George, this is a child's game. The market is the arbiter of who and
what is successful and our macro success is there for all to read via
any of the market reports about this space since there were reports. And
as a public company, our financials are there for all the study.

Now, that said, has Alvarion been on the forefront of product innovation
for the small WISP? No, not by a long shot. Is that supposed to be some
secret? Since 2000'ish our development in UL has been aimed at the
premium WISPs and other top UL operators. We are the product many a
funded or professional WISP starts with. We are the gear some grow in
to. My work of late has been to try to bring this premium product within
the realm of most WISPs, thus the AlvarionCOMNET program.

When I began my WISP advocacy, there was no small WISP, large WISP, ILEC
WISP, utility WISP or muni WISP. There was no Trango (Sunstream had not
even launched), there was no Canopy (the technology had been created in
the early 90's but the exec engineer that created it did not yet have
the internal power to market it), there was no Tranzeo, SmartBridges,
etc. All WISPs were small WISPs and we were dominant, maybe only because
we paid attention to the market before any professional company and
built for it. We did see the stratification coming though (our "vision"
has always been excellent, better than our execution some times), and as
was more our technological, corporate and customer character, we aimed
for the premium and hit that and then some. Motorola aimed for the
center; and with the simplicity and the power of their brand, they hit
that and then some. Tranzeo and SmartBridges aimed at smaller WISPs and
those with less access to funds. They hit that. 

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 8:57 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules arenow simplyabout
being"stickerconscious" or not??

Aw come on now.

Thats  was just a not well thought out hip shot slur.

Fact was you just said Tranzeo you admired. They were innovative. Been 
there for 5 years now. I used them when you were selling FHSS as the 
ultimate 2.4 solution.

Here is you chance, list your companies innovations by chronological 
order starting the day you took the evangelist job up until now, and I 
will demonstrate to you, how the big manufacturers hold us up.

Again, not a rub against Alvarion, I truly respect your company, but, I 
want to make a point here.

