Re: [WISPA] tower erection question
Wasn't it Rick Kunse (not sure spelling of last name the guy with the speed boat? I just did the base for a 120ft tower. Concrete, rebar, dirt work ran $8200 could gotten it a little cheaper but that guy was taking way to long on a different job so went with another company that cost a bit more but got it done fast and did a great job. That was for 10 cu feet of concrete. In a single pour into one single hole. For a 200ft either you have a giant slab or three piers. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:35:00 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question Note, At WISPCON II, I think it was Jeremy, that did a session about his experience installing a 200ft self standing tower, that he got put up for $25k, all costs included. (allthough that is the lowest i've ever seen reported) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question That seems awful cheap to me...I would expect at least $50k or more. A 200' self-supporting tower cost me about $65k and I did all of the leg work. If you have a tower crew, I would expect $15k for labor, $2000 for earthwork, and I don't know the concrete requirements so maybe $1000, $3000-5000 for fencing, $7000 for lighting, $5k for paperwork and variances (don't forget to notify the FAA, EPA, and some Indian preservation group). I figure roughly $33k just for construction. That is not including a building and steel (tower price). The paperwork is the hardest part to get completed. It isn't hard work, just busy work. Thanks, Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question So more or less a turn key tower? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and construction? Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.17/1846 - Release Date: 12/12/2008 6:59 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower erection question
That would have been Rick Kunze. http://www.do-it-yourself-tower.com/ Where is he, anyway? I haven't heard from him in a long itme... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:35 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question Note, At WISPCON II, I think it was Jeremy, that did a session about his experience installing a 200ft self standing tower, that he got put up for $25k, all costs included. (allthough that is the lowest i've ever seen reported) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question That seems awful cheap to me...I would expect at least $50k or more. A 200' self-supporting tower cost me about $65k and I did all of the leg work. If you have a tower crew, I would expect $15k for labor, $2000 for earthwork, and I don't know the concrete requirements so maybe $1000, $3000-5000 for fencing, $7000 for lighting, $5k for paperwork and variances (don't forget to notify the FAA, EPA, and some Indian preservation group). I figure roughly $33k just for construction. That is not including a building and steel (tower price). The paperwork is the hardest part to get completed. It isn't hard work, just busy work. Thanks, Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question So more or less a turn key tower? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and construction? Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.17/1846 - Release Date: 12/12/2008 6:59 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower erection question
Odd, I swear that was Rick. Oh well... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:44 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question Nope, the presentation I was referring to was WISPCONII day 3. Specialized - Building Your Own Tower - Learn how to select a site, pick the right tower, get construction approval, order all the components, and actually install your own communications tower. Also in this presentation the attendee will discover how to select the proper cell structure to cover those areas of interest to the WISP. Site selection based on coverage area desired, interference from competitors, and much more will be discussed. Panelists: Jeremy Anthony Kinsey - CEO Co Founder, Bella Mia, Inc (Mia.Net) Moderator: TBA Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question That would have been Rick Kunze. http://www.do-it-yourself-tower.com/ Where is he, anyway? I haven't heard from him in a long itme... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:35 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question Note, At WISPCON II, I think it was Jeremy, that did a session about his experience installing a 200ft self standing tower, that he got put up for $25k, all costs included. (allthough that is the lowest i've ever seen reported) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question That seems awful cheap to me...I would expect at least $50k or more. A 200' self-supporting tower cost me about $65k and I did all of the leg work. If you have a tower crew, I would expect $15k for labor, $2000 for earthwork, and I don't know the concrete requirements so maybe $1000, $3000-5000 for fencing, $7000 for lighting, $5k for paperwork and variances (don't forget to notify the FAA, EPA, and some Indian preservation group). I figure roughly $33k just for construction. That is not including a building and steel (tower price). The paperwork is the hardest part to get completed. It isn't hard work, just busy work. Thanks, Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question So more or less a turn key tower? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and construction? Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.17/1846
Re: [WISPA] tower erection question
My understanding is that Rick also did a session, but it was a second one at a different season of WISPCON, I think. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question Odd, I swear that was Rick. Oh well... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:44 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question Nope, the presentation I was referring to was WISPCONII day 3. Specialized - Building Your Own Tower - Learn how to select a site, pick the right tower, get construction approval, order all the components, and actually install your own communications tower. Also in this presentation the attendee will discover how to select the proper cell structure to cover those areas of interest to the WISP. Site selection based on coverage area desired, interference from competitors, and much more will be discussed. Panelists: Jeremy Anthony Kinsey - CEO Co Founder, Bella Mia, Inc (Mia.Net) Moderator: TBA Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question That would have been Rick Kunze. http://www.do-it-yourself-tower.com/ Where is he, anyway? I haven't heard from him in a long itme... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:35 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question Note, At WISPCON II, I think it was Jeremy, that did a session about his experience installing a 200ft self standing tower, that he got put up for $25k, all costs included. (allthough that is the lowest i've ever seen reported) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question That seems awful cheap to me...I would expect at least $50k or more. A 200' self-supporting tower cost me about $65k and I did all of the leg work. If you have a tower crew, I would expect $15k for labor, $2000 for earthwork, and I don't know the concrete requirements so maybe $1000, $3000-5000 for fencing, $7000 for lighting, $5k for paperwork and variances (don't forget to notify the FAA, EPA, and some Indian preservation group). I figure roughly $33k just for construction. That is not including a building and steel (tower price). The paperwork is the hardest part to get completed. It isn't hard work, just busy work. Thanks, Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question So more or less a turn key tower? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and construction? Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants
