Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation ofnet-neutrality
Matt, Well said. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta mlio...@r337.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation ofnet-neutrality On Feb 5, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Chuck Bartosch wrote: That statement completely ignores history. The tendency of any unconstrained capitalist is to form a monopoly. Hell, *I'd* do it if I could ;-). And unconstrained capitalism that achieves a monopoly rarely acts in its customers own best interests. If nothing else, it's in our society's interest to prevent monopolies because innovation stagnates in a monoploy situation. It should be every capitalist desire to become a monopolist. The government's role should be to encourage businesses to innovate and grow towards being a monopoly while hoping the market has sufficient competition to stop that ultimate result. If not, then step in to prevent the monopoly from abusing its position. The government must only set the rules of the game and ensure market fairness through their rules. The government shouldn't participate in the market either with its own entity or by picking winners and losers through its actions. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation ofnet-neutrality
At least in Outlook -- Tools/Rules and Alerts/New Rule Create a new rule to send messages with this subject to a junk folder. Don't become a slave to your email. If you feel overwhelmed by volume on a certain subject just filter them. It is nice to have you on the list. I have learned bunches here too. Small business owners generally become quite passionate at times. Overworked, ever vigilant WISP operators are no exception. Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of jason bailey Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 10:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation ofnet-neutrality As a very small,but growing operator I have been following this list for quite some time.I rarely poke my nose in as I enjoy the VERY intelligent conversation that this list generates.I sometimes have to read 80 or more messages when I get through putting in 110% and picking up my Three kids after school as a single Dad and learn an unimaginable amount every day .I am saddened by the level that some will take a conversation to.I hope to see a political conversation as intense as this move elsewhere,But hey,I'm just a single person,not the whole group.I can't learn anything about the technical aspect of a WISP filtering the massive amount of email this topic has generated.If i'm out of line,someone tell me. Regards ,Jason Sent From My PrimeCo Phone --- On Fri, 2/5/10, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Subject: Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 10:44 PM There's never a NEED to accumulate power... ever. But, the greed and lust for more power is as old as politics itself. -- From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 1:21 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation ofnet-neutrality C'mon Jeff. There is NO NEED to accumulate power if you don't have excess people. jack Jeff Broadwick wrote: C'mon Jack, war is about trying to accumulate power, not get rid of excess people. Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 3:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality Your statement is true when there is NOT enough food, clothing or shelter for everybody. But when there IS enough food, clothing and shelter for everybody, there is no need for war in order to achieve temporary peace. This is why overpopulation is so bad - it creates war and makes real peace impossible. jack Brad Belton wrote: I would hope everyone would choose peace over war, but history has proven since the beginning of time that peace is achieved through war. Without a clearly defined Winner and Loser of war there will never be peace. Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 11:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality Good points. When I have to choose between guns (war) or butter (peace), I'll choose the butter. Robert West wrote: Life, Liberty, Property. Those were the basics that our government was formed to protect for us. For the common defense. It's now morphed from the government For the people into people For the government. As long as there are greedy people and the what about mine? thinkers, it won't get any better. As far as the current situation I think we should bring back the war tax and the draft. Now hear me out on this Are we at war? Where? I dunno, I'm not involved in any way, shape or form. Not directly anyhow. So it continues to zap the life out of this country. We've sanitized the citizenry out of war thus it can go on forever without much thought from those of us out here trying to live our lives and put food on the table and pay for the folly of it all. If we had a war tax and kids were being drafted, we'd all be involved, more commonly polarized and I guarantee you we wouldn't be pouring billions every month down useless well. Just my crazy thoughts. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:38 PM To:
Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation ofnet-neutrality
I guess I might miss something! It is human nature to love DRAMA! Just thought It was getting a bit heated...Everyone seems to be amongst friends here.That's the best part.I'm in it for the long haul and have been for quite some time.I'm anxious to meet many on the list as we are all in this for many reasons,but Americans benefit from our existence.It's a challenge and nothing but the best job I can think of.I refuse to stand behind a machine and push buttons all day,And many jobs don't even come close to stimulating a single cell.Just want to say...keep up the good work and keep it friendly at the same time.Just remember most will likely end up at a convention with one another drinking someones fridge full of beer:) and it should be a good time! --- On Fri, 2/5/10, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation ofnet-neutrality To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 11:21 PM At least in Outlook -- Tools/Rules and Alerts/New Rule Create a new rule to send messages with this subject to a junk folder. Don't become a slave to your email. If you feel overwhelmed by volume on a certain subject just filter them. It is nice to have you on the list. I have learned bunches here too. Small business owners generally become quite passionate at times. Overworked, ever vigilant WISP operators are no exception. Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of jason bailey Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 10:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation ofnet-neutrality As a very small,but growing operator I have been following this list for quite some time.I rarely poke my nose in as I enjoy the VERY intelligent conversation that this list generates.I sometimes have to read 80 or more messages when I get through putting in 110% and picking up my Three kids after school as a single Dad and learn an unimaginable amount every day .I am saddened by the level that some will take a conversation to.I hope to see a political conversation as intense as this move elsewhere,But hey,I'm just a single person,not the whole group.I can't learn anything about the technical aspect of a WISP filtering the massive amount of email this topic has generated.If i'm out of line,someone tell me. Regards ,Jason Sent From My PrimeCo Phone --- On Fri, 2/5/10, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Subject: Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 10:44 PM There's never a NEED to accumulate power... ever. But, the greed and lust for more power is as old as politics itself. -- From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 1:21 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation ofnet-neutrality C'mon Jeff. There is NO NEED to accumulate power if you don't have excess people. jack Jeff Broadwick wrote: C'mon Jack, war is about trying to accumulate power, not get rid of excess people. Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 3:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality Your statement is true when there is NOT enough food, clothing or shelter for everybody. But when there IS enough food, clothing and shelter for everybody, there is no need for war in order to achieve temporary peace. This is why overpopulation is so bad - it creates war and makes real peace impossible. jack Brad Belton wrote: I would hope everyone would choose peace over war, but history has proven since the beginning of time that peace is achieved through war. Without a clearly defined Winner and Loser of war there will never be peace. Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 11:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality Good points. When I have to choose between guns (war) or butter (peace), I'll choose the butter. Robert West wrote: Life, Liberty, Property. Those were the basics that our government was formed to protect for us. For the common defense. It's now morphed from the government For the people into people For the government. As long as
