Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

2009-04-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
My biggest site (something like 9 radios now) is drawing under 20 watts 
these days.  Closer to 15 if my memory serves.

To get that number I used one of the new kill-a-watt units that has an 
ethernet port on it.  A bit spendy but very cool.  It allows me to remotely 
(through a company web site, not my own) monitor what's going on at a tower. 
It will also do power cycling!  Other than the fact that it has to be sent 
to the factory to get firmware updates (how's that for old fashioned?) I 
love the unit.
marlon

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Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:55 PM
Subject: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator


I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will use.
 How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp power
 supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
 I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an
 estimate on kw/hr first.

 Brian


 
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Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

2009-04-20 Thread J. Vogel
Got a link or a model number for that new Kill-a-Watt?  I can't find any
info about it on their site.

John

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 My biggest site (something like 9 radios now) is drawing under 20 watts 
 these days.  Closer to 15 if my memory serves.

 To get that number I used one of the new kill-a-watt units that has an 
 ethernet port on it.  A bit spendy but very cool.  It allows me to remotely 
 (through a company web site, not my own) monitor what's going on at a tower. 
 It will also do power cycling!  Other than the fact that it has to be sent 
 to the factory to get firmware updates (how's that for old fashioned?) I 
 love the unit.
 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:55 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator


   
 I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will use.
 How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp power
 supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
 I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an
 estimate on kw/hr first.

 Brian


 
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Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

2009-04-20 Thread Vickie Edwards
ThinkGeek has 3 different models of the Kill-a-Watt, as well as another
meter-type gadget:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/brain/whereisit.cgi?t=kill+a+wattx=0y=0


 
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Got a link or a model number for that new Kill-a-Watt?  I can't find any
info about it on their site.

John

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 My biggest site (something like 9 radios now) is drawing under 20
watts 
 these days.  Closer to 15 if my memory serves.

 To get that number I used one of the new kill-a-watt units that has an

 ethernet port on it.  A bit spendy but very cool.  It allows me to
remotely 
 (through a company web site, not my own) monitor what's going on at a
tower. 
 It will also do power cycling!  Other than the fact that it has to be
sent 
 to the factory to get firmware updates (how's that for old fashioned?)
I 
 love the unit.
 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:55 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator


   
 I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will
use.
 How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp
power
 supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
 I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an
 estimate on kw/hr first.

 Brian





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Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

2009-04-20 Thread Scott Carullo
P4400 KILL A WATT is what I have

Scott Carullo
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321-205-1100 x102

 Original Message 
 From: J. Vogel jvo...@vogent.com
 Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:34 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator
 
 Got a link or a model number for that new Kill-a-Watt?  I can't find any
 info about it on their site.
 
 John
 
 Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
  My biggest site (something like 9 radios now) is drawing under 20 watts 

  these days.  Closer to 15 if my memory serves.
 
  To get that number I used one of the new kill-a-watt units that has an 

  ethernet port on it.  A bit spendy but very cool.  It allows me to 
remotely 
  (through a company web site, not my own) monitor what's going on at a 
tower. 
  It will also do power cycling!  Other than the fact that it has to be 
sent 
  to the factory to get firmware updates (how's that for old fashioned?) 
I 
  love the unit.
  marlon
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:55 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator
 
 

  I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will 
use.
  How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp 
power
  supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
  I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an
  estimate on kw/hr first.
 
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Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

2009-04-20 Thread J. Vogel
Does it have ethernet, remote monitoring, or power-cycle capability?

John

Scott Carullo wrote:
 P4400 KILL A WATT is what I have

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 321-205-1100 x102

  Original Message 
   
 From: J. Vogel jvo...@vogent.com
 Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:34 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

 Got a link or a model number for that new Kill-a-Watt?  I can't find any
 info about it on their site.

 John

 Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 
 My biggest site (something like 9 radios now) is drawing under 20 watts 
   

   
 these days.  Closer to 15 if my memory serves.