Re: [WISPA] tower erection question
ah. Yeah, I'm not sure if I was at WISPCON 2 or not... 3 may have been my earliest, actually. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 1:42 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question My understanding is that Rick also did a session, but it was a second one at a different season of WISPCON, I think. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question Odd, I swear that was Rick. Oh well... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:44 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question Nope, the presentation I was referring to was WISPCONII day 3. Specialized - Building Your Own Tower - Learn how to select a site, pick the right tower, get construction approval, order all the components, and actually install your own communications tower. Also in this presentation the attendee will discover how to select the proper cell structure to cover those areas of interest to the WISP. Site selection based on coverage area desired, interference from competitors, and much more will be discussed. Panelists: Jeremy Anthony Kinsey - CEO Co Founder, Bella Mia, Inc (Mia.Net) Moderator: TBA Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question That would have been Rick Kunze. http://www.do-it-yourself-tower.com/ Where is he, anyway? I haven't heard from him in a long itme... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:35 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question Note, At WISPCON II, I think it was Jeremy, that did a session about his experience installing a 200ft self standing tower, that he got put up for $25k, all costs included. (allthough that is the lowest i've ever seen reported) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question That seems awful cheap to me...I would expect at least $50k or more. A 200' self-supporting tower cost me about $65k and I did all of the leg work. If you have a tower crew, I would expect $15k for labor, $2000 for earthwork, and I don't know the concrete requirements so maybe $1000, $3000-5000 for fencing, $7000 for lighting, $5k for paperwork and variances (don't forget to notify the FAA, EPA, and some Indian preservation group). I figure roughly $33k just for construction. That is not including a building and steel (tower price). The paperwork is the hardest part to get completed. It isn't hard work, just busy work. Thanks, Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question So more or less a turn key tower? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and construction? Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] tower erection question
Yeah that is right. I slept since then. Only one that I could think of was Rick that had done one but yes Jeremy did one to I think it was at an earlier WISPCon then Rick. I think Rick did his on WISPCon III. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 1:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question My understanding is that Rick also did a session, but it was a second one at a different season of WISPCON, I think. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question Odd, I swear that was Rick. Oh well... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:44 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question Nope, the presentation I was referring to was WISPCONII day 3. Specialized - Building Your Own Tower - Learn how to select a site, pick the right tower, get construction approval, order all the components, and actually install your own communications tower. Also in this presentation the attendee will discover how to select the proper cell structure to cover those areas of interest to the WISP. Site selection based on coverage area desired, interference from competitors, and much more will be discussed. Panelists: Jeremy Anthony Kinsey - CEO Co Founder, Bella Mia, Inc (Mia.Net) Moderator: TBA Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question That would have been Rick Kunze. http://www.do-it-yourself-tower.com/ Where is he, anyway? I haven't heard from him in a long itme... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:35 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question Note, At WISPCON II, I think it was Jeremy, that did a session about his experience installing a 200ft self standing tower, that he got put up for $25k, all costs included. (allthough that is the lowest i've ever seen reported) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question That seems awful cheap to me...I would expect at least $50k or more. A 200' self-supporting tower cost me about $65k and I did all of the leg work. If you have a tower crew, I would expect $15k for labor, $2000 for earthwork, and I don't know the concrete requirements so maybe $1000, $3000-5000 for fencing, $7000 for lighting, $5k for paperwork and variances (don't forget to notify the FAA, EPA, and some Indian preservation group). I figure roughly $33k just for construction. That is not including a building and steel (tower price). The paperwork is the hardest part to get completed. It isn't hard work, just busy work. Thanks, Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question So more or less a turn key tower? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and construction? Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] tower erection question
Yep, Ricks session was WispCon3 Specialized - Do It Yourself Tower Installations - A Case History - This is a step by step trials and tribulations of one WISPs experience in erecting his own, large tower. Panelists: Rick Kunze Moderator: Jeremy Kinsey Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question Yeah that is right. I slept since then. Only one that I could think of was Rick that had done one but yes Jeremy did one to I think it was at an earlier WISPCon then Rick. I think Rick did his on WISPCon III. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 1:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question My understanding is that Rick also did a session, but it was a second one at a different season of WISPCON, I think. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question Odd, I swear that was Rick. Oh well... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:44 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question Nope, the presentation I was referring to was WISPCONII day 3. Specialized - Building Your Own Tower - Learn how to select a site, pick the right tower, get construction approval, order all the components, and actually install your own communications tower. Also in this presentation the attendee will discover how to select the proper cell structure to cover those areas of interest to the WISP. Site selection based on coverage area desired, interference from competitors, and much more will be discussed. Panelists: Jeremy Anthony Kinsey - CEO Co Founder, Bella Mia, Inc (Mia.Net) Moderator: TBA Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question That would have been Rick Kunze. http://www.do-it-yourself-tower.com/ Where is he, anyway? I haven't heard from him in a long itme... