Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-25 Thread John Thomas
Cisco 1200 series are FCC certified for DFS bands.

We have a pair of 1250's doing a .3 mile link at 135 Megabits/sec. 
Throughput at about 9.5 Megabytes per second on a file copy. Yes, they 
are more expensive at about $650 each (CDW), but they work. If you don't 
need 802.11n, then the 1242's will do 802.11a at about $475 each. You do 
have to mount them in NEMA boxes.


John

On 1/20/2011 2:00 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
 If you want DFS2 legal the only thing I am aware of is moto

 Anything (old) DFS that is not already in the air is not legal to hang.

 There is a slough full of stuff that is pending DFS2 certification including 
 ubiquity.

 Mikrotik is not DFS2.

 Jerry Richardson
 Sent Mobile

 On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Mattlm7...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer
 with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear.  Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band
 gear.  Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant
 in that band?  Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth
 and a lower price.


 
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Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-21 Thread Mike Hammett
The 5.2 certs do you no good.  5.25 - 5.35 GHz requires DFS as well for 
new deployments since the change was released.  You can only replace 
existing pre-DFS gear with other pre-DFS gear.


-
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On 1/20/2011 11:05 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:


Can you direct me to the CM9 and xr5 certification for the 5.2 band?

I would really like to be able to use this band for a few sites where 
subs are 2-3 miles max


- Jerry

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Blair Davis

*Sent:* Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:02 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

The cm9 and xr5 cards are certified for use in the 5.2GHz band 
(5.18-5.32GHz) and in the 5.8GHz band (5.745-5.825GHz).


I don't use anything in the 5.4GHz band because that requires DFS

I really don't want to rehash the modular certification argument again.

On 1/20/2011 4:55 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:

FCC certified?

Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Blair Davis

*Sent:* Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:48 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

Use 5.2GHz, mikrotik with cm9 or xr5 cards.  I do a PtP link 3200ft on 
5.3GHz.  Carries 50Mbit on a 40MHz channel with ease...


On 1/20/2011 4:39 PM, Matt wrote:

Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer
with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear.  Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band
gear.  Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant
in that band?  Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth
and a lower price.
  
  


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Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-21 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I have some Tranzeo radios that are certified for 5.4 and 5.2. Can these be
re-hung? If so they are for sale.

 

Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com

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Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 7:41 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

 

The 5.2 certs do you no good.  5.25 - 5.35 GHz requires DFS as well for new
deployments since the change was released.  You can only replace existing
pre-DFS gear with other pre-DFS gear.



 
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
 


On 1/20/2011 11:05 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: 

Can you direct me to the CM9 and xr5 certification for the 5.2 band? 

 

I would really like to be able to use this band for a few sites where subs
are 2-3 miles max

 

 

- Jerry

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:02 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

 

The cm9 and xr5 cards are certified for use in the 5.2GHz band
(5.18-5.32GHz) and in the 5.8GHz band (5.745-5.825GHz).

I don't use anything in the 5.4GHz band because that requires DFS

I really don't want to rehash the modular certification argument again.

On 1/20/2011 4:55 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: 

FCC certified?

 

Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:48 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

 

Use 5.2GHz, mikrotik with cm9 or xr5 cards.  I do a PtP link 3200ft on
5.3GHz.  Carries 50Mbit on a 40MHz channel with ease...

On 1/20/2011 4:39 PM, Matt wrote: 

Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer
with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear.  Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band
gear.  Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant
in that band?  Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth
and a lower price.
 
 


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Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-21 Thread Matt
 If you want DFS2 legal the only thing I am aware of is moto

 Anything (old) DFS that is not already in the air is not legal to hang.

 There is a slough full of stuff that is pending DFS2 certification including 
 ubiquity.

When will Ubiquiti be approved?  Roughly?



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Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-21 Thread Jerry Richardson
open to speculation. Some think 12 weeks (I'm not one of them)

- Jerry

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Matt
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:50 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops


 If you want DFS2 legal the only thing I am aware of is moto

 Anything (old) DFS that is not already in the air is not legal to hang.

