[WISPA] 3.65 BS
What is the issue? Is it the cost factor?? Are they being schmucks??? What is it. The Commission Part 25.256 states that the earth station _must negotiate_ in good faith with the terrestrial licensee (thats you) to arrive at _mutually agreeable_ operating _parameters_ to prevent unacceptable interference It does not say you need to pay their engineering firm bocu dollars every time you want to put up a base station. The rules explicitly say that they need to come up with operating PARAMETERS not procedures. They can't say you need to have their cousin Mikey do the engineering study and you pay them $3000 each time you want to do it and then they will approve each individual engineering study. It says they have to come up with a set of operating parameters not procedures. Tell them you need a set of operating parameters to ensure that you don't interfere with them. And they can't ignore you. The Commission states they must negotiate with you. Document all your correspondence in writing, certified mail and build a case. When they fail to respond appropriately you can submit your own engineering study and request the Commission make a determination at that point. They can't just ignore you or make your life miserable or cost prohibitive to do business. So again...what are the issues??? -B- Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Yeppers. I've not been able to work with them either. I've finally given up hoping that the FCC will shrink the exclusion zones. marlon - Original Message - From: Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately? lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Never say never. Maybe if you are right next to their site but I am pretty confident that you can get a site approved with the right engineering study and maybe a waiver request. Depends on how bad you want it -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Yes it does depend on how bad you want it. I don't want it bad enough to have to pay for each customer location have to be approved on a case by case basis by Comtrain as per their demands. Ask Marlon about these clowns. I'm 143km from them and I have four, 5000+ foot ridge lines / mountain ranges between us. Not to mention my base stations are pointed away from them. -Original Message- From: Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:11:27 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately? If you are in an exclusion zone with SES Americom you can count on never as far as being able to deploy WiMax. ralphlists wrote: It is a new nationwide license. But I'm also interested in the time frame for the base station registration as well. It's not me. It is for a friend. My nationwide license took 4 months, but that was back when they first came out. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately? Are you applying for a license, or a new location on an existing license? On 3/9/2010 8:53 AM, ralphlists wrote: How long is the FCC taking these days for a new license? Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 BS
In good faith is legal speak for waste of time. On 3/9/10, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: What is the issue? Is it the cost factor?? Are they being schmucks??? What is it. The Commission Part 25.256 states that the earth station _must negotiate_ in good faith with the terrestrial licensee (thats you) to arrive at _mutually agreeable_ operating _parameters_ to prevent unacceptable interference It does not say you need to pay their engineering firm bocu dollars every time you want to put up a base station. The rules explicitly say that they need to come up with operating PARAMETERS not procedures. They can't say you need to have their cousin Mikey do the engineering study and you pay them $3000 each time you want to do it and then they will approve each individual engineering study. It says they have to come up with a set of operating parameters not procedures. Tell them you need a set of operating parameters to ensure that you don't interfere with them. And they can't ignore you. The Commission states they must negotiate with you. Document all your correspondence in writing, certified mail and build a case. When they fail to respond appropriately you can submit your own engineering study and request the Commission make a determination at that point. They can't just ignore you or make your life miserable or cost prohibitive to do business. So again...what are the issues??? -B- Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Yeppers. I've not been able to work with them either. I've finally given up hoping that the FCC will shrink the exclusion zones. marlon - Original Message - From: Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately? lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Never say never. Maybe if you are right next to their site but I am pretty confident that you can get a site approved with the right engineering study and maybe a waiver request. Depends on how bad you want it -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Yes it does depend on how bad you want it. I don't want it bad enough to have to pay for each customer location have to be approved on a case by case basis by Comtrain as per their demands. Ask Marlon about these clowns. I'm 143km from them and I have four, 5000+ foot ridge lines / mountain ranges between us. Not to mention my base stations are pointed away from them. -Original Message- From: Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:11:27 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately? If you are in an exclusion zone with SES Americom you can count on never as far as being able to deploy WiMax. ralphlists wrote: It is a new nationwide license. But I'm also interested in the time frame for the base station registration as well. It's not me. It is for a friend. My nationwide license took 4 months, but that was back when they first came out. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately? Are you applying for a license, or a new location on an existing license? On 3/9/2010 8:53 AM, ralphlists wrote: How long is the FCC taking these days for a new license? Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 BS
