Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - Whats the next step
OK so in my area there is a three channel space of 26,27 and, 28 available. I guess my goal is to camp out on 27, knowing this how to I stake the claim and start working toward deployment? I know it's oversimplified but that's where I have to start. Forbes On 9/25/2010 8:37 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: According to that page, only 2, 5, and 6 are available for me. Assuming their data is correct, TVWS are almost not even worth my time. 6 channels are reserved for wireless mics. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/25/2010 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 8 Channels around here for me... http://www.spectrumbridge.com/products-services/whitespaces/showmywhitespace/single-location-search.aspx Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net wrote: That was where my question was going. 12mhz could let you use a 10mhz channel. Yes we are used to half duplex because that is what most people make. I would love full duplex and with all the mimo gear it just my be possible to do it at a end user acceptable rate. Most of the area I am interested in have 1 block of 4 channels. One has 2, and a 3rd has 10! I am very interested in find the exact contours for that one and what kind of bonding might be possible. Even just 40mhz Rockets would make me happy for a while. On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: That's another thing to remember... to have any usable throughput you're going to have to find several channels together. With UBNT gear, 6 MHz only yields 15 megabits. MT's N might double that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/25/2010 4:25 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Ah much better. Now, if a town has say 4 channels open (in a row) like 2 3 4 5, can you use 3 and 4, keeping 2 and 5 as the guard channels? or will you need to pick 3 or 4? On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Blair Davisthe...@wmwisp.net wrote: It is broke. Use http://www.spectrumbridge.com instead. Josh Luthman wrote: I go to it and it seems there are no available channels anywhere I search. Maybe they're working on it? Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Am I the only one its not working for? I get script errors like 'Server Error in '/WSWebGUI' Application.' (and more info snipped). Scripts are turned on in FireFox on Linux and Windows, and IE does not have any changes from default (it is never used). Clicking on channels jumps it to the default view. Clicking 'Show nearby incumbents' always results in a error. Using addresses in the search works, displays the bing map of the location, and all buttons (except show nearby) jump back to the default. Any ideas? On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote: http://whitespaces.msresearch.us/ Kind of cool I think... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - Whats the next step
At 9/27/2010 10:54 AM, Forbes Mercy wrote: OK so in my area there is a three channel space of 26,27 and, 28 available. I guess my goal is to camp out on 27, knowing this how to I stake the claim and start working toward deployment? I know it's oversimplified but that's where I have to start. Unless I'm misreading the rules, White Space for WISPs is under Part 15, unlicensed, and thus gets no protection. Licensed (protected) wireless mics operate under a different rule (e.g., broadcast auxiliary service) which entitles them to protection. So there is no claim-staking by WISPs; we will have to live together the way we do on 5.8 and the other unlicensed bands. Forbes On 9/25/2010 8:37 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: According to that page, only 2, 5, and 6 are available for me. Assuming their data is correct, TVWS are almost not even worth my time. 6 channels are reserved for wireless mics. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/25/2010 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 8 Channels around here for me... http://www.spectrumbridge.com/products-services/whitespaces/showmywhitespace/single-location-search.aspx Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net wrote: That was where my question was going. 12mhz could let you use a 10mhz channel. Yes we are used to half duplex because that is what most people make. I would love full duplex and with all the mimo gear it just my be possible to do it at a end user acceptable rate. Most of the area I am interested in have 1 block of 4 channels. One has 2, and a 3rd has 10! I am very interested in find the exact contours for that one and what kind of bonding might be possible. Even just 40mhz Rockets would make me happy for a while. On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: That's another thing to remember... to have any usable throughput you're going to have to find several channels together. With UBNT gear, 6 MHz only yields 15 megabits. MT's N might double that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/25/2010 4:25 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Ah much better. Now, if a town has say 4 channels open (in a row) like 2 3 4 5, can you use 3 and 4, keeping 2 and 5 as the guard channels? or will you need to pick 3 or 4? On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Blair Davisthe...@wmwisp.net wrote: It is broke. Use http://www.spectrumbridge.com instead. Josh Luthman wrote: I go to it and it seems there are no available channels anywhere I search. Maybe they're working on it? Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Am I the only one its not working for? I get script errors like 'Server Error in '/WSWebGUI' Application.' (and more info snipped). Scripts are turned on in FireFox on Linux and Windows, and IE does not have any changes from default (it is never used). Clicking on channels jumps it to the default view. Clicking 'Show nearby incumbents' always results in a error. Using addresses in the search works, displays the bing map of the location, and all buttons (except show nearby) jump back to the default. Any ideas? On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote: http://whitespaces.msresearch.us/ Kind of cool I think... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - Whats the next step
