Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?

2009-09-08 Thread Jayson Baker
I discovered that somewhere along the lines, MT added support for USB-based
GPS.  So I bought a $15 outdoor USB GPS off eBay.  We'll see next week if it
works.  MT docs said as long as it supports NMEA output (which this one did)
it'd work.

We don't need accuracy down to the nanosecond, but within a second or two.
We provide services to the local E911 PSAP, and need to make certain our end
matches theirs for VoIP, log files, etc.  For this app, we don't want to
rely on Internet-based NTP servers, as some of our application is not tied
to the public Internet.

Jayson

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:21 PM, ralph  wrote:

> The last time I looked into this, the GPS had to be one that output a 1 pps
> signal, and most didn't.
> Of course times could have changed (pun intended) and this isn't a
> requirement any longer.
> The GPS-35 from Garmin may meet your specs, I think, if it's still made.
>
> And BTW- if you happen to have a Canopy CMM in your network, it also has
> the
> NTP server derived from GPS built in.
>
> Ralph
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Jayson Baker
> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 5:23 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?
>
> Oh yeah, that's right, the MT will do that.
>
> Ok - any suggestions on an decent GPS receiver that is outdoor/weatherproof
> and has a serial connection?  I've found a bunch of USB, a couple that are
> serial and meant to go in a car (cigarette lighter & mag mount), and even
> more that aren't weatherproof.
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
>
> > We use the lastmile gear Ctm Poe gps sync device for our motorola canopy
> >
> > It has a built In Ntp server
> >
> > Sent from my Motorola Startac...
> >
> >
> > On Sep 8, 2009, at 11:25 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Mikrotik RouterBoard + serial GPS receiver, though not a boxed
> > > solution.
> > >
> > >
> > > -
> > > Mike Hammett
> > > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > > http://www.ics-il.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > From: "Jayson Baker" 
> > > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:41 PM
> > > To: "WISPA General List" 
> > > Subject: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?
> > >
> > >> Anyone know of a place to buy a rackmount NTP server that obtains
> > >> timing
> > >> from GPS?
> > >>
> > >> I spent a few minutes on Google and found a couple that were $1000+.
> > >>
> > >> The PCI cards can be had for about $50, antenna's are almost free
> > >> -- so
> > >> one
> > >> could build one, but I'd prefer an out of the box solution that
> > >> looks nice
> > >> in a rack.
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Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?

2009-09-08 Thread ralph
The last time I looked into this, the GPS had to be one that output a 1 pps
signal, and most didn't.
Of course times could have changed (pun intended) and this isn't a
requirement any longer.
The GPS-35 from Garmin may meet your specs, I think, if it's still made.

And BTW- if you happen to have a Canopy CMM in your network, it also has the
NTP server derived from GPS built in.

Ralph



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jayson Baker
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 5:23 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?

Oh yeah, that's right, the MT will do that.

Ok - any suggestions on an decent GPS receiver that is outdoor/weatherproof
and has a serial connection?  I've found a bunch of USB, a couple that are
serial and meant to go in a car (cigarette lighter & mag mount), and even
more that aren't weatherproof.

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

> We use the lastmile gear Ctm Poe gps sync device for our motorola canopy
>
> It has a built In Ntp server
>
> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>
>
> On Sep 8, 2009, at 11:25 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
> wrote:
>
> > Mikrotik RouterBoard + serial GPS receiver, though not a boxed
> > solution.
> >
> >
> > -
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --------------
> > From: "Jayson Baker" 
> > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:41 PM
> > To: "WISPA General List" 
> > Subject: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?
> >
> >> Anyone know of a place to buy a rackmount NTP server that obtains
> >> timing
> >> from GPS?
> >>
> >> I spent a few minutes on Google and found a couple that were $1000+.
> >>
> >> The PCI cards can be had for about $50, antenna's are almost free
> >> -- so
> >> one
> >> could build one, but I'd prefer an out of the box solution that
> >> looks nice
> >> in a rack.
> >>
> >> Jayson
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Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?

2009-09-08 Thread Jayson Baker
Oh yeah, that's right, the MT will do that.

Ok - any suggestions on an decent GPS receiver that is outdoor/weatherproof
and has a serial connection?  I've found a bunch of USB, a couple that are
serial and meant to go in a car (cigarette lighter & mag mount), and even
more that aren't weatherproof.

