Re: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes

2009-10-29 Thread Mike Hammett
You won't be able to use any traditional US channels over a wireless system. 
They won't license it.

SD is about a meg or two and HD requires 5 - 10.

At times, my house would then require 17 - 34 megs.


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> Jerry Richardson wrote:
>> TV over wireless is a non-starter. Even if you used MPEG4 which is really 
>> for video you still can only get 2-3 channels.
>
> I was recently speaking with a relative of mine who is now getting his
> TV delivered over DSL. He is an engineer, so he asked the tech for a bit
> more information on how it works.
>
> With this system, only the channels that are actively being watched are
> beamed over the DSL line, and when you change a channel, it sends a
> signal to the TV "server" to deliver a different stream.
>
> With his connection, he is limited to watching 8-10 different channels
> at a time, but I could see this working well on a robust wireless
> network with a channel or two.
>
> Josh
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Re: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes

2009-10-29 Thread Josh Cheney
Jerry Richardson wrote:
> TV over wireless is a non-starter. Even if you used MPEG4 which is really for 
> video you still can only get 2-3 channels.

I was recently speaking with a relative of mine who is now getting his 
TV delivered over DSL. He is an engineer, so he asked the tech for a bit 
more information on how it works.

With this system, only the channels that are actively being watched are 
beamed over the DSL line, and when you change a channel, it sends a 
signal to the TV "server" to deliver a different stream.

With his connection, he is limited to watching 8-10 different channels 
at a time, but I could see this working well on a robust wireless 
network with a channel or two.

Josh


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Re: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes

2009-10-29 Thread Mike Hammett
That doesn't surprise me.  The TV companies own Hulu anyway, so it was 
inevitable that'd they'd need money from somewhere eventually.


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> And... Hulu investors are considering HARD on charging for content access 
> as of about a month ago, a google search will surmise.
>
> Scott
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Jerry Richardson 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date:  Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:41:50 -0400
>
>>TV over wireless is a non-starter. Even if you used MPEG4 which is really 
>>for video you still can only get 2-3 channels.
>>
>>A low-cost solution would be to set up something like a HULU server where 
>>the video is compressed enough that the wireless can handle it.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>>Behalf Of Rogelio
>>Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:47 AM
>>To: wireless@wispa.org
>>Subject: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes
>>
>>Do you have any suggestions for budget friendly set top boxes?
>>
>>e.g.
>>
>>TV -> set top box  -> wireless CPE --> wireless stuff outside
>>
>>(mpeg-2 is most likely what they're looking for, not mpeg-4, as it's in
>>South America and they're looking for something very low cost)
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Re: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes

2009-10-29 Thread Scottie Arnett
And... Hulu investors are considering HARD on charging for content access as of 
about a month ago, a google search will surmise.

Scott

-- Original Message --
From: Jerry Richardson 
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Date:  Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:41:50 -0400

>TV over wireless is a non-starter. Even if you used MPEG4 which is really for 
>video you still can only get 2-3 channels.
>
>A low-cost solution would be to set up something like a HULU server where the 
>video is compressed enough that the wireless can handle it.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
>Of Rogelio
>Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:47 AM
>To: wireless@wispa.org
>Subject: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes
>
>Do you have any suggestions for budget friendly set top boxes?
>
>e.g.
>
>TV -> set top box  -> wireless CPE --> wireless stuff outside
>
>(mpeg-2 is most likely what they're looking for, not mpeg-4, as it's in 
>South America and they're looking for something very low cost)
>
>Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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Re: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes

2009-10-26 Thread Ryan Spott
http://stason.org/TULARC/pc/wireless-cable/index.html

or cableaml.com

uses MMDS spectrum (I think?) same freq (2.6Ghz?) clearwire uses.



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On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:07 PM, jason bailey  wrote:
> Does anyone remember the old analog wireless "cable"  systems?They had many 
> channels,using a grid with rg8. The one im referring to was north 
> florida,sure they were elsewhere?
>
> Sent From My I1000
>
> --- On Mon, 10/26/09, John Valenti  wrote:
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> From: John Valenti 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes
> To: scubac...@gmail.com, "WISPA General List" 
> Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:52 PM
>
>
> I built one using Zotac Ion motherboard.
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813500029&cm_re=ion-_-13-500-029-_-Product
>
> Complete price was just over $200.  Running eval of Win7 currently.
> Works pretty well for Hulu & Netflix WatchNow.  (hoping for better
> flash drivers that will do hardware support of GPU, maybe they are out
> now?)
>
> I have XBMC on a USB stick that should work similarly for an free OS.
>
>
> On Oct 26, 2009, at 12:47 PM, Rogelio wrote:
>
>> Do you have any suggestions for budget friendly set top boxes?
>>
>> e.g.
>>
>> TV -> set top box  -> wireless CPE --> wireless stuff outside
>>
>> (mpeg-2 is most likely what they're looking for, not mpeg-4, as it's
>> in
>> South America and they're looking for something very low cost)
>>
>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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Re: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes

2009-10-26 Thread jason bailey
Does anyone remember the old analog wireless "cable"  systems?They had many 
channels,using a grid with rg8. The one im referring to was north florida,sure 
they were elsewhere?

Sent From My I1000

--- On Mon, 10/26/09, John Valenti  wrote:


From: John Valenti 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes
To: scubac...@gmail.com, "WISPA General List" 
Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:52 PM


I built one using Zotac Ion motherboard.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813500029&cm_re=ion-_-13-500-029-_-Product

Complete price was just over $200.  Running eval of Win7 currently.  
Works pretty well for Hulu & Netflix WatchNow.  (hoping for better  
flash drivers that will do hardware support of GPU, maybe they are out  
now?)

I have XBMC on a USB stick that should work similarly for an free OS.


On Oct 26, 2009, at 12:47 PM, Rogelio wrote:

> Do you have any suggestions for budget friendly set top boxes?
>
> e.g.
>
> TV -> set top box  -> wireless CPE --> wireless stuff outside
>
> (mpeg-2 is most likely what they're looking for, not mpeg-4, as it's  
> in
> South America and they're looking for something very low cost)
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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Re: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes

2009-10-26 Thread John Valenti
I built one using Zotac Ion motherboard.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813500029&cm_re=ion-_-13-500-029-_-Product

Complete price was just over $200.  Running eval of Win7 currently.  
Works pretty well for Hulu & Netflix WatchNow.  (hoping for better  
flash drivers that will do hardware support of GPU, maybe they are out  
now?)

I have XBMC on a USB stick that should work similarly for an free OS.


On Oct 26, 2009, at 12:47 PM, Rogelio wrote:

> Do you have any suggestions for budget friendly set top boxes?
>
> e.g.
>
> TV -> set top box  -> wireless CPE --> wireless stuff outside
>
> (mpeg-2 is most likely what they're looking for, not mpeg-4, as it's  
> in
> South America and they're looking for something very low cost)
>
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Re: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes

2009-10-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Hulu.com

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Re: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes

2009-10-26 Thread jason bailey
hawaii,maybe?

Sent From My I1000

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Where can I find out more about Hula server?

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Re: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes

2009-10-26 Thread richard sterne
Where can I find out more about Hula server?

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Re: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes

2009-10-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Is there anything legit that can be put on a TV with content from Hulu?

TVersity, Boxee, etc do not count!

On 10/26/09, Jerry Richardson  wrote:
> TV over wireless is a non-starter. Even if you used MPEG4 which is really
> for video you still can only get 2-3 channels.
>
> A low-cost solution would be to set up something like a HULU server where
> the video is compressed enough that the wireless can handle it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Rogelio
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:47 AM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes
>
> Do you have any suggestions for budget friendly set top boxes?
>
> e.g.
>
> TV -> set top box  -> wireless CPE --> wireless stuff outside
>
> (mpeg-2 is most likely what they're looking for, not mpeg-4, as it's in
> South America and they're looking for something very low cost)
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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Re: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes

2009-10-26 Thread Jerry Richardson
TV over wireless is a non-starter. Even if you used MPEG4 which is really for 
video you still can only get 2-3 channels.

A low-cost solution would be to set up something like a HULU server where the 
video is compressed enough that the wireless can handle it.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Rogelio
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:47 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes

Do you have any suggestions for budget friendly set top boxes?

e.g.

TV -> set top box  -> wireless CPE --> wireless stuff outside

(mpeg-2 is most likely what they're looking for, not mpeg-4, as it's in 
South America and they're looking for something very low cost)

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!



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[WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes

2009-10-26 Thread Rogelio
Do you have any suggestions for budget friendly set top boxes?

e.g.

TV -> set top box  -> wireless CPE --> wireless stuff outside

(mpeg-2 is most likely what they're looking for, not mpeg-4, as it's in 
South America and they're looking for something very low cost)

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