Re: [WISPA] [Bulk] Re: Full BGP on RouterOS
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > Any Juniper fans / users on this list ? > > I have a couple of questions about them. M-series: Very good, but are aging very fast. Good to buy used, though. MX-series: The new king of the hill. The first J's I would considerer for most of the tasks. T-series: Too expensive for the average xSP, look first at the bigger MX'es. EX-series: Not that good, unfortunately. May improve in the future. SRX-series: Good firewalls with some routing capabilities, but sales guys will try to sell them as routers. Run away if you want routing. J-series: Retired, but better than SRX at some fail-over scenarios. SRX may improve in the future, as well. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Bulk] Re: Full BGP on RouterOS
Any Juniper fans / users on this list ? I have a couple of questions about them. Thanks. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom On 11/4/2010 11:16 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: > Hi Rubens, > > Given the number of deployments we have in the field that are rock solid, I'd > be happy to refer you to some of our customers so you can see for yourself > whether they think Quagga is "worthwhile." ☺ > > Jeff > ImageStream > 800-813-5123 x106 > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:52 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [Bulk] Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS > > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists > wrote: >> Hi Rubens, >> >> We've found Quagga to be rock solid with the typical application which is >> under a dozen peers. >> >> We did add a patch to prevent the never-emptying work queue backlog problem >> when multiple peers flap at the same time. I'm sure this is the problem the >> IXP folks ran into. > > The Euro-IX folks developed some patches (or maybe some major code > revision), you might want to take a look into that, but I guess you > probably knew that already... > >> Quagga is a very mature, stable RIP/OSPF/BGP platform which, given >> multi-threading capabilities, will scale to hundreds of peers. > > I saw some nasty bugs over the years with Quagga, and noticed the > enormous effort required to maintain the old codebase; enough to make > me always prefer something else. Every now and then a codebase seems > to be more trouble maintaning than scrapping it altogether on the > open-source world, and I'm pretty convinced that this time has come to > Quagga. > > If you feel that codebase is worthwhile, I suggest investing a large > amount of Imagestream revenues on restructuring it. I'll be glad to > have Quagga as an option, again. > > > Rubens > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3236 - Release Date: 11/03/10 > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Bulk] Re: Full BGP on RouterOS
Hi Rubens, Given the number of deployments we have in the field that are rock solid, I'd be happy to refer you to some of our customers so you can see for yourself whether they think Quagga is "worthwhile." ☺ Jeff ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [Bulk] Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: > Hi Rubens, > > We've found Quagga to be rock solid with the typical application which is > under a dozen peers. > > We did add a patch to prevent the never-emptying work queue backlog problem > when multiple peers flap at the same time. I'm sure this is the problem the > IXP folks ran into. The Euro-IX folks developed some patches (or maybe some major code revision), you might want to take a look into that, but I guess you probably knew that already... > Quagga is a very mature, stable RIP/OSPF/BGP platform which, given > multi-threading capabilities, will scale to hundreds of peers. I saw some nasty bugs over the years with Quagga, and noticed the enormous effort required to maintain the old codebase; enough to make me always prefer something else. Every now and then a codebase seems to be more trouble maintaning than scrapping it altogether on the open-source world, and I'm pretty convinced that this time has come to Quagga. If you feel that codebase is worthwhile, I suggest investing a large amount of Imagestream revenues on restructuring it. I'll be glad to have Quagga as an option, again. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3236 - Release Date: 11/03/10 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
