Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
LOL, and I have permanent black marks on my office carpet, my home, my truck, my clothes, my harness etc etc... When coax seal gets HOT it doesn't melt but it gets real soft and sticky and will not ever come off anything. Its been such a mess here in FL that I have actually stopped using it. I use this other stuff now that is thinner and cleaner I prefer, sorry forget what its called. If I must use coax seal I put this under it so I can actually remove the junk when I take it apart and end up with a clean cable when done. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 1:57 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I second this. We have used this for 5+ years now and haven't had a single water issue since we started using it. And it's cheap, and easy to work with in the summer heat and the winter cold. Travis Josh Luthman wrote: Best. Stuff. Ever. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZPINC/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=48 6539851pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1pf_rd_t=201pf_rd_i=B00075J4J6pf_rd_m=ATVP DKIKX0DERpf_rd_r=0YKHJM87AJ2TBD52DRE2 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Rubber tape rules on this end. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
Never made a mess except on threads like N female connectors. On 12/1/09, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: LOL, and I have permanent black marks on my office carpet, my home, my truck, my clothes, my harness etc etc... When coax seal gets HOT it doesn't melt but it gets real soft and sticky and will not ever come off anything. Its been such a mess here in FL that I have actually stopped using it. I use this other stuff now that is thinner and cleaner I prefer, sorry forget what its called. If I must use coax seal I put this under it so I can actually remove the junk when I take it apart and end up with a clean cable when done. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 1:57 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I second this. We have used this for 5+ years now and haven't had a single water issue since we started using it. And it's cheap, and easy to work with in the summer heat and the winter cold. Travis Josh Luthman wrote: Best. Stuff. Ever. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZPINC/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=48 6539851pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1pf_rd_t=201pf_rd_i=B00075J4J6pf_rd_m=ATVP DKIKX0DERpf_rd_r=0YKHJM87AJ2TBD52DRE2 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Rubber tape rules on this end. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
Use a double-layer of high grade electrical tape with the coax seal in between. -RickG On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Never made a mess except on threads like N female connectors. On 12/1/09, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: LOL, and I have permanent black marks on my office carpet, my home, my truck, my clothes, my harness etc etc... When coax seal gets HOT it doesn't melt but it gets real soft and sticky and will not ever come off anything. Its been such a mess here in FL that I have actually stopped using it. I use this other stuff now that is thinner and cleaner I prefer, sorry forget what its called. If I must use coax seal I put this under it so I can actually remove the junk when I take it apart and end up with a clean cable when done. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 1:57 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I second this. We have used this for 5+ years now and haven't had a single water issue since we started using it. And it's cheap, and easy to work with in the summer heat and the winter cold. Travis Josh Luthman wrote: Best. Stuff. Ever. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZPINC/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=48 6539851pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1pf_rd_t=201pf_rd_i=B00075J4J6pf_rd_m=ATVP DKIKX0DERpf_rd_r=0YKHJM87AJ2TBD52DRE2 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Rubber tape rules on this end. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
According to UBNT, their Rocket and RocketDish have an IP67 compliant connector. According to other (more reputable) companies that have IP67 radios, they're water submersible to a couple feet. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:50 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
Rubber tape rules on this end. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
Best. Stuff. Ever. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZPINC/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1pf_rd_t=201pf_rd_i=B00075J4J6pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_r=0YKHJM87AJ2TBD52DRE2 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Rubber tape rules on this end. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
The Rockets use what seems to be a soft silicone sleeve that slides over the RSMA. Me no trust. I taped them anyway. Ugly, yes. Watertight? Heck yes. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors According to UBNT, their Rocket and RocketDish have an IP67 compliant connector. According to other (more reputable) companies that have IP67 radios, they're water submersible to a couple feet. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:50 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
