Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
Concur on this as well. Have run it on W2K3 server and on WinXP and have never had it lock up on those. It's my understanding though, and I may be wrong on this, that the 2GB database limit has been introduced with version 5, but again, I may be wrong on this. There was a thread on this a week or two ago. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 6:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude Same here. I figure everyone else must be using a different Dude than I am. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/15/2010 11:03 PM, RickG wrote: Never, and I mean never, has Dude locked on my Win 2003 server. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Dude makes it much easier for support staff to properly support the network and provides all sorts of stats to prove issue to customers. We do however have issues with Dude locking up on both WinXP and RouterOS when the back-end database gets to 2GB. _ From: Jason Hensley [mailto:ja...@jaggartech.com] Sent: 15 November 2010 18:40 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude Had trouble with it locking up on RouterOS, but that was a couple of versions ago. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare. We scrapped that pretty quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by http://www.mailscanner.info/ MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
NagIOS for 'backbone', 'critical' infrastructure, premium customers, etc. that we need to be Nagged about. Have tried to configure the Dude to nag - not made for it. We use the Dude to map the network for at a glance overview. We also use it to notify us of day to day outages, flapping, etc. where a single email to the NOC is enough. Its easy interface makes it great for the non-tech taking the call to do minimal troubleshooting. We use Cacti used to graph historical data, signal, usage, latency, etc... 3 very useful tools each with it's place. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
Same here. I figure everyone else must be using a different Dude than I am. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/15/2010 11:03 PM, RickG wrote: Never, and I mean never, has Dude locked on my Win 2003 server. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com mailto:paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Dude makes it much easier for support staff to properly support the network and provides all sorts of stats to prove issue to customers. We do however have issues with Dude locking up on both WinXP and RouterOS when the back-end database gets to 2GB. *From:*Jason Hensley [mailto:ja...@jaggartech.com mailto:ja...@jaggartech.com] *Sent:* 15 November 2010 18:40 *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude Had trouble with it locking up on RouterOS, but that was a couple of versions ago. *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com mailto:ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare. We scrapped that pretty quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by *MailScanner* http://www.mailscanner.info/, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
Database issue seems to be since V4 beta as V3 had no database. There was a thread and where some emails from Mikrotik but not much else (i.e. no fix * ) _ From: Jason Hensley [mailto:ja...@jaggartech.com] Sent: 16 November 2010 14:23 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude Concur on this as well. Have run it on W2K3 server and on WinXP and have never had it lock up on those. It’s my understanding though, and I may be wrong on this, that the 2GB database limit has been introduced with version 5, but again, I may be wrong on this. There was a thread on this a week or two ago. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 6:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude Same here. I figure everyone else must be using a different Dude than I am. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/15/2010 11:03 PM, RickG wrote: Never, and I mean never, has Dude locked on my Win 2003 server. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Dude makes it much easier for support staff to properly support the network and provides all sorts of stats to prove issue to customers. We do however have issues with Dude locking up on both WinXP and RouterOS when the back-end database gets to 2GB. _ From: Jason Hensley [mailto:ja...@jaggartech.com] Sent: 15 November 2010 18:40 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude Had trouble with it locking up on RouterOS, but that was a couple of versions ago. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare. We scrapped that pretty quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
At Mum Phoenix I pulled one of the Mtik guys aside and logged into my Dude box and showed him 4 problems I was having with 4.0 Beta 3. He agreed and said that he had seen 2 of them and asked me to send supout's for the others. He said off the record that the 4 version was very buggy and had issues and they had lots of plans for improvements and fixes already in progress, BUT ROS 5 stable is a higher priority on the programming side then a free program like The Dude. I have found that much of my lockups was that I had messed with a lot of the polling features and it caused many lockups. Once I went back and disabled some of them my lockups have improved greatly. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 10:08 AM To: wireless Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude Database issue seems to be since V4 beta as V3 had no database. There was a thread and where some emails from Mikrotik but not much else (i.e. no fix :( ) From: Jason Hensley [mailto:ja...@jaggartech.com] Sent: 16 November 2010 14:23 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude Concur on this as well. Have run it on W2K3 server and on WinXP and have never had it lock up on those. It's my understanding though, and I may be wrong on this, that the 2GB database limit has been introduced with version 5, but again, I may be wrong on this. There was a thread on this a week or two ago. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 6:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude Same here. I figure everyone else must be using a different Dude than I am. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/15/2010 11:03 PM, RickG wrote: Never, and I mean never, has Dude locked on my Win 2003 server. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.commailto:paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Dude makes it much easier for support staff to properly support the network and provides all sorts of stats to prove issue to customers. We do however have issues with Dude locking up on both WinXP and RouterOS when the back-end database gets to 2GB. From: Jason Hensley [mailto:ja...@jaggartech.commailto:ja...@jaggartech.com] Sent: 15 November 2010 18:40 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude Had trouble with it locking up on RouterOS, but that was a couple of versions ago. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.commailto:ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare. We scrapped that pretty quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScannerhttp://www.mailscanner.info/, and is believed to be clean
