Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?
Yeah, but the using Airmax to you can get over multipath issues. Even with one chain active the links seem to perform much smoother. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed? Don't you lose the benefits of MIMO using the Bullet M and/or NS-L (one antenna)? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed? I have one airmax tower deployment, so far so good, I'm not using the dual chain sectors yet though. I plan on migrating from my Tranzeo-120-Horizontals/bulletM to Ubiquity 120/Mimo/RocketM2 this weekend though and I'll know more. We have deployed a mixture of BulletM's and Nano2M's in the field on this tower with good success, so far no AP crashes or strange failures. Could be the area but we have some really nice long shots off this tower as well with nice signal, dual chain is supposed to help by about 3db as well so I look forward to that. Hoping the Ubiquity sectors work nearly as well as the Tranzeo 16/120/H's. Regards Michael Baird Can I get some feedback on those using AirMax procucts? We've use the NS2's in situations where we there are not many clients and the CPE's can all hear each which seems seems to work well. The form factor, design, price, and performance combination of the M series hard to ignore and if it works as well as the NS2's have I'm game for trying it on a small scale where I need a lot of bandwidth and resistence to interference. I'm willing to let my bad Bullet experience go as a fluke. [cid:image001.gif@01CABB7D.9288B7A0] Broadband for Business Public and Private WiFi Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 x2 Websitehttp://www.aircloud.com/ Bloghttp://weblog.aircloud.com/ Twitterhttp://www.twitter.com/aircloudbband LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/pub/jerry-richardson/6/372/354 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?
We just launched out Rocket service for our customer base, swapping out customers is cake for us as most are nano or bullets anyhow, change out the radio and off we went. We have one customer that is especially impressive. We are using a bulletm2 and a 19db pac wireless grid. Airmax enabled and he is exactly 10 miles out according to GPS. Speedtest from our website shows 58Mbps down and 37Mbps up. Most our customers are averaging (unrestricted that is) 30 to 40 Mbps outside of 6 miles. I love this gear.. Ryan On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: Can I get some feedback on those using AirMax procucts? We've use the NS2's in situations where we there are not many clients and the CPE's can all hear each which seems seems to work well. The form factor, design, price, and performance combination of the M series hard to ignore and if it works as well as the NS2's have I'm game for trying it on a small scale where I need a lot of bandwidth and resistence to interference. I'm willing to let my bad Bullet experience go as a fluke. [cid:image001.gif@01CABB7D.9288B7A0] Broadband for Business Public and Private WiFi Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 x2 Websitehttp://www.aircloud.com/ Bloghttp://weblog.aircloud.com/ Twitterhttp://www.twitter.com/aircloudbband LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jerry-richardson/6/372/354 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?
Can I get some feedback on those using AirMax procucts? We've use the NS2's in situations where we there are not many clients and the CPE's can all hear each which seems seems to work well. The form factor, design, price, and performance combination of the M series hard to ignore and if it works as well as the NS2's have I'm game for trying it on a small scale where I need a lot of bandwidth and resistence to interference. I'm willing to let my bad Bullet experience go as a fluke. [cid:image001.gif@01CABB7D.9288B7A0] Broadband for Business Public and Private WiFi Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 x2 Websitehttp://www.aircloud.com/ Bloghttp://weblog.aircloud.com/ Twitterhttp://www.twitter.com/aircloudbband LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/pub/jerry-richardson/6/372/354 inline: image001.gif WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?
I have one airmax tower deployment, so far so good, I'm not using the dual chain sectors yet though. I plan on migrating from my Tranzeo-120-Horizontals/bulletM to Ubiquity 120/Mimo/RocketM2 this weekend though and I'll know more. We have deployed a mixture of BulletM's and Nano2M's in the field on this tower with good success, so far no AP crashes or strange failures. Could be the area but we have some really nice long shots off this tower as well with nice signal, dual chain is supposed to help by about 3db as well so I look forward to that. Hoping the Ubiquity sectors work nearly as well as the Tranzeo 16/120/H's. Regards Michael Baird Can I get some feedback on those using AirMax procucts? We've use the NS2's in situations where we there are not many clients and the CPE's can all hear each which seems seems to work well. The form factor, design, price, and performance combination of the M series hard to ignore and if it works as well as the NS2's have I'm game for trying it on a small scale where I need a lot of bandwidth and resistence to interference. I'm willing to let my bad Bullet experience go as a fluke. [cid:image001.gif@01CABB7D.9288B7A0] Broadband for Business Public and Private WiFi Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 x2 Websitehttp://www.aircloud.com/ Bloghttp://weblog.aircloud.com/ Twitterhttp://www.twitter.com/aircloudbband LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/pub/jerry-richardson/6/372/354 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?
Don't you lose the benefits of MIMO using the Bullet M and/or NS-L (one antenna)? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed? I have one airmax tower deployment, so far so good, I'm not using the dual chain sectors yet though. I plan on migrating from my Tranzeo-120-Horizontals/bulletM to Ubiquity 120/Mimo/RocketM2 this weekend though and I'll know more. We have deployed a mixture of BulletM's and Nano2M's in the field on this tower with good success, so far no AP crashes or strange failures. Could be the area but we have some really nice long shots off this tower as well with nice signal, dual chain is supposed to help by about 3db as well so I look forward to that. Hoping the Ubiquity sectors work nearly as well as the Tranzeo 16/120/H's. Regards Michael Baird Can I get some feedback on those using AirMax procucts? We've use the NS2's in situations where we there are not many clients and the CPE's can all hear each which seems seems to work well. The form factor, design, price, and performance combination of the M series hard to ignore and if it works as well as the NS2's have I'm game for trying it on a small scale where I need a lot of bandwidth and resistence to interference. I'm willing to let my bad Bullet experience go as a fluke. [cid:image001.gif@01CABB7D.9288B7A0] Broadband for Business Public and Private WiFi Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 x2 Websitehttp://www.aircloud.com/ Bloghttp://weblog.aircloud.com/ Twitterhttp://www.twitter.com/aircloudbband LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/pub/jerry-richardson/6/372/354 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?