On 3/9/2010 2:35 PM, Bob Moldashel wrote: What is the issue? Is it the cost factor?? Are they being schmucks??? What is it. The Commission Part 25.256 states that the earth station _must negotiate_ in good faith with the terrestrial licensee (thats you) to arrive at _mutually agreeable_ operating _parameters_ to prevent unacceptable interference It does not say you need to pay their engineering firm bocu dollars every time you want to put up a base station. The rules explicitly say that they need to come up with operating PARAMETERS not procedures. They can't say you need to have their cousin Mikey do the engineering study and you pay them $3000 each time you want to do it and then they will approve each individual engineering study. It says they have to come up with a set of operating parameters not procedures. Tell them you need a set of operating parameters to ensure that you don't interfere with them. And they can't ignore you. The Commission states they must negotiate with you. Document all your correspondence in writing, certified mail and build a case. When they fail to respond appropriately you can submit your own engineering study and request the Commission make a determination at that point. They can't just ignore you or make your life miserable or cost prohibitive to do business. So again...what are the issues??? Hi Bob... You are right but it like going up against Goliath. When I was working for a WiSP in NoVA two years ago I was working on this and had to deal with Comsearch. At that point in time, I found out a ways through it they did one and at the outset they quoted me some gargantuan price. I said no way Jose. They eventually came back with a cheaper price which was more reasonable. They (the earth stations) were looking to have every location approved. THen a few months later Comsearch pulled the plug on them doing the engineering work. Last year they then put up this website http://www.comsearch.com/interactive_solutions/3650MHz_Quick_Look/overview.jsp so it seems they are back in that biz again. I have to go back through my files (I moved last April and haven't unpacked my office yet) and see who was the one company that was at least cordial to us. The Commission is going to have to do better than what they did. I was going to originally do my testing in the Amateur 3.5 band down there but then I left and now here at PAETEC. Doing testing in the amateur band would have been ok since I am a licensee and I would have put my callsign in the SSID for id purposes. 73 Leon WA4ZLW No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2732 - Release Date: 03/09/10 02:33:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 BS
is there a map of the exclusion zones? Bob Moldashel wrote: What is the issue? Is it the cost factor?? Are they being schmucks??? What is it. The Commission Part 25.256 states that the earth station "_must negotiate_ in good faith with the terrestrial licensee (thats you) to arrive at _mutually agreeable_ operating _parameters_ to prevent unacceptable interference" It does not say you need to pay their engineering firm bocu dollars every time you want to put up a base station. The rules explicitly say that they need to come up with operating PARAMETERS not procedures. They can't say you need to have their cousin "Mikey" do the engineering study and you pay them $3000 each time you want to do it and then they will approve each individual engineering study. It says they have to come up with a set of operating "parameters" not procedures. Tell them you need a set of operating parameters to ensure that you don't interfere with them. And they can't ignore you. The Commission states they "must" negotiate with you. Document all your correspondence in writing, certified mail and build a case. When they fail to respond appropriately you can submit your own engineering study and request the Commission make a determination at that point. They can't just ignore you or make your life miserable or cost prohibitive to do business. So again...what are the issues??? -B- Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Yeppers. I've not been able to work with them either. I've finally given up hoping that the FCC will shrink the exclusion zones. marlon - Original Message - From: "Pat O'Connor" p...@inlandnet.com To: lakel...@gbcx.net; "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately? lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Never say never. Maybe if you are right next to their site but I am pretty confident that you can get a site approved with the right engineering study and maybe a waiver request. Depends on how bad you want it -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Yes it does depend on how bad you want it. I don't want it bad enough to have to pay for each customer location have to be approved on a case by case basis by Comtrain as per their demands. Ask Marlon about these clowns. I'm 143km from them and I have four, 5000+ foot ridge lines / mountain ranges between us. Not to mention my base stations are pointed away from them. -Original Message- From: "Pat O'Connor" p...@inlandnet.com Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:11:27 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately? If you are in an exclusion zone with SES Americom you can count on never as far as being able to deploy WiMax. ralphlists wrote: It is a new nationwide license. But I'm also interested in the time frame for the base station registration as well. It's not me. It is for a friend. My nationwide license took 4 months, but that was back when they first came out. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately? Are you applying for a license, or a new location on an existing license? On 3/9/2010 8:53 AM, ralphlists wrote: How long is the FCC taking these days for a new license? Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 BS
