RE: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-04 Thread JNA
Yes. I got a price sheet and I just onced it over and it looks like the
broadcast unit is 10K alone.

John

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 Hrm.  Designed to mount ON the cable at the street and point toward the
 homes ?
 
 Interesting, but futile in the wind...
 
 Isn't it more expensive than a coax run to the home ?  LOL.
 
 Hey Cable companies, buy these things and put 'em everywhere
 
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 Now THAT's cool!
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RE: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread Smith, Rick
Hrm.  Designed to mount ON the cable at the street and point toward the
homes ?

Interesting, but futile in the wind...

Isn't it more expensive than a coax run to the home ?  LOL.

Hey Cable companies, buy these things and put 'em everywhere

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Now THAT's cool!
marlon

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Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread George Rogato
I didn't buy that one, but I did buy a 100 meg fd Plaintree FSO link a 
couple weeks ago. Should be here any day now.


From what I understand, most FSO has very little tolerance. Things like 
vibration can interrupt the links connectivity. Although Plaintree 
specifically said it did not effect their system.


Smith, Rick wrote:

Hrm.  Designed to mount ON the cable at the street and point toward the
homes ?

Interesting, but futile in the wind...

Isn't it more expensive than a coax run to the home ?  LOL.

Hey Cable companies, buy these things and put 'em everywhere

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Now THAT's cool!
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Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread Tom DeReggi
Take note the beamwidth of that FSO device is 30 degrees. (And distance 350 
feet).

At 30 degress, it will compete with any wireless device.

Correction: Nifty tool for any Internet Provider needing to make a high 
capacity connection 250 feet away.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
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I didn't buy that one, but I did buy a 100 meg fd Plaintree FSO link a 
couple weeks ago. Should be here any day now.


From what I understand, most FSO has very little tolerance. Things like 
vibration can interrupt the links connectivity. Although Plaintree 
specifically said it did not effect their system.


Smith, Rick wrote:

Hrm.  Designed to mount ON the cable at the street and point toward the
homes ?

Interesting, but futile in the wind...

Isn't it more expensive than a coax run to the home ?  LOL.

Hey Cable companies, buy these things and put 'em everywhere

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Now THAT's cool!
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RE: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread Smith, Rick

Anyone know how much $$$ ?  I've got an application for it, actually. 

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Take note the beamwidth of that FSO device is 30 degrees. (And distance
350 feet).
At 30 degress, it will compete with any wireless device.

Correction: Nifty tool for any Internet Provider needing to make a high
capacity connection 250 feet away.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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I didn't buy that one, but I did buy a 100 meg fd Plaintree FSO link a 
couple weeks ago. Should be here any day now.

 From what I understand, most FSO has very little tolerance. Things
like 
 vibration can interrupt the links connectivity. Although Plaintree 
 specifically said it did not effect their system.

 Smith, Rick wrote:
 Hrm.  Designed to mount ON the cable at the street and point toward
the
 homes ?

 Interesting, but futile in the wind...

 Isn't it more expensive than a coax run to the home ?  LOL.

 Hey Cable companies, buy these things and put 'em everywhere

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On
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 Now THAT's cool!
 marlon

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Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread Zack Kneisley

These guys know their stuff when it comes to FSO

http://www.cablefreesolutions.com/products_serviceprovider.htm

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Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread Dawn DiPietro

George,

I am under the impression there is an FSO solution out there that has an 
auto align mechanism that overcomes the sway associated with cable and 
tower mounts. I would be interested to know if this is how Plaintree 
deals with this issue.


Regards,
Dawn DiPietro

George Rogato wrote:
I didn't buy that one, but I did buy a 100 meg fd Plaintree FSO link a 
couple weeks ago. Should be here any day now.


From what I understand, most FSO has very little tolerance. Things 
like vibration can interrupt the links connectivity. Although 
Plaintree specifically said it did not effect their system.


Smith, Rick wrote:

Hrm.  Designed to mount ON the cable at the street and point toward the
homes ?

Interesting, but futile in the wind...

Isn't it more expensive than a coax run to the home ?  LOL.

Hey Cable companies, buy these things and put 'em everywhere

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Now THAT's cool!
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RE: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread Stephen Patrick
Zack, you flatter us!

Seriously, answering a few questions that were voiced
- 30degrees is very wide for FSO - the link budgets for 350feet (~100m)
would normally entail a narrower beam.
- I don't believe Plaintree use automatic tracking, but they could speak for
themselves of course
- Automatic tracking is needed for narrow beam (~1mRad) systems because
buildings move more than that.

Without trying to make a commercial pitch, our co. does both fixed wide-beam
and tracked systems for a variety of applications.
Have a look here if you want to see a demonstrator of an aerospace solution
for mobile platforms:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4945168689485668209pr=goog-sl
It has full 360degree mobile tracking and in the demo is doing 1.25Gbps
Gigabit Ethernet on/off the vehicle.

