Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
Are the Access point and the Station set to WDS. Ubnt recommends this for the units to be a full transparent bridge. We had a similar issue and this fixed it for us. -Cameron Thanks, Cameron Kilton Project Manager Midcoast Internet Solutions http://www.midcoast.com c...@midcoast.com (207) 594-8277 x 108 On 4/1/2010 11:47 PM, RickG wrote: I had a similar situation recently that I never figured out. WRAP/StarOS on a tower and for some reason the CM9 radio card would no longer connect to the source for backhaul. So, I added a BM5 in bridge mode to the ethernet port. All the clients on the StarOS/WRAP worked great but I could no longer see them from the core side of the network. I tried everything before giving up and putting a BM2 on the top of the tower. Working really well now but I'd love to know why it didnt work. -RickG On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Data Technologyw...@dtisp.com wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
If a UBNT radio is used solely as an AP (not bridged to another unit) would turning WDS on or off have any effect on the handling of data? Greg On Apr 12, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Cameron Kilton wrote: Are the Access point and the Station set to WDS. Ubnt recommends this for the units to be a full transparent bridge. We had a similar issue and this fixed it for us. -Cameron Thanks, Cameron Kilton Project Manager Midcoast Internet Solutions http://www.midcoast.com c...@midcoast.com (207) 594-8277 x 108 On 4/1/2010 11:47 PM, RickG wrote: I had a similar situation recently that I never figured out. WRAP/StarOS on a tower and for some reason the CM9 radio card would no longer connect to the source for backhaul. So, I added a BM5 in bridge mode to the ethernet port. All the clients on the StarOS/WRAP worked great but I could no longer see them from the core side of the network. I tried everything before giving up and putting a BM2 on the top of the tower. Working really well now but I'd love to know why it didnt work. -RickG On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Data Technologyw...@dtisp.com wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
Depends if the station/CPE was using WDS. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: If a UBNT radio is used solely as an AP (not bridged to another unit) would turning WDS on or off have any effect on the handling of data? Greg On Apr 12, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Cameron Kilton wrote: Are the Access point and the Station set to WDS. Ubnt recommends this for the units to be a full transparent bridge. We had a similar issue and this fixed it for us. -Cameron Thanks, Cameron Kilton Project Manager Midcoast Internet Solutions http://www.midcoast.com c...@midcoast.com (207) 594-8277 x 108 On 4/1/2010 11:47 PM, RickG wrote: I had a similar situation recently that I never figured out. WRAP/StarOS on a tower and for some reason the CM9 radio card would no longer connect to the source for backhaul. So, I added a BM5 in bridge mode to the ethernet port. All the clients on the StarOS/WRAP worked great but I could no longer see them from the core side of the network. I tried everything before giving up and putting a BM2 on the top of the tower. Working really well now but I'd love to know why it didnt work. -RickG On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Data Technologyw...@dtisp.com wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
If the only clients are laptops (no WDS) to a Bullet or NS2 would WDS being on offer anything? Thanks! Greg On Apr 12, 2010, at 1:53 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Depends if the station/CPE was using WDS. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: If a UBNT radio is used solely as an AP (not bridged to another unit) would turning WDS on or off have any effect on the handling of data? Greg On Apr 12, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Cameron Kilton wrote: Are the Access point and the Station set to WDS. Ubnt recommends this for the units to be a full transparent bridge. We had a similar issue and this fixed it for us. -Cameron Thanks, Cameron Kilton Project Manager Midcoast Internet Solutions http://www.midcoast.com c...@midcoast.com (207) 594-8277 x 108 On 4/1/2010 11:47 PM, RickG wrote: I had a similar situation recently that I never figured out. WRAP/StarOS on a tower and for some reason the CM9 radio card would no longer connect to the source for backhaul. So, I added a BM5 in bridge mode to the ethernet port. All the clients on the StarOS/WRAP worked great but I could no longer see them from the core side of the network. I tried everything before giving up and putting a BM2 on the top of the tower. Working really well now but I'd love to know why it didnt work. -RickG On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Data Technologyw...@dtisp.com wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
