RE: [WISPA] NextLink in Phoenix

2007-03-20 Thread Rick Smith
what hardware ?

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Subject: [WISPA] NextLink in Phoenix

XO Communications today launched broadband wireless services in Phoenix, 
bringing its NextLink wireless footprint to 10 major cities. XO will 
initially deploy in downtown Phoenix but plans its base station sites to 
cover the entire Phoenix metropolitan area including Paradise Valley, 
Scottsdale and Tempe.

XO has Local Multipoint Distribution System licenses in 75 markets-all 
left over from when the former NextLink tried to build a nationwide 
first generation broadband wireless access system for businesses. Like 
all of the initial BWA systems, the NextLink network never got off the 
ground, and when the company changed its name to XO it shelved the 
licenses, only to revive them again last year as an alternative to fiber 
and copper access in its markets.

XO has now launched wireless service in Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas, 
Houston, Los Angeles, Miami, San Diego, Tampa and Washington, D.C.

(They don't know where service is available, but it's launched :)

Peter

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Re: [WISPA] NextLink in Phoenix

2007-03-20 Thread Peter R.


Hughes Network Systems is a strategic Nextlink partner, providing its 
LMDS AIReach AB9400 system in both point-to-point and 
point-to-multipoint modes to support Nextlink's high-speed Internet 
access and Ethernet services.



Peter R. wrote:

XO Communications today launched broadband wireless services in 
Phoenix, bringing its NextLink wireless footprint to 10 major cities. 
XO will initially deploy in downtown Phoenix but plans its base 
station sites to cover the entire Phoenix metropolitan area including 
Paradise Valley, Scottsdale and Tempe.


XO has Local Multipoint Distribution System licenses in 75 markets—all 
left over from when the former NextLink tried to build a nationwide 
first generation broadband wireless access system for businesses. Like 
all of the initial BWA systems, the NextLink network never got off the 
ground, and when the company changed its name to XO it shelved the 
licenses, only to revive them again last year as an alternative to 
fiber and copper access in its markets.


XO has now launched wireless service in Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas, 
Houston, Los Angeles, Miami, San Diego, Tampa and Washington, D.C.


(They don't know where service is available, but it's launched :)

Peter



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Re: [WISPA] NextLink in Phoenix

2007-03-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
Nothing new. XO has had an active Wireless Broadband division for the last 
few years.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Subject: [WISPA] NextLink in Phoenix


XO Communications today launched broadband wireless services in Phoenix, 
bringing its NextLink wireless footprint to 10 major cities. XO will 
initially deploy in downtown Phoenix but plans its base station sites to 
cover the entire Phoenix metropolitan area including Paradise Valley, 
Scottsdale and Tempe.


XO has Local Multipoint Distribution System licenses in 75 markets—all 
left over from when the former NextLink tried to build a nationwide first 
generation broadband wireless access system for businesses. Like all of 
the initial BWA systems, the NextLink network never got off the ground, 
and when the company changed its name to XO it shelved the licenses, only 
to revive them again last year as an alternative to fiber and copper 
access in its markets.


XO has now launched wireless service in Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, 
Los Angeles, Miami, San Diego, Tampa and Washington, D.C.


(They don't know where service is available, but it's launched :)

Peter

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Re: [WISPA] NextLink in Phoenix

2007-03-20 Thread Tom DeReggi

Matt,

Agreed. They are in a number of our buildings. Everything done to top Telco 
standards. The Hughes AirReach gear aint cheap either. They definately are 
throwing money at it.
But at the end of the day, can they walk away with the customer AND still 
make a profit?  Teligent/Winstar proved the LMDS model ineffective 7 years 
ago. What has changed? I'm not sure the cost has?


The other thing to add is, if the model is the right one for todays market, 
its not an opportunity unique to XO, Teligent licenses (38Ghz) are 
obtainable by anyone on lease for like $50 a month.

(I think Nextlink/XO was somewhere between 26Ghz-29Ghz?)

Its a tough call, on what's best today.  Is the higher demand for broadband, 
and property owners' fees brought back down to reality, allowing it to work 
today? Truthfully Dragonwave class gear gets pretty clsoe to cost of the 
LMDS stuff. LMDS does well at 3-4 miles, a sweet spot in Urban america, 
apposed to limiting short range MMW type gear, which is now still twice the 
cost?  And LMDS still allows cost saving with PtMP.


I think the big differentiator is whether T1s (channelized) are the thing of 
the past, and whether Ethernet will be the dominator.
I'm betting on Ethernet, but the licensed gear still needs to come down in 
cost, based on the PTP limitation.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Tom DeReggi wrote:
Nothing new. XO has had an active Wireless Broadband division for the 
last few years.
They certainly spend a lot of money at least; not much revenue to show for 
it.


-Matt

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