEBSITE:

 About the FCC

 The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is an independent United 
 States government agency. The FCC was established by the Communications 
 Act of 1934 and is charged with regulating interstate and international 
 communications by radio, television, wire, satellite and cable. The 
 FCC's jurisdiction covers the 50 states, the District of Columbia, and 
 U.S. possessions.

 _

 In other words -

 The FCC has the power to shut down illegal transmitters. It's their job. 
 It's that simple.

 For example, if someone is transmitting on a Fire Department frequency 
 and jamming the Fire Department's radio system, FCC engineers respond, 
 they locate the source of the jamming and take the jamming transmitter 
 off the air. Same thing if someone is jamming an airport control tower 
 frequency, or any other frequency.

 This principle applies to ANY transmitter including licensed 
 transmitters, unlicensed transmitters and any transmitters, including 
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 Mike Hammett wrote:
   
 http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/05/fcc-raid/


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Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall

2009-06-18 Thread Frank Crawford
http://www.vyatta.com/

Patrick D.. Nix, Jr wrote:
 Maybe trying another approach... has anyone successfully implemented a
 firewall using Imagestream rebel with powercode?  I have written some
 iptables rule and placed them in the post config script I can see where
 it is applying them but doesn't seem to be blocking properly.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Bret Clark
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:32 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall

 PFSense on a high end computer probably fit the
 bill...http://www.pfsense.com/


 On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 10:45 -0500, Patrick D.. Nix, Jr wrote:

   
 Basically just wanting to protect our servers 8 servers total (3 email
 
 2
   
 DNS 1 Web 2 offsite backup)

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 
 On
   
 Behalf Of Alan Long
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:34 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall

 How may users behind it? How much throughput?

 
 Aerowire
 Alan Long
 Director of Network Operations
 alan.l...@aerowire.net
 687 North Dean Road
 Auburn, AL 36830
 tel: 3342759998
 mobile: 336092
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 
 On
   
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Re: [WISPA] Streamlined DC Powered System

2008-07-09 Thread Frank Crawford
http://www.invictusnetworks.com/


- Original Message - 
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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Streamlined DC Powered System


 That's where I've gotten my RMS boards most recently.  Recently being
 6-12 months ago...

 On Jul 9, 2008, at 9:36 AM, Steve wrote:

 Hi John,
 I don't know about invictusneteworks.

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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Manager- Help needed

2008-06-08 Thread Frank Crawford
Post your question here and I think you will get and answer.
http://www.wisp-forums.com/

Frank

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 I'm very frustrated with this application. Having trouble getting SSL
 activated on the authentication server.
 I have posted numerous times on MT's forum and received not even one 
 answer.
 I have not received any support from my support ticket either.

 Who is the best MT consultant to use to help me figure out what is wrong?

 Thanks

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Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-05-31 Thread Frank Crawford
Travis,
Put a different name on it like Equipment removal fee and drive on.
Frank
- Original Message - 
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Subject: [WISPA] FCC changes


 This could turn in to something it shouldn't really fast...

 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/30/AR2008053002776.html

 We charge 100% of the remaining contract because we are eating the cost
 on the equipment and rolling a truck (for both installation and pickup).
 Now they want to regulate how much we can charge for early termination. :(

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Re: [WISPA] FCC approves new method for tracking broadband's reach

2008-05-19 Thread Frank Crawford
When ya'll get done jawjacking about crap that isn't going to get to a 
solution I could use some guidence about this.

(There are no plans to create Block level boundary files.)

http://www.census.gov/geo/www/cob/bdy_files.html

With this info we can put together a self indexing program that only needs 
the information you allready have. It's not that big of deal provided we 
don't have to pay for the census data.

