Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Executive to be Featured at BroadbandWireless World Conference in Las Vegas, Nevada
On Jun 17, 2008, at 7:10 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > I am far too lazy to look it up, but there have been multiple press > releases > on the same subject in the past, which has soured the group to > RapidLink > press releases. > There have never been multiple press releases on the same subject. Nobody wants to hear about the same thing over and over. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Executive to be Featured at BroadbandWireless World Conference in Las Vegas, Nevada
I don't think that at all, however... I am far too lazy to look it up, but there have been multiple press releases on the same subject in the past, which has soured the group to RapidLink press releases. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Executive to be Featured at BroadbandWireless World Conference in Las Vegas, Nevada > It is pretty normal for members of an organization to share PR with > others in the organization. Are you suggesting members should be > charged for sharing PR? > > -Matt > > On Jun 16, 2008, at 2:23 PM, Butch Evans wrote: > >> On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Mike Prachar wrote: >> >>> - Rapid Link's Lead Technologist to sit on WiMAX panel - >> >> Is it just me that get's tired of reading all about Rapid Link on >> this list? I mean, this is not "news I can use"...it's just a >> series of "press releases" done on WISPA's server. Seems to me that >> WISPA oughta get something for this service... >> >> -- >> >> *Butch Evans *Professional Network Consultation * >> *Network Engineering *MikroTik RouterOS* >> *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * >> *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * >> *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Wired or Wireless Networks* >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by One Ring Networks, and is >> believed to be clean. >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Executive to be Featured at BroadbandWireless World Conference in Las Vegas, Nevada
Butch, Matt, and Members, Before this thread gets out of hand, a couple of notes... 1) WISPA does not have an offical policy yet on Press Releases sent to the List, stating its OK or Not Ok. Nor does WISPA have an appropraite mechanism or program to enable a WISP to pay for Sending PRs. Therefore, it can not be held against RapidLink for doing it. 2) Honestly, I have to admit, I can see how sending the PRs to the list could be annoying to some people. Expecially to a consultant that is required to pay for similar exposure. Think about it... What if every member posted all their PRs to this LIST? It could be worse than Spam. If the PR was a rare special case, where it was likely something unique or of extra significant interest to members, I'd say everyone would want to read about it, and welcome it. But some of the PR posts may have been just self-promoting, the primary purpose of PRs. 3) However, I also must say, that I think Matt has tought us all something, by making his PR posts. Everything we do should be considered newsworthy. If we don't think we are importnat to talk about, and we don't think we are newsworthy ourselves, why will our customers and polititions? Everything we do, we should try and get public recognition for. I should have been doing PRs everytime I spoke at a show in the past. Why not also get the credit from the public for the things we do within our industry and of our peers? Members benefit from seeing what others are doing right to promote themselves. 4) And we need to stop letting Intel and Clearwire take all the credit for Wireless Broadband. Think about it... IF you ask the public about Wimax, what names will come up? I applaud RapidLink for taking the initiative to promote their involvement in the industry. More of us need to do the same, to change public perception.. 5) The Promotions committee was originally formed, because we were looking for ways to promote our memebers. Allowing Press Relases may be one way of helping? I will close by saying, I think Butch acted appropriately by bringing up this issue, and challenging whether it is appropriate. My opinion is that I think it is appropriate. But I think the WISPA board does need to make an official ruling on Press Releases, so members and vendors know the limits of what is acceptable, so they can maximize on the benefits they have. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Executive to be Featured at BroadbandWireless World Conference in Las Vegas, Nevada > > On Jun 16, 2008, at 6:50 PM, Butch Evans wrote: > >> Hmmm...I suppose this answers the original question. Rapid is NOT >> paying for the benefit (as a principle member) and you expect that >> your $250 makes up for your using this list as a PR list for Rapid >> (not WISPA). >> > What benefit exactly? You seem to ignore the part where we pay more > than $250 per release to have our release issued by a professional > distribution company. You also seem to ignore that this is a free list > that we would have access whether we are a WISPA member or not. > Further, where was your outrage when other releases were shared with > the list? Its not like Rapid Link is the only WISPA member to have > ever sent a copy of our release to the free list. > >>> complaining about advertising without any mention of WISPA you >>> might want to check your signature. A quick look reveals tangible >>> Google Pagerank benefits. >> >> Ahh. Let's take a quick look at the other portion of this "stab". >> >> 1. I am a VENDOR member and paid for that benefit. And as soon as I >> get the link to pay for the next year, I will be again this year. >> >> 2. Those posts (some of which are not the wispa list) are almost >> entirely composed of information that is in direct answers to >> questions posted on this list. (Other than those posts which came >> as a benefit to my VENDOR MEMBER status, or were separately paid >> prior to my joining as a vendor.) >> >> 3. I spent MANY hours of volunteer time in building the CALEA >> Standard that will benefit not only WISPA and it's membership, but >> ALL WISPs. >> >> 4. I spent over $1000 just recently for both ISPCON and the MUM that >> did not directly benefit me, but was to benefit WISPA and help >> announce the WISPA CALEA Standard. I did not have a booth at either >> show. >> >> 5. My website has a link on EVERY PAGE back to WISPA's homepage, so >> there is MUTUAL BENEFIT. >> >> I am having a hard time
Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Executive to be Featured at BroadbandWireless World Conference in Las Vegas, Nevada
Perhaps it should be shared on the members list? I personally love the _advice_ and _comments_ given by members of the Rapid Link crew. It is informative and comes from experience. I really liked Matt's talk on 3Ghz and "how to cut out the telco" during ISP-con. I think, perhaps Mike might have [EMAIL PROTECTED] on his email list by accident? Looking at stats for the past couple of months it looks like that might be the case: June 396 Total -> 5 PR -> 0 Request -> 0 Reply May 425 Total -> 0 PR -> 2 Request -> 0 Reply April 573 Total -> 2 PR -> 0 Request -> 0 Reply March 389 Total -> 1 PR -> 0 Request -> 0 Reply February 515 Total -> 0 PR -> 0 Request -> 0 Reply January 425 Total -> 0 PR -> 0 Request -> 2 Reply (excellent replies BTW!) Looking at the PR messages, it might also be that Mike is pretty darn busy with all of the work his company is doing. Maybe if I put as much effort into new business as these guys do, I wouldn't have time for this reply. :) :P ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 11:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Executive to be Featured at BroadbandWireless World Conference in Las Vegas, Nevada It is pretty normal for members of an organization to share PR with others in the organization. Are you suggesting members should be charged for sharing PR? -Matt On Jun 16, 2008, at 2:23 PM, Butch Evans wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Mike Prachar wrote: > >> - Rapid Link's Lead Technologist to sit on WiMAX panel - > > Is it just me that get's tired of reading all about Rapid Link on > this list? I mean, this is not "news I can use"...it's just a > series of "press releases" done on WISPA's server. Seems to me that > WISPA oughta get something for this service... > > -- > > *Butch Evans *Professional Network Consultation * > *Network Engineering *MikroTik RouterOS * > *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * > *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * > *Mikrotik Certified Consultant*Wired or Wireless Networks* > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by One Ring Networks, and is > believed to be clean. > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