 There is a slough full of stuff that is pending DFS2 certification including 
 ubiquity.

When will Ubiquiti be approved?  Roughly?



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Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-21 Thread Blair Davis


  
  
If you are a long way away from TDWR locations...

And the gear is old...

And you make it look like it has been there a long time...

You will most likely get away with it...

The purpose of this rule is to protect the radar systems...

As long as that is done, it is unlikely anyone will care.

But remember, I have a very pragmatic view of the rules and tend to
follow the spirit / purpose of the rules.

On 1/21/2011 12:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

  
  
  

  

  

  
  
  
I have some
  Tranzeo radios that are
  certified for 5.4 and 5.2. Can these be
  re-hung? If so they are for sale.


  Kurt Fankhauser
  Wavelinc
Communications
  P.O. Box 126
  Bucyrus, OH
  44820
  http://www.wavelinc.com
  419-562-6405
  
  Sent from
Microsoft Outlook
  


  

  
  From:
wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Mike Hammett
Sent:
Friday, January 21, 2011
7:41 AM
To:
WISPA General List
Subject:
Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4
Short Hops


The 5.2 certs do you no good. 5.25 -
  5.35 GHz
  requires DFS as well for new deployments since
  the change was released.
  You can only replace existing pre-DFS gear
  with other pre-DFS gear.
  
  

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


  On 1/20/2011 11:05 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
  
Can you direct me to the CM9 and xr5 certification for
the
5.2 band? 

I
would really like to be able to use this
band for a few sites where subs are
2-3 miles max



  - Jerry



  
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
  [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
  On
  Behalf Of Blair Davis
  Sent:
  Thursday, January 20, 2011
  9:02 PM
  To:
  WISPA General List
  Subject:
  Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4
  Short Hops
  


The cm9 and xr5 cards are certified for
  use in the
  5.2GHz band (5.18-5.32GHz) and in the 5.8GHz
  band (5.745-5.825GHz).
  
  I don't use anything in the 5.4GHz band
  because that requires DFS
  
  I really don't want to rehash the modular
  certification argument again.
  
  On 1/20/2011 4:55 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: 
FCC certified?


  Gino A. Villarini
  g...@aeronetpr.com
  Aeronet Wireless
Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143

  
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
  [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org

[WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-20 Thread Matt
Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer
with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear.  Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band
gear.  Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant
in that band?  Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth
and a lower price.



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Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-20 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
Looks like Trango still sells the TrangoLINK-45, which claims to support
5.2-5.8GHz with DFS.

-Kristian

On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 15:39 -0600, Matt wrote:
 Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer
 with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear.  Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band
 gear.  Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant
 in that band?  Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth
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Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-20 Thread Blair Davis


  
  
Use 5.2GHz, mikrotik with cm9 or xr5 cards. I do a PtP link 3200ft
on 5.3GHz. Carries 50Mbit on a 40MHz channel with ease...

On 1/20/2011 4:39 PM, Matt wrote:

  Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer
with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear.  Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band
gear.  Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant
in that band?  Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth
and a lower price.



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Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-20 Thread Luke Pack
Check out trango 5055s- they'll do 5.2, 5.4, 5.7 and are a great value-
they've worked well for us, and 5.4 works great when under the 2-3 ile mark
(4 or so if you use external dishes).

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer
 with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear.  Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band
 gear.  Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant
 in that band?  Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth
 and a lower price.



 
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Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-20 Thread Luke Pack
Check out trango 5055s- they'll do 5.2, 5.4, 5.7 and are a great
value- they've worked well for us, and 5.4 works great when under the
2-3 ile mark (4 or so if you use external dishes).

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer
 with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear.  Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band
 gear.  Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant
 in that band?  Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth
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Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-20 Thread Luke Pack
sorry for the multiple sends...

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Luke Pack luke.p...@t6mail.com wrote:
 Check out trango 5055s- they'll do 5.2, 5.4, 5.7 and are a great
 value- they've worked well for us, and 5.4 works great when under the
 2-3 ile mark (4 or so if you use external dishes).

 On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer
 with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear.  Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band
 gear.  Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant
 in that band?  Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth
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Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-20 Thread Gino Villarini
FCC certified?