Frank





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Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 11:00 AM
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 Then The JURY members were uneducated boobs... a little reading and it
 is very evident he should not be in jail.part of the scare tactic the
 IRS uses every yearsad but true
 If one wanted to read more http://www.originalintent.org/



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 Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
 Sent: May 19, 2008 10:45 AM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC approves new method for tracking broadband's 
 reach

 Your wrong, Wesley Snipes is going to jail for 3 years because a JURY felt
 he should.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of Victoria Proffer
 Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 10:38 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC approves new method for tracking broadband's 
 reach

  I don't know if you are aware of this but there is no law requiring you
 to
 pay income tax, have you ever read any of the U.S. code? Why do you think
 they want to pass a federal sales tax so bad, cause all this is coming out
 on the internet and people are starting to stop paying the income tax. 
 Just
 type income tax on Youtube.

 That is why Wesley Snipes is going to jail for 3 years...

 On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

  Or perhaps you are one of those that doesn't believe the govt has the
 right
 to impose an imcome tax...

 I don't know if you are aware of this but there is no law requiring you 
 to
 pay income tax, have you ever read any of the U.S. code? Why do you think
 they want to pass a federal sales tax so bad, cause all this is coming 
 out
 on the internet and people are starting to stop paying the income tax.
 Just
 type income tax on Youtube.


 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


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 Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2
 Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 12:53 AM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA]FCC approves new method for tracking broadband's 
 reach

 While at it, bill the IRS for your time in filling out their data 
 requests
 which they will use against you.
 Ditto the census bureau, you must be really steamed when they roll
 around...
 Or perhaps you are one of those that doesn't believe the govt has the
 right
 to impose an imcome tax...

 I feel godwins law about to be invoked.  Tinfoil hats anyone...





 
 
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Plesk

2008-04-28 Thread Frank Crawford
Travis,
You can still buy Plesk, it's $1399.00 for unlimited   :-)

http://www.parallels.com/en/buyonline/plesk/linux/

Frank


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 Hi,

 We have been running a few plesk hosting servers for the last 3-4 years.
 About three weeks ago they changed their pricing model from a one-time,
 up front purchase of their software to a monthly lease. We need to add
 another server, but are not interested in a lifetime monthly lease option.

 What is everyone else running for domain hosting boxes that allow the
 customers full-control of only their domain?

 thanks,

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RE: [WISPA] Anyone sell/setup webcams with their wireless service?

2007-09-19 Thread Frank Crawford
Not that I'm aware of.
Frank

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Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 5:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone sell/setup webcams with their wireless service?

Are there any support issues I need to be aware of?  (ie customers
call from out of country about webcam performance, etc)


On 9/19/07, Frank Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Axis 206, 207, 207 wireless, 211. Reasonably Priced at Newegg and
 PC-Connection. Netcam watcher pro for off site monitoring.

 Frank

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 Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:09 AM
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 Subject: [WISPA] Anyone sell/setup webcams with their wireless service?

 Just looking for suggestions.  Would like to offer a simple indoor
 webcam we can sell preconfigured to new wireless customers.  This is a
 new reason for those with second homes to buy our year round service
 for them.  Any camera suggestions?  we're looking at panasonic BL-C30A
 for this use.  Any cautions or encouragements for adding this to our
 menu of offerings?  Appreciate your feedback!

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Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Extenders

2007-06-05 Thread Frank Crawford
This might work of your application. Approx -$1100.00 /ea

http://www.adtran.com/adtranpx/Rooms/DisplayPages/LayoutInitial_webrQS%20_Q29udGFpbmVyPWNvbS53ZWJyaWRnZS5lbnRpdHkuRW50aXR5JTVCT0lEJTVCMzY2RjgzQ0E5OTMzOUE0NUFFMEE2MDhDMUZDQURCRDAlNUQlNUQ.

Frank


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Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet Extenders


 Can anyone offer any experiences with ethernet extenders? We are looking
 for an alternative to wireless backhaul in one of our ILEC towns. We own
 the copper and are looking to go up to 1 mile. We have looked at VDSL as
 an alternative also. This particular application requires 20mb/s
 full-duplex.

 Any knowledge or advise is appreciated.