I second this. We have used this for 5+ years now and haven't had a single water issue since we started using it. And it's cheap, and easy to work with in the summer heat and the winter cold. Travis Josh Luthman wrote: Best. Stuff. Ever. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZPINC/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1pf_rd_t=201pf_rd_i=B00075J4J6pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_r=0YKHJM87AJ2TBD52DRE2 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Rubber tape rules on this end. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: "RickG" rgunder...@gmail.com To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "MDK" rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: h
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
The silicone sleeve is just for appearance. It's not needed, according to them. I'm tempted to setup a Rocket and sector in a shower and just leave them there for a couple weeks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors The Rockets use what seems to be a soft silicone sleeve that slides over the RSMA. Me no trust. I taped them anyway. Ugly, yes. Watertight? Heck yes. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors According to UBNT, their Rocket and RocketDish have an IP67 compliant connector. According to other (more reputable) companies that have IP67 radios, they're water submersible to a couple feet. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:50 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
Yeah, self vulcanizing rubber :-). I use this: http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3MElectrical/Home/ProductsServices/Products/?PC_7_RJH9U5230GE3E02LECIE20OES1_nid=0L2RH0Z4C7beV8CW66MTMZgl A royal pain to take back apart. But if it is easy to get off it's not very good of a seal :-). marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I second this. We have used this for 5+ years now and haven't had a single water issue since we started using it. And it's cheap, and easy to work with in the summer heat and the winter cold. Travis Josh Luthman wrote: Best. Stuff. Ever. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZPINC/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1pf_rd_t=201pf_rd_i=B00075J4J6pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_r=0YKHJM87AJ2TBD52DRE2 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Rubber tape rules on this end. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
http://www.amazon.com/GB-Electrical-HTP-1010-Self-Sealing/dp/B4WLKT This is all I've used since the first year I was a WISP. Easy to take off the couple times I've needed to and I've never had a water issue. Well, I get the stuff I use from Lowes. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:28 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Best. Stuff. Ever. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZPINC/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1pf_rd_t=201pf_rd_i=B00075J4J6pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_r=0YKHJM87AJ2TBD52DRE2 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Rubber tape rules on this end. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
Why can't we have something like this: http://www.tvcinc.com/products.aspx?item_group_id=174product_line_id=5 Then I can have a factory sealed pigtail coming out of my antenna, and a factory sealed pigtail coming out of my radio.. Then the 2 can meet in silicon squished bliss. ryan On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: http://www.amazon.com/GB-Electrical-HTP-1010-Self-Sealing/dp/B4WLKT This is all I've used since the first year I was a WISP. Easy to take off the couple times I've needed to and I've never had a water issue. Well, I get the stuff I use from Lowes. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:28 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Best. Stuff. Ever. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZPINC/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1pf_rd_t=201pf_rd_i=B00075J4J6pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_r=0YKHJM87AJ2TBD52DRE2 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Rubber tape rules on this end. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
Tried the self sealing tape products. Neither of them worked well for me (for very long). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: Why can't we have something like this: http://www.tvcinc.com/products.aspx?item_group_id=174product_line_id=5 Then I can have a factory sealed pigtail coming out of my antenna, and a factory sealed pigtail coming out of my radio.. Then the 2 can meet in silicon squished bliss. ryan On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.amazon.com/GB-Electrical-HTP-1010-Self-Sealing/dp/B4WLKT This is all I've used since the first year I was a WISP. Easy to take off the couple times I've needed to and I've never had a water issue. Well, I get the stuff I use from Lowes. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:28 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Best. Stuff. Ever. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZPINC/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1pf_rd_t=201pf_rd_i=B00075J4J6pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_r=0YKHJM87AJ2TBD52DRE2 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Rubber tape rules on this end. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
