Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal?
Hi Cameron and All thank you for the hint.. What about worldpay? By the way I am not sure if the PCI-DSS certification would be a way to go or better to stay without it till the volume/month will be more than 10K/month. Comments in this last statement? Square is convenient, but expensive as far as those things go. And I'd bet if you used it with a Euro based system, it would cost even more for the conversion if it would even work. You might be better off negotiating a deal with IP Pay or Pro Pay, or even Authorize. Cameron On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net mailto:m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: Not sure if this works in Europe. https://squareup.com/ On 10/17/2012 07:55 AM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hi Mike I tried for a couple of months to work on the setup with them, then I guess they gave up :( Do you advice them? If so I will try again to find a solution directly with them... Thanky ou I don't suppose IP Pay is available in Europe? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Paolo Di Francescopaolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it To: Chuck Hoggch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com Cc: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 9:33:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal? Hi Chuck first of all thank you for your considerations. Unfortunately having a merchant account here (Europe) is not as easy as I thought. the thing is that all the times I went to a bank asking to start with the process they were telling me why do you want this? your volumes are so low, stay with paypal... But if I do not have a decent merchant account, how should I start accepting the money with credit cards? It sounds like a chicken-egg problem... At the same time I feel (not 100%) that something is going lost with paypal and that is stopping the business growing. I had issues with walled gardens and when I do the tests with the sandbox I have the feeling something is not working there. I know it's not the same system as the production one, but right now the sandbox is giving me a lot of issues... Thank you Paolo: In dealing with European payments, it has been my experience that there are alternatives to Paypal, but they are not much better, if any at all. Google Checkout might be the best alternative. I used to use AlertPay as well, but it got bought out by Payza. Then there's moneybookers that's on it's way to being re-branded as Skrill. Here's one thing I came to realize. If you are willing to pay the $25-50 per month to accept transactions, you are better off getting a full blown merchant account. They are almost as easy to get accepted as Paypal without the hassles. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote: Hi All I am looking for a new paypal like system for European merchants. The ideal would be somebody who will not ask me a merchant-id (paypal does not ask for that) and that has a good payment gateway. I know there are many around but for low volumes and micropayments I think it would be nice to not pay a fixed monthly fee Lately I feel that paypal is not serving us as expected and therefore I wanted to see if there could be an alternative Thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax :+39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072 assistenza:(+39) 091-8776432 tel:%28%2B39%29%20091-8776432 tel:%28%2B39%29%20091-8776432 web:http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto
[WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal?
Hi All I am looking for a new paypal like system for European merchants. The ideal would be somebody who will not ask me a merchant-id (paypal does not ask for that) and that has a good payment gateway. I know there are many around but for low volumes and micropayments I think it would be nice to not pay a fixed monthly fee Lately I feel that paypal is not serving us as expected and therefore I wanted to see if there could be an alternative Thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal?
Would Google Shopping\Checkout\Wallet, whateverit's called now work? I've never used it, but it seems to do a similar thing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 6:22:50 AM Subject: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal? Hi All I am looking for a new paypal like system for European merchants. The ideal would be somebody who will not ask me a merchant-id (paypal does not ask for that) and that has a good payment gateway. I know there are many around but for low volumes and micropayments I think it would be nice to not pay a fixed monthly fee Lately I feel that paypal is not serving us as expected and therefore I wanted to see if there could be an alternative Thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal?
Paolo: In dealing with European payments, it has been my experience that there are alternatives to Paypal, but they are not much better, if any at all. Google Checkout might be the best alternative. I used to use AlertPay as well, but it got bought out by Payza. Then there's moneybookers that's on it's way to being re-branded as Skrill. Here's one thing I came to realize. If you are willing to pay the $25-50 per month to accept transactions, you are better off getting a full blown merchant account. They are almost as easy to get accepted as Paypal without the hassles. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote: Hi All I am looking for a new paypal like system for European merchants. The ideal would be somebody who will not ask me a merchant-id (paypal does not ask for that) and that has a good payment gateway. I know there are many around but for low volumes and micropayments I think it would be nice to not pay a fixed monthly fee Lately I feel that paypal is not serving us as expected and therefore I wanted to see if there could be an alternative Thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal?