 To get that number I used one of the new kill-a-watt units that has an 
   

   
 ethernet port on it.  A bit spendy but very cool.  It allows me to 
   
 remotely 
   
 (through a company web site, not my own) monitor what's going on at a 
   
 tower. 
   
 It will also do power cycling!  Other than the fact that it has to be 
   
 sent 
   
 to the factory to get firmware updates (how's that for old fashioned?) 
   
 I 
   
 love the unit.
 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:55 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator


   
   
 I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will 
 
 use.
   
 How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp 
 
 power
   
 supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
 I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an
 estimate on kw/hr first.

 Brian



 
 
 
   
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Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

2009-04-20 Thread J. Vogel
Marlon referenced a new kill-a-watt that has an ethernet port, remote
monitoring, and power-cycling capability. I can't find any of those
features mentioned on any of the models on the kill-a-watt site, or on
the thinkgeek.com link you provided. Perhaps I missed it. Thanks for the
link though. :)

John

Vickie Edwards wrote:
 ThinkGeek has 3 different models of the Kill-a-Watt, as well as another
 meter-type gadget:

 http://www.thinkgeek.com/brain/whereisit.cgi?t=kill+a+wattx=0y=0


 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of J. Vogel
 Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 11:34 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

 Got a link or a model number for that new Kill-a-Watt?  I can't find any
 info about it on their site.

 John

 Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
   
 My biggest site (something like 9 radios now) is drawing under 20
 
 watts 
   
 these days.  Closer to 15 if my memory serves.

 To get that number I used one of the new kill-a-watt units that has an
 

   
 ethernet port on it.  A bit spendy but very cool.  It allows me to
 
 remotely 
   
 (through a company web site, not my own) monitor what's going on at a
 
 tower. 
   
 It will also do power cycling!  Other than the fact that it has to be
 
 sent 
   
 to the factory to get firmware updates (how's that for old fashioned?)
 
 I 
   
 love the unit.
 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:55 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator


   
 
 I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will
   
 use.
   
 How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp
   
 power
   
 supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
 I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an
 estimate on kw/hr first.

 Brian



   
 
 
   
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Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

2009-04-20 Thread Scott Carullo

No - sorry missed that part of the conversation just had one sitting here

APC PDUs have the ability to see total power consumption but not per port - 
not the ones I have any way. They have the pther feature You asked for as 
well.

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102

 Original Message 
 From: J. Vogel jvo...@vogent.com
 Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:45 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator
 
 Does it have ethernet, remote monitoring, or power-cycle capability?
 
 John
 
 Scott Carullo wrote:
  P4400 KILL A WATT is what I have
 
  Scott Carullo
  Brevard Wireless
  321-205-1100 x102
 
   Original Message 

  From: J. Vogel jvo...@vogent.com
  Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:34 PM
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator
 
  Got a link or a model number for that new Kill-a-Watt?  I can't find 
any
  info about it on their site.
 
  John
 
  Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
  
  My biggest site (something like 9 radios now) is drawing under 20 
watts 

 

  these days.  Closer to 15 if my memory serves.
 
  To get that number I used one of the new kill-a-watt units that has 
an 

 

  ethernet port on it.  A bit spendy but very cool.  It allows me to 

  remotely 

  (through a company web site, not my own) monitor what's going on at a 


  tower. 

  It will also do power cycling!  Other than the fact that it has to be 


  sent 

  to the factory to get firmware updates (how's that for old 
fashioned?) 

  I 

  love the unit.
  marlon
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:55 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator
 
 


  I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will 
  
  use.

  How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp 
  
  power

  supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
  I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an
  estimate on kw/hr first.
 
  Brian
 
 
 
  
  


  

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Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

2009-04-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
It's really new.  Just call them.  They are great to work with.
marlon

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 Got a link or a model number for that new Kill-a-Watt?  I can't find any
 info about it on their site.

 John

 Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 My biggest site (something like 9 radios now) is drawing under 20 watts
 these days.  Closer to 15 if my memory serves.