I've observed that myself. However, nothing works when the connectors themselves fail. So far, I've had multiple cheap connectors break, or pre-built cables come apart, where there was apparently little to no physical strength to the end. Just a short length of cable hanging off the antenna (about 2 feet) pulled it apart, and it lasted all of 5 months from install.The 400 size cable was supported by cable clamps which were screwed in place, but the little tail that hung out to the antenna, the approximate amount needed to have a nice bend between the pole and the antenna (mounted on a universal mount) slowly pulled itself apart. So far, I've had one Times EZ physically fail (broken in two) from the persistent wiggle of the all the wind we've had - but it's near 6 years old. The box is attached to the pole, and there's about 24 inches between the bulkhead connector and the first cable clamp, where we had a nice easy bend and a drip loop. Other wind damage has been a hand tightened (inside a building) N connector backing clear out, screws attaching a board back out and allowing the spacer to fall out and the board moved back and shorted against the steel box, a seemingly failed mini-itx board that kept rebooting or shutting off from the shaking of the box attached to a telephone pole.Assorted connectors and wire snapping off due to persistent slight wiggles when the building shakes. I had a CF card come off a WRAP board, apparently due to the persistent shaking of the wind - seen that 3 or 4 times, actually. In one case, it broke the board from the harsh pounding it got from being up on a guyed pole (didn't come down). We've seen so much wind this year, it's near insane. As I write this, there's apparently a very widespread power outage, much of a nearby town and the area I serve in the mountains has scattered outages too.It's scattered across 3 different power companies and most of the town has closed on the doors and nobody there. We're up, though I had to restore power after my backup ran dead this morning. I'm SO tired of this wind... -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:50 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
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yes but, condensation can get water inside a connector, even when water submersible will not. Thick tape without air pockets is needed to solve that. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors According to UBNT, their Rocket and RocketDish have an IP67 compliant connector. According to other (more reputable) companies that have IP67 radios, they're water submersible to a couple feet. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:50 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
We use the 3M also. We have had some water intrusion issues, but... we have almost always been able to attribute it to poor installation technique. Taping is unforgiving. When done right, it protects for like eternity. When its done poorly its lucky to last a year. Must use Mastic underneith, and UV on top. Must overlap 1/4 and position it like a shingle, so water does not run into seam but away from it. The underlayer must be stretched tight. Must extend tape to far edges w/ atleast 1 on cable side. Must avoid creating air pockets. Must have tape layers thick enough, atleast 1/8 deep or more. It also helps big time to use Scotch coat, as a third outer layer. We ahve never had a a seal fail that we had used scotchcoat. We rarely use Scotch coat anymore because its gooey and hard to work with to brush on. But its worth using for critical back hauls that you never want to have to touch again. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yeah, self vulcanizing rubber :-). I use this: http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3MElectrical/Home/ProductsServices/Products/?PC_7_RJH9U5230GE3E02LECIE20OES1_nid=0L2RH0Z4C7beV8CW66MTMZgl A royal pain to take back apart. But if it is easy to get off it's not very good of a seal :-). marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I second this. We have used this for 5+ years now and haven't had a single water issue since we started using it. And it's cheap, and easy to work with in the summer heat and the winter cold. Travis Josh Luthman wrote: Best. Stuff. Ever. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZPINC/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1pf_rd_t=201pf_rd_i=B00075J4J6pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_r=0YKHJM87AJ2TBD52DRE2 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Rubber tape rules on this end. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
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Turn the power down! On Nov 24, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: The silicone sleeve is just for appearance. It's not needed, according to them. I'm tempted to setup a Rocket and sector in a shower and just leave them there for a couple weeks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors The Rockets use what seems to be a soft silicone sleeve that slides over the RSMA. Me no trust. I taped them anyway. Ugly, yes. Watertight? Heck yes. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors According to UBNT, their Rocket and RocketDish have an IP67 compliant connector. According to other (more reputable) companies that have IP67 radios, they're water submersible to a couple feet. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:50 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
I just switched to this. http://www.timesmicrowave.com/content/pr/wk-s.pdf's Tom DeReggi wrote: We use the 3M also. We have had some water intrusion issues, but... we have almost always been able to attribute it to poor installation technique. Taping is unforgiving. When done right, it protects for like eternity. When its done poorly its lucky to last a year. Must use Mastic underneith, and UV on top. Must overlap 1/4 and position it like a shingle, so water does not run into seam but away from it. The underlayer must be stretched tight. Must extend tape to far edges w/ atleast 1 on cable side. Must avoid creating air pockets. Must have tape layers thick enough, atleast 1/8 deep or more. It also helps big time to use Scotch coat, as a third outer layer. We ahve never had a a seal fail that we had used scotchcoat. We rarely use Scotch coat anymore because its gooey and hard to work with to brush on. But its worth using for critical back hauls that you never want to have to touch again. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yeah, self vulcanizing rubber :-). I use this: http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3MElectrical/Home/ProductsServices/Products/?PC_7_RJH9U5230GE3E02LECIE20OES1_nid=0L2RH0Z4C7beV8CW66MTMZgl A royal pain to take back apart. But if it is easy to get off it's not very good of a seal :-). marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I second this. We have used this for 5+ years now and haven't had a single water issue since we started using it. And it's cheap, and easy to work with in the summer heat and the winter cold. Travis Josh Luthman wrote: Best. Stuff. Ever. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZPINC/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1pf_rd_t=201pf_rd_i=B00075J4J6pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_r=0YKHJM87AJ2TBD52DRE2 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Rubber tape rules on this end. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