Usually adds trouble in that case. I have had good luck NATing at the bullet/NS2 devices. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: If the only clients are laptops (no WDS) to a Bullet or NS2 would WDS being on offer anything? Thanks! Greg On Apr 12, 2010, at 1:53 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Depends if the station/CPE was using WDS. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: If a UBNT radio is used solely as an AP (not bridged to another unit) would turning WDS on or off have any effect on the handling of data? Greg On Apr 12, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Cameron Kilton wrote: Are the Access point and the Station set to WDS. Ubnt recommends this for the units to be a full transparent bridge. We had a similar issue and this fixed it for us. -Cameron Thanks, Cameron Kilton Project Manager Midcoast Internet Solutions http://www.midcoast.com c...@midcoast.com (207) 594-8277 x 108 On 4/1/2010 11:47 PM, RickG wrote: I had a similar situation recently that I never figured out. WRAP/StarOS on a tower and for some reason the CM9 radio card would no longer connect to the source for backhaul. So, I added a BM5 in bridge mode to the ethernet port. All the clients on the StarOS/WRAP worked great but I could no longer see them from the core side of the network. I tried everything before giving up and putting a BM2 on the top of the tower. Working really well now but I'd love to know why it didnt work. -RickG On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Data Technologyw...@dtisp.com wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
Sicne the AP's are WRAPs and dont do WDS (that I know of) I ended up swapping out the WRAP with a BM2. Works great now! On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: Are the Access point and the Station set to WDS. Ubnt recommends this for the units to be a full transparent bridge. We had a similar issue and this fixed it for us. -Cameron Thanks, Cameron Kilton Project Manager Midcoast Internet Solutions http://www.midcoast.com c...@midcoast.com (207) 594-8277 x 108 On 4/1/2010 11:47 PM, RickG wrote: I had a similar situation recently that I never figured out. WRAP/StarOS on a tower and for some reason the CM9 radio card would no longer connect to the source for backhaul. So, I added a BM5 in bridge mode to the ethernet port. All the clients on the StarOS/WRAP worked great but I could no longer see them from the core side of the network. I tried everything before giving up and putting a BM2 on the top of the tower. Working really well now but I'd love to know why it didnt work. -RickG On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Data Technologyw...@dtisp.com wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
It wasnt. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Depends if the station/CPE was using WDS. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: If a UBNT radio is used solely as an AP (not bridged to another unit) would turning WDS on or off have any effect on the handling of data? Greg On Apr 12, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Cameron Kilton wrote: Are the Access point and the Station set to WDS. Ubnt recommends this for the units to be a full transparent bridge. We had a similar issue and this fixed it for us. -Cameron Thanks, Cameron Kilton Project Manager Midcoast Internet Solutions http://www.midcoast.com c...@midcoast.com (207) 594-8277 x 108 On 4/1/2010 11:47 PM, RickG wrote: I had a similar situation recently that I never figured out. WRAP/StarOS on a tower and for some reason the CM9 radio card would no longer connect to the source for backhaul. So, I added a BM5 in bridge mode to the ethernet port. All the clients on the StarOS/WRAP worked great but I could no longer see them from the core side of the network. I tried everything before giving up and putting a BM2 on the top of the tower. Working really well now but I'd love to know why it didnt work. -RickG On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Data Technologyw...@dtisp.com wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
I had a similar situation recently that I never figured out. WRAP/StarOS on a tower and for some reason the CM9 radio card would no longer connect to the source for backhaul. So, I added a BM5 in bridge mode to the ethernet port. All the clients on the StarOS/WRAP worked great but I could no longer see them from the core side of the network. I tried everything before giving up and putting a BM2 on the top of the tower. Working really well now but I'd love to know why it didnt work. -RickG On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Data Technology w...@dtisp.com wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] ubnt bridging
I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
Change both the Ap CPE (Ubiquity) from reguar to WDS mode... (WDS is the transparent bridge mode on these units). Faisal. On 3/31/2010 3:14 PM, Data Technology wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
The AP is MT but I don't think that is a problem. MT and UBNT wds work together best I remember. What is the down side to using WDS on the AP? Will the other users on the AP have any performance issues due to using WDS? LaRoy McCann Data Technology Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Change both the Ap CPE (Ubiquity) from reguar to WDS mode... (WDS is the transparent bridge mode on these units). Faisal. On 3/31/2010 3:14 PM, Data Technology wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
Is the subnet outside the scope of the ip range the bullet is on? In other words is the bullet on a /24 for example and does the subnet fall within that /24? Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Data Technology wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
If one end is WDS AP and the other end (the bullet) is WDS Station then there won't be any issues. If you set the bullet to WDS AP as well then you'll half your throughput. Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Data Technology wrote: The AP is MT but I don't think that is a problem. MT and UBNT wds work together best I remember. What is the down side to using WDS on the AP? Will the other users on the AP have any performance issues due to using WDS? LaRoy McCann Data Technology Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Change both the Ap CPE (Ubiquity) from reguar to WDS mode... (WDS is the transparent bridge mode on these units). Faisal. On 3/31/2010 3:14 PM, Data Technology wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
