[WISPA] lots o' lag on Microtik

2009-11-05 Thread Forbes Mercy
I recently put up an 11km link of Microtik using Aetheros AR5413 chips
on 433AH boards running WDS and NStream. Their connection is -69 and
54MB each way.  On the Master side pings average 2-10ms, on the far side
its 20-40ms.

We're running 6-9MBps throughput on average.  During peak usage the far
side of the link starts lagging at 40-100ms.  What can I do to improve
this?

Thanks,
Forbes




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Re: [WISPA] lots o' lag on Microtik

2009-11-05 Thread Jayson Baker
Turn it into an nsteme-dual link, using 2 antennas and radios on each end.
1ms all day long

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Forbes Mercy
forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote:

 I recently put up an 11km link of Microtik using Aetheros AR5413 chips
 on 433AH boards running WDS and NStream. Their connection is -69 and
 54MB each way.  On the Master side pings average 2-10ms, on the far side
 its 20-40ms.

 We're running 6-9MBps throughput on average.  During peak usage the far
 side of the link starts lagging at 40-100ms.  What can I do to improve
 this?

 Thanks,
 Forbes




 
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Re: [WISPA] lots o' lag on Microtik

2009-11-05 Thread Scott Carullo
gotta be interference try different channel / polarization

if you already did that which i assume then we have to start asking what 
ROS you have, what wireless card exactly you have ect

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From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 9:06 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] lots o' lag on Microtik

I recently put up an 11km link of Microtik using Aetheros AR5413 chips
on 433AH boards running WDS and NStream. Their connection is -69 and
54MB each way.  On the Master side pings average 2-10ms, on the far side
its 20-40ms.

We're running 6-9MBps throughput on average.  During peak usage the far
side of the link starts lagging at 40-100ms.  What can I do to improve
this?

Thanks,
Forbes



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Re: [WISPA] lots o' lag on Microtik

2009-11-05 Thread Scott Carullo
Do not do this, especially if you are having problems with regular nstream 
link by itself  fix your current problem before you go adding twice the 
components and 4 times the complexity and twice the spectrum

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102




From: Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 9:23 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] lots o' lag on Microtik

Turn it into an nsteme-dual link, using 2 antennas and radios on each end.
1ms all day long

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Forbes Mercy
forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote:

 I recently put up an 11km link of Microtik using Aetheros AR5413 chips
 on 433AH boards running WDS and NStream. Their connection is -69 and
 54MB each way.  On the Master side pings average 2-10ms, on the far side
 its 20-40ms.

 We're running 6-9MBps throughput on average.  During peak usage the far
 side of the link starts lagging at 40-100ms.  What can I do to improve
 this?

 Thanks,
 Forbes




 


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Re: [WISPA] lots o' lag on Microtik

2009-11-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Wds and nstreme have all kinds of problems without wireless-test I think.

On 11/5/09, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote:
 Do not do this, especially if you are having problems with regular nstream
 link by itself  fix your current problem before you go adding twice the
 components and 4 times the complexity and twice the spectrum

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 321-205-1100 x102


 

 From: Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com
 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 9:23 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] lots o' lag on Microtik

 Turn it into an nsteme-dual link, using 2 antennas and radios on each end.
 1ms all day long

 On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Forbes Mercy
 forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote:

 I recently put up an 11km link of Microtik using Aetheros AR5413 chips
 on 433AH boards running WDS and NStream. Their connection is -69 and
 54MB each way.  On the Master side pings average 2-10ms, on the far side
 its 20-40ms.

 We're running 6-9MBps throughput on average.  During peak usage the far
 side of the link starts lagging at 40-100ms.  What can I do to improve
 this?

 Thanks,
 Forbes





 
 
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Re: [WISPA] lots o' lag on Microtik

2009-11-05 Thread Jeremy Parr
2009/11/5 Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com:
 Wds and nstreme have all kinds of problems without wireless-test I think.

Doesn't 4.x roll up wireless-test and routing-test from the 4.x betas
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Re: [WISPA] lots o' lag on Microtik

2009-11-05 Thread Travis Johnson




I have many WDS and Nstreme links running on v3 without wireless-test.

Travis
Microserv

Josh Luthman wrote:

  Wds and nstreme have all kinds of problems without wireless-test I think.

On 11/5/09, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote:
  
  
Do not do this, especially if you are having problems with regular nstream
link by itself  fix your current problem before you go adding twice the
components and 4 times the complexity and twice the spectrum

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102




From: "Jayson Baker" jay...@spectrasurf.com
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 9:23 PM
To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] lots o' lag on Microtik

Turn it into an nsteme-dual link, using 2 antennas and radios on each end.
1ms all day long

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Forbes Mercy
forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote:



  I recently put up an 11km link of Microtik using Aetheros AR5413 chips
on 433AH boards running WDS and NStream. Their connection is -69 and
54MB each way.  On the Master side pings average 2-10ms, on the far side
its 20-40ms.

We're running 6-9MBps throughput on average.  During peak usage the far
side of the link starts lagging at 40-100ms.  What can I do to improve
this?

Thanks,
Forbes





  





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Re: [WISPA] lots o' lag on Microtik

2009-11-05 Thread Scott Carullo
Hey Travis once I moved some 3.28-30 level nstream links to 4.1 I had some 
issues where it acted like some interference but only thing changed was the 
ROS on several links.  Have you seen anything like this yourself or are you 
not running v4 yet.

lol I just have a problem learning the if it works good leave it alone 
lesson :)

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102




From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:04 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] lots o' lag on Microtik

I have many WDS and Nstreme links running on v3 without wireless-test.

