Re: [WISPA] AirGrids
No. Do you mean in the LED strip? I bet they have that in the mix since the Bullet issues. I lost one myself to water and I had that baby taped up good but the strip was still exposed. Lesson learned from that, I smear the clear RTV on them now, just to be sure.! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Profito Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:54 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] AirGrids Robert, Did he mention if they might put some silicone in the holes before labeling? Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC Cprofito at cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:58 AM To: spie...@avolve.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] AirGrids Well, first off I talked to Ben over at UBNT last night and he said they are changing the design with the next batch so that the LEDs are down facing. The issue is, there are two locking tabs that snap in for either horizontal or vertical polarization so you are limited to how it's oriented. The antenna feed is one part and it snaps into the feed retainer that is attached to the grid. The retainer protrudes through the rear of the grid and ends with the port for the Cat5 to enter and a couple of small drain holes. These are not on the very end but on a flat spot on the bottom of the retainer. Flip the antenna so that the LEDs are facing down then the drain holes and Cat5 entry hole is now facing UP. The old, "Damned if you do and damned if you don't" But they are fixing the issue. One of those things they can't see unless they are in the field. I'm sure the lights being up made sense sitting in an office looking at the thing from above. If I'm looking at an antenna from above, I'm either high up on a tower or I'm trying to install it in a hole. :) I played with the 65 foot cable limit last night too. Used a 100' cable and the USB PoE will power it but just enough for the lights to come on, no communication with it. Tried a 9v, 12v and a 15v PoE. 9 and 12 worked fine but the 15V made it yell at me. I settled on a 9V injector and my test unit has been working fine since last night. Ben said the PoE they will be offering as an option starts out at 5V. I asked for a possible chart from them on suggested voltage VS. cable length so we don't fry them out of trial and error. He mentioned they are working on design to allow it to use the 24v PoE... I'm actually thinking of swapping out a pac grid and MT box back haul from a solar site to see how the power drain is from these since they require such a low voltage. In all, I installed 2 last night and they were great! The mounting hardware is beefy and says "quality". The unit doesn't feel clunky at all, unlike most of the Pac Wireless grids and the install went fast with the radio and grid being just one unit. The first install took a whole 20 minutes including running the cable and drilling a hole. Of course it was a cable run of only 50 feet, not a big job, but was still quick. I'm sold on them. Still gotta use the Mikrotik though, the Dude server rocks. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] AirGrids Having not seeing one in person, can't you just flip it 180* so the lights face down ? I take it the answer is no, but I was just wondering why. -- Original Message -- From: "Robert West" Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:01:05 -0500 >Installing some UBNT AirGrids this weekend. First thing I see is that when >I assemble for horizontal polarity the LED strip is now facing UP, as in >looking at the sky. Not able to see the power light from the ground or any >RSSI. Second issue, we all know the water issue with the new bullets, >getting in through the LED strip. In horizontal, the strip is facing up. >Makes more sense to face it all down. I also see a need to wrap with tape >where the feed and the feed support meet. > > > >Just first impressions. > > > >Bob- > > > >Just Micro.NET > > > > > >--- - >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ >--- - > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http:
Re: [WISPA] AirGrids
Robert, Did he mention if they might put some silicone in the holes before labeling? Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC Cprofito at cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:58 AM To: spie...@avolve.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] AirGrids Well, first off I talked to Ben over at UBNT last night and he said they are changing the design with the next batch so that the LEDs are down facing. The issue is, there are two locking tabs that snap in for either horizontal or vertical polarization so you are limited to how it's oriented. The antenna feed is one part and it snaps into the feed retainer that is attached to the grid. The retainer protrudes through the rear of the grid and ends with the port for the Cat5 to enter and a couple of small drain holes. These are not on the very end but on a flat spot on the bottom of the retainer. Flip the antenna so that the LEDs are facing down then the drain holes and Cat5 entry hole is now facing UP. The old, "Damned if you do and damned if you don't" But they are fixing the issue. One of those things they can't see unless they are in the field. I'm sure the lights being up made sense sitting in an office looking at the thing from above. If I'm looking at an antenna from above, I'm either high up on a tower or I'm trying to install it in a hole. :) I played with the 65 foot cable limit last night too. Used a 100' cable and the USB PoE will power it but just enough for the lights to come on, no communication with it. Tried a 9v, 12v and a 15v PoE. 9 and 12 worked fine but the 15V made it yell at me. I settled on a 9V injector and my test unit has been working fine since last night. Ben said the PoE they will be offering as an option starts out at 5V. I asked for a possible chart from them on suggested voltage VS. cable length so we don't fry them out of trial and error. He mentioned they are working on design to allow it to use the 24v PoE... I'm actually thinking of swapping out a pac grid and MT box back haul from a solar site to see how the power drain is from these since they require such a low voltage. In all, I installed 2 last night and they were great! The mounting hardware is beefy and says "quality". The unit doesn't feel clunky at all, unlike most of the Pac Wireless grids and the install went fast with the radio and grid being just one unit. The first install took a whole 20 minutes including running the cable and drilling a hole. Of course it was a cable run of only 50 feet, not a big job, but was still quick. I'm sold on them. Still gotta use the Mikrotik though, the Dude server rocks. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] AirGrids Having not seeing one in person, can't you just flip it 180* so the lights face down ? I take it the answer is no, but I was just wondering why. -- Original Message -- From: "Robert West" Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:01:05 -0500 >Installing some UBNT AirGrids this weekend. First thing I see is that when >I assemble for horizontal polarity the LED strip is now facing UP, as in >looking at the sky. Not able to see the power light from the ground or any >RSSI. Second issue, we all know the water issue with the new bullets, >getting in through the LED strip. In horizontal, the strip is facing up. >Makes more sense to face it all down. I also see a need to wrap with tape >where the feed and the feed support meet. > > > >Just first impressions. > > > >Bob- > > > >Just Micro.NET > > > > > >--- - >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ >--- - > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://l
Re: [WISPA] AirGrids
Well, first off I talked to Ben over at UBNT last night and he said they are changing the design with the next batch so that the LEDs are down facing. The issue is, there are two locking tabs that snap in for either horizontal or vertical polarization so you are limited to how it's oriented. The antenna feed is one part and it snaps into the feed retainer that is attached to the grid. The retainer protrudes through the rear of the grid and ends with the port for the Cat5 to enter and a couple of small drain holes. These are not on the very end but on a flat spot on the bottom of the retainer. Flip the antenna so that the LEDs are facing down then the drain holes and Cat5 entry hole is now facing UP. The old, "Damned if you do and damned if you don't" But they are fixing the issue. One of those things they can't see unless they are in the field. I'm sure the lights being up made sense sitting in an office looking at the thing from above. If I'm looking at an antenna from above, I'm either high up on a tower or I'm trying to install it in a hole. :) I played with the 65 foot cable limit last night too. Used a 100' cable and the USB PoE will power it but just enough for the lights to come on, no communication with it. Tried a 9v, 12v and a 15v PoE. 9 and 12 worked fine but the 15V made it yell at me. I settled on a 9V injector and my test unit has been working fine since last night. Ben said the PoE they will be offering as an option starts out at 5V. I asked for a possible chart from them on suggested voltage VS. cable length so we don't fry them out of trial and error. He mentioned they are working on design to allow it to use the 24v PoE... I'm actually thinking of swapping out a pac grid and MT box back haul from a solar site to see how the power drain is from these since they require such a low voltage. In all, I installed 2 last night and they were great! The mounting hardware is beefy and says "quality". The unit doesn't feel clunky at all, unlike most of the Pac Wireless grids and the install went fast with the radio and grid being just one unit. The first install took a whole 20 minutes including running the cable and drilling a hole. Of course it was a cable run of only 50 feet, not a big job, but was still quick. I'm sold on them. Still gotta use the Mikrotik though, the Dude server rocks. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] AirGrids Having not seeing one in person, can't you just flip it 180* so the lights face down ? I take it the answer is no, but I was just wondering why. -- Original Message -- From: "Robert West" Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:01:05 -0500 >Installing some UBNT AirGrids this weekend. First thing I see is that when >I assemble for horizontal polarity the LED strip is now facing UP, as in >looking at the sky. Not able to see the power light from the ground or any >RSSI. Second issue, we all know the water issue with the new bullets, >getting in through the LED strip. In horizontal, the strip is facing up. >Makes more sense to face it all down. I also see a need to wrap with tape >where the feed and the feed support meet. > > > >Just first impressions. > > > >Bob- > > > >Just Micro.NET > > > > > >--- - >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ >--- - > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] AirGrids
Having not seeing one in person, can't you just flip it 180* so the lights face down ? I take it the answer is no, but I was just wondering why. -- Original Message -- From: "Robert West" Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:01:05 -0500 >Installing some UBNT AirGrids this weekend. First thing I see is that when >I assemble for horizontal polarity the LED strip is now facing UP, as in >looking at the sky. Not able to see the power light from the ground or any >RSSI. Second issue, we all know the water issue with the new bullets, >getting in through the LED strip. In horizontal, the strip is facing up. >Makes more sense to face it all down. I also see a need to wrap with tape >where the feed and the feed support meet. > > > >Just first impressions. > > > >Bob- > > > >Just Micro.NET > > > > > > >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ > > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] AirGrids
Installing some UBNT AirGrids this weekend. First thing I see is that when I assemble for horizontal polarity the LED strip is now facing UP, as in looking at the sky. Not able to see the power light from the ground or any RSSI. Second issue, we all know the water issue with the new bullets, getting in through the LED strip. In horizontal, the strip is facing up. Makes more sense to face it all down. I also see a need to wrap with tape where the feed and the feed support meet. Just first impressions. Bob- Just Micro.NET WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/