Completely different subnets. AP x.x.x.65/26 (64-127) Bridged Bullet x.x.x.126/26 Local MT x.x.x.125/26 Trying to route x.x.x.192/28 (192-207) from AP to Local MT x.x.x.125 LaRoy McCann Data Technology Greg Ihnen wrote: Is the subnet outside the scope of the ip range the bullet is on? In other words is the bullet on a /24 for example and does the subnet fall within that /24? Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Data Technology wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
That does not matter, the Bullet is in bridge mode. Regards Michael Baird Is the subnet outside the scope of the ip range the bullet is on? In other words is the bullet on a /24 for example and does the subnet fall within that /24? Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Data Technology wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
Shouldn't matter bridged, I've got different networks running through bridged bullets and not in WDS. -- Original Message -- From: Data Technology w...@dtisp.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:09:57 -0500 Completely different subnets. AP x.x.x.65/26 (64-127) Bridged Bullet x.x.x.126/26 Local MT x.x.x.125/26 Trying to route x.x.x.192/28 (192-207) from AP to Local MT x.x.x.125 LaRoy McCann Data Technology Greg Ihnen wrote: Is the subnet outside the scope of the ip range the bullet is on? In other words is the bullet on a /24 for example and does the subnet fall within that /24? Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Data Technology wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
Yeah, that brings back bad memories. I did that once(wds ap mode) and had nothing but problems. I will try the wds station mode and see how that works. LaRoy McCann Data Technology Greg Ihnen wrote: If one end is WDS AP and the other end (the bullet) is WDS Station then there won't be any issues. If you set the bullet to WDS AP as well then you'll half your throughput. Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Data Technology wrote: The AP is MT but I don't think that is a problem. MT and UBNT wds work together best I remember. What is the down side to using WDS on the AP? Will the other users on the AP have any performance issues due to using WDS? LaRoy McCann Data Technology Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Change both the Ap CPE (Ubiquity) from reguar to WDS mode... (WDS is the transparent bridge mode on these units). Faisal. On 3/31/2010 3:14 PM, Data Technology wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
One thing I have noticed is that when I ping the local MT box (x.x.x.125) ip from the AP I get a reply and I also see icmp traffic on the local MT with torch. If I ping the ip of the subnet that I am trying to route to the local MT box (x.x.x.194) I get several reply's back from x.x.x.126 which is the bullet and I get no traffic on the local MT box. Also, I do have a port on the local MT box configured with an ip (x.x.x.194) of the subnet that I am trying to route. It looks like the bullet is passing it's local subnet traffic. Any other traffic not on it's local subnet it is trying to reply to instead of bridging it. I don't see any option on the bullet to enable / disable proxy-arp. I know sometimes I need proxy-arp on my AP's to make things work. LaRoy McCann Data Technology Stuart Pierce wrote: Shouldn't matter bridged, I've got different networks running through bridged bullets and not in WDS. -- Original Message -- From: Data Technology w...@dtisp.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:09:57 -0500 Completely different subnets. AP x.x.x.65/26 (64-127) Bridged Bullet x.x.x.126/26 Local MT x.x.x.125/26 Trying to route x.x.x.192/28 (192-207) from AP to Local MT x.x.x.125 LaRoy McCann Data Technology Greg Ihnen wrote: Is the subnet outside the scope of the ip range the bullet is on? In other words is the bullet on a /24 for example and does the subnet fall within that /24? Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Data Technology wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging -- solved
Well, I set the AP to use WDS and the bullet to station wds and now everything works ok. LaRoy McCann Data Technology Data Technology wrote: One thing I have noticed is that when I ping the local MT box (x.x.x.125) ip from the AP I get a reply and I also see icmp traffic on the local MT with torch. If I ping the ip of the subnet that I am trying to route to the local MT box (x.x.x.194) I get several reply's back from x.x.x.126 which is the bullet and I get no traffic on the local MT box. Also, I do have a port on the local MT box configured with an ip (x.x.x.194) of the subnet that I am trying to route. It looks like the bullet is passing it's local subnet traffic. Any other traffic not on it's local subnet it is trying to reply to instead of bridging it. I don't see any option on the bullet to enable / disable proxy-arp. I know sometimes I need proxy-arp on my AP's to make things work. LaRoy McCann Data Technology Stuart Pierce wrote: Shouldn't matter bridged, I've got different networks running through bridged bullets and not in WDS. -- Original Message -- From: Data Technology w...@dtisp.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:09:57 -0500 Completely different subnets. AP x.x.x.65/26 (64-127) Bridged Bullet x.x.x.126/26 Local MT x.x.x.125/26 Trying to route x.x.x.192/28 (192-207) from AP to Local MT x.x.x.125 LaRoy McCann Data Technology Greg Ihnen wrote: Is the subnet outside the scope of the ip range the bullet is on? In other words is the bullet on a /24 for example and does the subnet fall within that /24? Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Data Technology wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/