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Re: [WISPA] Fw: CALEA RouterOS Support and MUM

2007-05-23 Thread Frank Crawford
Does anyone know the technical requirements of  CALEA? If so please send me
a link to the final draft.
thanks frank


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 Meaning 2.9.44?

 Does anyone know if what MT's doing meets the technical requirements of
 CALEA?  I know there's still staffing and contact issues.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com


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  For those who aren't on Mikrotik's mailing list:
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 11:46 AM
  Subject: CALEA RouterOS Support and MUM
 
 
  Eight days until the US MUM!  There is still time to get a good deal on
  flights and hotel accommodations.  http://mum.mikrotik.com/2007/US/
 
  The following CALEA features will be included in the next version of
both
  RouterOS 2.9.XX and 3.X beta.
 
  CALEA features included in RouterOS
  ---
  Multiple subject/multiple destination packet interception and streaming
  in
  following formats:
 
  * Call Content Connection (CCC) Interface according to
PKT-SP-ES-DCI-I01-060914 (PacketCable 2.0 PacketCable Electronic
  Surveillance
Delivery Function to Collection Function Interface Specification)
 
  * Call Content Connection (CCC) Interface according to ANSI/SCTE 24-13
  2006
(IPCalblecom Electronic Surveillance Standard) that is approved
method
  for
Communication Content delivery to LEA according to ATIS-113.2007
(Lawfully Authorized Electronic Surveillance For Internet Access and
Services)
 
  * TZSP format - for reception with 'Ethereal', tcpdump, trafr (sniffer
  stream
  reader for linux) - http://www.mikrotik.com/download.html
 
 
  CALEA-server package
  
  * accepts multiple CCC streams (identified by destination port/source
  address/case id)
 
  * stores communication content according to IP Network Access
Intercept
  Requirements and Method(FBI-WISPA draft) specified full content
  intercept
  requirements (without out-of-band events)
 
  * stores communication content of multiple subjects/cases
 
  * stores communication content in libpcap format
 
  * new libpcap file based on different conditions (interval/size/packet
  count)
 
  * generates hash for each pcap file (md5/sha1/sha256)
 
  Initial documentation can be found at:
  http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Calea
 
 
  Don't forget to attend the MUM CALEA Panel Discussion and register for
  the
  MikroTik CALEA Workshop:
 
  - MikroTik CALEA Workshop, Wednesday May 30th 1-5PM (registration
  required
  [EMAIL PROTECTED])
  - CALEA Panel Discussion, Friday June 1st 11:15-12:45
  http://mum.mikrotik.com/2007/US/agenda
 
 
  Regards,
 
  Training
  MikroTik
 
 

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Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?

2007-04-27 Thread Frank Crawford
Trango's mesh box uses rb532 plus daughter bd and mikrotik OS. It's in thier
manual.
Frank

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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 5:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?


 Rick,

 I have to agree with Ralph on this one. Since you have admitted on a
 public list that you believe there are no certified Mikrotik systems out
 there it would not be in your best interest to start off with such a
system.

 Regards,
 Dawn DiPietro


 ralph wrote:
  The first thing I'd do in a case like that, is use an FCC approved
system to
  start with.  The fact that you don't plan to leaves you open for
controversy
  from the beginning.
 
  Why would you do anything else?
 
  Ralph
 
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  Behalf Of Smith, Rick
  Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 8:44 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
 
  We're looking to provide service to a school nearby, using Mikrotik and
  SR5 / SR9 cards.
 
  Anyone have proposals to a school with info in it addressing the issue
  of will you fry our children ?
 
 

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Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?

2007-04-27 Thread Frank Crawford
Travis;
The router board also connects to a MiniPCI CM9 wireless board that
functions as a WiFi Access Point.

Page 5, Section 2, Paragraph 1 of trango's mesh manual, the trango atlas
radios are for backhaul.

hope this helps

frank


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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?


 The Trango MESH box uses Trango radios (thus FCC certified) and an RB532
 for doing the routing. The RB is NOT providing any wireless service.

 Travis
 Microserv

 George Rogato wrote:
  If the mesh box that is a MT box is legit and certified, why not just
  drop trango from the picture?
  What is the purpose of trango ?
 