 

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

 

Use 5.2GHz, mikrotik with cm9 or xr5 cards.  I do a PtP link 3200ft on
5.3GHz.  Carries 50Mbit on a 40MHz channel with ease...

On 1/20/2011 4:39 PM, Matt wrote: 

Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer
with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear.  Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band
gear.  Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant
in that band?  Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth
and a lower price.
 
 


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Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-20 Thread Jerry Richardson
If you want DFS2 legal the only thing I am aware of is moto

Anything (old) DFS that is not already in the air is not legal to hang.

There is a slough full of stuff that is pending DFS2 certification including 
ubiquity.

Mikrotik is not DFS2.

Jerry Richardson
Sent Mobile

On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer
 with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear.  Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band
 gear.  Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant
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Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-20 Thread Bob Moldashel
How much bandwidth and what is your price point?  There is Exalt Comm 
EX5r series which works great.

There are others but they have various DFS qualities and some false on 
noise which they mistake for DFS hits.

-B-




On 1/20/2011 5:00 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
 If you want DFS2 legal the only thing I am aware of is moto

 Anything (old) DFS that is not already in the air is not legal to hang.

 There is a slough full of stuff that is pending DFS2 certification including 
 ubiquity.

 Mikrotik is not DFS2.

 Jerry Richardson
 Sent Mobile

 On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Mattlm7...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer
 with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear.  Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band
 gear.  Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant
 in that band?  Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth
 and a lower price.


 
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Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-20 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
The TLink45 (P5055m) uses DFS2 and is certified for 5.2 and 5.4... but 
it will only carry 3500-4000 PPS and overall is a POS.

Moto PTP series (Orthogon) has 5.4 certified options, but certainly 
isn't in the price range mentioned.

RadWin 2000 will do 100 FDX in those bands and is FCC certified. $5K+ 
per link though.

Redline AN80 another option. Also .$$

Keep in mind you will be using DFS and therefore should be using high 
performance parabolics if there is any chance of radar activity. 
Otherwise be ready for 1-minute link drops.

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On 1/20/2011 5:00 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
 If you want DFS2 legal the only thing I am aware of is moto

 Anything (old) DFS that is not already in the air is not legal to hang.

 There is a slough full of stuff that is pending DFS2 certification including 
 ubiquity.

 Mikrotik is not DFS2.

 Jerry Richardson
 Sent Mobile

 On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Mattlm7...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer
 with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear.  Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band
 gear.  Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant
 in that band?  Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth
 and a lower price.


 
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Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-20 Thread Gino Villarini
Try a Radwin 1000, 

Gino A. Villarini
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Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 6:22 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

The TLink45 (P5055m) uses DFS2 and is certified for 5.2 and 5.4... but 
it will only carry 3500-4000 PPS and overall is a POS.

Moto PTP series (Orthogon) has 5.4 certified options, but certainly 
isn't in the price range mentioned.

RadWin 2000 will do 100 FDX in those bands and is FCC certified. $5K+ 
per link though.

Redline AN80 another option. Also .$$

Keep in mind you will be using DFS and therefore should be using high 
performance parabolics if there is any chance of radar activity. 
Otherwise be ready for 1-minute link drops.

-- 
Patrick Shoemaker
Vector Data Systems LLC
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
office: (301) 358-1690 x36
http://www.vectordatasystems.com

On 1/20/2011 5:00 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
 If you want DFS2 legal the only thing I am aware of is moto

 Anything (old) DFS that is not already in the air is not legal to
hang.

 There is a slough full of stuff that is pending DFS2 certification
including ubiquity.

 Mikrotik is not DFS2.

 Jerry Richardson
 Sent Mobile

 On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Mattlm7...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not
interfer
 with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear.  Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band
 gear.  Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant
 in that band?  Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth
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Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-20 Thread Blair Davis


  
  
The cm9 and xr5 cards are certified for use in the 5.2GHz band
(5.18-5.32GHz) and in the 5.8GHz band (5.745-5.825GHz).

