Re: [WISPA] Stimulus money creating jobs in MO

2010-08-17 Thread St. Louis Broadband 
Actually they are to create 1,300 construction jobs on this project.  We of
course know the area very well, since we engineered six of their counties
they were awarded.

 

We are working with one of the most reputable local builders in area (they
built most of the schools, hospitals, etc.) and we are both astonished about
the amount of jobs.  From my understanding, the only construction this
company is doing is tower sites, I have been told that they are renting
offices and using existing facilities for NOC.

 

We are building a NOC, offices, warehouse, and of course tower sites and
could not come up with more than 300 jobs.  We did however contract with a
'remote' call center to bring in 750 new jobs with benefits. J

 

~V~

 

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On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 13:57, Jim Patient  wrote:


$24,400,00/70=$348,571.42/job created.   


The broadband stimulus package had "increasing access to broadband" as a
primary goal, and "creating jobs" was at best a second-order effect. If the
primary goal were to create jobs or reduce unemployment, yes, there are many
more cost-effective ways to do so, but that wasn't the point of that little
part of the 2009 stimulus bill.

 

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Re: [WISPA] Stimulus money creating jobs in MO

2010-08-16 Thread RickG 
Thank you!

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Josh Luthman
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Re: [WISPA] Stimulus money creating jobs in MO

2010-08-16 Thread Josh Luthman 
Let's kill this thread now.

On Aug 17, 2010 12:44 AM, "RickG"  wrote:

No more than the original post Jack. The title of my link says "Broadband".
This IS broadband is it not?




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Re: [WISPA] Stimulus money creating jobs in MO

2010-08-16 Thread RickG 
No more than the original post Jack. The title of my link says "Broadband".
This IS broadband is it not?


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> I'll tell you what "free" government money does create - corruption:
> http://www.newnetworks.com/broadbandscandals.htm
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>>  Big River to add 70 jobs with $24M stimulus
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>>  http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2010/08/02/daily47.html
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>> $24,400,00/70=$348,571.42/job created.
>> At this rate it would be over 5 trillion to put the 14.9 million
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Re: [WISPA] Stimulus money creating jobs in MO

2010-08-16 Thread Jack Unger 




You're off topic good buddy.

RickG wrote:
I'll tell you what "free" government money does create
- corruption: http://www.newnetworks.com/broadbandscandals.htm
  
  On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Jim Patient
  
wrote:
  

Big River to add 70 jobs with $24M stimulus


http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2010/08/02/daily47.html

$24,400,00/70=$348,571.42/job created.   
At this rate it would be over 5 trillion to put the 14.9 million
unemployed Americans back to work. 
   
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Re: [WISPA] Stimulus money creating jobs in MO

2010-08-16 Thread RickG 
I'll tell you what "free" government money does create - corruption:
http://www.newnetworks.com/broadbandscandals.htm

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Jim Patient  wrote:

>  Big River to add 70 jobs with $24M stimulus
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>  http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2010/08/02/daily47.html
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> $24,400,00/70=$348,571.42/job created.
> At this rate it would be over 5 trillion to put the 14.9 million unemployed
> Americans back to work.
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Re: [WISPA] Stimulus money creating jobs in MO

2010-08-16 Thread David E. Smith 
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 13:57, Jim Patient  wrote:

>  $24,400,00/70=$348,571.42/job created.
>
The broadband stimulus package had "increasing access to broadband" as a
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[WISPA] Stimulus money creating jobs in MO

2010-08-16 Thread Jim Patient 




 Big River to add 70 jobs with $24M stimulus


http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2010/08/02/daily47.html

$24,400,00/70=$348,571.42/job created.
At this rate it would be over 5 trillion to put the 14.9 million 
unemployed Americans back to work.


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