Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School

2009-08-17 Thread ccrum
You are right, but some simple router rules can prevent a lot of the ways
around it.

Cameron

 But easily defeated. New proxies are popping up all the time. Kids can
 even set up their own at home for their own use.

 On Aug 14, 2009, at 1:59 PM, ccrum wrote:

 OpenDNS is approved for this...best thing is it is free.

 Cameron

 Scott Carullo wrote:
 I need a web content filter for K-12 school.  Paid Subscription ok.

 Please let me know what good products there are for this
 requirement.  Need
 asap.  Thanks...

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 321-205-1100 x102



 
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Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School

2009-08-14 Thread Curtis Maurand

If you go to dansguardian.org, they have links to their commercial 
version.  These folks are also the folks that produce the smoothwall 
firewall system and they have a setup called schoolguard as well as 
preconfigured appliances.

--Curtis

Israel Lopez-LISTS wrote:
 I have to agree.  It seem that these hardware boxes that try to do 'all 
 in one' services (Routing, NAT, Firewall, AV, Content-Filtering, 
 Spam)... seem to fall on their face.  I know of a consultant buddy of 
 mine who implemented it, and hated every second of it.  He is still 
 cursing at it when it fails (AD Connector stops working requiring manual 
 resets of the box, etc,).

 -IL

 os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 I had some very bad experiences with SonicWall and their service/ 
 support. For one thing their basic content filter package was useless  
 because it did not block proxy sites. They expected us to pay hundreds  
 more a year for their premium filter package just to get the  
 functionality of their basic package to work. Discussions with  
 customer service/tech support fell on deaf ears. There were heated  
 discussions on the forum (everyone was fed up with SonicWall) but  
 SonicWall wouldn't budge. We got a little response from them when I  
 suggested to the forum that perhaps this topic would be a good start  
 for a class action lawsuit. I was using one of their lowest end  
 products at the time so maybe they give better support for their  
 higher end products. However I would never use SonicWall again.  
 There's many other competitors out there. There's a few products which  
 I don't recall the name of but they're specifically geared to  
 scholastic/library settings.

 For our filtering needs we switched to Untangle. Another we used and  
 liked was Astaro.

 Greg

 On Aug 13, 2009, at 7:31 AM, Jason Hensley wrote:

   
 
 Sonicwall has some outstanding products as far as an all-in-one  
 appliance
 for firewall, content filtering, spam, virus, etc etc.  I have one  
 in place
 for a school and our local library.  Make sure you get one with enough
 horse-power.  A small school may work fine with a TZ-200 or TZ-190,  
 but you
 get very large, and you will quickly end up needing more than that.

 Be glad to quote you out one if you needed.


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
 On
 Behalf Of Scott Carullo
 Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:35 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School


 I need a web content filter for K-12 school.  Paid Subscription ok.

 Please let me know what good products there are for this  
 requirement.  Need
 asap.  Thanks...

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 321-205-1100 x102



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School

2009-08-14 Thread ccrum
OpenDNS is approved for this...best thing is it is free.

Cameron

Scott Carullo wrote:
 I need a web content filter for K-12 school.  Paid Subscription ok.

 Please let me know what good products there are for this requirement.  Need 
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Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School

2009-08-14 Thread os10rules
But easily defeated. New proxies are popping up all the time. Kids can  
even set up their own at home for their own use.

On Aug 14, 2009, at 1:59 PM, ccrum wrote:

 OpenDNS is approved for this...best thing is it is free.

 Cameron

 Scott Carullo wrote:
 I need a web content filter for K-12 school.  Paid Subscription ok.

 Please let me know what good products there are for this  
 requirement.  Need
 asap.  Thanks...

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Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School

2009-08-13 Thread Israel Lopez-LISTS
OpenDNS works in a pinch.

However filters for all of DNS requests originating from one public IP 
(Students  Admins)... you could go Hardware Based Filtering... 
barracuda and or cymphonix boxes as well.

-Israel

Scott Carullo wrote:
 I need a web content filter for K-12 school.  Paid Subscription ok.

 Please let me know what good products there are for this requirement.  Need 
 asap.  Thanks...

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Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School

2009-08-13 Thread Jason Hensley
Sonicwall has some outstanding products as far as an all-in-one appliance
for firewall, content filtering, spam, virus, etc etc.  I have one in place
for a school and our local library.  Make sure you get one with enough
horse-power.  A small school may work fine with a TZ-200 or TZ-190, but you
get very large, and you will quickly end up needing more than that.  

Be glad to quote you out one if you needed. 


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Scott Carullo
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:35 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School


I need a web content filter for K-12 school.  Paid Subscription ok.

Please let me know what good products there are for this requirement.  Need 
asap.  Thanks...

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Brevard Wireless
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Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School

2009-08-13 Thread Eje Gustafsson
Got to love it another product with no price on the website.. Looks cool
though but I hate having to deal with push sales people just to find a price
and then have them call and spam me day in and day out for years to come. 