 To get that number I used one of the new kill-a-watt units that has an
 ethernet port on it.  A bit spendy but very cool.  It allows me to 
 remotely
 (through a company web site, not my own) monitor what's going on at a 
 tower.
 It will also do power cycling!  Other than the fact that it has to be 
 sent
 to the factory to get firmware updates (how's that for old fashioned?) I
 love the unit.
 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:55 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator



 I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will use.
 How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp power
 supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
 I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an
 estimate on kw/hr first.

 Brian


 
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[WISPA] electricity usage calculator

2009-04-19 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will use.
How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp power 
supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an 
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Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

2009-04-19 Thread eje
about 15watt total consumption from what you have there. 5w for the RB, then 
5watt per radio card (actually little less but no more). 

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I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will use.
How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp power 
supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an 
estimate on kw/hr first.

Brian



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Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

2009-04-19 Thread eje
about 15watt total consumption from what you have there. 5w for the RB, then 
5watt per radio card (actually little less but no more). 

/Eje
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I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will use.
How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp power 
supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an 
estimate on kw/hr first.

Brian



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Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

2009-04-19 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Go get a kill-a-watt http://backwoodssolar.com/catalog/meters.htm  
and run it for a few hours. You can show your tower owner what you  
will be using...

This little device is also great for finding power thieves in your home.


ryan


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On Apr 19, 2009, at 1:06 PM, e...@wisp-router.com wrote:

 about 15watt total consumption from what you have there. 5w for the  
 RB, then 5watt per radio card (actually little less but no more).

 /Eje
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 From: Brian Rohrbacher
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 Subject: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator
 Sent: Apr 19, 2009 14:55

 I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will  
 use.
 How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp  
 power
 supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
 I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an
 estimate on kw/hr first.

 Brian


 
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Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

2009-04-19 Thread Brian Rohrbacher




Ya, i have a couple already.

D. Ryan Spott wrote:

  Go get a "kill-a-watt" http://backwoodssolar.com/catalog/meters.htm  
and run it for a few hours. You can show your tower owner what you  
will be using...

This little device is also great for finding power thieves in your home.


ryan


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On Apr 19, 2009, at 1:06 PM, e...@wisp-router.com wrote:

  
  
about 15watt total consumption from what you have there. 5w for the  
RB, then 5watt per radio card (actually little less but no more).

/Eje
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I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will  
use.
How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp  
power
supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an
estimate on kw/hr first.

Brian



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Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

2009-04-19 Thread Brian Rohrbacher




Just found a pretty neat calculator online. They have average prices
for all states.

http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/howmuch.html

Here is my screen shot on the calc I ran. (I based it off an 18 watt
compact bulb.


Brian

e...@wisp-router.com wrote:

  about 15watt total consumption from what you have there. 5w for the RB, then 5watt per radio card (actually little less but no more). 

/Eje
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I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will use.
How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp power 
supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an 
estimate on kw/hr first.

Brian



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Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

2009-04-19 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Brian,

I have a tower site that has its own electric meter since 3 years ago. Have
had several AP's and Backhaul's on it and the meter still reads 0, 3
years later. Electric company thought I wasn't reading the meter and sent a
guy out to re-calibrate it. He said it was accurate.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 
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Subject: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will use.
How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp power 
supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an 
estimate on kw/hr first.

Brian




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Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

2009-04-19 Thread Scott Reed
So you multiply 15W x hours in a month (about 720) getting 10800 
watt-hours.  Divide by 1000 to get 10.8KW Hours per month.

e...@wisp-router.com wrote:
 about 15watt total consumption from what you have there. 5w for the RB, then 
 5watt per radio card (actually little less but no more). 

 /Eje
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 From: Brian Rohrbacher
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 Subject: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator
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 I have a new tower site and the owner ask how much electric I will use.
 How can I calculate that?  For now all I will have is one 24v 2amp power 
 supply going to a rb433ah with an xr2 omni and a xr5 backhaul.
 I can roughly guess the price per kilowatt hr but I need to get an 
 estimate on kw/hr first.

 Brian


 
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