There is a really good Google Earth one I've seen. Did you Google them? On 3/9/10, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: is there a map of the exclusion zones? Bob Moldashel wrote: What is the issue? Is it the cost factor?? Are they being schmucks??? What is it. The Commission Part 25.256 states that the earth station _must negotiate_ in good faith with the terrestrial licensee (thats you) to arrive at _mutually agreeable_ operating _parameters_ to prevent unacceptable interference It does not say you need to pay their engineering firm bocu dollars every time you want to put up a base station. The rules explicitly say that they need to come up with operating PARAMETERS not procedures. They can't say you need to have their cousin Mikey do the engineering study and you pay them $3000 each time you want to do it and then they will approve each individual engineering study. It says they have to come up with a set of operating parameters not procedures. Tell them you need a set of operating parameters to ensure that you don't interfere with them. And they can't ignore you. The Commission states they must negotiate with you. Document all your correspondence in writing, certified mail and build a case. When they fail to respond appropriately you can submit your own engineering study and request the Commission make a determination at that point. They can't just ignore you or make your life miserable or cost prohibitive to do business. So again...what are the issues??? -B- Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Yeppers. I've not been able to work with them either. I've finally given up hoping that the FCC will shrink the exclusion zones. marlon - Original Message - From: Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately? lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Never say never. Maybe if you are right next to their site but I am pretty confident that you can get a site approved with the right engineering study and maybe a waiver request. Depends on how bad you want it -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Yes it does depend on how bad you want it. I don't want it bad enough to have to pay for each customer location have to be approved on a case by case basis by Comtrain as per their demands. Ask Marlon about these clowns. I'm 143km from them and I have four, 5000+ foot ridge lines / mountain ranges between us. Not to mention my base stations are pointed away from them. -Original Message- From: Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:11:27 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately? If you are in an exclusion zone with SES Americom you can count on never as far as being able to deploy WiMax. ralphlists wrote: It is a new nationwide license. But I'm also interested in the time frame for the base station registration as well. It's not me. It is for a friend. My nationwide license took 4 months, but that was back when they first came out. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately? Are you applying for a license, or a new location on an existing license? On 3/9/2010 8:53 AM, ralphlists wrote: How long is the FCC taking these days for a new license? Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You!
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 BS
JFGIhttp://spectrumgenie.com/esmap.asp - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Blair Davis Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 4:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 BS is there a map of the exclusion zones? Bob Moldashel wrote: What is the issue? Is it the cost factor?? Are they being schmucks??? What is it. The Commission Part 25.256 states that the earth station _must negotiate_ in good faith with the terrestrial licensee (thats you) to arrive at _mutually agreeable_ operating _parameters_ to prevent unacceptable interference It does not say you need to pay their engineering firm bocu dollars every time you want to put up a base station. The rules explicitly say that they need to come up with operating PARAMETERS not procedures. They can't say you need to have their cousin Mikey do the engineering study and you pay them $3000 each time you want to do it and then they will approve each individual engineering study. It says they have to come up with a set of operating parameters not procedures. Tell them you need a set of operating parameters to ensure that you don't interfere with them. And they can't ignore you. The Commission states they must negotiate with you. Document all your correspondence in writing, certified mail and build a case. When they fail to respond appropriately you can submit your own engineering study and request the Commission make a determination at that point. They can't just ignore you or make your life miserable or cost prohibitive to do business. So again...what are the issues??? -B- Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Yeppers. I've not been able to work with them either. I've finally given up hoping that the FCC will shrink the exclusion zones. marlon - Original Message - From: Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately? lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Never say never. Maybe if you are right next to their site but I am pretty confident that you can get a site approved with the right engineering study and maybe a waiver request. Depends on how bad you want it -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Yes it does depend on how bad you want it. I don't want it bad enough to have to pay for each customer location have to be approved on a case by case basis by Comtrain as per their demands. Ask Marlon about these clowns. I'm 143km from them and I have four, 5000+ foot ridge lines / mountain ranges between us. Not to mention my base stations are pointed away from them. -Original Message- From: Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:11:27 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately? If you are in an exclusion zone with SES Americom you can count on never as far as being able to deploy WiMax. ralphlists wrote: It is a new nationwide license. But I'm also interested in the time frame for the base station registration as well. It's not me. It is for a friend. My nationwide license took 4 months, but that was back when they first came out. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately? Are you applying for a license, or a new location on an existing license? On 3/9/2010 8:53 AM, ralphlists wrote: How long is the FCC taking these days for a new license? Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 BS