There is no staking your claim. I pushed for that as part of a spectrum homesteading initiative which WISPA will not support...sadly. We probably had a good shot at it through all the lobbying efforts we did but the FCC Committee had people against the idea that building broadband service should entitle you to an exclusive license for your channel space in your coverage area. Opportunity lost... Scriv On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: OK so in my area there is a three channel space of 26,27 and, 28 available. I guess my goal is to camp out on 27, knowing this how to I stake the claim and start working toward deployment? I know it's oversimplified but that's where I have to start. Forbes On 9/25/2010 8:37 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: According to that page, only 2, 5, and 6 are available for me. Assuming their data is correct, TVWS are almost not even worth my time. 6 channels are reserved for wireless mics. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/25/2010 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 8 Channels around here for me... http://www.spectrumbridge.com/products-services/whitespaces/showmywhitespace/single-location-search.aspx Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net wrote: That was where my question was going. 12mhz could let you use a 10mhz channel. Yes we are used to half duplex because that is what most people make. I would love full duplex and with all the mimo gear it just my be possible to do it at a end user acceptable rate. Most of the area I am interested in have 1 block of 4 channels. One has 2, and a 3rd has 10! I am very interested in find the exact contours for that one and what kind of bonding might be possible. Even just 40mhz Rockets would make me happy for a while. On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: That's another thing to remember... to have any usable throughput you're going to have to find several channels together. With UBNT gear, 6 MHz only yields 15 megabits. MT's N might double that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/25/2010 4:25 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Ah much better. Now, if a town has say 4 channels open (in a row) like 2 3 4 5, can you use 3 and 4, keeping 2 and 5 as the guard channels? or will you need to pick 3 or 4? On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Blair Davisthe...@wmwisp.net wrote: It is broke. Use http://www.spectrumbridge.com instead. Josh Luthman wrote: I go to it and it seems there are no available channels anywhere I search. Maybe they're working on it? Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Am I the only one its not working for? I get script errors like 'Server Error in '/WSWebGUI' Application.' (and more info snipped). Scripts are turned on in FireFox on Linux and Windows, and IE does not have any changes from default (it is never used). Clicking on channels jumps it to the default view. Clicking 'Show nearby incumbents' always results in a error. Using addresses in the search works, displays the bing map of the location, and all buttons (except show nearby) jump back to the default. Any ideas? On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote: http://whitespaces.msresearch.us/ Kind of cool I think... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - Whats the next step
On 09/27/2010 08:40 AM, John Scrivner wrote: There is no staking your claim. I pushed for that as part of a spectrum homesteading initiative which WISPA will not support...sadly. Well isn't this what whitespaces is supposed to prevent? Large amounts of exclusive spectrum already exists and is owned by monopolies. Now I think that licensed lite would be good. The FCC licensing system can facilitate coordination among providers. Maybe we can get that in whitespace ro 3.0? :) We probably had a good shot at it through all the lobbying efforts we did but the FCC Committee had people against the idea that building broadband service should entitle you to an exclusive license for your channel space in your coverage area. Hmmm. So if the big money comes in and just buys up a bunch of licenses then what? You have to remember that the rules are a double edged sword. Anything that might help us protect against competition, can also be used by others to lock us out. Not a level playing field. Opportunity lost... Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - Whats the next step
John, I personally support your work on Spectrum Homesteading and we hope to develop it further. Unfortunately, the FCC committee was split and thus, it was the advice of the FCC Chairman that we could not support it at this time until the proposal matures further or the education of the FCC Committee changes the balance of ayes and nays. I definitely don't think it is a dead issue. We need to discuss it more and help it mature, it is definitely worthwhile to pursue. Thanks, Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - Whats the next step There is no staking your claim. I pushed for that as part of a spectrum homesteading initiative which WISPA will not support...sadly. We probably had a good shot at it through all the lobbying efforts we did but the FCC Committee had people against the idea that building broadband service should entitle you to an exclusive license for your channel space in your coverage area. Opportunity lost... Scriv On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: OK so in my area there is a three channel space of 26,27 and, 28 available. I guess my goal is to camp out on 27, knowing this how to I stake the claim and start working toward deployment? I know it's oversimplified but that's where I have to start. Forbes On 9/25/2010 8:37 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: According to that page, only 2, 5, and 6 are available for me. Assuming their data is correct, TVWS are almost not even worth my time. 6 channels are reserved for wireless mics. