Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas
This stuff really does work: http://www.wx2100.com/ Brad H On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: I agree with Tom - from this point on I have been doing installs like that. Grids are not my thing but ARC and backfires are awesome! On 12/11/08, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: We quit using grids completely after they practically decomposed into a corroded blob at an installation at the Port of Maui a couple years ago. Now we use14db backfires wherever possible, or if we need more gain, panels like the ARC or pacwireless solid dishes. With their intrinsic radome, these seem to hold up very well for us. Just double-check the polarity markings which can be wrong. Tom Sharples www.qorvus.com - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas Not really anything that can be done. At least when we get freezing rain it melts within the next day. I've had a backhaul 5ghz grid go down from very minimal ice before. That was a bad night Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas I am curious to know if anyone does anything to prepare for lots of ice on grid antennas. I know that it is best to use a dish and cover where weather is prone to these kinds of things but some installs do not have the luxury. I have heard that spraying Pam (or some kind of oil, regardless of brand) should help for at least a few months - is this so? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Weather proofing antennas
I am curious to know if anyone does anything to prepare for lots of ice on grid antennas. I know that it is best to use a dish and cover where weather is prone to these kinds of things but some installs do not have the luxury. I have heard that spraying Pam (or some kind of oil, regardless of brand) should help for at least a few months - is this so? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas
Thanks for the suggestion! I will order myself some sex wax. I will also order some for the antennas. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:07 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Use Sex Wax or something similar that is used for ski's. Pam doesn't cut it Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:48:00 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas I am curious to know if anyone does anything to prepare for lots of ice on grid antennas. I know that it is best to use a dish and cover where weather is prone to these kinds of things but some installs do not have the luxury. I have heard that spraying Pam (or some kind of oil, regardless of brand) should help for at least a few months - is this so? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas
Not really anything that can be done. At least when we get freezing rain it melts within the next day. I've had a backhaul 5ghz grid go down from very minimal ice before. That was a bad night Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas I am curious to know if anyone does anything to prepare for lots of ice on grid antennas. I know that it is best to use a dish and cover where weather is prone to these kinds of things but some installs do not have the luxury. I have heard that spraying Pam (or some kind of oil, regardless of brand) should help for at least a few months - is this so? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas
Yes, there is a spray (cheaper but doen n that the sattelite folks use. There is also ot work as well) an iseophobic paint (very expensive and I hope it works better - I will test some soon). -Adam On 12/11/08, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I am curious to know if anyone does anything to prepare for lots of ice on grid antennas. I know that it is best to use a dish and cover where weather is prone to these kinds of things but some installs do not have the luxury. I have heard that spraying Pam (or some kind of oil, regardless of brand) should help for at least a few months - is this so? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Adam Goodman Owner/Network Engineer WiSpring, Inc. A Wireless Broadband Company 610 Main Street Great Barrington, MA 01230 http://wispring.com Office: 413.528.5008 Mobile: 801.971.1856 */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas
Well I will apply some sex wax and see how it plays out in the winter! On 12/11/08, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Not really anything that can be done. At least when we get freezing rain it melts within the next day. I've had a backhaul 5ghz grid go down from very minimal ice before. That was a bad night Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas I am curious to know if anyone does anything to prepare for lots of ice on grid antennas. I know that it is best to use a dish and cover where weather is prone to these kinds of things but some installs do not have the luxury. I have heard that spraying Pam (or some kind of oil, regardless of brand) should help for at least a few months - is this so? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas
On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 20:18 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: Well I will apply some sex wax and see how it plays out in the winter! Well, if it was Bob's suggestion, you know it must be good. Plus, you can imagine what a Yagi may be doing during those long, cold, dark nights all winter long where some sex wax may be useful. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas
Now Butch, you're now yanking on Yagi's Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC cprof...@cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 20:18 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: Well I will apply some sex wax and see how it plays out in the winter! Well, if it was Bob's suggestion, you know it must be good. Plus, you can imagine what a Yagi may be doing during those long, cold, dark nights all winter long where some sex wax may be useful. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas
We quit using grids completely after they practically decomposed into a corroded blob at an installation at the Port of Maui a couple years ago. Now we use14db backfires wherever possible, or if we need more gain, panels like the ARC or pacwireless solid dishes. With their intrinsic radome, these seem to hold up very well for us. Just double-check the polarity markings which can be wrong. Tom Sharples www.qorvus.com - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas Not really anything that can be done. At least when we get freezing rain it melts within the next day. I've had a backhaul 5ghz grid go down from very minimal ice before. That was a bad night Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas I am curious to know if anyone does anything to prepare for lots of ice on grid antennas. I know that it is best to use a dish and cover where weather is prone to these kinds of things but some installs do not have the luxury. I have heard that spraying Pam (or some kind of oil, regardless of brand) should help for at least a few months - is this so? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas
I actually like to use rootennas instead of the back fires. I make my own jumpers out of LMR240. George Tom Sharples wrote: We quit using grids completely after they practically decomposed into a corroded blob at an installation at the Port of Maui a couple years ago. Now we use14db backfires wherever possible, or if we need more gain, panels like the ARC or pacwireless solid dishes. With their intrinsic radome, these seem to hold up very well for us. Just double-check the polarity markings which can be wrong. Tom Sharples www.qorvus.com - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas Not really anything that can be done. At least when we get freezing rain it melts within the next day. I've had a backhaul 5ghz grid go down from very minimal ice before. That was a bad night Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas I am curious to know if anyone does anything to prepare for lots of ice on grid antennas. I know that it is best to use a dish and cover where weather is prone to these kinds of things but some installs do not have the luxury. I have heard that spraying Pam (or some kind of oil, regardless of brand) should help for at least a few months - is this so? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas
I agree with Tom - from this point on I have been doing installs like that. Grids are not my thing but ARC and backfires are awesome! On 12/11/08, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: We quit using grids completely after they practically decomposed into a corroded blob at an installation at the Port of Maui a couple years ago. Now we use14db backfires wherever possible, or if we need more gain, panels like the ARC or pacwireless solid dishes. With their intrinsic radome, these seem to hold up very well for us. Just double-check the polarity markings which can be wrong. Tom Sharples www.qorvus.com - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas Not really anything that can be done. At least when we get freezing rain it melts within the next day. I've had a backhaul 5ghz grid go down from very minimal ice before. That was a bad night Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas I am curious to know if anyone does anything to prepare for lots of ice on grid antennas. I know that it is best to use a dish and cover where weather is prone to these kinds of things but some installs do not have the luxury. I have heard that spraying Pam (or some kind of oil, regardless of brand) should help for at least a few months - is this so? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