Yes, I did. did not find anything thru google, but a buddy of mine pointed me at this http://zing.naviciti.com/ Josh Luthman wrote: There is a really good Google Earth one I've seen. Did you Google them? On 3/9/10, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: is there a map of the exclusion zones? Bob Moldashel wrote: What is the issue? Is it the cost factor?? Are they being schmucks??? What is it. The Commission Part 25.256 states that the earth station "_must negotiate_ in good faith with the terrestrial licensee (thats you) to arrive at _mutually agreeable_ operating _parameters_ to prevent unacceptable interference" It does not say you need to pay their engineering firm bocu dollars every time you want to put up a base station. The rules explicitly say that they need to come up with operating PARAMETERS not procedures. They can't say you need to have their cousin "Mikey" do the engineering study and you pay them $3000 each time you want to do it and then they will approve each individual engineering study. It says they have to come up with a set of operating "parameters" not procedures. Tell them you need a set of operating parameters to ensure that you don't interfere with them. And they can't ignore you. The Commission states they "must" negotiate with you. Document all your correspondence in writing, certified mail and build a case. When they fail to respond appropriately you can submit your own engineering study and request the Commission make a determination at that point. They can't just ignore you or make your life miserable or cost prohibitive to do business. So again...what are the issues??? -B- Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Yeppers. I've not been able to work with them either. I've finally given up hoping that the FCC will shrink the exclusion zones. marlon - Original Message - From: "Pat O'Connor" p...@inlandnet.com To: lakel...@gbcx.net; "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately? lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Never say never. Maybe if you are right next to their site but I am pretty confident that you can get a site approved with the right engineering study and maybe a waiver request. Depends on how bad you want it -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Yes it does depend on how bad you want it. I don't want it bad enough to have to pay for each customer location have to be approved on a case by case basis by Comtrain as per their demands. Ask Marlon about these clowns. I'm 143km from them and I have four, 5000+ foot ridge lines / mountain ranges between us. Not to mention my base stations are pointed away from them. -Original Message- From: "Pat O'Connor" p...@inlandnet.com Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:11:27 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately? If you are in an exclusion zone with SES Americom you can count on never as far as being able to deploy WiMax. ralphlists wrote: It is a new nationwide license. But I'm also interested in the time frame for the base station registration as well. It's not me. It is for a friend. My nationwide license took 4 months, but that was back when they first came out. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately? Are you applying for a license, or a new location on an existing license? On 3/9/2010 8:53 AM, ralphlists wrote: How long is the FCC taking these days for a new license? Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 BS
Everything goes smoothly if you have a good FCC lawyer in DC! Of course, thats big bucks too! I know one if you need him. Alternatively, go to your local congressman. I've done both of these and it really works. -RickG On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: What is the issue? Is it the cost factor?? Are they being schmucks??? What is it. The Commission Part 25.256 states that the earth station _must negotiate_ in good faith with the terrestrial licensee (thats you) to arrive at _mutually agreeable_ operating _parameters_ to prevent unacceptable interference It does not say you need to pay their engineering firm bocu dollars every time you want to put up a base station. The rules explicitly say that they need to come up with operating PARAMETERS not procedures. They can't say you need to have their cousin Mikey do the engineering study and you pay them $3000 each time you want to do it and then they will approve each individual engineering study. It says they have to come up with a set of operating parameters not procedures. Tell them you need a set of operating parameters to ensure that you don't interfere with them. And they can't ignore you. The Commission states they must negotiate with you. Document all your correspondence in writing, certified mail and build a case. When they fail to respond appropriately you can submit your own engineering study and request the Commission make a determination at that point. They can't just ignore you or make your life miserable or cost prohibitive to do business. So again...what are the issues??? -B- Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Yeppers. I've not been able to work with them either. I've finally given up hoping that the FCC will shrink the exclusion zones. marlon - Original Message - From: Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately? lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Never say never. Maybe if you are right next to their site but I am pretty confident that you can get a site approved with the right engineering study and maybe a waiver request. Depends on how bad you want it -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Yes it does depend on how bad you want it. I don't want it bad enough to have to pay for each customer location have to be approved on a case by case basis by Comtrain as per their demands. Ask Marlon about these clowns. I'm 143km from them and I have four, 5000+ foot ridge lines / mountain ranges between us. Not to mention my base stations are pointed away from them. -Original Message- From: Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:11:27 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately? If you are in an exclusion zone with SES Americom you can count on never as far as being able to deploy WiMax. ralphlists wrote: It is a new nationwide license. But I'm also interested in the time frame for the base station registration as well. It's not me. It is for a friend. My nationwide license took 4 months, but that was back when they first came out. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately? Are you applying for a license, or a new location on an existing license? On 3/9/2010 8:53 AM, ralphlists wrote: How long is the FCC taking these days for a new license? Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
