[WISPA] 1/2 size channels and tx power

2009-10-21 Thread Randy Cosby
Just curious about something.

If' I'm using an R5H card with a 54meg tx power of 21db, then switch it 
to 1/2 size channels (10mhz), will I still be limited to 21db txpower, 
or something closer to 25 (the 24M full size channel tx power)?  I'm 
pretty sure the txpower is tied to the modulation, not the size of the 
channel, but I've seen mention of getting better signal strengths under 
smaller channels (spectral density?).

-- 
Randy Cosby
Vice President
InfoWest, Inc

435-674-0165 x 2010

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Re: [WISPA] 1/2 size channels and tx power

2009-10-21 Thread Steve Barnes
Better signal due to noise floor change.  10Mhz has been a life send.

Steve Barnes
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Randy Cosby
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Subject: [WISPA] 1/2 size channels and tx power

Just curious about something.

If' I'm using an R5H card with a 54meg tx power of 21db, then switch it 
to 1/2 size channels (10mhz), will I still be limited to 21db txpower, 
or something closer to 25 (the 24M full size channel tx power)?  I'm 
pretty sure the txpower is tied to the modulation, not the size of the 
channel, but I've seen mention of getting better signal strengths under 
smaller channels (spectral density?).

-- 
Randy Cosby
Vice President
InfoWest, Inc

435-674-0165 x 2010

http://www.infowest.com/





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Re: [WISPA] 1/2 size channels and tx power

2009-10-21 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi,

In my experience, when changing from 20mhz to 10mhz channel size, I see 
a +3db in signal strength on each side of the link. This is with no 
other changes, we leave all the power settings at default.

Travis
Microserv

Randy Cosby wrote:
 Just curious about something.

 If' I'm using an R5H card with a 54meg tx power of 21db, then switch it 
 to 1/2 size channels (10mhz), will I still be limited to 21db txpower, 
 or something closer to 25 (the 24M full size channel tx power)?  I'm 
 pretty sure the txpower is tied to the modulation, not the size of the 
 channel, but I've seen mention of getting better signal strengths under 
 smaller channels (spectral density?).

   



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Re: [WISPA] 1/2 size channels and tx power

2009-10-21 Thread Jason Hensley
Only problem I've got with 10Mhz (or 5Mhz) is that a vast majority of
laptops cannot see that, and it kills our hotspot capabilities.  Beyond
that, yes, it's fantastic.




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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 1/2 size channels and tx power

Better signal due to noise floor change.  10Mhz has been a life send.

Steve Barnes
Manager
PCS-WIN
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service

Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of
trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition
inspired, and success achieved.
- Helen Keller

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] 1/2 size channels and tx power

Just curious about something.

If' I'm using an R5H card with a 54meg tx power of 21db, then switch it 
to 1/2 size channels (10mhz), will I still be limited to 21db txpower, 
or something closer to 25 (the 24M full size channel tx power)?  I'm 
pretty sure the txpower is tied to the modulation, not the size of the 
channel, but I've seen mention of getting better signal strengths under 
smaller channels (spectral density?).

-- 
Randy Cosby
Vice President
InfoWest, Inc

435-674-0165 x 2010

http://www.infowest.com/






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Re: [WISPA] 1/2 size channels and tx power

2009-10-21 Thread Steve Barnes
Drop a MT 433A in place with a 2nd R52 as your hotspot on an Omni Down lower on 
the tower.  Then you have a dedicated Radio for Subscribers secured on a 10Mhz 
channel and a Hotspot Radio that if it has some goofy laptop in a semi trying 
to connected at -88 it doesn't kill all your subs.

Steve Barnes
Manager
PCS-WIN
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service

Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of 
trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition 
inspired, and success achieved.
- Helen Keller


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jason Hensley
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:13 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 1/2 size channels and tx power

Only problem I've got with 10Mhz (or 5Mhz) is that a vast majority of
laptops cannot see that, and it kills our hotspot capabilities.  Beyond
that, yes, it's fantastic.




-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:08 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 1/2 size channels and tx power

Better signal due to noise floor change.  10Mhz has been a life send.

Steve Barnes
Manager
PCS-WIN
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service

Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of
trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition
inspired, and success achieved.
- Helen Keller

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] 1/2 size channels and tx power

Just curious about something.

If' I'm using an R5H card with a 54meg tx power of 21db, then switch it 
to 1/2 size channels (10mhz), will I still be limited to 21db txpower, 
or something closer to 25 (the 24M full size channel tx power)?  I'm 
pretty sure the txpower is tied to the modulation, not the size of the 
channel, but I've seen mention of getting better signal strengths under 
smaller channels (spectral density?).

-- 
Randy Cosby
Vice President
InfoWest, Inc

435-674-0165 x 2010

http://www.infowest.com/






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Re: [WISPA] 1/2 size channels and tx power

2009-10-21 Thread Jerry Richardson
Makes sense. Same power in half the with is like doubling the power

Jerry

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 1/2 size channels and tx power

Hi,

In my experience, when changing from 20mhz to 10mhz channel size, I see 
a +3db in signal strength on each side of the link. This is with no 
other changes, we leave all the power settings at default.

Travis
Microserv

Randy Cosby wrote:
 Just curious about something.

 If' I'm using an R5H card with a 54meg tx power of 21db, then switch it 
 to 1/2 size channels (10mhz), will I still be limited to 21db txpower, 
 or something closer to 25 (the 24M full size channel tx power)?  I'm 
 pretty sure the txpower is tied to the modulation, not the size of the 
 channel, but I've seen mention of getting better signal strengths under 
 smaller channels (spectral density?).

   



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