Travis
Microserv

Josh Luthman wrote:

Wds and nstreme have all kinds of problems without wireless-test I think.  
On 11/5/09, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote:   

Do not do this, especially if you are having problems with regular nstream 
link by itself  fix your current problem before you go adding twice the 
components and 4 times the complexity and twice the spectrum  Scott 
Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102   
  From: Jayson Baker 
jay...@spectrasurf.com
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 9:23 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] lots o' lag on Microtik

Turn it into an nsteme-dual link, using 2 antennas and radios on each end.
1ms all day long

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Forbes Mercy
forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote:  

I recently put up an 11km link of Microtik using Aetheros AR5413 chips on 
433AH boards running WDS and NStream. Their connection is -69 and 54MB each 
way.  On the Master side pings average 2-10ms, on the far side its 20-40ms. 
 We're running 6-9MBps throughput on average.  During peak usage the far 
side of the link starts lagging at 40-100ms.  What can I do to improve 
this?  Thanks, Forbes


  

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Re: [WISPA] lots o' lag on Microtik

2009-11-05 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi,

I have several X86 ethernet routers running v4.2, but no wireless links 
(yet).

Travis
Microserv

Scott Carullo wrote:
 Hey Travis once I moved some 3.28-30 level nstream links to 4.1 I had some 
 issues where it acted like some interference but only thing changed was the 
 ROS on several links.  Have you seen anything like this yourself or are you 
 not running v4 yet.

 lol I just have a problem learning the if it works good leave it alone 
 lesson :)

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 321-205-1100 x102


 

 From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net
 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:04 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] lots o' lag on Microtik

 I have many WDS and Nstreme links running on v3 without wireless-test.

 Travis
 Microserv

 Josh Luthman wrote:

 Wds and nstreme have all kinds of problems without wireless-test I think.  
 On 11/5/09, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote:   

 Do not do this, especially if you are having problems with regular nstream 
 link by itself  fix your current problem before you go adding twice the 
 components and 4 times the complexity and twice the spectrum  Scott 
 Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102   
   From: Jayson Baker 
 jay...@spectrasurf.com
 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 9:23 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] lots o' lag on Microtik

 Turn it into an nsteme-dual link, using 2 antennas and radios on each end.
 1ms all day long

 On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Forbes Mercy
 forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote:  

 I recently put up an 11km link of Microtik using Aetheros AR5413 chips on 
 433AH boards running WDS and NStream. Their connection is -69 and 54MB each 
 way.  On the Master side pings average 2-10ms, on the far side its 20-40ms. 
  We're running 6-9MBps throughput on average.  During peak usage the far 
 side of the link starts lagging at 40-100ms.  What can I do to improve 
 this?  Thanks, Forbes

 
   

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Re: [WISPA] lots o' lag on Microtik

2009-11-05 Thread Butch Evans
On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 23:12 -0500, Scott Carullo wrote: 
 Hey Travis once I moved some 3.28-30 level nstream links to 4.1 I had some 
 issues where it acted like some interference but only thing changed was the 
 ROS on several links.  Have you seen anything like this yourself or are you 
 not running v4 yet.

I have seen SEVERAL issues with v4.1 and 4.2 running nstreme or not.  It
does not seem to affect the rb600a boards, whatever is causing it.  I
have seen great links show HORRIBLE performance on rb532 and several in
the RB400 series.  Downgrading these to v3.30 brings back the link to
stable.  I'm not sure the cause, but v4.x is not stable with wireless on
the rb400 or rb500 boards, yet.  FWIW, I have other customers who had no
problem when they upgraded.  Not sure the difference.
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Re: [WISPA] lots o' lag on Microtik

2009-11-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Ethernet routers work fine for me, too.

On 11/5/09, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:
 Hi,

 I have several X86 ethernet routers running v4.2, but no wireless links
 (yet).

 Travis
 Microserv

 Scott Carullo wrote:
 Hey Travis once I moved some 3.28-30 level nstream links to 4.1 I had some

 issues where it acted like some interference but only thing changed was
 the
 ROS on several links.  Have you seen anything like this yourself or are
 you
 not running v4 yet.

 lol I just have a problem learning the if it works good leave it alone
 lesson :)

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 321-205-1100 x102


 

 From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net
 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:04 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] lots o' lag on Microtik

 I have many WDS and Nstreme links running on v3 without wireless-test.

 Travis
 Microserv

 Josh Luthman wrote:

 Wds and nstreme have all kinds of problems without wireless-test I think.

 On 11/5/09, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote:

 Do not do this, especially if you are having problems with regular nstream

 link by itself  fix your current problem before you go adding twice
 the
 components and 4 times the complexity and twice the spectrum  Scott
 Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102
   From: Jayson Baker
 jay...@spectrasurf.com
 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 9:23 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] lots o' lag on Microtik

 Turn it into an nsteme-dual link, using 2 antennas and radios on each end.
 1ms all day long

 On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Forbes Mercy
 forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote:

 I recently put up an 11km link of Microtik using Aetheros AR5413 chips on
 433AH boards running WDS and NStream. Their connection is -69 and 54MB
 each
 way.  On the Master side pings average 2-10ms, on the far side its
 20-40ms.
  We're running 6-9MBps throughput on average.  During peak usage the far
 side of the link starts lagging at 40-100ms.  What can I do to improve
 this?  Thanks, Forbes

 
  

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