I don't use anything in the 5.4GHz band because that requires DFS

I really don't want to rehash the modular certification argument
again.

On 1/20/2011 4:55 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:

  
  
  
  
FCC certified?


  Gino A. Villarini
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  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143

  
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
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Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
  


Use 5.2GHz, mikrotik with cm9 or xr5
  cards. I do a PtP link 3200ft on 5.3GHz. Carries 50Mbit on a
  40MHz channel with ease...
  
  On 1/20/2011 4:39 PM, Matt wrote: 
Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer
with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear. Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band
gear. Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant
in that band? Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth
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Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-20 Thread Jerry Richardson
Can you direct me to the CM9 and xr5 certification for the 5.2 band?

I would really like to be able to use this band for a few sites where subs are 
2-3 miles max


- Jerry

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Blair Davis
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:02 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

The cm9 and xr5 cards are certified for use in the 5.2GHz band (5.18-5.32GHz) 
and in the 5.8GHz band (5.745-5.825GHz).

I don't use anything in the 5.4GHz band because that requires DFS

I really don't want to rehash the modular certification argument again.

On 1/20/2011 4:55 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
FCC certified?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:48 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

Use 5.2GHz, mikrotik with cm9 or xr5 cards.  I do a PtP link 3200ft on 5.3GHz.  
Carries 50Mbit on a 40MHz channel with ease...

On 1/20/2011 4:39 PM, Matt wrote:

Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer

with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear.  Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band

gear.  Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant

in that band?  Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth

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Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-20 Thread Jeromie Reeves
unii low 5.15-5.25 GHz. 50mw, integrated antenna and indoor use only
unii mid 5.25-5.35 ghz. 250mw, DFS required, 'Professional installer'

take the FCC ID for the cards and go look at the FCC database. They
only have certs for existing legacy installs. all new installs must
pass the new rules.

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
 Can you direct me to the CM9 and xr5 certification for the 5.2 band?



 I would really like to be able to use this band for a few sites where subs
 are 2-3 miles max





 - Jerry



 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Blair Davis
 Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:02 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops



 The cm9 and xr5 cards are certified for use in the 5.2GHz band
 (5.18-5.32GHz) and in the 5.8GHz band (5.745-5.825GHz).

 I don't use anything in the 5.4GHz band because that requires DFS

 I really don't want to rehash the modular certification argument again.

 On 1/20/2011 4:55 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:

 FCC certified?



 Gino A. Villarini

 g...@aeronetpr.com

 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

 787.273.4143

 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Blair Davis
 Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:48 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops



 Use 5.2GHz, mikrotik with cm9 or xr5 cards.  I do a PtP link 3200ft on
 5.3GHz.  Carries 50Mbit on a 40MHz channel with ease...

 On 1/20/2011 4:39 PM, Matt wrote:

 Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer

 with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear.  Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band

 gear.  Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant

 in that band?  Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth

 and a lower price.





 

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Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-20 Thread Jerry Richardson
That's what I thought

- Jerry

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops


unii low 5.15-5.25 GHz. 50mw, integrated antenna and indoor use only
unii mid 5.25-5.35 ghz. 250mw, DFS required, 'Professional installer'

take the FCC ID for the cards and go look at the FCC database. They
only have certs for existing legacy installs. all new installs must
pass the new rules.

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
 Can you direct me to the CM9 and xr5 certification for the 5.2 band?



 I would really like to be able to use this band for a few sites where subs
 are 2-3 miles max





 - Jerry



 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Blair Davis
 Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:02 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops



 The cm9 and xr5 cards are certified for use in the 5.2GHz band
 (5.18-5.32GHz) and in the 5.8GHz band (5.745-5.825GHz).

 I don't use anything in the 5.4GHz band because that requires DFS

 I really don't want to rehash the modular certification argument again.

 On 1/20/2011 4:55 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:

 FCC certified?



 Gino A. Villarini

 g...@aeronetpr.com

 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

 787.273.4143

 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
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 Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:48 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops



 Use 5.2GHz, mikrotik with cm9 or xr5 cards.  I do a PtP link 3200ft on
 5.3GHz.  Carries 50Mbit on a 40MHz channel with ease...