Yeah, I remember that at the Chicago conference. The question someone asked was something like, What's the purpose of the silicone sleeves?. Answer... Marketing purposes. Can't say I've taken a shower with RF equipment on purpose before. Does the added radiation get you any more sanitary? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors The silicone sleeve is just for appearance. It's not needed, according to them. I'm tempted to setup a Rocket and sector in a shower and just leave them there for a couple weeks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors The Rockets use what seems to be a soft silicone sleeve that slides over the RSMA. Me no trust. I taped them anyway. Ugly, yes. Watertight? Heck yes. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors According to UBNT, their Rocket and RocketDish have an IP67 compliant connector. According to other (more reputable) companies that have IP67 radios, they're water submersible to a couple feet. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:50 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
I've been able to find it at Home Depot lately. Stay away from that generic house brand stuff though. I tried the Rubber Splicing Tape from Ace Hardware this past summer cause I was tapeless and sure, it worked okay then but I went back a few weeks ago and the stuff is all falling apart. Looked like it was 5 years old. Yuck! Doesn't like the weather. I've seen some top coat it with some regular electrical tape but I've never had to do that with the Scotch brand. Holds up. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yeah, self vulcanizing rubber :-). I use this: http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3MElectrical/Home/ProductsServic es/Products/?PC_7_RJH9U5230GE3E02LECIE20OES1_nid=0L2RH0Z4C7beV8CW66MTMZgl A royal pain to take back apart. But if it is easy to get off it's not very good of a seal :-). marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I second this. We have used this for 5+ years now and haven't had a single water issue since we started using it. And it's cheap, and easy to work with in the summer heat and the winter cold. Travis Josh Luthman wrote: Best. Stuff. Ever. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZPINC/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=48 6539851pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1pf_rd_t=201pf_rd_i=B00075J4J6pf_rd_m=ATVP DKIKX0DERpf_rd_r=0YKHJM87AJ2TBD52DRE2 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Rubber tape rules on this end. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
Hey, that amazon listing shows 9 new in stock. Any idea if they have any USED available? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors http://www.amazon.com/GB-Electrical-HTP-1010-Self-Sealing/dp/B4WLKT This is all I've used since the first year I was a WISP. Easy to take off the couple times I've needed to and I've never had a water issue. Well, I get the stuff I use from Lowes. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:28 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Best. Stuff. Ever. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZPINC/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=48 6539851pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1pf_rd_t=201pf_rd_i=B00075J4J6pf_rd_m=ATVP DKIKX0DERpf_rd_r=0YKHJM87AJ2TBD52DRE2 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Rubber tape rules on this end. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
Pretty much the same idea as vapor seal. The tape is easier to stick in my pocket though. Can't see a roll of that stuff stuffed in my coat. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Spott Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Why can't we have something like this: http://www.tvcinc.com/products.aspx?item_group_id=174product_line_id=5 Then I can have a factory sealed pigtail coming out of my antenna, and a factory sealed pigtail coming out of my radio.. Then the 2 can meet in silicon squished bliss. ryan On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: http://www.amazon.com/GB-Electrical-HTP-1010-Self-Sealing/dp/B4WLKT This is all I've used since the first year I was a WISP. Easy to take off the couple times I've needed to and I've never had a water issue. Well, I get the stuff I use from Lowes. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:28 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Best. Stuff. Ever. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZPINC/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=48 6539851pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1pf_rd_t=201pf_rd_i=B00075J4J6pf_rd_m=ATVP DKIKX0DERpf_rd_r=0YKHJM87AJ2TBD52DRE2 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Rubber tape rules on this end. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
