Re: [WISPA] 18 Ghz Range

[lakeland]

Note my comment was based around 2' dishesnot spectrum. 


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 Original message From: Christian Palecek 
<christ...@cybernet1.com> Date: 1/16/17  5:08 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General 
List <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 18 Ghz Range 
We have a couple of 18ghz at about 10 miles full modulation.  We are in rain 
zone B though, we have never had issues with fading in the rain at all though.


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 Original message From: lakeland <lakel...@gbcx.net> Date: 
1/16/17  2:51 PM  (GMT-07:00) To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 18 Ghz Range 
I would not do more than about 2-3 miles on an 18 ghz hop depending on your 
weather.  The other issue is only 60' elevation.  Not happy at all with that 
elevation for more than a mile.


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 Original message From: Sam Morris <w...@csilogan.com> Date: 
1/16/17  9:34 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 18 Ghz 
Range 
At what distance would one expect to start having attenuation issues
with an 18 GHz link? Assume 2ft dishes on each end with clear Fresnel
zone. (Dishes at 60ft AGL on each end in case that makes a difference)

Thanks,
Sam
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Re: [WISPA] 18 Ghz Range

[Christian Palecek]

We have a couple of 18ghz at about 10 miles full modulation.  We are in rain 
zone B though, we have never had issues with fading in the rain at all though.


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 Original message From: lakeland <lakel...@gbcx.net> Date: 
1/16/17  2:51 PM  (GMT-07:00) To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 18 Ghz Range 
I would not do more than about 2-3 miles on an 18 ghz hop depending on your 
weather.  The other issue is only 60' elevation.  Not happy at all with that 
elevation for more than a mile.


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 Original message From: Sam Morris <w...@csilogan.com> Date: 
1/16/17  9:34 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 18 Ghz 
Range 
At what distance would one expect to start having attenuation issues
with an 18 GHz link? Assume 2ft dishes on each end with clear Fresnel
zone. (Dishes at 60ft AGL on each end in case that makes a difference)

Thanks,
Sam
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Re: [WISPA] 18 Ghz Range

[lakeland]

I would not do more than about 2-3 miles on an 18 ghz hop depending on your 
weather.  The other issue is only 60' elevation.  Not happy at all with that 
elevation for more than a mile.


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 Original message From: Sam Morris <w...@csilogan.com> Date: 
1/16/17  9:34 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 18 Ghz 
Range 
At what distance would one expect to start having attenuation issues
with an 18 GHz link? Assume 2ft dishes on each end with clear Fresnel
zone. (Dishes at 60ft AGL on each end in case that makes a difference)

Thanks,
Sam
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Re: [WISPA] 18 Ghz Range

[Gino Villarini]

For us is 2 miles Š.

On 1/16/17, 10:34 AM, "wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Sam Morris"



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>At what distance would one expect to start having attenuation issues
>with an 18 GHz link? Assume 2ft dishes on each end with clear Fresnel
>zone. (Dishes at 60ft AGL on each end in case that makes a difference)
>
>Thanks,
>Sam
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Re: [WISPA] 18 Ghz Range

[Jeremy]

At a previous employer, we had an 18 and 22 mile link on low power
DragonWave 3' dishes.  They would drop out every time it rained.  We
replaced them with high power and they dropped out less.  On another link
we used 6' dishes to go something like 27 miles.  That link seemed pretty
stable, but holy crap those dishes are big.

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Kris McElroy <kmcel...@threesixtycomm.net>
wrote:

> My advice is that you run this link through Cambiums Link Planner software
> or have your vendor run it for you.  The way an 18ghz link in Idaho would
> perform is different than the way it would in Texas do to the different
> rain rates.
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> *From: *<wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Sean Heskett <
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> *Date: *Monday, January 16, 2017 at 10:03 AM
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> We've done a 6 mile link with 2' dishes without issues.  We are in NW
> Colorado so we get some wicked thunderstorms in the summertime that drop
> lots of water.  I probably wouldn't go much further than 6 miles with 2'
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> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 7:34 AM Sam Morris <w...@csilogan.com> wrote:
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> At what distance would one expect to start having attenuation issues
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> with an 18 GHz link? Assume 2ft dishes on each end with clear Fresnel
>
> zone. (Dishes at 60ft AGL on each end in case that makes a difference)
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> Thanks,
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> Sam
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Re: [WISPA] 18 Ghz Range

[Kris McElroy]

My advice is that you run this link through Cambiums Link Planner software or 
have your vendor run it for you.  The way an 18ghz link in Idaho would perform 
is different than the way it would in Texas do to the different rain rates.





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360 Communications
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From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Date: Monday, January 16, 2017 at 10:03 AM
To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 18 Ghz Range

We've done a 6 mile link with 2' dishes without issues.  We are in NW Colorado 
so we get some wicked thunderstorms in the summertime that drop lots of water.  
I probably wouldn't go much further than 6 miles with 2' dishes though.

-Sean


On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 7:34 AM Sam Morris 
<w...@csilogan.com<mailto:w...@csilogan.com>> wrote:
At what distance would one expect to start having attenuation issues

with an 18 GHz link? Assume 2ft dishes on each end with clear Fresnel

zone. (Dishes at 60ft AGL on each end in case that makes a difference)



Thanks,

Sam

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Re: [WISPA] 18 Ghz Range

[Sean Heskett]

We've done a 6 mile link with 2' dishes without issues.  We are in NW
Colorado so we get some wicked thunderstorms in the summertime that drop
lots of water.  I probably wouldn't go much further than 6 miles with 2'
dishes though.

-Sean


On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 7:34 AM Sam Morris  wrote:

> At what distance would one expect to start having attenuation issues
>
> with an 18 GHz link? Assume 2ft dishes on each end with clear Fresnel
>
> zone. (Dishes at 60ft AGL on each end in case that makes a difference)
>
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> Thanks,
>
> Sam
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Re: [WISPA] 18 Ghz Range

[Mike Hammett]

On a random test link I drew up in Cambium's Link Planner yesterday, I needed 
to increase one side to 3' to get the desired throughput and uptime on a ~3 
mile link. 




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Mike Hammett 

Intelligent Computing Solutions 


Midwest Internet Exchange 


The Brothers WISP 

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From: "Sam Morris" <w...@csilogan.com> 
To: wireless@wispa.org 
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 8:34:02 AM 
Subject: [WISPA] 18 Ghz Range 

At what distance would one expect to start having attenuation issues 
with an 18 GHz link? Assume 2ft dishes on each end with clear Fresnel 
zone. (Dishes at 60ft AGL on each end in case that makes a difference) 

Thanks, 
Sam 
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[WISPA] 18 Ghz Range

[Sam Morris]

At what distance would one expect to start having attenuation issues
with an 18 GHz link? Assume 2ft dishes on each end with clear Fresnel
zone. (Dishes at 60ft AGL on each end in case that makes a difference)

Thanks,
Sam
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