 On 1/20/2011 4:39 PM, Matt wrote:

 Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer

 with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear.  Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band

 gear.  Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant

 in that band?  Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth

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Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-20 Thread Blair Davis


  
  
Here is the 5.2GHz grant for the CM9

https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPYRequestTimeout=500tcb_code=application_id=972754fcc_id=NKRCM9

I'm still looking for the 5.2GHz grant for the xr5, but here is the
grant for 5.8GHz

https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPYRequestTimeout=500tcb_code=application_id=992995fcc_id=SWX-XR5

On 1/21/2011 12:05 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
Can you direct me to the CM9 and xr5
certification for the 5.2 band? 

I would really like to be able to use this band
for a few sites where subs are 2-3 miles max



  - Jerry



  
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair
Davis
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:02 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
  


The cm9 and xr5 cards are certified for use
  in the 5.2GHz band (5.18-5.32GHz) and in the 5.8GHz band
  (5.745-5.825GHz).
  
  I don't use anything in the 5.4GHz band because that requires
  DFS
  
  I really don't want to rehash the modular certification
  argument again.
  
  On 1/20/2011 4:55 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: 
FCC certified?


  Gino A. Villarini
  g...@aeronetpr.com
  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143

  
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:48 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
  


Use 5.2GHz, mikrotik with cm9 or xr5
  cards. I do a PtP link 3200ft on 5.3GHz. Carries 50Mbit on a
  40MHz channel with ease...
  
  On 1/20/2011 4:39 PM, Matt wrote: 
Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer
with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear. Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band
gear. Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant
in that band? Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth
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Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-20 Thread Blair Davis


  
  
And now I learned something... that the 5.25-5.32GHz band is now
limited by DFS.

This applies to new links only?



On 1/21/2011 12:47 AM, Blair Davis wrote:

  
  Here is the 5.2GHz grant for the CM9
  
  https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPYRequestTimeout=500tcb_code=application_id=972754fcc_id=NKRCM9
  
  I'm still looking for the 5.2GHz grant for the xr5, but here is
  the grant for 5.8GHz
  
  https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPYRequestTimeout=500tcb_code=application_id=992995fcc_id=SWX-XR5
  
  On 1/21/2011 12:05 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
  





  Can you direct me to the CM9 and
  xr5 certification for the 5.2 band? 
  
  I would really like to be able
  to use this band for a few sites where subs are 2-3 miles
  max
  
  
  
- Jerry
  
  
  

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
  [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
  On Behalf Of Blair Davis
  Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:02 PM
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  Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

  
  
  The cm9 and xr5 cards are certified for
use in the 5.2GHz band (5.18-5.32GHz) and in the 5.8GHz band
(5.745-5.825GHz).

I don't use anything in the 5.4GHz band because that
requires DFS

I really don't want to rehash the modular certification
argument again.

On 1/20/2011 4:55 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: 
  FCC
  certified?
  
  
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband
Corp.
  
  787.273.4143
  

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  On Behalf Of Blair Davis
  Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:48 PM
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  Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

  
  
  Use 5.2GHz, mikrotik with cm9 or xr5
cards. I do a PtP link 3200ft on 5.3GHz. Carries 50Mbit on
a 40MHz channel with ease...

On 1/20/2011 4:39 PM, Matt wrote: 
  Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer
  with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear. Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band
  gear. Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant
  in that band? Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth
  and a lower price.
  
  
  
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Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-20 Thread Jerry Richardson
That's what I was driving at. Although technically 5.2 the FCC is treating 
the entire band as 5.4 and subject to DFS2 rules.

Applies to anything not already in the air that would be grandfathered in.

Anything not already in the air cannot be installed unless it's DFS2 compliant.

Anything currently in the air needs to be checked againt the TDWR database to 
ensure you are not interfering with FAA weather radar.


- Jerry

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Blair Davis
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:57 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

And now I learned something... that the 5.25-5.32GHz band is now limited by DFS.

This applies to new links only?