Hi Chuck first of all thank you for your considerations. Unfortunately having a merchant account here (Europe) is not as easy as I thought. the thing is that all the times I went to a bank asking to start with the process they were telling me why do you want this? your volumes are so low, stay with paypal... But if I do not have a decent merchant account, how should I start accepting the money with credit cards? It sounds like a chicken-egg problem... At the same time I feel (not 100%) that something is going lost with paypal and that is stopping the business growing. I had issues with walled gardens and when I do the tests with the sandbox I have the feeling something is not working there. I know it's not the same system as the production one, but right now the sandbox is giving me a lot of issues... Thank you Paolo: In dealing with European payments, it has been my experience that there are alternatives to Paypal, but they are not much better, if any at all. Google Checkout might be the best alternative. I used to use AlertPay as well, but it got bought out by Payza. Then there's moneybookers that's on it's way to being re-branded as Skrill. Here's one thing I came to realize. If you are willing to pay the $25-50 per month to accept transactions, you are better off getting a full blown merchant account. They are almost as easy to get accepted as Paypal without the hassles. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote: Hi All I am looking for a new paypal like system for European merchants. The ideal would be somebody who will not ask me a merchant-id (paypal does not ask for that) and that has a good payment gateway. I know there are many around but for low volumes and micropayments I think it would be nice to not pay a fixed monthly fee Lately I feel that paypal is not serving us as expected and therefore I wanted to see if there could be an alternative Thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 tel:%28%2B39%29%20091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal?
I don't suppose IP Pay is available in Europe? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it To: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 9:33:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal? Hi Chuck first of all thank you for your considerations. Unfortunately having a merchant account here (Europe) is not as easy as I thought. the thing is that all the times I went to a bank asking to start with the process they were telling me why do you want this? your volumes are so low, stay with paypal... But if I do not have a decent merchant account, how should I start accepting the money with credit cards? It sounds like a chicken-egg problem... At the same time I feel (not 100%) that something is going lost with paypal and that is stopping the business growing. I had issues with walled gardens and when I do the tests with the sandbox I have the feeling something is not working there. I know it's not the same system as the production one, but right now the sandbox is giving me a lot of issues... Thank you Paolo: In dealing with European payments, it has been my experience that there are alternatives to Paypal, but they are not much better, if any at all. Google Checkout might be the best alternative. I used to use AlertPay as well, but it got bought out by Payza. Then there's moneybookers that's on it's way to being re-branded as Skrill. Here's one thing I came to realize. If you are willing to pay the $25-50 per month to accept transactions, you are better off getting a full blown merchant account. They are almost as easy to get accepted as Paypal without the hassles. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote: Hi All I am looking for a new paypal like system for European merchants. The ideal would be somebody who will not ask me a merchant-id (paypal does not ask for that) and that has a good payment gateway. I know there are many around but for low volumes and micropayments I think it would be nice to not pay a fixed monthly fee Lately I feel that paypal is not serving us as expected and therefore I wanted to see if there could be an alternative Thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 tel:%28%2B39%29%20091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal?
Hi Mike I tried for a couple of months to work on the setup with them, then I guess they gave up :( Do you advice them? If so I will try again to find a solution directly with them... Thanky ou I don't suppose IP Pay is available in Europe? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it To: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 9:33:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal? Hi Chuck first of all thank you for your considerations. Unfortunately having a merchant account here (Europe) is not as easy as I thought. the thing is that all the times I went to a bank asking to start with the process they were telling me why do you want this? your volumes are so low, stay with paypal... But if I do not have a decent merchant account, how should I start accepting the money with credit cards? It sounds like a chicken-egg problem... At the same time I feel (not 100%) that something is going lost with paypal and that is stopping the business growing. I had issues with walled gardens and when I do the tests with the sandbox I have the feeling something is not working there. I know it's not the same system as the production one, but right now the sandbox is giving me a lot of issues... Thank you Paolo: In dealing with European payments, it has been my experience that there are alternatives to Paypal, but they are not much better, if any at all. Google Checkout might be the best alternative. I used to use AlertPay as well, but it got bought out by Payza. Then there's moneybookers that's on it's way to being re-branded as Skrill. Here's one thing I came to realize. If you are willing to pay the $25-50 per month to accept transactions, you are better off getting a full blown merchant account. They are almost as easy to get accepted as Paypal without the hassles. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote: Hi All I am looking for a new paypal like system for European merchants. The ideal would be somebody who will not ask me a merchant-id (paypal does not ask for that) and that has a good payment gateway. I know there are many around but for low volumes and micropayments I think it would be nice to not pay a fixed monthly fee Lately I feel that paypal is not serving us as expected and therefore I wanted to see if there could be an alternative Thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 tel:%28%2B39%29%20091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal?