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/25/2010 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 8 Channels around here for me... http://www.spectrumbridge.com/products- services/whitespaces/showmywhitespace/single-location-search.aspx Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18- 30chat.net wrote: That was where my question was going. 12mhz could let you use a 10mhz channel. Yes we are used to half duplex because that is what most people make. I would love full duplex and with all the mimo gear it just my be possible to do it at a end user acceptable rate. Most of the area I am interested in have 1 block of 4 channels. One has 2, and a 3rd has 10! I am very interested in find the exact contours for that one and what kind of bonding might be possible. Even just 40mhz Rockets would make me happy for a while. On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics- il.net wrote: That's another thing to remember... to have any usable throughput you're going to have to find several channels together. With UBNT gear, 6 MHz only yields 15 megabits. MT's N might double that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/25/2010 4:25 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Ah much better. Now, if a town has say 4 channels open (in a row) like 2 3 4 5, can you use 3 and 4, keeping 2 and 5 as the guard channels? or will you need to pick 3 or 4? On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Blair Davisthe...@wmwisp.net wrote: It is broke. Use http://www.spectrumbridge.com instead. Josh Luthman wrote: I go to it and it seems there are no available channels anywhere I search. Maybe they're working on it? Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18- 30chat.net wrote: Am I the only one its not working for? I get script errors like 'Server Error in '/WSWebGUI' Application.' (and more info snipped). Scripts are turned on in FireFox on Linux and Windows, and IE does not have any changes from default (it is never used). Clicking on channels jumps it to the default view. Clicking 'Show nearby incumbents' always results in a error. Using addresses in the search works, displays the bing map of the location, and all buttons (except show nearby) jump back to the default. Any ideas? On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote: http://whitespaces.msresearch.us/ Kind of cool I think... --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - Whats the next step
What do you envision as a fair homesteading rule(s)? How do those rules deal with squatters, or people who do 'just enough' to keep others out? I am not completely against 'homesteading' but i am against 'squatting' and 'marginal acceptableness'. Do you have a document or such of your ideas on this? On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote: John, I personally support your work on Spectrum Homesteading and we hope to develop it further. Unfortunately, the FCC committee was split and thus, it was the advice of the FCC Chairman that we could not support it at this time until the proposal matures further or the education of the FCC Committee changes the balance of ayes and nays. I definitely don't think it is a dead issue. We need to discuss it more and help it mature, it is definitely worthwhile to pursue. Thanks, Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - Whats the next step There is no staking your claim. I pushed for that as part of a spectrum homesteading initiative which WISPA will not support...sadly. We probably had a good shot at it through all the lobbying efforts we did but the FCC Committee had people against the idea that building broadband service should entitle you to an exclusive license for your channel space in your coverage area. Opportunity lost... Scriv On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: OK so in my area there is a three channel space of 26,27 and, 28 available. I guess my goal is to camp out on 27, knowing this how to I stake the claim and start working toward deployment? I know it's oversimplified but that's where I have to start. Forbes On 9/25/2010 8:37 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: According to that page, only 2, 5, and 6 are available for me. Assuming their data is correct, TVWS are almost not even worth my time. 6 channels are reserved for wireless mics. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/25/2010 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 8 Channels around here for me... http://www.spectrumbridge.com/products- services/whitespaces/showmywhitespace/single-location-search.aspx Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18- 30chat.net wrote: That was where my question was going. 12mhz could let you use a 10mhz channel. Yes we are used to half duplex because that is what most people make. I would love full duplex and with all the mimo gear it just my be possible to do it at a end user acceptable rate. Most of the area I am interested in have 1 block of 4 channels. One has 2, and a 3rd has 10! I am very interested in find the exact contours for that one and what kind of bonding might be possible. Even just 40mhz Rockets would make me happy for a while. On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics- il.net wrote: That's another thing to remember... to have any usable throughput you're going to have to find several channels together. With UBNT gear, 6 MHz only yields 15 megabits. MT's N might double that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/25/2010 4:25 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Ah much better. Now, if a town has say 4 channels open (in a row) like 2 3 4 5, can you use 3 and 4, keeping 2 and 5 as the guard channels? or will you need to pick 3 or 4? On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Blair Davisthe...