George


Patrick Leary wrote:
> George, ones person's "innovation" is something that might another
> person nothing but migraines. If you think you getting cutting edge
> innovation and state of the art technology from the uncertified
> manufacturers I don't know what to tell you except your technology
> exposure may be a bit narrow.
> 
> Patrick Leary
> AVP WISP Markets
> Alvarion, Inc.
> o: 650.314.2628
> c: 760.580.0080
> Vonage: 650.641.1243
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of George Rogato
> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 5:55 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules are now simplyabout
> being"stickerconscious" or not??
> 
> Ho ho ho Patrick,
> 
> So, to add to the list of reasons why a lot of wisps use uncertified
> gear.
> 
> One reason that was exposed, was that manufacturers were not keeping
up 
> with technology fast enough and the kit systems offered newer
technology
> 
> and allowed a wisp to be more "innovative"
> 
> What say you Mr. Leary?
> Has Alvarion been keeping up fast enough?
> 
> 
> George
> 
> (oh yeah, I also think there was a lot of crap slung as cpe's)
> 
> 
> Patrick Leary wrote:
> 
>>Mac,
>>
>>That's good news that some previously illegal gear is now undergoing
> 
> FCC
> 
>>certification. It is good for everyone, regardless of what finally led
>>them to earn it. As WISPs, you should use that cert as a minimum
> 
> litmus
> 
>>test, because it will tell you much more than just the cert itself; it
>>tells you that the vendor actual is concerned about YOUR business, not
>>just the money that can made off you. You should say to any illegal
>>vendor that you might use, "You know, I like your features and price,
>>but before I undertake any more study about the possibility of buying
>>your gear you need have your system FCC certified." Do that and those
>>guys will change their habits in a hurry.
>>
>>Patrick Leary
>>AVP WISP Markets
>>Alvarion, Inc.
>>o: 650.314.2628
>>c: 760.580.0080
>>Vonage: 650.641.1243
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> On
> 
>>Behalf Of Mac Dearman
>>Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:17 AM
>>To: 'WISPA General List'
>>Subject: RE: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules are now simply about
>>being"stickerconscious" or not??
>>
>>Hold your Horses there Sir Patrick! There was one comment that used
> 
> that
> 
>>in
>>their post - I don't think that "we" as an industry have evolved to
> 
> that
> 
>>level of degradation in dealing with the laws of the land & air. There
>>will
>>always be renegades in every avenue of life, but "we" are not in that
>>classification :-) and given a little time we will be someone to be
>>reckoned
>>with as the industry leader in wireless across this country.
>>
>> I must admit that I have learned a few things in the past week - or
> 
> had
> 
>>some things clarified that were quite an awakening for me and a few
>>others.
>>I (for one) will not deploy even one more piece of hardware that is
> 
> not
> 
>>FCC
>>certified. I have in the last year deployed many unlicensed access
>>points &
>>back haul radios though. I made a terrible mistake in doing that, but
> 
> I
> 
>>was
>>under a false impression of what was "legal." The path we will follow
>>from
>>this point on is what is really going to count.
>>
>> I do happen to know of two manufacturers who have gear at FCC
>>certification
>>labs today undergoing their certifications for some specific pieces of
>>their
>>gear. This is something that should have taken place a couple years
> 
> ago,
> 
>>but
>>now is better than never. I realize that is not going to affect the
> 
> gear
> 
>>I
>>have in the air today from these guys as it can not be certified -
> 
> ever
> 
>>-
>>even if they happen to get the exact gear certified that I have on
>>towers
>>today.
>>
>>I think this last visit WISPA members (Thanks men) made to the FCC
>>clarified
>>several things that needed clarification:
>>
>>1. FILLOUT THOSE FORMS!
>>   The FCC is not out to get us. They need the data that only we can
>>supply
>>them - like who we are, where we are (zip code), how many subs...Etc
>>
>>This is their way of helping us. With out this data they can only
> 
> guess
> 
>>how
>>many "we" are, how many we serve and the actual coverage area total.
>>Guys -
>>y'all please fill out the form 477 - - it's a good thing for us all.
>>
>>2. WE ARE NOT LEGAL EVEN IF WE ARE NOT OVER POWERED OR OUT OF BAND.
>>    I am not going into any details here because that is stated just
> 
> as
> 
>>simple as it can get.
>>   
>>Sincerely,
>>Mac Dearman
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> On
> 
>>Behalf Of Patrick Leary
>>Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:33 AM
>>To: WISPA General List
>>Subject: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules are now simply about being
>>"stickerconscious" or not??
>>
>>"Sticker conscious?" So this is what we've become as an industry?
>>Following the very clear laws, which were once again just reiterated
> 
> to
> 
>>us after another in a long chain of WISP visits, or not has now been
>>reduced to simply being "sticker conscious" or "not sticker
> 
> conscious"?
> 
>>Why not go further and call yourself "Illegal and proud" or just "I
>>don't give a ____"? Let's not have any more "gee, I can't afford to be
>>legal!" That's not an argument that is credible today, with the range
>>from legal cheap to premium CPE running from about $170 to sub-$300 --
>>that's cheap. 
>>
>>My God, 5.4 is going to be a massive mess. OET will have to install a
>>special phone line just to handle the incoming DoD complaint calls.
>>
>>Patrick Leary
>>AVP WISP Markets
>>Alvarion, Inc.
>>o: 650.314.2628
>>c: 760.580.0080
>>Vonage: 650.641.1243
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> On
> 
>>Behalf Of Sam Tetherow
>>Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 9:37 PM
>>To: WISPA General List
>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] cost effective reliable 5.8G cpe suggestions?
>>
>>RB112+CM9+Rootenna if you are not sticker conscious.
>>If you are sticker conscious I use the Tranzeo TR5a-24/20 with MT/CM9 
>>setups and they work great.
>>
>>    Sam Tetherow
>>    Sandhills Wireless
>>
>>rabbtux rabbtux wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Not to stir the "fcc sticker" debate, but what gear is out there
today
>>>that is compatable with a MT/SR5 access point?   Looking for lower
>>>cost CPEs for 1-5 mile deployments.
>>>Thanks
>>
>>
> 

-- 
George Rogato

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