Re: [WISPA] Apartment Buildings
The dmarks are trypically in the basements. We could do the DSLAM thing and we have consider some 8 porters on ebay for $550. Ethernet over power line won't work because each apartment is on a separate meter. We set up some linksys wireless routers (SOHO flavor) and run than as APs back to a soekris router on our side where we can force the user through a portal page (acceptable use) ... this part we can do easily. It's the authenticated user management portion that is tough. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Mike wrote: > Where is the telephone demark. Access? You're a CLEC, put a small > DSLAM in there; Zhone? Or consider Ethernet over power > line. Apartment complexes of any size can get really ugly with RF in > a hurry. Wireless absolutely? I don't know about the Meraki > hardware mentioned, but seem to remember they "phone home" to a > central server, but a mesh system could work. > > > > > At 01:16 PM 8/20/2009, you wrote: >>Hi All - >> >>I've looked through several of the archives and wasn't finding an >>answer quickly, but I will apologize if this has been discussed >>before. >> >>Quick history, we are a facilities-based CLEC and provide phone and >>broadband internet over a dedicated fiber-optic network. Through out >>our service area (three small business communities) are many apartment >>buildings. It is easy for us to provide phone service to those units, >>but Internet is another story as the buildings are not wired for >>Internet. The cost of pulling wire is too expensive and too time >>consuming. >> >>We are looking for a way to place centrally located access >>points/wireless routers in these apartments to connect the tenants. >>Easy enough if we wanted a wide-open connection - but the tough part >>comes in trying to manager user accounts. We need away that would >>present a log-in page, and then upon entering valid credentials >>authenticated back against something like a radius service, they would >>gain access to the internet. >> >>To clarify, we are not looking for a hosted application, but more of a >>home-grown solution. We have all of the components for billing, which >>will automatically create a radius account and e-mail, we have online >>billing and web-mail - the only part is the is missing is the web >>authentication piece. >> >>Thanks for listening >>Jeff Yette >>Sales Engineer >>Slic Network Solutions >>(www.slic.com) >> >> >> >>WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Apartment Buildings
The Mikrotik might be the solution. No DirectTV - we are in Time Warner territory so we competing in space where the apartments are wired with Coax that TW owns. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Robert West wrote: > I agree to that. For what you are doing, the Mikrotik would be a no brainer > to decide on. But that that, he's looking to install indoors with many > apartments. All the cordless phones, microwave ovens, baby monitors, > wireless routers, PlayStations, Wii consoles and the like all about as close > as one could stand. Oh, and dunno the location but I've seen way too many > of these apartment complexes where each and every balcony has a DirecTV dish > hung off it. A huge wall of DirecTV bouncing all over. With all this RF > concentrated in such a small place, what band should they be looking at as > well as antenna choice. I think THAT would be hard part to see what would > work reliably before sinking cash into the accessories for that MT board. > > Bob- > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of David E. Smith > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 3:08 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Apartment Buildings > > Jeff Yette wrote: >> To clarify, we are not looking for a hosted application, but more of a >> home-grown solution. We have all of the components for billing, which >> will automatically create a radius account and e-mail, we have online >> billing and web-mail - the only part is the is missing is the web >> authentication piece. > > If you're willing to roll your own, Mikrotik RouterOS has built-in > hotspot functionality that can easily be configured to talk to your > RADIUS server of choice. The ugly-but-functional version can probably be > going in an hour; you'll want to make your own pretty login page and do > some other cosmetic tweaks, but those aren't too difficult either. > > David Smith > MVN.net > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Apartment Buildings
Hi All - I've looked through several of the archives and wasn't finding an answer quickly, but I will apologize if this has been discussed before. Quick history, we are a facilities-based CLEC and provide phone and broadband internet over a dedicated fiber-optic network. Through out our service area (three small business communities) are many apartment buildings. It is easy for us to provide phone service to those units, but Internet is another story as the buildings are not wired for Internet. The cost of pulling wire is too expensive and too time consuming. We are looking for a way to place centrally located access points/wireless routers in these apartments to connect the tenants. Easy enough if we wanted a wide-open connection - but the tough part comes in trying to manager user accounts. We need away that would present a log-in page, and then upon entering valid credentials authenticated back against something like a radius service, they would gain access to the internet. To clarify, we are not looking for a hosted application, but more of a home-grown solution. We have all of the components for billing, which will automatically create a radius account and e-mail, we have online billing and web-mail - the only part is the is missing is the web authentication piece. Thanks for listening Jeff Yette Sales Engineer Slic Network Solutions (www.slic.com) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