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
Score two points for Nagios being top priority for their programmers…since it's the only thing they do :) Couldn't resist, sorry. I'll go back to poking these other bears… -- Adam Kennedy Network Engineer Omnicity, Inc. From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.commailto:st...@pcswin.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:52:14 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude At Mum Phoenix I pulled one of the Mtik guys aside and logged into my Dude box and showed him 4 problems I was having with 4.0 Beta 3. He agreed and said that he had seen 2 of them and asked me to send supout’s for the others. He said “off the record” that the 4 version was very buggy and had issues and they had lots of plans for improvements and fixes already in progress, BUT ROS 5 stable is a higher priority on the programming side then a free program like The Dude. I have found that much of my lockups was that I had messed with a lot of the polling features and it caused many lockups. Once I went back and disabled some of them my lockups have improved greatly. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 10:08 AM To: wireless Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude Database issue seems to be since V4 beta as V3 had no database. There was a thread and where some emails from Mikrotik but not much else (i.e. no fix :( ) From: Jason Hensley [mailto:ja...@jaggartech.com] Sent: 16 November 2010 14:23 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude Concur on this as well. Have run it on W2K3 server and on WinXP and have never had it lock up on those. It’s my understanding though, and I may be wrong on this, that the 2GB database limit has been introduced with version 5, but again, I may be wrong on this. There was a thread on this a week or two ago. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 6:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude Same here. I figure everyone else must be using a different Dude than I am. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/15/2010 11:03 PM, RickG wrote: Never, and I mean never, has Dude locked on my Win 2003 server. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.commailto:paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Dude makes it much easier for support staff to properly support the network and provides all sorts of stats to prove issue to customers. We do however have issues with Dude locking up on both WinXP and RouterOS when the back-end database gets to 2GB. From: Jason Hensley [mailto:ja...@jaggartech.commailto:ja...@jaggartech.com] Sent: 15 November 2010 18:40 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude Had trouble with it locking up on RouterOS, but that was a couple of versions ago. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.commailto:ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare. We scrapped that pretty quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
What are you using it for? If it's for monitoring servers (disk/cpu usage and such) Dude is a joke. If it's for an easy GUI to position things relative to one another, Nagios is going to be difficult. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
Nagios, IMHO, is more scalable. If you are monitoring hundreds to 1000+ units Nagios is a better fit. There are some Nagios front ends to help with configuration but they are still clunky compared the The Dude. If I you have a few hundred devices go with the Dude. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 09:30:14 -0800 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
We have Nagios for monitoring/alerting on: - wireless network components : up/down, flapping, signal levels, is ssh interface responding? - routers: up/down, flapping, utilization, is ssh interface responding? - UPS: up/down, battery capacity, battery status, internal temperature, line power status, load capacity, is telnet interface responding? - PDU (power distribution unit): up/down, is telnet interface responding? - switches: up/down, is telnet interface responding? - cluster monitoring (alert if XX number of CPEs of a particular AP goes into Warning, Critical, or Down status) - linux server: up/down, current load, current users, rootpartition status, swap memory usage, total processes, are web ssh interfaces responding? Cacti for graphing: - routers: interface traffic counters, CPU usage, memory usage - linux servers: disk space, CPU usage, load average, memory usage, - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude What are you using it for? If it's for monitoring servers (disk/cpu usage and such) Dude is a joke. If it's for an easy GUI to position things relative to one another, Nagios is going to be difficult. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
I would personally drop those two and use Xymon. Tack on Devmon for router SNMP queries. Though there could be a script to do it, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: We have Nagios for monitoring/alerting on: - wireless network components : up/down, flapping, signal levels, is ssh interface responding? - routers: up/down, flapping, utilization, is ssh interface responding? - UPS: up/down, battery capacity, battery status, internal temperature, line power status, load capacity, is telnet interface responding? - PDU (power distribution unit): up/down, is telnet interface responding? - switches: up/down, is telnet interface responding? - cluster monitoring (alert if XX number of CPEs of a particular AP goes into Warning, Critical, or Down status) - linux server: up/down, current load, current users, rootpartition status, swap memory usage, total processes, are web ssh interfaces responding? Cacti for graphing: - routers: interface traffic counters, CPU usage, memory usage - linux servers: disk space, CPU usage, load average, memory usage, - Original Message - *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Monday, November 15, 2010 9:34 AM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude What are you using it for? If it's for monitoring servers (disk/cpu usage and such) Dude is a joke. If it's for an easy GUI to position things relative to one another, Nagios is going to be difficult. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare. We scrapped that pretty quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare. We scrapped that pretty quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
Had trouble with it locking up on RouterOS, but that was a couple of versions ago. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare. We scrapped that pretty quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
What about pnp4nagios for graphing and nagvis for map of network?