Not sure if this works in Europe. https://squareup.com/ On 10/17/2012 07:55 AM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hi Mike I tried for a couple of months to work on the setup with them, then I guess they gave up :( Do you advice them? If so I will try again to find a solution directly with them... Thanky ou I don't suppose IP Pay is available in Europe? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Paolo Di Francesco" paolo.difrance...@level7.it To: "Chuck Hogg" ch...@shelbybb.com Cc: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 9:33:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal? Hi Chuck first of all thank you for your considerations. Unfortunately having a merchant account here (Europe) is not as easy as I thought. the thing is that all the times I went to a bank asking to start with the process they were telling me "why do you want this? your volumes are so low, stay with paypal..." But if I do not have a decent merchant account, how should I start accepting the money with credit cards? It sounds like a chicken-egg problem... At the same time I feel (not 100%) that something is going lost with paypal and that is stopping the business growing. I had issues with walled gardens and when I do the tests with the sandbox I have the feeling something is not working there. I know it's not the same system as the production one, but right now the sandbox is giving me a lot of issues... Thank you Paolo: In dealing with European payments, it has been my experience that there are alternatives to Paypal, but they are not much better, if any at all. Google Checkout might be the best alternative. I used to use AlertPay as well, but it got bought out by Payza. Then there's moneybookers that's on it's way to being re-branded as Skrill. Here's one thing I came to realize. If you are willing to pay the $25-50 per month to accept transactions, you are better off getting a full blown merchant account. They are almost as easy to get accepted as Paypal without the hassles. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote: Hi All I am looking for a new "paypal" like system for European merchants. The ideal would be somebody who will not ask me a merchant-id (paypal does not ask for that) and that has a good payment gateway. I know there are many around but for low volumes and micropayments I think it would be nice to not pay a fixed monthly fee Lately I feel that paypal is not serving us as expected and therefore I wanted to see if there could be an alternative Thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 tel:%28%2B39%29%20091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal?
Square is convenient, but expensive as far as those things go. And I'd bet if you used it with a Euro based system, it would cost even more for the conversion if it would even work. You might be better off negotiating a deal with IP Pay or Pro Pay, or even Authorize. Cameron On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.netwrote: Not sure if this works in Europe. https://squareup.com/ On 10/17/2012 07:55 AM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hi Mike I tried for a couple of months to work on the setup with them, then I guess they gave up :( Do you advice them? If so I will try again to find a solution directly with them... Thanky ou I don't suppose IP Pay is available in Europe? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it paolo.difrance...@level7.it To: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com ch...@shelbybb.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 9:33:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal? Hi Chuck first of all thank you for your considerations. Unfortunately having a merchant account here (Europe) is not as easy as I thought. the thing is that all the times I went to a bank asking to start with the process they were telling me why do you want this? your volumes are so low, stay with paypal... But if I do not have a decent merchant account, how should I start accepting the money with credit cards? It sounds like a chicken-egg problem... At the same time I feel (not 100%) that something is going lost with paypal and that is stopping the business growing. I had issues with walled gardens and when I do the tests with the sandbox I have the feeling something is not working there. I know it's not the same system as the production one, but right now the sandbox is giving me a lot of issues... Thank you Paolo: In dealing with European payments, it has been my experience that there are alternatives to Paypal, but they are not much better, if any at all. Google Checkout might be the best alternative. I used to use AlertPay as well, but it got bought out by Payza. Then there's moneybookers that's on it's way to being re-branded as Skrill. Here's one thing I came to realize. If you are willing to pay the $25-50 per month to accept transactions, you are better off getting a full blown merchant account. They are almost as easy to get accepted as Paypal without the hassles. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote: Hi All I am looking for a new paypal like system for European merchants. The ideal would be somebody who will not ask me a merchant-id (paypal does not ask for that) and that has a good payment gateway. I know there are many around but for low volumes and micropayments I think it would be nice to not pay a fixed monthly fee Lately I feel that paypal is not serving us as expected and therefore I wanted to see if there could be an alternative Thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 tel:%28%2B39%29%20091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
