Re: [WISPA] -- the ISPs were not around to listen.
How many WISPs even knew about this? I don't remember hearing about it. marlon - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; "Principal WISPA Member List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 12:03 PM Subject: [WISPA] -- the ISPs were not around to listen. >A man who wanted to share old music with friends, a representative from > the Christian Coalition of America, film and music industry > representatives, and a group of angry grandmothers showed up for a > hearing on network management practices, > > but those who manage the networks did not. > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/cmp/20080419/tc_cmp/207400668;_ylt=Aj7BtiECX4xS0wtp8dAGI1X6VbIF > > > --- > > The Federal Communications Commission's hearing at Stanford Thursday was > a chance for the public to vent frustrations at Comcast's and other > Internet service providers' network-management practices, but -- unlike > at a similar hearing in February > > > -- the ISPs were not around to listen. > > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20080418/tc_nf/59366;_ylt=Arj_hh0JuykDF09wy0o84FP6VbIF > > -- > > How come us little guys were not there or invited? > Why did the FCC not ask WISPA to come and talk to them, they invited > Comcast, ATT, and other big operators. > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] -- the ISPs were not around to listen.
You are exactly right. I can show you numerous instances where they are in bed with the telcos too!! -- Original Message -- From: Butch Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 18:28:59 -0500 (CDT) >By the way, folks, if you don't get the sense that Michael Copps and >Ken Martin are the enemy here, you better read those articles again. Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] -- the ISPs were not around to listen.
On Sat, 19 Apr 2008, George Rogato wrote: >A man who wanted to share old music with friends, a representative >from the Christian Coalition of America, film and music industry >representatives, and a group of angry grandmothers showed up for a >hearing on network management practices, > >but those who manage the networks did not. >From that first article posted: **QUOTE** They include Stanford University law professor Lawrence Lessig, a software quality engineer who raised the issue after being unable to share barbershop quartet songs with friends, and Michele Combs, who said the Christian Coalition was upset that Comcast had blocked customers from sharing parts of the Bible over the Internet. Like others supporting stronger network neutrality measures, she said she feared that ISPs could block information in favor of its own content. **END QUOTE** The law professor is complaining because he could not share songs with friends? I wonder if he owns the distribution rights to those songs? Interestingly enough, that wasn't in the article. As for the Christian Coalition being upset that "Comcast had blocked customers from sharing parts of the Bible", is completely stupid. Comcast did no such thing. Their "sharing" via bittorrent simply got mixed in with all the other sharing (including PORN) and was blocked. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm fed up with this stupidity. I don't run a network today, but I think I will start one just so I can block p2p. SHEESH! When will these people get a life! By the way, folks, if you don't get the sense that Michael Copps and Ken Martin are the enemy here, you better read those articles again. -- *Butch Evans*Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering*MikroTik RouterOS * *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Wired or Wireless Networks* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] -- the ISPs were not around to listen.
A man who wanted to share old music with friends, a representative from the Christian Coalition of America, film and music industry representatives, and a group of angry grandmothers showed up for a hearing on network management practices, but those who manage the networks did not. http://news.yahoo.com/s/cmp/20080419/tc_cmp/207400668;_ylt=Aj7BtiECX4xS0wtp8dAGI1X6VbIF --- The Federal Communications Commission's hearing at Stanford Thursday was a chance for the public to vent frustrations at Comcast's and other Internet service providers' network-management practices, but -- unlike at a similar hearing in February -- the ISPs were not around to listen. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20080418/tc_nf/59366;_ylt=Arj_hh0JuykDF09wy0o84FP6VbIF -- How come us little guys were not there or invited? Why did the FCC not ask WISPA to come and talk to them, they invited Comcast, ATT, and other big operators. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