For the cableco application, that's interesting, and we do have very low
cost, stable widebeam systems that can be used exactly for that.

Best regards

Stephen

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These guys know their stuff when it comes to FSO

http://www.cablefreesolutions.com/products_serviceprovider.htm

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RE: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread Brad Belton
Very cool video Stephen!

Best,


Brad


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Zack, you flatter us!

Seriously, answering a few questions that were voiced
- 30degrees is very wide for FSO - the link budgets for 350feet (~100m)
would normally entail a narrower beam.
- I don't believe Plaintree use automatic tracking, but they could speak for
themselves of course
- Automatic tracking is needed for narrow beam (~1mRad) systems because
buildings move more than that.

Without trying to make a commercial pitch, our co. does both fixed wide-beam
and tracked systems for a variety of applications.
Have a look here if you want to see a demonstrator of an aerospace solution
for mobile platforms:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4945168689485668209pr=goog-sl
It has full 360degree mobile tracking and in the demo is doing 1.25Gbps
Gigabit Ethernet on/off the vehicle.

For the cableco application, that's interesting, and we do have very low
cost, stable widebeam systems that can be used exactly for that.

Best regards

Stephen

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Sent: 02 May 2007 16:05
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

These guys know their stuff when it comes to FSO

http://www.cablefreesolutions.com/products_serviceprovider.htm

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RE: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread Brad Belton
BTW, how is the 80GHz system coming along?  Any information you can share
yet?

Best,


Brad


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Zack, you flatter us!

Seriously, answering a few questions that were voiced
- 30degrees is very wide for FSO - the link budgets for 350feet (~100m)
would normally entail a narrower beam.
- I don't believe Plaintree use automatic tracking, but they could speak for
themselves of course
- Automatic tracking is needed for narrow beam (~1mRad) systems because
buildings move more than that.

Without trying to make a commercial pitch, our co. does both fixed wide-beam
and tracked systems for a variety of applications.
Have a look here if you want to see a demonstrator of an aerospace solution
for mobile platforms:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4945168689485668209pr=goog-sl
It has full 360degree mobile tracking and in the demo is doing 1.25Gbps
Gigabit Ethernet on/off the vehicle.

For the cableco application, that's interesting, and we do have very low
cost, stable widebeam systems that can be used exactly for that.

Best regards

Stephen

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These guys know their stuff when it comes to FSO

http://www.cablefreesolutions.com/products_serviceprovider.htm

Zack
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RE: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread Stephen Patrick
Hi Brad,

Quick answer is Shipping ... 
And legal/FCC certified as well as UK OFCOM approved .. And we have
reference installations too.
The model we recommend is 70GHz and there are 100Mbps and Gigabit Ethernet
versions, and 30 and 60cm antenna options
Interface fibre LC with MM and SM options.
Any info you need, glad to send.

Best regards

Stephen 

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BTW, how is the 80GHz system coming along?  Any information you can share
yet?

Best,


Brad


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Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:56 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

Zack, you flatter us!

Seriously, answering a few questions that were voiced
- 30degrees is very wide for FSO - the link budgets for 350feet (~100m)
would normally entail a narrower beam.
- I don't believe Plaintree use automatic tracking, but they could speak for
themselves of course
- Automatic tracking is needed for narrow beam (~1mRad) systems because
buildings move more than that.

Without trying to make a commercial pitch, our co. does both fixed wide-beam
and tracked systems for a variety of applications.
Have a look here if you want to see a demonstrator of an aerospace solution
for mobile platforms:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4945168689485668209pr=goog-sl
It has full 360degree mobile tracking and in the demo is doing 1.25Gbps
Gigabit Ethernet on/off the vehicle.

For the cableco application, that's interesting, and we do have very low
cost, stable widebeam systems that can be used exactly for that.

Best regards

Stephen

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Sent: 02 May 2007 16:05
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

These guys know their stuff when it comes to FSO

http://www.cablefreesolutions.com/products_serviceprovider.htm

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Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181


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Hrm.  Designed to mount ON the cable at the street and point toward the
homes ?

Interesting, but futile in the wind...

mks:  Did you see the 20 to 30* vertical pattern?  Those units are kinda 
heavy, it'll take a pretty strong wind to cause a 20* swing.  I'm sure it'll 
happen from time to time, but not likely for days on end.  Probably 
fractions of a second.


Isn't it more expensive than a coax run to the home ?  LOL.

mks:  Sure.  Unless you have to try to get a permit to cross a road, river, 
train track etc.


Hey Cable companies, buy these things and put 'em everywhere

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Now THAT's cool!
marlon

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Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread George Rogato



Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

mks:  Sure.  Unless you have to try to get a permit to cross a road, 
river, train track etc.



Bingo
I would like to have a 100megs fd and there is only two ways, fiber or 
optical. I prefer fiber, but it's not so simple and needs a bit of work 
to get the fiber done right.


So this was a simple $5k solution to go across the street. 100 meg FD 
internet feed is a handy thing to have in a small rural town like here.


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