[WISPA] 6 Ghz Questions

2007-10-14 Thread Gino Villarini
Hey List

I don't have much experience with licensed 6 ghz  so I have the
following question based on this scenario:

I have the opportunity to acquire a couple of underused 6ghz microwave
paths.  They are based on Harris DS3 equipment. They are currently
installed on towers that are about 500 to 1500 feet from my towers.  As
you may expect, I wish to move those antennas and paths to my towers in
order to save on tower rent.

Would this affect in any way the FCC license?
What would be the procedure to solicit a move?
Would I need to basically start from scratch license wise?

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145



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Re: [WISPA] 6 Ghz Questions

2007-10-14 Thread Travis Johnson

Hi,

I would contact MicroNet (www.micronetcom.com) and see. My guess would 
be because you are moving the locations is that you would have to start 
from scratch. New path analysis, new licenses. Total cost is probably 
$2,500.


Travis
Microserv

Gino Villarini wrote:

Hey List

I don't have much experience with licensed 6 ghz  so I have the
following question based on this scenario:

I have the opportunity to acquire a couple of underused 6ghz microwave
paths.  They are based on Harris DS3 equipment. They are currently
installed on towers that are about 500 to 1500 feet from my towers.  As
you may expect, I wish to move those antennas and paths to my towers in
order to save on tower rent.

Would this affect in any way the FCC license?
What would be the procedure to solicit a move?
Would I need to basically start from scratch license wise?

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145



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RE: [WISPA] 6 Ghz Questions

2007-10-14 Thread Gino Villarini
Btw:

Anyone know how to fit to 6 ghz links into one antenna? Is there a 6ghz
combiner?

Gino A. Villarini
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Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 12:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 6 Ghz Questions

Hi,

I would contact MicroNet (www.micronetcom.com) and see. My guess would 
be because you are moving the locations is that you would have to start 
from scratch. New path analysis, new licenses. Total cost is probably 
$2,500.

Travis
Microserv

Gino Villarini wrote:
 Hey List

 I don't have much experience with licensed 6 ghz  so I have the
 following question based on this scenario:

 I have the opportunity to acquire a couple of underused 6ghz microwave
 paths.  They are based on Harris DS3 equipment. They are currently
 installed on towers that are about 500 to 1500 feet from my towers.
As
 you may expect, I wish to move those antennas and paths to my towers
in
 order to save on tower rent.

 Would this affect in any way the FCC license?
 What would be the procedure to solicit a move?
 Would I need to basically start from scratch license wise?

 Gino A. Villarini
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145





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Re: [WISPA] 6 Ghz Questions

2007-10-14 Thread Travis Johnson




Hi,

I think even without going to decimal notation on the GPS coordinates,
they are still accurate to within 100 feet.

Also, if the towers they are on now have FCC numbers, then the licenses
would have been tied to those FCC tower numbers as well.

Travis
Microserv

Gino Villarini wrote:

  Well that's what I thought, but due to the limited availability of 6ghz
in the area, I might up end empty handed!.  I thought that since the GPS
cords provided to the FCC in the path description are not that accurate,
I could make a location change within x amount of feet.

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 12:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 6 Ghz Questions

Hi,

I would contact MicroNet (www.micronetcom.com) and see. My guess would 
be because you are moving the locations is that you would have to start 
from scratch. New path analysis, new licenses. Total cost is probably 
$2,500.

Travis
Microserv

Gino Villarini wrote:
  
  
Hey List

I don't have much experience with licensed 6 ghz  so I have the
following question based on this scenario:

I have the opportunity to acquire a couple of underused 6ghz microwave
paths.  They are based on Harris DS3 equipment. They are currently
installed on towers that are about 500 to 1500 feet from my towers.

  
  As
  
  
you may expect, I wish to move those antennas and paths to my towers

  
  in
  
  
order to save on tower rent.

Would this affect in any way the FCC license?
What would be the procedure to solicit a move?
Would I need to basically start from scratch license wise?