If you want something done right you just have to do it yourself. Can't rely on the self sealers to self seal. They're basically lazy. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Tried the self sealing tape products. Neither of them worked well for me (for very long). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: Why can't we have something like this: http://www.tvcinc.com/products.aspx?item_group_id=174product_line_id=5 Then I can have a factory sealed pigtail coming out of my antenna, and a factory sealed pigtail coming out of my radio.. Then the 2 can meet in silicon squished bliss. ryan On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.amazon.com/GB-Electrical-HTP-1010-Self-Sealing/dp/B4WLKT This is all I've used since the first year I was a WISP. Easy to take off the couple times I've needed to and I've never had a water issue. Well, I get the stuff I use from Lowes. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:28 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Best. Stuff. Ever. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZPINC/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=48 6539851pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1pf_rd_t=201pf_rd_i=B00075J4J6pf_rd_m=ATVP DKIKX0DERpf_rd_r=0YKHJM87AJ2TBD52DRE2 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Rubber tape rules on this end. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
Okay, so did you fall in the same trap as I did? Order some REALLY cheap pigtails and connectors from unknown China outfit and hoped for the best? I got lots of pigtails with only one end, man! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've observed that myself. However, nothing works when the connectors themselves fail. So far, I've had multiple cheap connectors break, or pre-built cables come apart, where there was apparently little to no physical strength to the end. Just a short length of cable hanging off the antenna (about 2 feet) pulled it apart, and it lasted all of 5 months from install.The 400 size cable was supported by cable clamps which were screwed in place, but the little tail that hung out to the antenna, the approximate amount needed to have a nice bend between the pole and the antenna (mounted on a universal mount) slowly pulled itself apart. So far, I've had one Times EZ physically fail (broken in two) from the persistent wiggle of the all the wind we've had - but it's near 6 years old. The box is attached to the pole, and there's about 24 inches between the bulkhead connector and the first cable clamp, where we had a nice easy bend and a drip loop. Other wind damage has been a hand tightened (inside a building) N connector backing clear out, screws attaching a board back out and allowing the spacer to fall out and the board moved back and shorted against the steel box, a seemingly failed mini-itx board that kept rebooting or shutting off from the shaking of the box attached to a telephone pole.Assorted connectors and wire snapping off due to persistent slight wiggles when the building shakes. I had a CF card come off a WRAP board, apparently due to the persistent shaking of the wind - seen that 3 or 4 times, actually. In one case, it broke the board from the harsh pounding it got from being up on a guyed pole (didn't come down). We've seen so much wind this year, it's near insane. As I write this, there's apparently a very widespread power outage, much of a nearby town and the area I serve in the mountains has scattered outages too.It's scattered across 3 different power companies and most of the town has closed on the doors and nobody there. We're up, though I had to restore power after my backup ran dead this morning. I'm SO tired of this wind... -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:50 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
Errr, no.I bought the cables and the ends my normal vendors had in stock. I'll be happy to pay 10 bux for good ones (ends), as comparison to 3 or 4 for the others.I've seen them REAL cheap elsewhere, but wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole. -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:14 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Okay, so did you fall in the same trap as I did? Order some REALLY cheap pigtails and connectors from unknown China outfit and hoped for the best? I got lots of pigtails with only one end, man! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've observed that myself. However, nothing works when the connectors themselves fail. So far, I've had multiple cheap connectors break, or pre-built cables come apart, where there was apparently little to no physical strength to the end. Just a short length of cable hanging off the antenna (about 2 feet) pulled it apart, and it lasted all of 5 months from install.The 400 size cable was supported by cable clamps which were screwed in place, but the little tail that hung out to the antenna, the approximate amount needed to have a nice bend between the pole and the antenna (mounted on a universal mount) slowly pulled itself apart. So far, I've had one Times EZ physically fail (broken in two) from the persistent wiggle of the all the wind we've had - but it's near 6 years old. The box is attached to the pole, and there's about 24 inches between the bulkhead connector and the first cable clamp, where we had a nice easy bend and a drip loop. Other wind damage has been a hand tightened (inside a building) N connector backing clear out, screws attaching a board back out and allowing the spacer to fall out and the board moved back and shorted against the steel box, a seemingly failed mini-itx board that kept rebooting or shutting off from the shaking of the box attached to a telephone pole.Assorted connectors and wire snapping off due to persistent slight wiggles when the building shakes. I had a CF card come off a WRAP board, apparently due to the persistent shaking of the wind - seen that 3 or 4 times, actually. In one case, it broke the board from the harsh pounding it got from being up on a guyed pole (didn't come down). We've seen so much wind this year, it's near insane. As I write this, there's apparently a very widespread power outage, much of a nearby town and the area I serve in the mountains has scattered outages too.It's scattered across 3 different power companies and most of the town has closed on the doors and nobody there. We're up, though I had to restore power after my backup ran dead this morning. I'm SO tired of this wind... -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:50 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
