[WISPA] Users email to support 5.7 band

2014-08-05 Thread Marco Coelho 
This is the e-mail we sent to ALL of our users to help support the 5.7 band:
Please send something similar to your users.

Dear argontech.net user,


*END OF RURAL HIGH SPEED INTERNET POSSIBLE*

The FCC has approved a change to the system requirements for the 5.7 GHz
Microwave Radio Bands that we and most other wireless internet service
providers utilize.  Within two years these changes will decimate rural
wireless broadband and your internet service.  Either service will have to
discontinue, or monthly service costs will be greatly increased.  We
presently have a petition to the FCC to change the rules so that we can
continue to use these bands to provide you service.

We strongly urge you to follow the link below and tell the FCC how
important rural broadband is to you.  Please *forward this link to everyone
in your address book* so that we may pass the message and save your
service.  Under ISP tell them you're with:

*argontech.net *

http://www.wispa.org/save-rural-broadband-and-unlicensed-wireless-call-to-action

Thank you for your support and help.

Marco Coelho

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Re: [WISPA] users...

2011-02-20 Thread Chuck Hogg 
Well, we sell 3Mbit burst to 5 at the max, however when you have 10-15
people per Canopy AP trying to stream, it get's maxed out.  So the options
are; 1) upgrade to another technology, again.  2) build out fiber with the
funds generated by the wireless. 3) wait for the telco or cable company to
finally build out using USF and loose all of my customers.

If we beat them to the punch, we've determined that we can build out fiber
for a little less than 10k per mile using aerial.  In most of our areas that
means 15-20 homes per mile.  That's at a cost of $1,000 per home + End User
equipment/buildout.  Our estimate is at about $600 per end user.  I will be
able to get poles put in for $800 per pole, and $800 for the electric drop.
 I can put up UBNT RocketM5's to do the users that it just doesn't make
sense for a fiber build out, and our thought is that we'll do 1 of these
every 2nd mile.  Our rough guess is $1600 per user one time, no more tower
fees, and no more continually upgrading costs.  Our current cost per user is
roughly $375-400, including labor/antennas/SM/cable/gas/etc.  On top of that
we have our tower rent which ends up being roughly 7-10% of the customer's
monthly fees.  We have averaged about 3 yrs before upgrading to better
technology, costing another $375-400.  On top of that keeping up with all of
the wireless backhauls, upgrading, licensing, etc.

Don't get me wrong, fiber is not cheap.  However, I see it that the customer
where there is a remote possibility that DSL/Cable can be built out, it will
over time.  I believe that the fiber investment is more than a 10yr
investment, probably 20-30 yrs.  I'm going to require everyone that gets the
service also get a home phone.  It's going to be built into their fee, get
it or don't the fee is the same.  I think I'm going to be somewhere around
$50 for 10mbit + phone and go to $60 for 20mbit, $70 for 30mbit, $100 for
50mbit.  Cogent is almost done building out here, so my cost per Mbit is
roughly $2.50/mbit at 1GBit.

It's a big upfront investment, for a long term future.  Hopefully we'll get
to the point where we will do IPTV as well.

These are all thoughts and plans that we're going to be doing a test
deployment with this spring/summer.  None of the above is finite, and I'm
sure lots of it will change.

Regards,
Chuck


On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Chuck Profito wrote:

> Chuck, do you mean to a heavy user or another tower?
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 19, 2011 5:43 PM
> *To:* wil...@optimumwireless.com; WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] users...
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> We've basically gotten to the point that in some areas on our network, 6
> canopy AP's still isn't enough.  We're going to do a fiber trial in one
> short half mile shot, get our feet wet, then we've already planned an
> additional 6-7 miles if everything works out.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Chuck
>
> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Optimum Wireless Services <
> wil...@optimumwireless.com> wrote:
>
> I'm on the same boat. I added more bandwidth to my network and my users
> still saturate it.
>
> I'm doing traffic shapping and still.
>
>
>
> On Sat, 2011-02-19 at 02:42 -0500, Blair Davis wrote:
> > a fun little note...
> >
> > three weeks ago, I doubled my networks available bandwidth...
> >
> > tonight, at 10:05PM EDT, those $#%@ users managed to saturate it again!
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Re: [WISPA] users...

2011-02-20 Thread Chuck Profito 
Chuck, do you mean to a heavy user or another tower?

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 5:43 PM
To: wil...@optimumwireless.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] users...