MIMO I think assumes two chains, two antennas. Still, 802.11n in one 20mhz single channel,chain (should be) better then 802.11a or g in one 20 mhz channel. Is that not right? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Don't you lose the benefits of MIMO using the Bullet M and/or NS-L (one antenna)? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed? I have one airmax tower deployment, so far so good, I'm not using the dual chain sectors yet though. I plan on migrating from my Tranzeo-120-Horizontals/bulletM to Ubiquity 120/Mimo/RocketM2 this weekend though and I'll know more. We have deployed a mixture of BulletM's and Nano2M's in the field on this tower with good success, so far no AP crashes or strange failures. Could be the area but we have some really nice long shots off this tower as well with nice signal, dual chain is supposed to help by about 3db as well so I look forward to that. Hoping the Ubiquity sectors work nearly as well as the Tranzeo 16/120/H's. Regards Michael Baird Can I get some feedback on those using AirMax procucts? We've use the NS2's in situations where we there are not many clients and the CPE's can all hear each which seems seems to work well. The form factor, design, price, and performance combination of the M series hard to ignore and if it works as well as the NS2's have I'm game for trying it on a small scale where I need a lot of bandwidth and resistence to interference. I'm willing to let my bad Bullet experience go as a fluke. [cid:image001.gif@01CABB7D.9288B7A0] Broadband for Business Public and Private WiFi Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 x2 Websitehttp://www.aircloud.com/ Bloghttp://weblog.aircloud.com/ Twitterhttp://www.twitter.com/aircloudbband LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/pub/jerry-richardson/6/372/354 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?
Indeed - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 11:56 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed? Don't you lose the benefits of MIMO using the Bullet M and/or NS-L (one antenna)? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed? I have one airmax tower deployment, so far so good, I'm not using the dual chain sectors yet though. I plan on migrating from my Tranzeo-120-Horizontals/bulletM to Ubiquity 120/Mimo/RocketM2 this weekend though and I'll know more. We have deployed a mixture of BulletM's and Nano2M's in the field on this tower with good success, so far no AP crashes or strange failures. Could be the area but we have some really nice long shots off this tower as well with nice signal, dual chain is supposed to help by about 3db as well so I look forward to that. Hoping the Ubiquity sectors work nearly as well as the Tranzeo 16/120/H's. Regards Michael Baird Can I get some feedback on those using AirMax procucts? We've use the NS2's in situations where we there are not many clients and the CPE's can all hear each which seems seems to work well. The form factor, design, price, and performance combination of the M series hard to ignore and if it works as well as the NS2's have I'm game for trying it on a small scale where I need a lot of bandwidth and resistence to interference. I'm willing to let my bad Bullet experience go as a fluke. [cid:image001.gif@01CABB7D.9288B7A0] Broadband for Business Public and Private WiFi Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 x2 Websitehttp://www.aircloud.com/ Bloghttp://weblog.aircloud.com/ Twitterhttp://www.twitter.com/aircloudbband LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/pub/jerry-richardson/6/372/354 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?
Jerry, Yes, although we aren't using NS2-loco's on the airmax deployment, only BulletM's w/panel or grid and Nanostation 2 M's, per availability. That's why I said I'm looking forward to having the dual chains with the MIMO sectors into the future (they weren't available when we built this tower but we wanted to make sure our CPE's were airmax ready). Regards Michael Baird Don't you lose the benefits of MIMO using the Bullet M and/or NS-L (one antenna)? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed? I have one airmax tower deployment, so far so good, I'm not using the dual chain sectors yet though. I plan on migrating from my Tranzeo-120-Horizontals/bulletM to Ubiquity 120/Mimo/RocketM2 this weekend though and I'll know more. We have deployed a mixture of BulletM's and Nano2M's in the field on this tower with good success, so far no AP crashes or strange failures. Could be the area but we have some really nice long shots off this tower as well with nice signal, dual chain is supposed to help by about 3db as well so I look forward to that. Hoping the Ubiquity sectors work nearly as well as the Tranzeo 16/120/H's. Regards Michael Baird Can I get some feedback on those using AirMax procucts? We've use the NS2's in situations where we there are not many clients and the CPE's can all hear each which seems seems to work well. The form factor, design, price, and performance combination of the M series hard to ignore and if it works as well as the NS2's have I'm game for trying it on a small scale where I need a lot of bandwidth and resistence to interference. I'm willing to let my bad Bullet experience go as a fluke. [cid:image001.gif@01CABB7D.9288B7A0] Broadband for Business Public and Private WiFi Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 x2 Websitehttp://www.aircloud.com/ Bloghttp://weblog.aircloud.com/ Twitterhttp://www.twitter.com/aircloudbband LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/pub/jerry-richardson/6/372/354 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?
I just put in (24 hours in use) a P2P backhaul from my provider. Using 2 solid dual pol dishes and a 20 mhz channel over 11 miles, I can't swamp the link with a 50 mbit transfer. It is sitting on a channel that my star-os backhaul would not use effectively due to interference, and where my turbo link would max out at 2700KB one way, this will run 10m one way and 55 the other, and still have 8 to 18 ms 1500 byte pings across it. at 11 miles, using 30 db dishes, I have mid 50's RSSI, and as far as I can tell, very stable bandwidth.It tends to run at either full speed, or one step back. I've seen it at both. So far, in P2P, I'm reasonably impressed. Mark -- From: Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:43 AM To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