So do you know what the product costs? 

/ Eje

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:10 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School

I can recommend the 8e6 devices (http://www.marshal8e6.com).   The thing 
I really like about it is the way you can put it in listen mode 
instead of inline and still get great security.  It watches on a 
mirrored port, and will intercept bad requests and hijack the reply 
with a block page redirect.  We've used their solutions for over 10 
years (since they were called XStop), no complaints at all.

http://www.marshal8e6.com/solutions/web_security/8e6-r3000-internet-filter.a
sp

Goes way beyond web blocking as well.



Jason Hensley wrote:
 Sonicwall has some outstanding products as far as an all-in-one appliance
 for firewall, content filtering, spam, virus, etc etc.  I have one in
place
 for a school and our local library.  Make sure you get one with enough
 horse-power.  A small school may work fine with a TZ-200 or TZ-190, but
you
 get very large, and you will quickly end up needing more than that.  

 Be glad to quote you out one if you needed. 


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Scott Carullo
 Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:35 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School


 I need a web content filter for K-12 school.  Paid Subscription ok.

 Please let me know what good products there are for this requirement.
Need 
 asap.  Thanks...

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 321-205-1100 x102





 
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Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School

2009-08-13 Thread Frank Muto
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- Original Message - 
From: Israel Lopez-LISTS ilopezli...@sandboxitsolutions.com
To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:46 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School


 OpenDNS works in a pinch.
 
 However filters for all of DNS requests originating from one public IP 
 (Students  Admins)... you could go Hardware Based Filtering... 
 barracuda and or cymphonix boxes as well.
 
 -Israel
 
 Scott Carullo wrote:
 I need a web content filter for K-12 school.  Paid Subscription ok.

 Please let me know what good products there are for this requirement.  Need 
 asap.  Thanks...

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
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Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School

2009-08-13 Thread Randy Cosby
I honestly don't, it's been so long since we got started with them, and 
we did a 5-year support/update contract last go-around.

It's not as cheap as many other solutions out there, but it just plain 
works and is VERY scalable.  One other feature I didn't mention is that 
we are able to have it watch radius request the go by it.  We can put 
in a custom radius reply string that specifies whether a given IP should 
be filtered or not, and if so, what customizations that IP should have.  
For example, we might block social networking sites for one company, 
while another may want myspace unblocked, but others blocked. 

Because it doesn't sit in the path, it doesn't delay traffic at all, and 
is not a point of failure that can take you down.  You don't have to 
custom route netblocks through the device, so 10.100.100.5 might be 
filtered while 10.100.100.6 is not, easy as pie.

I'm just saying, this is one case where it may be worth it to talk to 
them.  Our school district went with it after trying many other 
solutions and is happy as well. 

And I don't get any credit / discounts for recommending it (but I will 
ask :) ).

Randy


Eje Gustafsson wrote:
 Got to love it another product with no price on the website.. Looks cool
 though but I hate having to deal with push sales people just to find a price
 and then have them call and spam me day in and day out for years to come. 

 So do you know what the product costs? 

 / Eje

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Randy Cosby
 Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:10 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School

 I can recommend the 8e6 devices (http://www.marshal8e6.com).   The thing 
 I really like about it is the way you can put it in listen mode 
 instead of inline and still get great security.  It watches on a 
 mirrored port, and will intercept bad requests and hijack the reply 
 with a block page redirect.  We've used their solutions for over 10 
 years (since they were called XStop), no complaints at all.

 http://www.marshal8e6.com/solutions/web_security/8e6-r3000-internet-filter.a
 sp

 Goes way beyond web blocking as well.



 Jason Hensley wrote:
   
 Sonicwall has some outstanding products as far as an all-in-one appliance
 for firewall, content filtering, spam, virus, etc etc.  I have one in
 
 place
   
 for a school and our local library.  Make sure you get one with enough
 horse-power.  A small school may work fine with a TZ-200 or TZ-190, but
 
 you
   
 get very large, and you will quickly end up needing more than that.  

 Be glad to quote you out one if you needed. 


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Scott Carullo
 Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:35 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School


 I need a web content filter for K-12 school.  Paid Subscription ok.

 Please let me know what good products there are for this requirement.
 
 Need 
   
 asap.  Thanks...

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 321-205-1100 x102




 
 
   
 
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Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School

2009-08-13 Thread Curtis Maurand
I've also used dansguardian.  Its free.

http://dansguardian.org/

Cheers,
Curtis


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 - Original Message - 
 From: Israel Lopez-LISTS ilopezli...@sandboxitsolutions.com
 To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:46 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School


   
 OpenDNS works in a pinch.

 However filters for all of DNS requests originating from one public IP 
 (Students  Admins)... you could go Hardware Based Filtering... 
 barracuda and or cymphonix boxes as well.