 

We've basically gotten to the point that in some areas on our network, 6
canopy AP's still isn't enough.  We're going to do a fiber trial in one
short half mile shot, get our feet wet, then we've already planned an
additional 6-7 miles if everything works out.


Regards,

Chuck



On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Optimum Wireless Services
 wrote:

I'm on the same boat. I added more bandwidth to my network and my users
still saturate it.

I'm doing traffic shapping and still.



On Sat, 2011-02-19 at 02:42 -0500, Blair Davis wrote:
> a fun little note...
>
> three weeks ago, I doubled my networks available bandwidth...
>
> tonight, at 10:05PM EDT, those $#%@ users managed to saturate it again!
>
>
> Grrr
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] users...

2011-02-19 Thread Chuck Hogg 
We've basically gotten to the point that in some areas on our network, 6
canopy AP's still isn't enough.  We're going to do a fiber trial in one
short half mile shot, get our feet wet, then we've already planned an
additional 6-7 miles if everything works out.

Regards,

Chuck


On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Optimum Wireless Services <
wil...@optimumwireless.com> wrote:

> I'm on the same boat. I added more bandwidth to my network and my users
> still saturate it.
>
> I'm doing traffic shapping and still.
>
>
> On Sat, 2011-02-19 at 02:42 -0500, Blair Davis wrote:
> > a fun little note...
> >
> > three weeks ago, I doubled my networks available bandwidth...
> >
> > tonight, at 10:05PM EDT, those $#%@ users managed to saturate it again!
> >
> >
> > Grrr
> >
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Re: [WISPA] users...

2011-02-19 Thread Optimum Wireless Services 
I'm on the same boat. I added more bandwidth to my network and my users
still saturate it.

I'm doing traffic shapping and still.


On Sat, 2011-02-19 at 02:42 -0500, Blair Davis wrote:
> a fun little note...
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> three weeks ago, I doubled my networks available bandwidth...
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> tonight, at 10:05PM EDT, those $#%@ users managed to saturate it again!
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> Grrr
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Re: [WISPA] users...

2011-02-19 Thread RickG 
It's true. The good news is that the more you buy the cheaper it is per meg!

On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Jeromie Reeves  wrote:
> How much bandwidth is that exactly? I have found that if I have it,
> they will use it.
>
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Blair Davis  wrote:
>> a fun little note...
>>
>> three weeks ago, I doubled my networks available bandwidth...
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>> tonight, at 10:05PM EDT, those $#%@ users managed to saturate it again!
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>> Grrr
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Re: [WISPA] users...

2011-02-19 Thread Jeromie Reeves 
How much bandwidth is that exactly? I have found that if I have it,
they will use it.

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Blair Davis  wrote:
> a fun little note...
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> three weeks ago, I doubled my networks available bandwidth...
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> Grrr
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[WISPA] users...

2011-02-18 Thread Blair Davis 
a fun little note...

three weeks ago, I doubled my networks available bandwidth...

tonight, at 10:05PM EDT, those $#%@ users managed to saturate it again!


Grrr



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Re: [WISPA] Users Still Cling to Dialup

2008-07-05 Thread Jonathan Schmidt 
My suspicion had been that the wrong question was asked in the survey.

A survey that was richer in probes a couple of years ago placed "Always
on" at the top of the list of "broadband" benefits.

Some sub-questions revolved around the convenience of not blocking the
phone but the very top of the lise was the fact that when any question
popped into your mind, the PC was immediately ready to answer.  One
example was the phone directory; with dial-up, it takes longer to go
through the dial-up process than looking it up in the phone book but with
always-on broadband, the PC is clearly much faster and gives a richer span
of options. 

Going through the buzz-saw noises and minute of sign-on is a put-off for
all but regular uses (like checking e-mail...which always-on users often
do several times a day and this survey reported that dial-up users did it
several times a week).

Yet, you're right...John McCain said he didn't know how to use a computer
last week and the ex-president of AT&T (until last year) said he didn't
either and found e-mail intrusive and useless.  I bet they live in big,
expensive homes.  Maybe that's the key;  I'll just get rid of my computers
and "puff", the magic cloud will transform my house into a mansion.

. . . J o n a t h a n

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Users Still Cling to Dialup

My experience selling broadband to rural dialup customers mirrors this.

