Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?
I discovered that somewhere along the lines, MT added support for USB-based GPS. So I bought a $15 outdoor USB GPS off eBay. We'll see next week if it works. MT docs said as long as it supports NMEA output (which this one did) it'd work. We don't need accuracy down to the nanosecond, but within a second or two. We provide services to the local E911 PSAP, and need to make certain our end matches theirs for VoIP, log files, etc. For this app, we don't want to rely on Internet-based NTP servers, as some of our application is not tied to the public Internet. Jayson On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:21 PM, ralph wrote: > The last time I looked into this, the GPS had to be one that output a 1 pps > signal, and most didn't. > Of course times could have changed (pun intended) and this isn't a > requirement any longer. > The GPS-35 from Garmin may meet your specs, I think, if it's still made. > > And BTW- if you happen to have a Canopy CMM in your network, it also has > the > NTP server derived from GPS built in. > > Ralph > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Jayson Baker > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 5:23 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server? > > Oh yeah, that's right, the MT will do that. > > Ok - any suggestions on an decent GPS receiver that is outdoor/weatherproof > and has a serial connection? I've found a bunch of USB, a couple that are > serial and meant to go in a car (cigarette lighter & mag mount), and even > more that aren't weatherproof. > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: > > > We use the lastmile gear Ctm Poe gps sync device for our motorola canopy > > > > It has a built In Ntp server > > > > Sent from my Motorola Startac... > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2009, at 11:25 AM, "Mike Hammett" > > wrote: > > > > > Mikrotik RouterBoard + serial GPS receiver, though not a boxed > > > solution. > > > > > > > > > - > > > Mike Hammett > > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > From: "Jayson Baker" > > > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:41 PM > > > To: "WISPA General List" > > > Subject: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server? > > > > > >> Anyone know of a place to buy a rackmount NTP server that obtains > > >> timing > > >> from GPS? > > >> > > >> I spent a few minutes on Google and found a couple that were $1000+. > > >> > > >> The PCI cards can be had for about $50, antenna's are almost free > > >> -- so > > >> one > > >> could build one, but I'd prefer an out of the box solution that > > >> looks nice > > >> in a rack. > > >> > > >> Jayson > > >> > > >> > > >> --- > > >> --- > > >> --- > > >> --- > > >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > > >> --- > > >> --- > > >> --- > > >> --- > > >> > > >> > > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > >> > > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > >> > > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > >> > > > > > > > > > --- > > > --- > > > --- > > > --- > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > --- > > > --- > > > --- > > > --- > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wisp
Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?
The last time I looked into this, the GPS had to be one that output a 1 pps signal, and most didn't. Of course times could have changed (pun intended) and this isn't a requirement any longer. The GPS-35 from Garmin may meet your specs, I think, if it's still made. And BTW- if you happen to have a Canopy CMM in your network, it also has the NTP server derived from GPS built in. Ralph -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 5:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server? Oh yeah, that's right, the MT will do that. Ok - any suggestions on an decent GPS receiver that is outdoor/weatherproof and has a serial connection? I've found a bunch of USB, a couple that are serial and meant to go in a car (cigarette lighter & mag mount), and even more that aren't weatherproof. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: > We use the lastmile gear Ctm Poe gps sync device for our motorola canopy > > It has a built In Ntp server > > Sent from my Motorola Startac... > > > On Sep 8, 2009, at 11:25 AM, "Mike Hammett" > wrote: > > > Mikrotik RouterBoard + serial GPS receiver, though not a boxed > > solution. > > > > > > - > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > > -------------- > > From: "Jayson Baker" > > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:41 PM > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Subject: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server? > > > >> Anyone know of a place to buy a rackmount NTP server that obtains > >> timing > >> from GPS? > >> > >> I spent a few minutes on Google and found a couple that were $1000+. > >> > >> The PCI cards can be had for about $50, antenna's are almost free > >> -- so > >> one > >> could build one, but I'd prefer an out of the box solution that > >> looks nice > >> in a rack. > >> > >> Jayson > >> > >> > >> --- > >> --- > >> --- > >> --- > >> > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> --- > >> --- > >> --- > >> --- > >> > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > > > > > > --- > > --- > > --- > > --- > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > --- > > --- > > --- > > --- > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?