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:35 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question Note, At WISPCON II, I think it was Jeremy, that did a session about his experience installing a 200ft self standing tower, that he got put up for $25k, all costs included. (allthough that is the lowest i've ever seen reported) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question That seems awful cheap to me...I would expect at least $50k or more. A 200' self-supporting tower cost me about $65k and I did all of the leg work. If you have a tower crew, I would expect $15k for labor, $2000 for earthwork, and I don't know the concrete requirements so maybe $1000, $3000-5000 for fencing, $7000 for lighting, $5k for paperwork and variances (don't forget to notify the FAA, EPA, and some Indian preservation group). I figure roughly $33k just for construction. That is not including a building and steel (tower price). The paperwork is the hardest part to get completed. It isn't hard work, just busy work. Thanks, Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question So more or less a turn key tower? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and construction
Re: [WISPA] tower erection question
That seems awful cheap to me...I would expect at least $50k or more. A 200' self-supporting tower cost me about $65k and I did all of the leg work. If you have a tower crew, I would expect $15k for labor, $2000 for earthwork, and I don't know the concrete requirements so maybe $1000, $3000-5000 for fencing, $7000 for lighting, $5k for paperwork and variances (don't forget to notify the FAA, EPA, and some Indian preservation group). I figure roughly $33k just for construction. That is not including a building and steel (tower price). The paperwork is the hardest part to get completed. It isn't hard work, just busy work. Thanks, Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question So more or less a turn key tower? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and construction? Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower erection question
Hey Chris, There are a pile of tower guys on the yahoo tower-pro list that are looking for work. You might want to hit them up for a price. http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/Tower-pro/ Jim chris cooper wrote: Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and construction? Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower erection question
A self supporting tower is more expensive to install sue to base requirements and construction techniques. When I quoted installation pricing I was quoting concrete and steel. I am not talking about zoning, fencing, shelters, or the cost of lighting systems. The number I quoted is foundation with anchor points and putting steel up. Most crews with a gin pole can raise 300' of 65G in 3 days. We are not talking rocket science here. And will probably do it with 3 guys. So 3 Guys x 5 days x $800 per man is $12K. Add another $3 -$5K for foundation. $20K MAYBE Its only 65G Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:36:37 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question That seems awful cheap to me...I would expect at least $50k or more. A 200' self-supporting tower cost me about $65k and I did all of the leg work. If you have a tower crew, I would expect $15k for labor, $2000 for earthwork, and I don't know the concrete requirements so maybe $1000, $3000-5000 for fencing, $7000 for lighting, $5k for paperwork and variances (don't forget to notify the FAA, EPA, and some Indian preservation group). I figure roughly $33k just for construction. That is not including a building and steel (tower price). The paperwork is the hardest part to get completed. It isn't hard work, just busy work. Thanks, Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question So more or less a turn key tower? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and construction? Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower erection question
It looks like we are saying the same thing, just differently...I said foundation and tower construction would be roughly $17-20k. My guestimate was for a turn-key, you provide the tower sections and when it is complete, your antennas are in the air. I re-read his email and it was only for tower construction, earthwork, and steel, not for the remainder services (though they are required for a 300' tower). Respectfully, Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question A self supporting tower is more expensive to install sue to base requirements and construction techniques. When I quoted installation pricing I was quoting concrete and steel. I am not talking about zoning, fencing, shelters, or the cost of lighting systems. The number I quoted is foundation with anchor points and putting steel up. Most crews with a gin pole can raise 300' of 65G in 3 days. We are not talking rocket science here. And will probably do it with 3 guys. So 3 Guys x 5 days x $800 per man is $12K. Add another $3 -$5K for foundation. $20K MAYBE Its only 65G Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:36:37 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question That seems awful cheap to me...I would expect at least $50k or more. A 200' self-supporting tower cost me about $65k and I did all of the leg work. If you have a tower crew, I would expect $15k for labor, $2000 for earthwork, and I don't know the concrete requirements so maybe $1000, $3000-5000 for fencing, $7000 for lighting, $5k for paperwork and variances (don't forget to notify the FAA, EPA, and some Indian preservation group). I figure roughly $33k just for construction. That is not including a building and steel (tower price). The paperwork is the hardest part to get completed. It isn't hard work, just busy work. Thanks, Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question So more or less a turn key tower? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and construction? Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] tower erection question
Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and construction? Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower erection question
$15-18K maybe a little less if you are out in the woods. -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:22:16 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and construction? Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower erection question
Just curious - why would it be cheaper in the woods? On 12/12/08, lakel...@gbcx.net lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: $15-18K maybe a little less if you are out in the woods. -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:22:16 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and construction? Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower erection question
So more or less a turn key tower? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and construction? Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