 -Israel

 Scott Carullo wrote:
 
 I need a web content filter for K-12 school.  Paid Subscription ok.

 Please let me know what good products there are for this requirement.  Need 
 asap.  Thanks...

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 321-205-1100 x102



 
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Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School

2009-08-13 Thread Adam Kennedy
I second DansGuardian. If you are looking for an easy-to-use
configuration tool for it, download/install Webmin (www.webmin.org) then
install the DansGuardian webmin module
(http://www.sf.net/projects/dgwebminmodule)

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-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:00 PM
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I've also used dansguardian.  Its free.

http://dansguardian.org/

Cheers,
Curtis


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 - Original Message - 
 From: Israel Lopez-LISTS ilopezli...@sandboxitsolutions.com
 To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List
wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:46 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School


   
 OpenDNS works in a pinch.

 However filters for all of DNS requests originating from one public
IP 
 (Students  Admins)... you could go Hardware Based Filtering... 
 barracuda and or cymphonix boxes as well.

 -Israel

 Scott Carullo wrote:
 
 I need a web content filter for K-12 school.  Paid Subscription ok.

 Please let me know what good products there are for this
requirement.  Need 
 asap.  Thanks...

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 321-205-1100 x102






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Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School

2009-08-13 Thread os10rules
I had some very bad experiences with SonicWall and their service/ 
support. For one thing their basic content filter package was useless  
because it did not block proxy sites. They expected us to pay hundreds  
more a year for their premium filter package just to get the  
functionality of their basic package to work. Discussions with  
customer service/tech support fell on deaf ears. There were heated  
discussions on the forum (everyone was fed up with SonicWall) but  
SonicWall wouldn't budge. We got a little response from them when I  
suggested to the forum that perhaps this topic would be a good start  
for a class action lawsuit. I was using one of their lowest end  
products at the time so maybe they give better support for their  
higher end products. However I would never use SonicWall again.  
There's many other competitors out there. There's a few products which  
I don't recall the name of but they're specifically geared to  
scholastic/library settings.

For our filtering needs we switched to Untangle. Another we used and  
liked was Astaro.

Greg

On Aug 13, 2009, at 7:31 AM, Jason Hensley wrote:

 Sonicwall has some outstanding products as far as an all-in-one  
 appliance
 for firewall, content filtering, spam, virus, etc etc.  I have one  
 in place
 for a school and our local library.  Make sure you get one with enough
 horse-power.  A small school may work fine with a TZ-200 or TZ-190,  
 but you
 get very large, and you will quickly end up needing more than that.

 Be glad to quote you out one if you needed.


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
 On
 Behalf Of Scott Carullo
 Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:35 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School


 I need a web content filter for K-12 school.  Paid Subscription ok.

 Please let me know what good products there are for this  
 requirement.  Need
 asap.  Thanks...

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 321-205-1100 x102



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School

2009-08-13 Thread Israel Lopez-LISTS
I have to agree.  It seem that these hardware boxes that try to do 'all 
in one' services (Routing, NAT, Firewall, AV, Content-Filtering, 
Spam)... seem to fall on their face.  I know of a consultant buddy of 
mine who implemented it, and hated every second of it.  He is still 
cursing at it when it fails (AD Connector stops working requiring manual 
resets of the box, etc,).

-IL

os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had some very bad experiences with SonicWall and their service/ 
 support. For one thing their basic content filter package was useless  
 because it did not block proxy sites. They expected us to pay hundreds  
 more a year for their premium filter package just to get the  
 functionality of their basic package to work. Discussions with  
 customer service/tech support fell on deaf ears. There were heated  
 discussions on the forum (everyone was fed up with SonicWall) but  
 SonicWall wouldn't budge. We got a little response from them when I  
 suggested to the forum that perhaps this topic would be a good start  
 for a class action lawsuit. I was using one of their lowest end  
 products at the time so maybe they give better support for their  
 higher end products. However I would never use SonicWall again.  
 There's many other competitors out there. There's a few products which  
 I don't recall the name of but they're specifically geared to  
 scholastic/library settings.

 For our filtering needs we switched to Untangle. Another we used and  
 liked was Astaro.

 Greg

 On Aug 13, 2009, at 7:31 AM, Jason Hensley wrote:

   
 Sonicwall has some outstanding products as far as an all-in-one  
 appliance
 for firewall, content filtering, spam, virus, etc etc.  I have one  
 in place
 for a school and our local library.  Make sure you get one with enough
 horse-power.  A small school may work fine with a TZ-200 or TZ-190,  
 but you
 get very large, and you will quickly end up needing more than that.

 Be glad to quote you out one if you needed.


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
 On
 Behalf Of Scott Carullo
 Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:35 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School


 I need a web content filter for K-12 school.  Paid Subscription ok.

 Please let me know what good products there are for this  
 requirement.  Need
 asap.  Thanks...

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 321-205-1100 x102



 
 
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