Oh yeah, that's right, the MT will do that. Ok - any suggestions on an decent GPS receiver that is outdoor/weatherproof and has a serial connection? I've found a bunch of USB, a couple that are serial and meant to go in a car (cigarette lighter & mag mount), and even more that aren't weatherproof. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: > We use the lastmile gear Ctm Poe gps sync device for our motorola canopy > > It has a built In Ntp server > > Sent from my Motorola Startac... > > > On Sep 8, 2009, at 11:25 AM, "Mike Hammett" > wrote: > > > Mikrotik RouterBoard + serial GPS receiver, though not a boxed > > solution. > > > > > > - > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > > -------------- > > From: "Jayson Baker" > > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:41 PM > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Subject: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server? > > > >> Anyone know of a place to buy a rackmount NTP server that obtains > >> timing > >> from GPS? > >> > >> I spent a few minutes on Google and found a couple that were $1000+. > >> > >> The PCI cards can be had for about $50, antenna's are almost free > >> -- so > >> one > >> could build one, but I'd prefer an out of the box solution that > >> looks nice > >> in a rack. > >> > >> Jayson > >> > >> > >> --- > >> --- > >> --- > >> --- > >> > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> --- > >> --- > >> --- > >> --- > >> > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > > > > > > --- > > --- > > --- > > --- > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > --- > > --- > > --- > > --- > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?
We use the lastmile gear Ctm Poe gps sync device for our motorola canopy It has a built In Ntp server Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Sep 8, 2009, at 11:25 AM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > Mikrotik RouterBoard + serial GPS receiver, though not a boxed > solution. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Jayson Baker" > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:41 PM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server? > >> Anyone know of a place to buy a rackmount NTP server that obtains >> timing >> from GPS? >> >> I spent a few minutes on Google and found a couple that were $1000+. >> >> The PCI cards can be had for about $50, antenna's are almost free >> -- so >> one >> could build one, but I'd prefer an out of the box solution that >> looks nice >> in a rack. >> >> Jayson >> >> >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --- >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --- >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > --- > --- > --- > --- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > --- > --- > --- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?
Mikrotik RouterBoard + serial GPS receiver, though not a boxed solution. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Jayson Baker" Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:41 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server? > Anyone know of a place to buy a rackmount NTP server that obtains timing > from GPS? > > I spent a few minutes on Google and found a couple that were $1000+. > > The PCI cards can be had for about $50, antenna's are almost free -- so > one > could build one, but I'd prefer an out of the box solution that looks nice > in a rack. > > Jayson > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?
We have one running on a FreeBSD server. I'll have to look at how Aaron set it up, but I'm sure there are plenty of software packages out there that can do this. http://time.qnan.org/ is a linux example. Mikrotiks can also act as GPS NTP time servers using the optional NTP server package. http://www.mikrotik.com/testdocs/ros/3.0/system/gps.php - synching with GPS time http://www.mikrotik.com/testdocs/ros/3.0/system/ntp.php - NTP server and client docs. RickG wrote: > Dont know the price but this is sweet --> > http://www.ntp-time-server.com/time-servers/server-gps-clock.html > > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Jayson Baker wrote: > >> Anyone know of a place to buy a rackmount NTP server that obtains timing >> from GPS? >> >> I spent a few minutes on Google and found a couple that were $1000+. >> >> The PCI cards can be had for about $50, antenna's are almost free -- so one >> could build one, but I'd prefer an out of the box solution that looks nice >> in a rack. >> >> Jayson >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?
Dont know the price but this is sweet --> http://www.ntp-time-server.com/time-servers/server-gps-clock.html On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Jayson Baker wrote: > Anyone know of a place to buy a rackmount NTP server that obtains timing > from GPS? > > I spent a few minutes on Google and found a couple that were $1000+. > > The PCI cards can be had for about $50, antenna's are almost free -- so one > could build one, but I'd prefer an out of the box solution that looks nice > in a rack. > > Jayson > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] GPS NTP Server?
Anyone know of a place to buy a rackmount NTP server that obtains timing from GPS? I spent a few minutes on Google and found a couple that were $1000+. The PCI cards can be had for about $50, antenna's are almost free -- so one could build one, but I'd prefer an out of the box solution that looks nice in a rack. Jayson WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/