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145



  
  

  
  
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RE: [WISPA] 6 Ghz Questions

2007-10-14 Thread Gino Villarini
Ohh yes, got that I guess I'll have to stick to those locations, Ill
check with Micronet.

 

Do you know of a way to use 1 6ghz antenna with 2 xmts?

 

Gino A. Villarini 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 12:23 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 6 Ghz Questions

 

Hi,

I think even without going to decimal notation on the GPS coordinates,
they are still accurate to within 100 feet.

Also, if the towers they are on now have FCC numbers, then the licenses
would have been tied to those FCC tower numbers as well.

Travis
Microserv

Gino Villarini wrote: 

Well that's what I thought, but due to the limited availability of 6ghz
in the area, I might up end empty handed!.  I thought that since the GPS
cords provided to the FCC in the path description are not that accurate,
I could make a location change within x amount of feet.
 
Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 12:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 6 Ghz Questions
 
Hi,
 
I would contact MicroNet (www.micronetcom.com) and see. My guess would 
be because you are moving the locations is that you would have to start 
from scratch. New path analysis, new licenses. Total cost is probably 
$2,500.
 
Travis
Microserv
 
Gino Villarini wrote:
  

Hey List
 
I don't have much experience with licensed 6 ghz  so I have the
following question based on this scenario:
 
I have the opportunity to acquire a couple of underused 6ghz
microwave
paths.  They are based on Harris DS3 equipment. They are
currently
installed on towers that are about 500 to 1500 feet from my
towers.


As
  

you may expect, I wish to move those antennas and paths to my
towers


in
  

order to save on tower rent.
 
Would this affect in any way the FCC license?
What would be the procedure to solicit a move?
Would I need to basically start from scratch license wise?
 
Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
 
 




  

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RE: [WISPA] 6 Ghz Questions

2007-10-14 Thread Charles Wu
1. yes

2. licenses are done on a per-site basis...since you are moving the
site, it would be treated as a new license (there is a possibility that
you could claim rounding error for the path move, but I would imagine
it is more than likely that a tower large enough to hold solid parabolic
6' would be registered already under the FCC with a call sign and then
that would be almost impossible to pull off)

3. yes 

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Subject: [WISPA] 6 Ghz Questions

Hey List

I don't have much experience with licensed 6 ghz  so I have the
following question based on this scenario:

I have the opportunity to acquire a couple of underused 6ghz microwave
paths.  They are based on Harris DS3 equipment. They are currently
installed on towers that are about 500 to 1500 feet from my towers.  As
you may expect, I wish to move those antennas and paths to my towers in
order to save on tower rent.

Would this affect in any way the FCC license?
What would be the procedure to solicit a move?
Would I need to basically start from scratch license wise?

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145




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RE: [WISPA] 6 Ghz Questions

2007-10-14 Thread Charles Wu
Regarding the 6 GHz license, you could just recoordinate on that
frequency...the only person who would object would be the license
holder, who shouldn't if you're buying the radios / license from them =)

-Charles 

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Well that's what I thought, but due to the limited availability of 6ghz
in the area, I might up end empty handed!.  I thought that since the GPS
cords provided to the FCC in the path description are not that accurate,
I could make a location change within x amount of feet.

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 12:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 6 Ghz Questions

Hi,

I would contact MicroNet (www.micronetcom.com) and see. My guess would
be because you are moving the locations is that you would have to start
from scratch. New path analysis, new licenses. Total cost is probably
$2,500.

Travis
Microserv

Gino Villarini wrote:
 Hey List

 I don't have much experience with licensed 6 ghz  so I have the 
 following question based on this scenario:

 I have the opportunity to acquire a couple of underused 6ghz microwave

 paths.  They are based on Harris DS3 equipment. They are currently 
 installed on towers that are about 500 to 1500 feet from my towers.
As
 you may expect, I wish to move those antennas and paths to my towers
in
 order to save on tower rent.

 Would this affect in any way the FCC license?
 What would be the procedure to solicit a move?
 Would I need to basically start from scratch license wise?

 Gino A. Villarini
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145





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