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

> We use the lastmile gear Ctm Poe gps sync device for our motorola canopy
>
> It has a built In Ntp server
>
> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>
>
> On Sep 8, 2009, at 11:25 AM, "Mike Hammett" 
> wrote:
>
> > Mikrotik RouterBoard + serial GPS receiver, though not a boxed
> > solution.
> >
> >
> > -
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --------------
> > From: "Jayson Baker" 
> > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:41 PM
> > To: "WISPA General List" 
> > Subject: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?
> >
> >> Anyone know of a place to buy a rackmount NTP server that obtains
> >> timing
> >> from GPS?
> >>
> >> I spent a few minutes on Google and found a couple that were $1000+.
> >>
> >> The PCI cards can be had for about $50, antenna's are almost free
> >> -- so
> >> one
> >> could build one, but I'd prefer an out of the box solution that
> >> looks nice
> >> in a rack.
> >>
> >> Jayson
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Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?

2009-09-08 Thread Gino Villarini
We use the lastmile gear Ctm Poe gps sync device for our motorola canopy

It has a built In Ntp server

Sent from my Motorola Startac...


On Sep 8, 2009, at 11:25 AM, "Mike Hammett"   
wrote:

> Mikrotik RouterBoard + serial GPS receiver, though not a boxed  
> solution.
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> --
> From: "Jayson Baker" 
> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:41 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?
>
>> Anyone know of a place to buy a rackmount NTP server that obtains  
>> timing
>> from GPS?
>>
>> I spent a few minutes on Google and found a couple that were $1000+.
>>
>> The PCI cards can be had for about $50, antenna's are almost free  
>> -- so
>> one
>> could build one, but I'd prefer an out of the box solution that  
>> looks nice
>> in a rack.
>>
>> Jayson
>>
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Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?

2009-09-08 Thread Mike Hammett
Mikrotik RouterBoard + serial GPS receiver, though not a boxed solution.


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From: "Jayson Baker" 
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:41 PM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?

> Anyone know of a place to buy a rackmount NTP server that obtains timing
> from GPS?
>
> I spent a few minutes on Google and found a couple that were $1000+.
>
> The PCI cards can be had for about $50, antenna's are almost free -- so 
> one
> could build one, but I'd prefer an out of the box solution that looks nice
> in a rack.
>
> Jayson
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Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?

2009-09-08 Thread Randy Cosby
We have one running on a FreeBSD server.  I'll have to look at how Aaron 
set it up, but I'm sure there are plenty of software packages out there 
that can do this.  http://time.qnan.org/ is a linux example. 

Mikrotiks can also act as GPS NTP time servers using the optional NTP 
server package.

http://www.mikrotik.com/testdocs/ros/3.0/system/gps.php - synching with 
GPS time
http://www.mikrotik.com/testdocs/ros/3.0/system/ntp.php - NTP server and 
client docs.





RickG wrote:
> Dont know the price but this is sweet -->
> http://www.ntp-time-server.com/time-servers/server-gps-clock.html
>
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Jayson Baker wrote:
>   
>> Anyone know of a place to buy a rackmount NTP server that obtains timing
>> from GPS?
>>
>> I spent a few minutes on Google and found a couple that were $1000+.
>>
>> The PCI cards can be had for about $50, antenna's are almost free -- so one
>> could build one, but I'd prefer an out of the box solution that looks nice
>> in a rack.
>>
>> Jayson
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Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?

2009-09-07 Thread RickG
Dont know the price but this is sweet -->
http://www.ntp-time-server.com/time-servers/server-gps-clock.html

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Jayson Baker wrote:
> Anyone know of a place to buy a rackmount NTP server that obtains timing
> from GPS?
>
> I spent a few minutes on Google and found a couple that were $1000+.
>
> The PCI cards can be had for about $50, antenna's are almost free -- so one
> could build one, but I'd prefer an out of the box solution that looks nice
> in a rack.
>
> Jayson
>
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[WISPA] GPS NTP Server?

2009-09-07 Thread Jayson Baker
Anyone know of a place to buy a rackmount NTP server that obtains timing
from GPS?

I spent a few minutes on Google and found a couple that were $1000+.

The PCI cards can be had for about $50, antenna's are almost free -- so one
could build one, but I'd prefer an out of the box solution that looks nice
in a rack.

Jayson



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