This is going to sound like a Huber+Suhner commercial. 1. Waterproof connectors At 11:41 PM + 11/19/09, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. True for most low end connectors. However, H+S makes connectors with integrated o-rings that are IP68/NEMA-6 rated. That means they have to pass a water submersion test. I have used the product with success. They are probably more expensive than most WISP's can afford, but you get what you pay for. I don't know if they have one that would work for LMR-400 cable. They also make hermetically sealed connectors. http://www.hubersuhnerinc.com/co-ca-us/mozilla/us-news.htm?org=4F0184A3DC3E6840newsid=D05AABE63966F25Eitemstate=2back=ECC6CA06810995BD1581FAC18CAA4AFB 2. adhesive shrink tubing At 4:42 PM -0700 11/19/09, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) Adhesive shrink tubing probably won't pass IP68, but that doesn't mean it won't help. 3. There is better cable out there than LMR-400. Again H+S makes one that is quite a bit better, especially at 5.8 GHz, and not too expensive. Contact me off list if you need pointers. Having said that I suspect that H+S doesn't want to sell directly to WISPs but rather to large customers and distributors. Best, leb At 11:41 PM + 11/19/09, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- l...@iridescent.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
I touched it with a 2 and a half foot pole. Lesson learned. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 7:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Errr, no.I bought the cables and the ends my normal vendors had in stock. I'll be happy to pay 10 bux for good ones (ends), as comparison to 3 or 4 for the others.I've seen them REAL cheap elsewhere, but wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole. -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:14 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Okay, so did you fall in the same trap as I did? Order some REALLY cheap pigtails and connectors from unknown China outfit and hoped for the best? I got lots of pigtails with only one end, man! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've observed that myself. However, nothing works when the connectors themselves fail. So far, I've had multiple cheap connectors break, or pre-built cables come apart, where there was apparently little to no physical strength to the end. Just a short length of cable hanging off the antenna (about 2 feet) pulled it apart, and it lasted all of 5 months from install.The 400 size cable was supported by cable clamps which were screwed in place, but the little tail that hung out to the antenna, the approximate amount needed to have a nice bend between the pole and the antenna (mounted on a universal mount) slowly pulled itself apart. So far, I've had one Times EZ physically fail (broken in two) from the persistent wiggle of the all the wind we've had - but it's near 6 years old. The box is attached to the pole, and there's about 24 inches between the bulkhead connector and the first cable clamp, where we had a nice easy bend and a drip loop. Other wind damage has been a hand tightened (inside a building) N connector backing clear out, screws attaching a board back out and allowing the spacer to fall out and the board moved back and shorted against the steel box, a seemingly failed mini-itx board that kept rebooting or shutting off from the shaking of the box attached to a telephone pole.Assorted connectors and wire snapping off due to persistent slight wiggles when the building shakes. I had a CF card come off a WRAP board, apparently due to the persistent shaking of the wind - seen that 3 or 4 times, actually. In one case, it broke the board from the harsh pounding it got from being up on a guyed pole (didn't come down). We've seen so much wind this year, it's near insane. As I write this, there's apparently a very widespread power outage, much of a nearby town and the area I serve in the mountains has scattered outages too.It's scattered across 3 different power companies and most of the town has closed on the doors and nobody there. We're up, though I had to restore power after my backup ran dead this morning. I'm SO tired of this wind... -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:50 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Heat shrink doesn't work in the cold. It will get hard (the glue) and as things move in the wind etc. it'll allow water in. Been there done that. NOTHING works better than self vulcanizing rubber tape. If what you use is easy to get off it's not a good tight seal. sigh It sure can't be that hard to build a connector that seals without the tape! sigh marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
