Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mounts

2011-10-12 Thread Tom DeReggi
Troy,

With Andrews dishes, you can get away with smaller diameter pipe than spec'd or 
other brands such as RadioWaves require. In several cases, This benefit was a 
primary factor that led us to bypass our standard product line, in favor of a 
radio brand that supported Anderws dishes, in order to meet a cosmetic, space, 
or mounting challenge requirement.

It should be noted that from an engineering point of view, mounting to a narrow 
tower leg (maybe 2-3", to a 4.5" diameter mast, to a dish, does not strengthen 
windloading, as you are still limited to the strength of the weakest link which 
is the connection to the narrower 2-3" tower leg, except because the antenna 
offsets further away, the leverage is greater, making the force at the narrower 
tower leg even worse.  I challenge antenna manufactuer's decission to 
standarize on 4.5" dia masts, but unfortuantely it is what they usually do.  
With that said

A common acceptable practice is to use a short 4.5" dia mast in between the 
tower and antenna, as described above.  I highly recommend using galvanized 
pipe. It can be found at Tessco or Special ordered from local metal/farming 
supply stores such as "Standard Supply".  Avoid non-galvanized pipe if you can. 
 

It can be really expensive to ship 4.5" pole, which is why its a good idea to 
try and find a local supply store. Choices are limited for galvanized

We buy the pole to pole mounts from Valemount Microflect or Tessco.   Its 
important to buy strong pole to pole mounts, that have significant surface area 
on multiple points of the mast to prevent rotation. I will almost always use 
more than 2 mounts between the tower and the 4.5" mast.  Usually 3 will be 
fine, but sometimes I'll double it up to 4, if the antenna is heavilly offset 
to one side and resulting in mast tilt.  Do not just rely on the stablizer bar 
to prevent pivoting. Use good solid pole to pole mounts.  Valemounts store 
sitepro has a few models to choose from.

One type uses all-thread that passes through 4 v-shaped metal plates, secured 
with nuts. This gives the advantage to vary the offset distance between tower 
and mast.
This can be helpful to prevent antenna/mount parts from banging into the second 
pole, when aligning. I highly recommend using nothing smaller than 5/8" 
all-thread.
Obviously this requires a two mount kit, one for top one for bottom. But 
doubling up each of the two mount points, increases a mount point from 2 to 4 
allthreads, preventing a square that is stronger against twisting/slanting, 
than just a single 

The antenna will lock down super tight on the 4.5" mast.  But you need to make 
sure the 4.5" pipe doesn't pivot on the tower. 

Usually the way it is installed is. The mast gets mounted to the tower 
first, with two mounts on the bottom fastened. Then the 4 ft dish is raised 
above the mount, and slid down onto the mast from the top. Then the top pole to 
pole mount can be installed. After that is done then the stablizer bar is 
installed.

If only mounting a 3" dish, if there is a 3" dia tower leg or wall mast, I'll 
usually mount the antenna direct to the tower leg or wall mast, without using a 
4.5" pole in between, its actually stronger that way, if its supportable or 
jimmy riggable to do that. I know the Andrews 3ft are.

With 4' dishes, its worth following spec and using the 4.5" mast.

Andrews sells the stabilizer bar kits as a standard part number.

With that said...All Trango brand 3 and 4 foot dishes all come with stablizer 
bars. If you ever get a chance to look at one, I suggest doing so. It 
demonstrates a good design, on how it accommmodates mounting to different 
positioned angles mount points. It probably could be replicated from hardware 
store parts.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


  - Original Message ----- 
  From: Troy Settle 
  To: wireless@wispa.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:45 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] Antenna Mounts


  Can anyone point me to a specific antenna mounting kit for 3 and 4' Andrew 
dishes?  I've been advised to mount both on a 4" pipe directly on the tower, 
but as this is my first construction project, I'm more than a little lost on 
the specifics.

   

  Of course the consultants and contractors on this project are being very 
vague with their answers, and about the only thing I've heard from the vendor, 
was a mention of "stabilizer bars."

   

  Thanks,

   

  -Troy

   



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Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mounts

2011-10-12 Thread Matt Jenkins


  
  
To mount a Andrew 3' dish with the included Andrew mounting kit you
need the following:

1x about a 4' length of 4.5inch outer diameter schedule 20 or 40
pipe. 
2x http://wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=33

There are other mounting kits for the andrew antenna's, but they are
a pain to find. 

On 10/12/2011 11:45 AM, Troy Settle wrote:

  
  
  
  
Can anyone point me to a specific antenna
  mounting kit for 3 and 4’ Andrew dishes?  I’ve been advised to
  mount both on a 4” pipe directly on the tower, but as this is
  my first construction project, I’m more than a little lost on
  the specifics.
 
Of course the consultants and contractors
  on this project are being very vague with their answers, and
  about the only thing I’ve heard from the vendor, was a mention
  of “stabilizer bars.”
 
Thanks,
 
-Troy
 
  
  




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Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mounts

2011-10-12 Thread Cameron Crum
Why don't you call Commscope?

Cameron

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Troy Settle wrote:

> Can anyone point me to a specific antenna mounting kit for 3 and 4’ Andrew
> dishes?  I’ve been advised to mount both on a 4” pipe directly on the tower,
> but as this is my first construction project, I’m more than a little lost on
> the specifics.
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> Of course the consultants and contractors on this project are being very
> vague with their answers, and about the only thing I’ve heard from the
> vendor, was a mention of “stabilizer bars.”
>
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>
> Thanks,
>
> ** **
>
> -Troy
>
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[WISPA] Antenna Mounts

2011-10-12 Thread Troy Settle
Can anyone point me to a specific antenna mounting kit for 3 and 4' Andrew
dishes?  I've been advised to mount both on a 4" pipe directly on the tower,
but as this is my first construction project, I'm more than a little lost on
the specifics.

 

Of course the consultants and contractors on this project are being very
vague with their answers, and about the only thing I've heard from the
vendor, was a mention of "stabilizer bars."

 

Thanks,

 

-Troy

 




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[WISPA] Antenna Mounts for Elevated Water Tower Tanks

2009-02-18 Thread Ron Wallace

To All,

Overpast I have seen antenna mounts on a number of H20 towers - Tank type 
-constructed by WISP's. Does anyone have pictures? Drawings, etc. Ihave a 
meeting with a local township to place our facilities on theirwater tower. And 
I need to write a proposal for the board. 

If you all could help me, yet again, that would be great. Thank you in advance.

Ron Wallace
Hahnron, Inc.
220 S. Jackson Dt.
Addison, MI 49220

Phone: (517)547-8410
Mobile: (517)270-2410
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