@wmwisp.net wrote: It is broke. Use http://www.spectrumbridge.com instead. Josh Luthman wrote: I go to it and it seems there are no available channels anywhere I search. Maybe they're working on it? Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18- 30chat.net wrote: Am I the only one its not working for? I get script errors like 'Server Error in '/WSWebGUI' Application.' (and more info snipped). Scripts are turned on in FireFox on Linux and Windows, and IE does not have any changes from default (it is never used). Clicking on channels jumps it to the default view. Clicking 'Show nearby incumbents' always results in a error. Using addresses in the search works, displays the bing map of the location, and all buttons (except show nearby) jump back to the default. Any ideas? On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote: http://whitespaces.msresearch.us/ Kind of cool I think
Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - Whats the next step
Jeromie, A quick check of WISPA's billing survey did not turn up your name as a WISPA Member. If that is wrong and you are a Member then I warmly invite you to join the FCC Committee so you can provide your input and ideas regarding spectrum homesteading. If you are not a WISPA Member then I'm sorry but it would be improper to divulge FCC Committee Member discussions or documents to you. Feel free to give me a call or drop me an email offlist to discuss your options further. Best Regards, Jack Unger Chair - WISPA FCC Committee On 9/27/2010 9:20 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: What do you envision as a fair homesteading rule(s)? How do those rules deal with squatters, or people who do 'just enough' to keep others out? I am not completely against 'homesteading' but i am against 'squatting' and 'marginal acceptableness'. Do you have a document or such of your ideas on this? On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Rick Harnishrharn...@wispa.org wrote: John, I personally support your work on Spectrum Homesteading and we hope to develop it further. Unfortunately, the FCC committee was split and thus, it was the advice of the FCC Chairman that we could not support it at this time until the proposal matures further or the education of the FCC Committee changes the balance of ayes and nays. I definitely don't think it is a dead issue. We need to discuss it more and help it mature, it is definitely worthwhile to pursue. Thanks, Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV whitespaces - Whats the next step There is no staking your claim. I pushed for that as part of a spectrum homesteading initiative which WISPA will not support...sadly. We probably had a good shot at it through all the lobbying efforts we did but the FCC Committee had people against the idea that building broadband service should entitle you to an exclusive license for your channel space in your coverage area. Opportunity lost... Scriv On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: OK so in my area there is a three channel space of 26,27 and, 28 available. I guess my goal is to camp out on 27, knowing this how to I stake the claim and start working toward deployment? I know it's oversimplified but that's where I have to start. Forbes On 9/25/2010 8:37 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: According to that page, only 2, 5, and 6 are available for me. Assuming their data is correct, TVWS are almost not even worth my time. 6 channels are reserved for wireless mics. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/25/2010 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 8 Channels around here for me... http://www.spectrumbridge.com/products- services/whitespaces/showmywhitespace/single-location-search.aspx Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18- 30chat.net wrote: That was where my question was going. 12mhz could let you use a 10mhz channel. Yes we are used to half duplex because that is what most people make. I would love full duplex and with all the mimo gear it just my be possible to do it at a end user acceptable rate. Most of the area I am interested in have 1 block of 4 channels. One has 2, and a 3rd has 10! I am very interested in find the exact contours for that one and what kind of bonding might be possible. Even just 40mhz Rockets would make me happy for a while. On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics- il.net wrote: That's another thing to remember... to have any usable throughput you're going to have to find several channels together. With UBNT gear, 6 MHz only yields 15 megabits. MT's N might double that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/25/2010 4:25 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Ah much better. Now, if a town has say 4 channels open (in a row) like 2 3 4 5, can you use 3 and 4, keeping 2 and 5 as the guard channels? or will you need to pick 3 or 4? On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Blair Davisthe...@wmwisp.net wrote: It is broke. Use http://www.spectrumbridge.com instead. Josh Luthman wrote: I go to it and it seems there are no available channels anywhere I search. Maybe they're working on it? Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18- 30chat.net wrote: Am I the only one its not working for? I get script errors like 'Server Error in '/WSWebGUI' Application.' (and more info snipped). Scripts are turned on in FireFox on Linux and Windows, and IE