Have you looked at NINJA for nagios?
On 11/15/2010 09:45 AM, Mark Nash wrote:
We have Nagios for monitoring/alerting on:
- wireless network components : up/down, flapping, signal levels, is ssh interface responding?
- routers: up/down, flapping, utilization, is ssh
interface responding?
- UPS: up/down, battery capacity, battery status,
internal temperature, line power status, load capacity, is telnet
interface responding?
- PDU (power distribution unit): up/down, is
telnet interface responding?
- switches: up/down, is telnet interface
responding?
- cluster monitoring (alert if XX number of CPEs
of a particular AP goes into "Warning", "Critical", or "Down" status)
- linux server: up/down, current load, current
users, rootpartition status, swap memory usage, total processes, are
web ssh interfaces responding?
Cacti for graphing:
- routers: interface traffic counters, CPU usage,
memory usage
- linux servers: disk space, CPU usage, load
average, memory usage,
-
Original Message -
From:
Josh Luthman
To:
WISPA General List
Sent:
Monday, November 15, 2010 9:34 AM
Subject:
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
What are you using it for? If it's for monitoring servers (disk/cpu
usage and such) Dude is a joke. If it's for an easy GUI to position
things relative to one another, Nagios is going to be difficult.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Mark
Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote:
I'd like to hear from people who have switched
from one of these free
products to the other.
I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to
hear pros cons of either.
What did you switch from/to, and why?
Thanks !
Mark
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Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
No income no jobs no assets? Couldn't resist... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.netwrote: What about pnp4nagios for graphing and nagvis for map of network? Have you looked at NINJA for nagios? On 11/15/2010 09:45 AM, Mark Nash wrote: We have Nagios for monitoring/alerting on: - wireless network components : up/down, flapping, signal levels, is ssh interface responding? - routers: up/down, flapping, utilization, is ssh interface responding? - UPS: up/down, battery capacity, battery status, internal temperature, line power status, load capacity, is telnet interface responding? - PDU (power distribution unit): up/down, is telnet interface responding? - switches: up/down, is telnet interface responding? - cluster monitoring (alert if XX number of CPEs of a particular AP goes into Warning, Critical, or Down status) - linux server: up/down, current load, current users, rootpartition status, swap memory usage, total processes, are web ssh interfaces responding? Cacti for graphing: - routers: interface traffic counters, CPU usage, memory usage - linux servers: disk space, CPU usage, load average, memory usage, - Original Message - *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Monday, November 15, 2010 9:34 AM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude What are you using it for? If it's for monitoring servers (disk/cpu usage and such) Dude is a joke. If it's for an easy GUI to position things relative to one another, Nagios is going to be difficult. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
Dude makes it much easier for support staff to properly support the network and provides all sorts of stats to prove issue to customers. We do however have issues with Dude locking up on both WinXP and RouterOS when the back-end database gets to 2GB. _ From: Jason Hensley [mailto:ja...@jaggartech.com] Sent: 15 November 2010 18:40 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude Had trouble with it locking up on RouterOS, but that was a couple of versions ago. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare. We scrapped that pretty quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
Never, and I mean never, has Dude locked on my Win 2003 server. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Dude makes it much easier for support staff to properly support the network and provides all sorts of stats to prove issue to customers. We do however have issues with Dude locking up on both WinXP and RouterOS when the back-end database gets to 2GB. -- *From:* Jason Hensley [mailto:ja...@jaggartech.com] *Sent:* 15 November 2010 18:40 *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude Had trouble with it locking up on RouterOS, but that was a couple of versions ago. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare. We scrapped that pretty quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by *MailScanner* http://www.mailscanner.info/, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
You are lucky. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:03 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Never, and I mean never, has Dude locked on my Win 2003 server. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Dude makes it much easier for support staff to properly support the network and provides all sorts of stats to prove issue to customers. We do however have issues with Dude locking up on both WinXP and RouterOS when the back-end database gets to 2GB. -- *From:* Jason Hensley [mailto:ja...@jaggartech.com] *Sent:* 15 November 2010 18:40 *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude Had trouble with it locking up on RouterOS, but that was a couple of versions ago. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare. We scrapped that pretty quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by *MailScanner* http://www.mailscanner.info/, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
Never locked up for me, I just hate wasting time on Windows servers. On Nov 16, 2010 12:05 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: You are lucky. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:03 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Never, and I mean never, has Dude locked on my Win 2003 server. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Dude makes it much easier for support staff to properly support the network and provides all sorts of stats to prove issue to customers. We do however have issues with Dude locking up on both WinXP and RouterOS when the back-end database gets to 2GB. -- *From:* Jason Hensley [mailto:ja...@jaggartech.com] *Sent:* 15 November 2010 18:40 *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude Had trouble with it locking up on RouterOS, but that was a couple of versions ago. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare. We scrapped that pretty quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by *MailScanner* http://www.mailscanner.info/, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