 
  Dawn DiPietro wrote:
  Frank,
 
  Then I would suggest Rick go the Trango route.
 
  Regards,
  Dawn DiPietro
 
  Frank Crawford wrote:
  Trango's mesh box uses rb532 plus daughter bd and mikrotik OS. It's
  in thier
  manual.
  Frank
 
  - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 5:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
 
 
 
  Rick,
 
  I have to agree with Ralph on this one. Since you have admitted on a
  public list that you believe there are no certified Mikrotik
  systems out
  there it would not be in your best interest to start off with such a
 
  system.
 
  Regards,
  Dawn DiPietro
 
 
  ralph wrote:
 
  The first thing I'd do in a case like that, is use an FCC approved
 
  system to
 
  start with.  The fact that you don't plan to leaves you open for
 
  controversy
 
  from the beginning.
 
  Why would you do anything else?
 
  Ralph
 
   -Original Message-
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Smith, Rick
  Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 8:44 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
 
  We're looking to provide service to a school nearby, using
  Mikrotik and
  SR5 / SR9 cards.
 
  Anyone have proposals to a school with info in it addressing the
  issue
  of will you fry our children ?
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] LiteStation5

2007-03-17 Thread Frank Crawford
http://www.ubnt.com/litestation5.php4


- Original Message - 
From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] LiteStation5


 Got a url?
 
 Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote:
  Has anybody used these? Do they work well? Are they stable?
  
  Can they do 5.3GHz or just 5.8GHz?
  
  Just wondering how they work.
  
  Thanks
  Andrew
 
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RE: [WISPA] RE: [Camp-shagnasty] T-shirts are in

2005-10-03 Thread Frank Crawford
John;
What size would you like, I'll make it happen for anyone that needs
sizes other than what was shipped.

Frank

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:51 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] RE: [Camp-shagnasty] T-shirts are in

Hey Rick, I know you do not have any shirts big enough to fit around my 
well endowed beer-belly but do you think you could send me one anyway? 
Maybe someday I will accidentally lose enough weight to fit into one of 
those shirts!
:-)
Scriv


Rick Harnish wrote:

I have another 35 shirts in Bluffton, IN.  I can help fulfill the need
if
you run out Mac.  I should thank Frank Crawford from Washington State
for
his donation of shirts and time.  I believe he said his daughter has a
Tshirt Shop.  The designed, printed and shipped the shirts.  I have
attached
a picture of the Tshirts.

Thanks,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac
Dearman
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 9:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Camp-shagnasty] T-shirts are in

Hey folks,

  WISPA ordered some T-shirts for us that were here (N. Louisiana) and 
in Mississippi

They say WISPA  Building Emergency Communications on the front and 
on the right sleeve they say Hurricane Katrina  Relief Team 2005


Please send [EMAIL PROTECTED] you size and mailing addy and we will 
get yours shipped out to you. The sizes available are XL, L  Medium
and 
I think there are 60 of them all total. First come first served on
sizes 
and I can think of a few of US that would stretch a medium sized
T-shirt 
to the point of disgrace :-) and/or even shameful for public display!

 Again I want to thank all of you for your kindness and hard work. I am

at home and will be working on my network this week as I await some
more 
gear to come in to get a few more backhaul links in. Any of you ready 
for another round down there? If you havent been to Bay St. Louis, 
Diamondhead, Waveland or Pearlington - - - - - - you aint seen a thing.

