Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3
The Lucaya enclosures don't really solve any problems for us. Most of our customers are 8-25 miles away from our APs. We need higher output at the radio, and higher gain antennas. But my comments below were more aimed at the Ubiquiti PS2 device being everything we wanted for those mid-range shots (the majority), up to about 15 miles. Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: John Valenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3 Mark, What don't you like about the Lucaya enclosures? I have one of the 1208 versions to evaluate. I think I like it a lot. The built-in antenna seems like it should be good enough for LOS customers out to a mile, and with our trees few people would have LOS beyond that anyway. If I want to use a stronger antenna, I can plug in a VAGI (that's what I'm leaning toward currently). And I can set that H or V polarity as desired. I should be able to just stock this single radio and be fully covered for clients in 2.4GHz. Near as I can tell, it is slightly cheaper than the Rootenna parts, arrives ready to install, and is FCC certified. I do like the small Rootenna, but realistically I spent several hours over the weekend putting together just 4 systems (and then testing them). I would be happy to never need to connect another ufl pigtail! Just testing the Roos in my basement, none of them worked as well as the 8dBi Lucaya unit. -John On October 26, at 11:13 AM October 26, Mark Nash wrote: That's really too bad because this unit WOULD BE very valuable to me if it could run StarOS v3. It's small, powerful, dual-pol, has LEDs to speed up the install/site survey (I know that LEDs aren't everything in a link), reasonably priced, FCC-Certified, etc. HOWEVER, StarOS v3 is my direction, so boards, standoffs, pigtails, and RooTennas it is. I don't like the Lucaya enclosures, or the enclosures with integrated antennas. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3
John Valenti wrote: Mark, What don't you like about the Lucaya enclosures? I have one of the 1208 versions to evaluate. I think I like it a lot. The built-in antenna seems like it should be good enough for LOS customers out to a mile, and with our trees few people would have LOS beyond that anyway. If I want to use a stronger antenna, I can plug in a VAGI (that's what I'm leaning toward currently). And I can set that H or V polarity as desired. I should be able to just stock this single radio and be fully covered for clients in 2.4GHz. Near as I can tell, it is slightly cheaper than the Rootenna parts, arrives ready to install, and is FCC certified. I do like the small Rootenna, but realistically I spent several hours over the weekend putting together just 4 systems (and then testing them). I would be happy to never need to connect another ufl pigtail! Just testing the Roos in my basement, none of them worked as well as the 8dBi Lucaya unit. -John I got an evaluation pack from Lonnie. The can o war as lonnie calls them, are nifty little cpe's. At 109.00 for qty 100 I think it's great deal too if I could use them in the right locations. With a price like that, you almost can't go wrong. I 2nd the ufl pigtail thouhts. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3
Mark, What don't you like about the Lucaya enclosures? I have one of the 1208 versions to evaluate. I think I like it a lot. The built-in antenna seems like it should be good enough for LOS customers out to a mile, and with our trees few people would have LOS beyond that anyway. If I want to use a stronger antenna, I can plug in a VAGI (that's what I'm leaning toward currently). And I can set that H or V polarity as desired. I should be able to just stock this single radio and be fully covered for clients in 2.4GHz. Near as I can tell, it is slightly cheaper than the Rootenna parts, arrives ready to install, and is FCC certified. I do like the small Rootenna, but realistically I spent several hours over the weekend putting together just 4 systems (and then testing them). I would be happy to never need to connect another ufl pigtail! Just testing the Roos in my basement, none of them worked as well as the 8dBi Lucaya unit. -John On October 26, at 11:13 AM October 26, Mark Nash wrote: That's really too bad because this unit WOULD BE very valuable to me if it could run StarOS v3. It's small, powerful, dual-pol, has LEDs to speed up the install/site survey (I know that LEDs aren't everything in a link), reasonably priced, FCC-Certified, etc. HOWEVER, StarOS v3 is my direction, so boards, standoffs, pigtails, and RooTennas it is. I don't like the Lucaya enclosures, or the enclosures with integrated antennas. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3
Before I get slammed with reply's; CORRECTION: Both StarOS and Mikrotik have competing hardware to UBNT. Sorry, I know Mikrotik has put a lot of money in the 133c boards and they don't want to open it to other hardware that competes. I don't know about Lonnie, and mean no dis-respect. I don't know if the WAR platform or anything Lonnie is releasing is actually produced by/for him. I am assuming he uses existing hardware... (ASS-U-ME) Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Rogers Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3 That is funny that both Mikrotik and StarOS are walking from UBNT. If I remember correctly, it was the amount of storage on the board that they had issues with. Mikrotik has a little more motive because they are selling competing hardware. Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wallace L. Walcher Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 5:29 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3 That is true. They were originally going to support the LS2 (the radio inside the PS2) but later backed away from that. I believe there was an issue with the hardware. They needed UBNT to make a change in order to support it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 1:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3 I have heard that this unit does not run StarOS v3. Can anyone confirm or disprove this? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3
