Re: [WISPA] UL 1Gbps Link
Proxim officially changed their name to Terabeam. Terabeam HX still makes the GB radios for Terabeam/Proxim. They are alive and well. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UL 1Gbps Link I think they are proxim now ... Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UL 1Gbps Link Is terrabeam still in business? - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:14 AM Subject: [WISPA] UL 1Gbps Link List I have to propose a half mile 100 Mbps upgradable to 1 Gbps Link, I was thinking on 60 or 70/80 Ghz gear, customer budget is below $20k, What are the options? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1346 - Release Date: 3/27/2008 10:03 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UL 1Gbps Link
Sure Bridgewave is best of class, but it has a pricelevel to match, almost double that of Proxim. Terror Beam :-) It very well can be, when someone tries to isntall it who does not yet have enough experience with that specific product. There was a learning curve, but we have gotten it down to a science, and I assure these radios can perform. Terabeam is an excellent product. However there are a number of tradeoffs in their solution, that the users needs to be aware of, and plan for a head of time, if they want a smooth installation. 1) It uses Fiber not CAT6, so installer needs to know how to install troubleshoot fiber. 2) It is like a modem, in the sense that the data flows accross the radio, but the radio electronics don't touch it, so things like bit error rate or port stats are not possible. So the radio won't diagnose a link for you. This means that if a problem occurs, while live in service, its harder to know what component is the culprit. The secret is to install a device on the LAN side, that creates a clear Demarc, that can be used to test and monitor for packet loss. It also means that someone can't conclusively diagnose the radio's operation effectively with a P3 filed laptop w/ 100mb Nic. 3) The Terabeam is also unforgiving. Everything has got to be done 100% by the book. The installer should not be over confident, they need to seek advise in advance on their first install, and is not a radio that harry home owner can just install successfully. 4) To troubleshoot it, it often means taking it offline. Which is perfectly fine for an enterprise/corporate solution. However, for an ISP, it would be imparative to have a backup link to use, during times maintenance were necessary. That plan needs to be planned out before installation. 5) Proxim tech support can be awesome, but you need to document your install step by step by pre-defined protocol, so Proxim has the info they need to help you, otherwise you won't get the help you want. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UL 1Gbps Link Sorry..That should have been Terror Beam :-) Bob Moldashel [EMAIL PROTECTED] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1346 - Release Date: 3/27/2008 10:03 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UL 1Gbps Link
If 300mbps will do, and/or you need to go over .5 miles, I fully agree, the Trango Giga rocks. It has worked amazingly well for us. Never lost a beat. It was like the easiest radio that we ever installed. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: John Valenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UL 1Gbps Link It won't get you to 1Gbps, but Trango has their Giga links on sale for about $10k. That is 100Mbps full duplex, then another $1500 gets you a software upgrade key to 300Mbps full duplex. That would be a licensed link at 18GHz. (let us know what you end up with) On April 30, at 10:14 AM April 30, Gino Villarini wrote: I have to propose a half mile 100 Mbps upgradable to 1 Gbps Link, I was thinking on 60 or 70/80 Ghz gear, customer budget is below $20k, What are the options? Gino A. Villarini WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1346 - Release Date: 3/27/2008 10:03 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] UL 1Gbps Link
List I have to propose a half mile 100 Mbps upgradable to 1 Gbps Link, I was thinking on 60 or 70/80 Ghz gear, customer budget is below $20k, What are the options? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UL 1Gbps Link
Is terrabeam still in business? - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:14 AM Subject: [WISPA] UL 1Gbps Link List I have to propose a half mile 100 Mbps upgradable to 1 Gbps Link, I was thinking on 60 or 70/80 Ghz gear, customer budget is below $20k, What are the options? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UL 1Gbps Link
This is well out of your budget for this project, but we recently put up a BridgeWave 80GHz with 2' antennas. Nice gear aside from the rinky-dink ODU enclosure. Pretty amazing to see a product at that price level with a plastic single edge housing seal with one center thumb screw holding the lid on. Good thing we bought a spare for the shelf because I don't see how water won't get in eventually. The gear has performed as expected. Full Duplex GigE and auto-rates down to 100MB FDX if necessary. It has withstood some pretty brutal storms the past several months and has only completely dropped traffic for about 10-15 seconds during the worst of it. The link is 2.35 miles, so we're very pleased with the overall uptime. I'm not sure you can find a GigE link for under $20K. Have you tried Steven Patrick with http://www.cablefreesolutions.com ? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 9:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] UL 1Gbps Link List I have to propose a half mile 100 Mbps upgradable to 1 Gbps Link, I was thinking on 60 or 70/80 Ghz gear, customer budget is below $20k, What are the options? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UL 1Gbps Link
I think they are proxim now ... Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UL 1Gbps Link Is terrabeam still in business? - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:14 AM Subject: [WISPA] UL 1Gbps Link List I have to propose a half mile 100 Mbps upgradable to 1 Gbps Link, I was thinking on 60 or 70/80 Ghz gear, customer budget is below $20k, What are the options? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UL 1Gbps Link
Done a good quantity of BridgeWave and have had no issues with water incursion. Did a dual 80 Ghz. (one of the first deployments :-P ) last year. 2 links running side by side with less than 100 ft separation (factory wanted 400+ feet but the cost to make the building wider prohibited that. That link was over 2 miles also. The 60 Ghz. product lists for under $20K. Proxim's Gigabeam (which I think was Terror Wave g) is less than that. Bridgewave has a licensed 80 Ghz. system while Proxim has a licensed 70 Ghz. Bob On Apr 30, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Brad Belton wrote: This is well out of your budget for this project, but we recently put up a BridgeWave 80GHz with 2' antennas. Nice gear aside from the rinky- dink ODU enclosure. Pretty amazing to see a product at that price level with a plastic single edge housing seal with one center thumb screw holding the lid on. Good thing we bought a spare for the shelf because I don't see how water won't get in eventually. The gear has performed as expected. Full Duplex GigE and auto- rates down to 100MB FDX if necessary. It has withstood some pretty brutal storms the past several months and has only completely dropped traffic for about 10-15 seconds during the worst of it. The link is 2.35 miles, so we're very pleased with the overall uptime. I'm not sure you can find a GigE link for under $20K. Have you tried Steven Patrick with http://www.cablefreesolutions.com ? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 9:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] UL 1Gbps Link List I have to propose a half mile 100 Mbps upgradable to 1 Gbps Link, I was thinking on 60 or 70/80 Ghz gear, customer budget is below $20k, What are the options? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Bob Moldashel [EMAIL PROTECTED] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UL 1Gbps Link
Sorry..That should have been Terror Beam :-) Bob Moldashel [EMAIL PROTECTED] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UL 1Gbps Link
It won't get you to 1Gbps, but Trango has their Giga links on sale for about $10k. That is 100Mbps full duplex, then another $1500 gets you a software upgrade key to 300Mbps full duplex. That would be a licensed link at 18GHz. (let us know what you end up with) On April 30, at 10:14 AM April 30, Gino Villarini wrote: I have to propose a half mile 100 Mbps upgradable to 1 Gbps Link, I was thinking on 60 or 70/80 Ghz gear, customer budget is below $20k, What are the options? Gino A. Villarini WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