On 1/21/2011 12:47 AM, Blair Davis wrote:
Here is the 5.2GHz grant for the CM9

https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPYRequestTimeout=500tcb_code=application_id=972754fcc_id=NKRCM9

I'm still looking for the 5.2GHz grant for the xr5, but here is the grant for 
5.8GHz

https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPYRequestTimeout=500tcb_code=application_id=992995fcc_id=SWX-XR5

On 1/21/2011 12:05 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
Can you direct me to the CM9 and xr5 certification for the 5.2 band?

I would really like to be able to use this band for a few sites where subs are 
2-3 miles max


- Jerry

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:02 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

The cm9 and xr5 cards are certified for use in the 5.2GHz band (5.18-5.32GHz) 
and in the 5.8GHz band (5.745-5.825GHz).

I don't use anything in the 5.4GHz band because that requires DFS

I really don't want to rehash the modular certification argument again.

On 1/20/2011 4:55 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
FCC certified?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:48 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

Use 5.2GHz, mikrotik with cm9 or xr5 cards.  I do a PtP link 3200ft on 5.3GHz.  
Carries 50Mbit on a 40MHz channel with ease...

On 1/20/2011 4:39 PM, Matt wrote:

Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer

with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear.  Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band

gear.  Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant

in that band?  Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth

and a lower price.







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Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops

2011-01-20 Thread Blair Davis


  
  
PtP link.
2200ft 
2ft dishes
CM9's
40MHz channel
5 years in service

with the elevation and beamwidth accounted for, one is shooting the
dirt and the other is hitting the moon ;)

Link from fiber shed to dist. tower over a barn...

Just to be safe, I checked and found that the nearest airport
weather radar was 120+miles... In Chicago... and 150 miles to
Detroit.

So I think I am safe.


On 1/21/2011 1:02 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
That's what I was driving at. Although
technically "5.2" the FCC is treating the entire band as 5.4
and subject to DFS2 rules.

Applies to anything not already in the air that
would be grandfathered in. 

Anything not already in the air cannot be
installed unless it's DFS2 compliant.

Anything currently in the air needs to be checked
againt the TDWR database to ensure you are not interfering
with FAA weather radar.



  - Jerry



  
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair
Davis
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:57 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
  


And now I learned something... that the
  5.25-5.32GHz band is now limited by DFS.
  
  This applies to new links only?
  
  
  
  On 1/21/2011 12:47 AM, Blair Davis wrote: 
Here is the 5.2GHz grant for the CM9
  
  https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPYRequestTimeout=500tcb_code=application_id=972754fcc_id=NKRCM9
  
  I'm still looking for the 5.2GHz grant for the xr5, but here
  is the grant for 5.8GHz
  
  https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/reports/Tcb731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COPYRequestTimeout=500tcb_code=application_id=992995fcc_id=SWX-XR5
  
  On 1/21/2011 12:05 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: 
Can you direct me to the CM9 and xr5
certification for the 5.2 band? 

I would really like to be able to use this band
for a few sites where subs are 2-3 miles max



  - Jerry



  
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:02 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
  


The cm9 and xr5 cards are certified for use
  in the 5.2GHz band (5.18-5.32GHz) and in the 5.8GHz band
  (5.745-5.825GHz).
  
  I don't use anything in the 5.4GHz band because that requires
  DFS
  
  I really don't want to rehash the modular certification
  argument again.
  
  On 1/20/2011 4:55 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: 
FCC certified?


  Gino A. Villarini
  g...@aeronetpr.com
  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143

  
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:48 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.2 or 5.4 Short Hops
  


Use 5.2GHz, mikrotik with cm9 or xr5
  cards. I do a PtP link 3200ft on 5.3GHz. Carries 50Mbit on a
  40MHz channel with ease...
  
  On 1/20/2011 4:39 PM, Matt wrote: 
Looking for some gear to do 4 short hops under a mile and not interfer
with existing 2.4 or 5.7 gear. Was thinking of the 5.2 or 5.4 band
gear. Whats out there that wont break the bank and is FCC compliant
in that band? Leaning towards canopy but would like more bandwidth
and a lower price.



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