That's really too bad because this unit WOULD BE very valuable to me if it could run StarOS v3. It's small, powerful, dual-pol, has LEDs to speed up the install/site survey (I know that LEDs aren't everything in a link), reasonably priced, FCC-Certified, etc. HOWEVER, StarOS v3 is my direction, so boards, standoffs, pigtails, and RooTennas it is. I don't like the Lucaya enclosures, or the enclosures with integrated antennas. Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Eric Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 7:54 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3 That is funny that both Mikrotik and StarOS are walking from UBNT. If I remember correctly, it was the amount of storage on the board that they had issues with. Mikrotik has a little more motive because they are selling competing hardware. Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wallace L. Walcher Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 5:29 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3 That is true. They were originally going to support the LS2 (the radio inside the PS2) but later backed away from that. I believe there was an issue with the hardware. They needed UBNT to make a change in order to support it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 1:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3 I have heard that this unit does not run StarOS v3. Can anyone confirm or disprove this? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3
That is funny that both Mikrotik and StarOS are walking from UBNT. If I remember correctly, it was the amount of storage on the board that they had issues with. Mikrotik has a little more motive because they are selling competing hardware. Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wallace L. Walcher Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 5:29 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3 That is true. They were originally going to support the LS2 (the radio inside the PS2) but later backed away from that. I believe there was an issue with the hardware. They needed UBNT to make a change in order to support it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 1:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3 I have heard that this unit does not run StarOS v3. Can anyone confirm or disprove this? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3
Dual POL has been a HOT topic for years. One of the other big disadvantages that never materialized. I actually had found a manufacturer that made a custom EXCELLENT Case that included a Dual POL antenna, perfect for CPE. WAR2s and 4s fit easilly. Cost around $70. I walked away from the venture for three reasons 1) because all the commotion regarding FCC Cerification, and the 2) STAROS was moving towards ADI boards that did not fit, and Mikrotik high processor boards didn't fit by one millimeter. 3) No Cost effect dual pol Larger antenna, if needed. 4) No cost effective option for EXTERNAL AP antenna, for 4 port systems, as it was no longer good enough for APs to be a single antenna/radio design.. 5) I don;t want to be a manufacturer But what I'd really like to see is for Lonnie (starOS) or Ligo, to make a CPE with this CPE antenna enclosure, as it would be a HUGE advantage. Provided that their new boards fit. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3 That's really too bad because this unit WOULD BE very valuable to me if it could run StarOS v3. It's small, powerful, dual-pol, has LEDs to speed up the install/site survey (I know that LEDs aren't everything in a link), reasonably priced, FCC-Certified, etc. HOWEVER, StarOS v3 is my direction, so boards, standoffs, pigtails, and RooTennas it is. I don't like the Lucaya enclosures, or the enclosures with integrated antennas. Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Eric Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 7:54 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3 That is funny that both Mikrotik and StarOS are walking from UBNT. If I remember correctly, it was the amount of storage on the board that they had issues with. Mikrotik has a little more motive because they are selling competing hardware. Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wallace L. Walcher Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 5:29 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3 That is true. They were originally going to support the LS2 (the radio inside the PS2) but later backed away from that. I believe there was an issue with the hardware. They needed UBNT to make a change in order to support it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 1:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3 I have heard that this unit does not run StarOS v3. Can anyone confirm or disprove this? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose
RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3
That is true. They were originally going to support the LS2 (the radio inside the PS2) but later backed away from that. I believe there was an issue with the hardware. They needed UBNT to make a change in order to support it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 1:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3 I have heard that this unit does not run StarOS v3. Can anyone confirm or disprove this? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