I've found that in areas where I am the SOLE option, I get about 30 to 50%
take rates.  I get about 75% of the 'net user.  However, about 25% or so,
of those who use internet will remain on dialup and will not pay $10 more
per 
month to get off it.   I am unable to determine if the money is really the

issue, or if they just don't care, becuase interent is so unimportant to 
them.   The rest... generally do not have computers.  I have approached 
people in half million dollar custom new homes, and they tell me they
don't have a computer.

I offer a $25/mo service level and about 10% of my customers use it.   I 
call it a dialup replacement @ roughly 300kb/sec (faster than the 256k dsl
that used to offered here), yet nobody has wanted it for roughly 2 years. 
Some are starting to ask for higher than 2M levels and would pay up to 50
or 60 / mo for it.





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Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 3:50 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Users Still Cling to Dialup


> FYI
> Interesting,
>
> http://www.dailytech.com/Users+Still+Cling+to+Dialup/article12283.htm
>
> http://www.newser.com/article/D91M6BCO1.html
>
> Small quote from that
>
> "The survey does illustrate a concern that some Americans want broadband

> but can't get it, denying them opportunities to work online or take 
> classes online.  Of the rural Americans on dialup, 24 percent said they 
> would upgrade if it was available in their area, whereas only 11 percent

> of suburban users in areas of non-availability and 3 percent of urban 
> users would upgrade."
>
> Regards
>
> Stephen Patrick
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Re: [WISPA] Users Still Cling to Dialup

2008-07-05 Thread reader 
My experience selling broadband to rural dialup customers mirrors this.

I've found that in areas where I am the SOLE option, I get about 30 to 50% 
take rates.  I get about 75% of the 'net user.  However, about 25% or so, of 
those who use internet will remain on dialup and will not pay $10 more per 
month to get off it.   I am unable to determine if the money is really the 
issue, or if they just don't care, becuase interent is so unimportant to 
them.   The rest... generally do not have computers.  I have approached 
people in half million dollar custom new homes, and they tell me they don't 
have a computer.

I offer a $25/mo service level and about 10% of my customers use it.   I 
call it a dialup replacement @ roughly 300kb/sec (faster than the 256k dsl 
that used to offered here), yet nobody has wanted it for roughly 2 years. 
Some are starting to ask for higher than 2M levels and would pay up to 50 or 
60 / mo for it.





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Subject: [WISPA] Users Still Cling to Dialup


> FYI
> Interesting,
>
> http://www.dailytech.com/Users+Still+Cling+to+Dialup/article12283.htm
>
> http://www.newser.com/article/D91M6BCO1.html
>
> Small quote from that
>
> "The survey does illustrate a concern that some Americans want broadband 
> but can't get it, denying them opportunities to work online or take 
> classes online.  Of the rural Americans on dialup, 24 percent said they 
> would upgrade if it was available in their area, whereas only 11 percent 
> of suburban users in areas of non-availability and 3 percent of urban 
> users would upgrade."
>
> Regards
>
> Stephen Patrick
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Re: [WISPA] Users Still Cling to Dialup

2008-07-04 Thread Frank Muto 
A repost from yesterday.

You can download the Pew Report here;
http://www.pewinternet.org/pdfs/PIP_Broadband_2008.pdf



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From: "Stephen Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 6:50 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Users Still Cling to Dialup


> FYI
> Interesting,
>
> http://www.dailytech.com/Users+Still+Cling+to+Dialup/article12283.htm
>
> http://www.newser.com/article/D91M6BCO1.html
>
> Small quote from that
>
> "The survey does illustrate a concern that some Americans want broadband but 
> can't get it, denying them opportunities to 
> work online or take classes online.  Of the rural Americans on dialup, 24 
> percent said they would upgrade if it was 
> available in their area, whereas only 11 percent of suburban users in areas 
> of non-availability and 3 percent of urban 
> users would upgrade."
>
> Regards
>
> Stephen Patrick
> ==
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> Holly House, St. Clare Business Park, 22 Holly Road,
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[WISPA] Users Still Cling to Dialup

2008-07-04 Thread Stephen Patrick 
FYI
Interesting,

http://www.dailytech.com/Users+Still+Cling+to+Dialup/article12283.htm

http://www.newser.com/article/D91M6BCO1.html

Small quote from that

"The survey does illustrate a concern that some Americans want broadband but 
can't get it, denying them opportunities to work online or take classes online. 
 Of the rural Americans on dialup, 24 percent said they would upgrade if it was 
available in their area, whereas only 11 percent of suburban users in areas of 
non-availability and 3 percent of urban users would upgrade."

Regards

Stephen Patrick
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