Yeah I left PPC connectors out of the conversation. We used them quite a bit. The ability to keep out water is 100 times better than standard N type LMR400 connectors but I know of sweeoing issues with these from other users. And the cost is a little higher. We still waterproof even when using PPC connectors Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Lawrence E. Bakst m...@iridescent.org Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:32:10 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Cc: lakel...@gbcx.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors This is going to sound like a Huber+Suhner commercial. 1. Waterproof connectors At 11:41 PM + 11/19/09, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. True for most low end connectors. However, H+S makes connectors with integrated o-rings that are IP68/NEMA-6 rated. That means they have to pass a water submersion test. I have used the product with success. They are probably more expensive than most WISP's can afford, but you get what you pay for. I don't know if they have one that would work for LMR-400 cable. They also make hermetically sealed connectors. http://www.hubersuhnerinc.com/co-ca-us/mozilla/us-news.htm?org=4F0184A3DC3E6840newsid=D05AABE63966F25Eitemstate=2back=ECC6CA06810995BD1581FAC18CAA4AFB 2. adhesive shrink tubing At 4:42 PM -0700 11/19/09, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) Adhesive shrink tubing probably won't pass IP68, but that doesn't mean it won't help. 3. There is better cable out there than LMR-400. Again H+S makes one that is quite a bit better, especially at 5.8 GHz, and not too expensive. Contact me off list if you need pointers. Having said that I suspect that H+S doesn't want to sell directly to WISPs but rather to large customers and distributors. Best, leb At 11:41 PM + 11/19/09, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- l...@iridescent.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
PPC connectors, at least for CATV Mainline, in our neck of the woods, have best been described as P*ss poor connectors... They don't like our climate lol... On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 8:00 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Yeah I left PPC connectors out of the conversation. We used them quite a bit. The ability to keep out water is 100 times better than standard N type LMR400 connectors but I know of sweeoing issues with these from other users. And the cost is a little higher. We still waterproof even when using PPC connectors Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Lawrence E. Bakst m...@iridescent.org Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:32:10 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Cc: lakel...@gbcx.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors This is going to sound like a Huber+Suhner commercial. 1. Waterproof connectors At 11:41 PM + 11/19/09, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. True for most low end connectors. However, H+S makes connectors with integrated o-rings that are IP68/NEMA-6 rated. That means they have to pass a water submersion test. I have used the product with success. They are probably more expensive than most WISP's can afford, but you get what you pay for. I don't know if they have one that would work for LMR-400 cable. They also make hermetically sealed connectors. http://www.hubersuhnerinc.com/co-ca-us/mozilla/us-news.htm?org=4F0184A3DC3E6840newsid=D05AABE63966F25Eitemstate=2back=ECC6CA06810995BD1581FAC18CAA4AFB 2. adhesive shrink tubing At 4:42 PM -0700 11/19/09, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) Adhesive shrink tubing probably won't pass IP68, but that doesn't mean it won't help. 3. There is better cable out there than LMR-400. Again H+S makes one that is quite a bit better, especially at 5.8 GHz, and not too expensive. Contact me off list if you need pointers. Having said that I suspect that H+S doesn't want to sell directly to WISPs but rather to large customers and distributors. Best, leb At 11:41 PM + 11/19/09, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- l...@iridescent.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
There is a H+S distributor about 15 miles down the road from me. I'm looking at getting a couple of Avante (I think that's what they're called) mobile antenna they make. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Lawrence E. Bakst m...@iridescent.org Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 7:32 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors This is going to sound like a Huber+Suhner commercial. 1. Waterproof connectors At 11:41 PM + 11/19/09, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. True for most low end connectors. However, H+S makes connectors with integrated o-rings that are IP68/NEMA-6 rated. That means they have to pass a water submersion test. I have used the product with success. They are probably more expensive than most WISP's can afford, but you get what you pay for. I don't know if they have one that would work for LMR-400 cable. They also make hermetically sealed connectors. http://www.hubersuhnerinc.com/co-ca-us/mozilla/us-news.htm?org=4F0184A3DC3E6840newsid=D05AABE63966F25Eitemstate=2back=ECC6CA06810995BD1581FAC18CAA4AFB 2. adhesive shrink tubing At 4:42 PM -0700 11/19/09, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) Adhesive shrink tubing probably won't pass IP68, but that doesn't mean it won't help. 3. There is better cable out there than LMR-400. Again H+S makes one that is quite a bit better, especially at 5.8 GHz, and not too expensive. Contact me off list if you need pointers. Having said that I suspect that H+S doesn't want to sell directly to WISPs but rather to large customers and distributors. Best, leb At 11:41 PM + 11/19/09, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- l...@iridescent.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
Have you tried CTB-15 from CANUSA? http://www.dsgcanusa.com/literature/datasheets/DATA_CTB-15.pdf The description seems pretty good and it does not require heat. Thanks, Mark On 11/19/09 10:56 PM, AJ aj.grant...@gmail.com wrote: I used to use Coax-seal on everything... Finally discovered CANUSA and won't ever turn back... Great seal and just takes a decent razor blade to remove with no residue... Just gotta remember to put it on the coax line *before* you tighten the fitting... Doh lol. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 7:15 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