  I need some help for this weekend or first part of next week. I need
a 
couple climbers as well as a few installers. I need some help
re-vamping 
the network in South Mississippi as the original plan does have its 
faults. I have Steve Milton in Seattle who is the Cisco gate keeper and

he has done an outstanding job. He is just a phone call away with any 
changes we need. I think if I can get MCI to give us a full Class C we 
would be in good shape there and then we could just assign public IPs
to 
all routers on the network. The ATAs have given us fits with NAT and I 
think that we now have Aaron supplying us with the Linksys - 2 port ATA

and firewall routers that will enable us to build a highly reliable and

redundant backhaul and AP scenario. (THANKS Aaron)

Later Cats,

Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
www.inetsouth.com
www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts)
318-728-8600 - Rayville
318-728-9600
318-376-2562 - cell






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RE: [WISPA] RE: [Camp-shagnasty] T-shirts are in

2005-10-03 Thread Frank Crawford
Brian;
You need to contact Rick Harnish as I don't know what the plan for
distribution included.
Frank

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 7:36 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] RE: [Camp-shagnasty] T-shirts are in

Are these for sale for WISPA members?

John Scrivner wrote:

 What a guy! Thank you! I am a XX-L.
 John Scrivner
 1100 North 11th Street
 Mt. Vernon, Il. 62864
 Cheers,
 Scriv


 Frank Crawford wrote:

 John;
 What size would you like, I'll make it happen for anyone that needs
 sizes other than what was shipped.

 Frank

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
 Behalf Of John Scrivner
 Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:51 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] RE: [Camp-shagnasty] T-shirts are in

 Hey Rick, I know you do not have any shirts big enough to fit around 
 my well endowed beer-belly but do you think you could send me one 
 anyway? Maybe someday I will accidentally lose enough weight to fit 
 into one of those shirts!
 :-)
 Scriv


 Rick Harnish wrote:

  

 I have another 35 shirts in Bluffton, IN.  I can help fulfill the
need
   

 if
  

 you run out Mac.  I should thank Frank Crawford from Washington
State
   

 for
  

 his donation of shirts and time.  I believe he said his daughter has
a
 Tshirt Shop.  The designed, printed and shipped the shirts.  I have
   

 attached
  

 a picture of the Tshirts.

 Thanks,

 Rick Harnish
 President
 OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
 260-827-2482 Office
 260-307-4000 Cell
 260-918-4340 VoIP
 www.oibw.net
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac
   

 Dearman
  

 Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 9:50 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Camp-shagnasty] T-shirts are in

 Hey folks,

 WISPA ordered some T-shirts for us that were here (N. Louisiana) and

 in Mississippi

 They say WISPA  Building Emergency Communications on the front 
 and on the right sleeve they say Hurricane Katrina  Relief Team
2005


 Please send [EMAIL PROTECTED] you size and mailing addy and we 
 will get yours shipped out to you. The sizes available are XL, L  
 Medium
   

 and  

 I think there are 60 of them all total. First come first served on
   

 sizes  

 and I can think of a few of US that would stretch a medium sized
   

 T-shirt  

 to the point of disgrace :-) and/or even shameful for public
display!

 Again I want to thank all of you for your kindness and hard work. I
am
   


  

 at home and will be working on my network this week as I await some
   

 more  

 gear to come in to get a few more backhaul links in. Any of you 
 ready for another round down there? If you havent been to Bay St. 
 Louis, Diamondhead, Waveland or Pearlington - - - - - - you aint 
 seen a thing.

 I need some help for this weekend or first part of next week. I need
   

 a  

 couple climbers as well as a few installers. I need some help
   

 re-vamping  

 the network in South Mississippi as the original plan does have its 
 faults. I have Steve Milton in Seattle who is the Cisco gate keeper
and
   


  

 he has done an outstanding job. He is just a phone call away with 
 any changes we need. I think if I can get MCI to give us a full 
 Class C we would be in good shape there and then we could just 
 assign public IPs
   

 to  

 all routers on the network. The ATAs have given us fits with NAT and

 I think that we now have Aaron supplying us with the Linksys - 2 
 port ATA
   


  

 and firewall routers that will enable us to build a highly reliable
and
   


  

 redundant backhaul and AP scenario. (THANKS Aaron)

 Later Cats,

 Mac Dearman
 Maximum Access, LLC.
 www.inetsouth.com
 www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts)
 318-728-8600 - Rayville
 318-728-9600
 318-376-2562 - cell






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