Re: [WISPA] Anyone ever had your phone number spoofed?

2016-10-21 Thread Fred Goldstein 

On 10/21/2016 10:09 PM, Civano Coffee House wrote:

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And this is exactly why they continue to get away with this kind of 
fraud, the government is selective on who they will let report it. If 
you’re a person called and try to file a report they throw another 
obstacle in the way.




The government wishes they could do something about number spoofing. 
There is a task force working on it, but it probably will only work on 
SIP networks, not the SS7-based PSTN, mainly because there's so little 
investment being made in maintaining that.


But the design of the PSTN is not terribly secure. Caller ID is asserted 
by the originating device or carrier. An originating carrier could 
screen it to be sure that the number is one that the caller owns, but 
they never do, and you have to bear in mind that incoming and outgoing 
calls may go through different carriers, so the outgoing carrier has no 
way of knowing your incoming numbers.


Even if the originating carrier verified the number, calls are sometimes 
passed through multiple carriers between origination and destination. 
More room for shenanigans... you can't really tell who the originating 
carrier is, especially if it arrives VoIP.


The calling party name is a totally different beast. This is NOT passed 
across the PSTN. In the FCC's infinite wisdom a couple of decades ago, 
they let the network pass the number while the terminating carrier, who 
sells Caller ID with Name as a premium service to its own customer, 
looks up the name in a table. They can of course query the originating 
carrier's Line Information Database to get the canonical result, but 
carriers charge huge fees for that. So instead you have all sorts of 
weird caches of names lying around, some years old, and your carrier may 
thus be using old, or wrong, information.


It's all very freedom-y.

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
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*Sent:* Friday, October 21, 2016 10:13 AM
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*Subject:* [WISPA] Anyone ever had your phone number spoofed?

Yesterday we started receiving a large number of calls saying that we 
were calling them and they got disconnected or talked to someone who 
tried to scam them (yesterdays's scam was a government grant sent to 
their nearest western union).


We called our provider (RingCentral) and they said our phone number 
had been spoofed.


Anyone ever had their number spoofed? How long did it last? Did you 
have to change your phone number?


This is the second day in a row. We changed our voice mail letting 
people know and asking them to call the FCC - we called the FCC 
yesterday and reported it, but they need the people receiving the 
calls to call and complain.


any thoughts appreciated.

Martha

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Re: [WISPA] Anyone ever had your phone number spoofed?

2016-10-21 Thread Civano Coffee House 
And this is exactly why they continue to get away with this kind of fraud, the 
government is selective on who they will let report it. If you’re a person 
called and try to file a report they throw another obstacle in the way.

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Martha Huizenga
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 10:13 AM
To: WISPA <memb...@wispa.org>; WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: [WISPA] Anyone ever had your phone number spoofed?

 

Yesterday we started receiving a large number of calls saying that we were 
calling them and they got disconnected or talked to someone who tried to scam 
them (yesterdays's scam was a government grant sent to their nearest western 
union).

We called our provider (RingCentral) and they said our phone number had been 
spoofed. 

Anyone ever had their number spoofed? How long did it last? Did you have to 
change your phone number? 

This is the second day in a row. We changed our voice mail letting people know 
and asking them to call the FCC - we called the FCC yesterday and reported it, 
but they need the people receiving the calls to call and complain.

any thoughts appreciated.

Martha

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Re: [WISPA] Anyone ever had your phone number spoofed?

2016-10-21 Thread Grand Avenue Broadband 
Spoofing a phone number is as easy as spoofing an email sender address.

(See spoofcard.com)

A malicious caller who wants to hide his phone number is often not that 
particular about who his phone number he pretends to be instead. You just got 
unlucky.

Don't expect to get help from the FCC. The government is happy to pass any law 
you want against this sort of abuse, they just can't be bothered to enforce any 
of them.


> On Oct 21, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Martha Huizenga  wrote:
> 
> Yesterday we started receiving a large number of calls saying that we were 
> calling them and they got disconnected or talked to someone who tried to scam 
> them (yesterdays's scam was a government grant sent to their nearest 
> western union).
> 
> We called our provider (RingCentral) and they said our phone number had been 
> spoofed. 
> 
> Anyone ever had their number spoofed? How long did it last? Did you have to 
> change your phone number? 
> 
> This is the second day in a row. We changed our voice mail letting people 
> know and asking them to call the FCC - we called the FCC yesterday and 
> reported it, but they need the people receiving the calls to call and 
> complain.
> 
> any thoughts appreciated.
> 
> Martha
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> Martha Huizenga
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> 202-546-5898
> DC Access
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone ever had your phone number spoofed?

2016-10-21 Thread Mike Hammett 
I don't know of it being spoofed, but spoofing phone numbers is even easier 
than spoofing IP addresses. ;-) 




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From: "Martha Huizenga" <wispli...@dcaccess.net> 
To: "WISPA" <memb...@wispa.org>, "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> 
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 12:12:33 PM 
Subject: [WISPA] Anyone ever had your phone number spoofed? 

Yesterday we started receiving a large number of calls saying that we were 
calling them and they got disconnected or talked to someone who tried to scam 
them (yesterdays's scam was a government grant sent to their nearest western 
union). 

We called our provider (RingCentral) and they said our phone number had been 
spoofed. 

Anyone ever had their number spoofed? How long did it last? Did you have to 
change your phone number? 

This is the second day in a row. We changed our voice mail letting people know 
and asking them to call the FCC - we called the FCC yesterday and reported it, 
but they need the people receiving the calls to call and complain. 

any thoughts appreciated. 

Martha 

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[WISPA] Anyone ever had your phone number spoofed?

2016-10-21 Thread Martha Huizenga 
Yesterday we started receiving a large number of calls saying that we 
were calling them and they got disconnected or talked to someone who 
tried to scam them (yesterdays's scam was a government grant sent to 
their nearest western union).


We called our provider (RingCentral) and they said our phone number had 
been spoofed.


Anyone ever had their number spoofed? How long did it last? Did you have 
to change your phone number?


This is the second day in a row. We changed our voice mail letting 
people know and asking them to call the FCC - we called the FCC 
yesterday and reported it, but they need the people receiving the calls 
to call and complain.


any thoughts appreciated.

Martha
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