I been getting my EZ connectors from Tessco since 1999/2000 -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 1:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Every one I've bought from tessco and Butch has been good. Only water problems were dishes I didn't put up - sealer is your friend. On 11/19/09, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: ez240 ez400 ?? What size cable, What connector on the end (N-Male)? I've got a bunch of ez240 and a few ez400 N Male Marco On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:20 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
Where can you buy the CTB-15? Phil On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: I been getting my EZ connectors from Tessco since 1999/2000 -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 1:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors Every one I've bought from tessco and Butch has been good. Only water problems were dishes I didn't put up - sealer is your friend. On 11/19/09, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: ez240 ez400 ?? What size cable, What connector on the end (N-Male)? I've got a bunch of ez240 and a few ez400 N Male Marco On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:20 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
We used to use the wrap type CANUSA product similar to Coaxseal but the mess it left took time to clean up during outage repairs just to get to the connector body And our contractors couldn't understand that one wrap was sufficient, didn't need to wrap it 3 or 4 times like electrical tape... We use almost exclusively the CFTV shrink... For underground and overhead plant we use a small butane torch (size of a deck of cards)... For overhead when the wind is hitting us (over about 10 mph at 20' AGL), we use a MAPP gas torch which speeds up the process... Our biggest thing is 1) water penetration and 2) time to remove for repair... The adhesive takes care of the water issue and the single score with a razor knife makes removal quick and without a big mess. http://dsgcanusa.com/literature/datasheets/DATA_CFTV.pdf On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Mark Stephenson m...@countryconnections.net wrote: Have you tried CTB-15 from CANUSA? http://www.dsgcanusa.com/literature/datasheets/DATA_CTB-15.pdf The description seems pretty good and it does not require heat. Thanks, Mark On 11/19/09 10:56 PM, AJ aj.grant...@gmail.com wrote: I used to use Coax-seal on everything... Finally discovered CANUSA and won't ever turn back... Great seal and just takes a decent razor blade to remove with no residue... Just gotta remember to put it on the coax line *before* you tighten the fitting... Doh lol. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 7:15 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
ez240 ez400 ?? What size cable, What connector on the end (N-Male)? I've got a bunch of ez240 and a few ez400 N Male Marco On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:20 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
Every one I've bought from tessco and Butch has been good. Only water problems were dishes I didn't put up - sealer is your friend. On 11/19/09, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: ez240 ez400 ?? What size cable, What connector on the end (N-Male)? I've got a bunch of ez240 and a few ez400 N Male Marco On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:20 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
I have some EZ-400 NM on the shelf and a ton of EZ-400-FM-75's Please hit me offlist if you like. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 11:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
I get mine from Hutton. marlon - Original Message - From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:20 AM Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
Tessco is where I get them. I have them make up cables and have not had any problems with them MDK wrote: I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.73/2513 - Release Date: 11/19/09 07:51:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors
I used to use Coax-seal on everything... Finally discovered CANUSA and won't ever turn back... Great seal and just takes a decent razor blade to remove with no residue... Just gotta remember to put it on the coax line *before* you tighten the fitting... Doh lol. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 7:15 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Yes - hate the mess but seals the best! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Coax-seal On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, AJ wrote: CANUSA adhesive shrink tubing is your friend :) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: No 400 connector from any of the manufacturers is weatherproof by itself. You need to weatherproof all of your connections. If they are not getting wet you are lucky. Plain and simple. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:20:52 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave EZ connectors I've run out of these, and none of the vendors I use commonly carry them. Anyone out west have these? Yeah, I know, it costs more to buy two of these than a whole pre-built 10 foot cable, but every danged pre-built I buy has water issues. We have never had to seal any of the cables we built ourselves, and none of them have ever leaked (except when someone who'll forever remain nameless forgot to tighten the cable...), but I have no luck at all with the pre-made I've bought from multiple places. Our temporary site needed to go up in a real hurry, so I bought a whole pile of parts and cables, and most of them have had issues. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