PNP4Nagios works pretty well. The only thing that I didn't like is that it was a steep (very steep) learning curve for that interface vs. Cacti. I didn't really want to go through and re-create all of my graph templates again so I stuck with Cacti. NINJA is ok, but I found it to be a bit irritation when dealing with moving from existing configurations to NINJA. If you are starting out a new Nagios installation then NINJA is probably ok for your needs. I used NagVis for a short period of time. My irritations with it always seem to be the support staff. They want some kind of map that is kept up to date with all the network gear. That request is just about impossible to do the right way without some custom code for a specific network layout. -- Adam Kennedy Network Engineer Omnicity, Inc. From: Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.netmailto:m...@smarterbroadband.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:10:48 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude What about pnp4nagios for graphing and nagvis for map of network? Have you looked at NINJA for nagios? On 11/15/2010 09:45 AM, Mark Nash wrote: We have Nagios for monitoring/alerting on: - wireless network components : up/down, flapping, signal levels, is ssh interface responding? - routers: up/down, flapping, utilization, is ssh interface responding? - UPS: up/down, battery capacity, battery status, internal temperature, line power status, load capacity, is telnet interface responding? - PDU (power distribution unit): up/down, is telnet interface responding? - switches: up/down, is telnet interface responding? - cluster monitoring (alert if XX number of CPEs of a particular AP goes into Warning, Critical, or Down status) - linux server: up/down, current load, current users, rootpartition status, swap memory usage, total processes, are web ssh interfaces responding? Cacti for graphing: - routers: interface traffic counters, CPU usage, memory usage - linux servers: disk space, CPU usage, load average, memory usage, - Original Message - From: Josh Luthmanmailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude What are you using it for? If it's for monitoring servers (disk/cpu usage and such) Dude is a joke. If it's for an easy GUI to position things relative to one another, Nagios is going to be difficult. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.netmailto:markl...@uwol.net wrote: I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
Not that I have any preferences of OS but to be fair I set up the WIndows 2003 server once (last year) and have never done anything else to it. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Never locked up for me, I just hate wasting time on Windows servers. On Nov 16, 2010 12:05 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: You are lucky. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:03 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Never, and I mean never, has Dude locked on my Win 2003 server. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Dude makes it much easier for support staff to properly support the network and provides all sorts of stats to prove issue to customers. We do however have issues with Dude locking up on both WinXP and RouterOS when the back-end database gets to 2GB. -- *From:* Jason Hensley [mailto:ja...@jaggartech.com] *Sent:* 15 November 2010 18:40 *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude Had trouble with it locking up on RouterOS, but that was a couple of versions ago. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare. We scrapped that pretty quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by *MailScanner* http://www.mailscanner.info/, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
I'll go ahead and plug the Opsview front end to nagios. More than a front end really. I've been using nagios since the netsaint days and didn't want to give up years of hands on experience, but we needed a bit slicker configuration methods. It also *almost* replaces cacti, but not quite. However, we only keep our more specialized stuff in cacti, stuff that we developed complex templates for. Opsview will handily graph/alert on switch/router/radio interfaces with a few clicks, and with almost no effort will graph/alert on any oid (or really, anything) you want. Ryan From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude Not that I have any preferences of OS but to be fair I set up the WIndows 2003 server once (last year) and have never done anything else to it. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Never locked up for me, I just hate wasting time on Windows servers. On Nov 16, 2010 12:05 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.commailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: You are lucky. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:03 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.commailto:rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Never, and I mean never, has Dude locked on my Win 2003 server. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.commailto:paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Dude makes it much easier for support staff to properly support the network and provides all sorts of stats to prove issue to customers. We do however have issues with Dude locking up on both WinXP and RouterOS when the back-end database gets to 2GB. -- *From:* Jason Hensley [mailto:ja...@jaggartech.commailto:ja...@jaggartech.com] *Sent:* 15 November 2010 18:40 *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude Had trouble with it locking up on RouterOS, but that was a couple of versions ago. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.commailto:ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare. We scrapped that pretty quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by *MailScanner* http://www.mailscanner.info/, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
